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Predator has no armor, no weapons, no nothing. He is a senior predator. THis is in Manhattan

I don't think Predator would be able to do anything to Cage...maybe lure him into some place and take him out using something else then physical means...and Cage is about fifty times stronger then the Predator.

Cage 6-7/10...

Doesn't Cage also have bulletproof skin? Predator is screwed here.

Yep, thats why I said it would be impossible for Predator to hurt him with physical force. But since the fight happens in Manhattan, maybe predator could find something to hurt Cage with...or lure him into something. An Elder Predator is very smart.

Lure him into a house of ill repute, kill him with STD's?

a Pred would waste Cage even without it's weapons..... Scorpion beat the hell out of him by basically using his speed advantage to avoid everything Cage threw and continually pounding on him.... all a Pred would need to do is find something reasonably solid to beat him with

Originally posted by Scoobless
a Pred would waste Cage even without it's weapons..... Scorpion beat the hell out of him by basically using his speed advantage to avoid everything Cage threw and continually pounding on him.... all a Pred would need to do is find something reasonably solid to beat him with

Are you kidding me? Gargan was stronger and more durable than spiderman with superhuman reflexes. An Elder pred is nowhere close to being that strong. Remember, this pred is butt naked with no equipment. Cage has naturally superdense skin and muscle tissue and is currently class 25.

it's still a lot faster and more agile than him

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Are you kidding me? Gargan was stronger and more durable than spiderman with superhuman reflexes. An Elder pred is nowhere close to being that strong. Remember, this pred is butt naked with no equipment. Cage has naturally superdense skin and muscle tissue and is currently class 25. Cage wins, but come on now, @least give the pred a pair of pants.

Originally posted by Scoobless
it's still a lot faster and more agile than him

Yeah, but not strong enough to cause damage.

Cage would win.

cage wins pred peak human strength tops what it gunna do to cage

Originally posted by wolverine8888
cage wins pred peak human strength tops what it gunna do to cage

Pred is far beyond peak human strength.

? are u sure about that hell arnold was able to tie one in strength. batman fought one and it was barly stronger then him.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
Pred is far beyond peak human strength.

Maybe 1 tons tops.

Predator has more agility; will thrust-kick Cage through walls, but that won't hurt him anymore than claws or teeth. Cage eventually gets the upper hand, headbutts him unconsciuous, and rips his backside a new one.

AN Elder Pred is not someone to take likely none once beat a Queen Alien by hisself bare handed. Luke would take this in a straight up fight if the Pred was stupid and slow but this Pred isn't he possesses fighting skills that put Wolverine and Batman toi shame these guys are very smart and tough and quick and could use something anything they found to possibly hurt him. His skin is bullet proof well very sharp metals swung with enough force can do some crazt things when matched with decent strength.

Cage beats Pred's ass. Cage lately has had a HUGE upgrade. He's now a Class 25 powerhouse from what he used to be at Class 10. Now his fists can penetrate inches thick of solid steel. His skin durability is also alot tougher now. He used to be only bulletproof, now he can withstand Carnage's blades (made out of his hand)s and still not be penetrated and if u look even after the fight with the Void his skin stil wasnt penetrated and he was one of the guys along with the Thing and Wolverine and a few others who were hit with a direct shot from the Void.

One thing I find amusing is that the only argument made for the pred is that he could find "something" to (presumably throw) and penetrate cage's skin laying around manhattan.

Cage's skin, bone, and muscle tissue are superdense, to the point where bullets can't penetrate it.

Let's look at this logically. A pro baseball player can throw a fastball (small, light, aerodynamic) somewhere around 90mph, or 40 meters per second. pretty fast.

standard handgun bullets travel *300* meters per second. Higher caliber bullets travel *600* meters per second.

to pierce cage's skin, an elder pred would have to be able to pick up and accelerate an object (by swinging, throwing, what have you) Well in excess of that speed.

going back to the baseball analogy, if an elder pred wanted to throw a baseball (small, light, aerodynamic) that fast he would have to be at least 15 times as strong as a professional athlete. (approximately class 3 if we assume a professional athlete can lift 400lbs, roughly double their bodyweight)

If he wanted to throw or swing an object that has a prayer of penetrating cage's hide, he'd have to be at minimum 30-60 times as strong as a professional athlete. (class 5 to class 10) Pred's are stronger than humans, but not THAT strong.

Cage, however, IS this strong and can easily throw anything he can find, be it baseballs, pipes, or automobiles fast enough and hard enough to paste a predator with ease.

Isn't math fun?

It sure is...

Originally posted by Space M ummy
One thing I find amusing is that the only argument made for the pred is that he could find "something" to (presumably throw) and penetrate cage's skin laying around manhattan.

Cage's skin, bone, and muscle tissue are superdense, to the point where bullets can't penetrate it.

Let's look at this logically. A pro baseball player can throw a fastball (small, light, aerodynamic) somewhere around 90mph, or 40 meters per second. pretty fast.

standard handgun bullets travel *300* meters per second. Higher caliber bullets travel *600* meters per second.

to pierce cage's skin, an elder pred would have to be able to pick up and accelerate an object (by swinging, throwing, what have you) Well in excess of that speed.

going back to the baseball analogy, if an elder pred wanted to throw a baseball (small, light, aerodynamic) that fast he would have to be at least 15 times as strong as a professional athlete. (approximately class 3 if we assume a professional athlete can lift 400lbs, roughly double their bodyweight)

If he wanted to throw or swing an object that has a prayer of penetrating cage's hide, he'd have to be at minimum 30-60 times as strong as a professional athlete. (class 5 to class 10) Pred's are stronger than humans, but not THAT strong.

Cage, however, IS this strong and can easily throw anything he can find, be it baseballs, pipes, or automobiles fast enough and hard enough to paste a predator with ease.

Isn't math fun?

not bad you need to figure in that a baseball weighs much more than a bullet say about 25 times as much (estimate)
also strength is not a pure measure of how fast you throw professional power lifters will have no hope of throwing a ball as fast as a baseball player
Factors involved in a fast action include: power to bodyweight ratio (i.e the power in a throwing arm compared to how much it weighs), flexibility, ratio and type of fast twitch fibres, length of arm

anyhoo. With the power and athleticsm pre displays in the movies I can't see him throwing an object past the speed of sound

Cage would take out even an army of Predators if they have no weapons to slow him down.
Since his upgrade before becoming a member of New Avengers he gained Class 25 Tons of strength, plus his skin is now hard as diamond, hurting him require a strenght that a Predator's hasn't got.
I've serious doubts even the spear or the circle blade will cut or pierce Cage.
While he can certainly pummel the crap outta the alien warriors.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Cage would take out even an army of Predators if they have no weapons to slow him down.
Since his upgrade before becoming a member of New Avengers he gained Class 25 Tons of strength, plus his skin is now hard as diamond, hurting him require a strenght that a Predator's hasn't got.
I've serious doubts even the spear or the circle blade will cut or pierce Cage.
While he can certainly pummel the crap outta the alien warriors.
d'ya think Cage can handle the shoulder mounted plasma cannon?

what about the self destruct?

just a question.

I think Cage could knock this fella clean out. as ahas been said hes about 25 times as strong and apparently diamond hard or so he boasted when punching ironclad

Luke wins, hes stronger and more durable