Violence and Sex in games

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TwisterGameX
Violence and Sex in games. Ok this might have been discussed but not like this. to start things off I got the idea from G4( The video game channel) and that the government or something wants to stop this.




Games that have Violence and or sex.

Metal gear solid series

Halo series
Army games
Mortal Kombat series
GTA series
God Of War
Splinter Cell series
Playboy the mansion
Leisure suit larry series
Ninja Gaiden
Resident Evil.
Man hunt
And ect

Discuss if you like these games aswell. Ok so they say kids could get it, and the recent gta san hot coffe retarted code thing set everyone off and the H clitton(I think) was mad and said the rating system messed up and there is sex/nudity in the game as a code that was by passed and wasn't dleted untill some hackers..or w/e found it, so she said if the kids get the game and theres this crap hidden in it ,it is just wrong. I say how stupid can you be because the game is already rated M for mature so kids under 17 can't buy it anyway, and all the violence in that game should of made it clear that it was not for kids in the first place.

I don't know what she is thinking but if a parent buys this game for a kid with a rating of M and knows about the violence then the kids biggest problem is not grand theft auto. Also they raised the M rating to Ao(adults only) so it went from 17 to 18 years of age roll eyes (sarcastic)
alot of difference.

Ok man hunt and God of war and resident evil are so bloody but again has the rating of M so i don't see the problem...

Ok there is alot more but I will speak in time. Discuss. (I also don't even own these games except for Halo,god of war, ninja gaiden and splinter cell)

SaTsuJiN
"H clitton" ?.. rofl

hmm.. games that have violence / sex...... all of them?.. confused

I still dont think violence drives said person to do crazy things... it just becomes an easy scapegoat... i.e.... "the devil made me do it"..

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
"H clitton" ?.. rofl

hmm.. games that have violence / sex...... all of them?.. confused

I still dont think violence drives said person to do crazy things... it just becomes an easy scapegoat... i.e.... "the devil made me do it"..

Well while a person is killing in the game they don't have to kill outside because they releaved the tension. Also they compared it it to

Why they all on the video games and not the movies ?
then comes that why are they not on the sims with the sex since they were on gta (before h san) about the hooker thing.


What makes me mad is that she does not even play games or know games at all so i don't get why she opens her mouth and her and others had the nerves to say games are for kids only.

SaTsuJiN
cuz sims isnt as "thuggy" or crime related as GTA.. it makes her look better to people who know very little information about these games.

to us it looks like "Damn.. that skank is trashin on another game"
but to those who dont play games its more like
"Wow, she's putting a stop to things that cultivate violent behavior, lets vote for her"

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
cuz sims isnt as "thuggy" or crime related as GTA.. it makes her look better to people who know very little information about these games.

to us it looks like "Damn.. that skank is trashin on another game"
but to those who dont play games its more like
"Wow, she's putting a stop to things that cultivate violent behavior, lets vote for her"

laughing So what is your personal opion on the whole thing. Also do you own any of the games i listed.

Movie_Geek_
It is just a political ploy. It is sooo stupid. If a person is going to snap a Game is not going to do it. It my add to it but it is not the main reason. I like most of the games that are rated M or higher. Most of which are the most popular games.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Movie_Geek_
It is just a political ploy. It is sooo stupid. If a person is going to snap a Game is not going to do it. It my add to it but it is not the main reason. I like most of the games that are rated M or higher. Most of which are the most popular games.

Whats the new zelda game rated Happy Dance He looks so evil and grown up. Anyway why don't they whine about the movies. they said they don't whine about the movies because games are for kids!!

Lana
Twilight Princess is rated T, I believe.

And I really think this whole "video games = violence" thing is silly. Violence has existed long before games have. Games with a lot of violence and/or sex are rated M. Meaning you cannot buy them if you're under 17. If a parent buys a kid an M-rated game, well, it's their problem.

TwisterGameX
Yeah, and they shgouldn't be trying to ban games with violence. I mean even g rated games have cartoon violence. They need to speak to the parents about what they let there kids play and bother them and not the games.

Lana
Parents need to pay more attention to the games they're buying for their kids instead of later complaining about the violence.

TwisterGameX
I mean even the cover on the box has like a dead guy/guns/ and some times blood. I think the mind set is that games are for kids.

Lana
Which they all aren't.

It clearly says on the box what the rating is on the front, and on the back it says WHY it is given that rating. If people would pay more attention to that, I don't think there would be so many problems.

Seriously. Don't want your kid killing hookers, don't buy them GTA. Problem solved.

TwisterGameX
laughing yeah, and now my store got this big sign that has the esrb rating outside the store. I am now 19 and they wouldn't let me get an m game while I was 17 or 18 even though I am taller than the guy and look older. He goes we need id...I was like what the heck, I don't drive so it wouldn't show . Now I am 19 and they still asked me for id..the same guy, when he seen me all those years, and the fact that I go there regularly so they know me. Ok so i showed them finally my college Id which still didn't hav ethe age on it but college is a give away, so they pondered and finally gave it to me. I think they should worry about the 12 year olds picking up the game.

Lana
Well, at many place you can be fired for selling M rated games to underage kids, so understandably most people are going to check IDs. I'm nearly 20 and they ask how old I am when I buy games.

TwisterGameX
well before i didn't have a drivers license so I was screwed when they asked me my age. What did you do to get it(if you didn't have drivers L)

Lana
I got my license when I was 18, before then I didn't have any sort of ID with my age on it so my mom had to get the games for me.

TwisterGameX
For some reason only gamestop ask me for id, others like eb games don't even ask.

Tru_Slice
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
"H clitton" ?.. rofl

hmm.. games that have violence / sex...... all of them?.. confused

I still dont think violence drives said person to do crazy things... it just becomes an easy scapegoat... i.e.... "the devil made me do it"..

Hillary Clinton?!

How would SHE know that there's sex in games?

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Tru_Slice
Hillary Clinton?!

How would SHE know that there's sex in games?


She asked bill Happy Dance


Also have you guys played any of the games above ?

Lana
laughing out loud

I've played several; Halo, GTA, MK, Resident Evil, Ninja Gaiden...also can't forget games like Doom.

I love Doom big grin

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Lana
laughing out loud

I've played several; Halo, GTA, MK, Resident Evil, Ninja Gaiden...also can't forget games like Doom.

I love Doom big grin

eek! Thats agood list. I never played Mk or Gta and was wondering if they are good because i want to buy it..are those two good ? Doom the movie is coming out as well Happy Dance and I got Ninja Gaiden black which is a very hard game and those spider ninjas are sick. sad

Lana
The Doom movie's out already, from what I've heard from people who've seen it it's not too good erm

I've played MK for years, I love those games (though Tekken's my favorite fighting series). The GTA series is fun if you want to waste time or are stressed and need to vent anger or something.

Not for the kiddies, though.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Lana
The Doom movie's out already, from what I've heard from people who've seen it it's not too good erm

I've played MK for years, I love those games (though Tekken's my favorite fighting series). The GTA series is fun if you want to waste time or are stressed and need to vent anger or something.

Not for the kiddies, though.

It sucked sad I hate when they ruin a good thing. I was thinking of getting gta for the psp since it got a good rating. I think you should play God of war.

TwisterGameX
http://www.mycapitalweb.com/justin/?p=255
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4671429.stm


some articles on gta thing and the last one is on mortal kombat when it firstcame out.

Edit I took offthe Mortal Kombat one because it didn't work.

TwisterGameX
March 29, 2005 - Hilary Rodham Clinton, D, NY, has taken sides. Apparently, the wrong one. In an article with the Sunday Times, the first-time senator and two-term first lady, said she wants to launch a $90 million investigation into the effects of videogames on children.



Her efforts mirror long-time Senator Joseph Lieberman D, Ct, though this time she has sided with right wing Republicans Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum.

She cites Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto as as a "major threat" to morality in America.

"Children are playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them," Clinton said in a statement. "This is a silent epidemic of media desensitisation that teaches kids it's OK to diss people because they are a woman, they're a different colour or they're from a different place."

Apparenly Clinton is new to the subect of violence in videogames, which first erupted over the finshing moves in Mortal Kombat. Having sex with a prostitute and then running said woman over in GTA is not a goal or mission in the game, leaving that option open to the morality and choice of the gamer. Furthermore, GTA3, which kick-started this new wave of complaints against violence in videogames, came out in 2001, almost four years ago. Clinton's statement appears to be the first part of her bid for the democratic presidential election in 2008.

Clinton's proposed $90 million investigation will study the impact of games and other electronic media on the "cognitive, social, emotional and physical development" of children, reports the Sunday Times.

We'll have more on Clinton's pre-presidential campaign ideas in the near future.

Movie_Geek_
"$90 million investigation " what a WASTE of Money! I can not believe she is going to spend near a billion dollars on something like this! If she want to see the affect it has on people ask the "kids" that play them. It is just stupid that she is generalizing games like that, she is being a hypocrite if you ask me.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Movie_Geek_
"$90 million investigation " what a WASTE of Money! I can not believe she is going to spend near a billion dollars on something like this! If she want to see the affect it has on people ask the "kids" that play them. It is just stupid that she is generalizing games like that, she is being a hypocrite if you ask me.

But shes running for election so she might as well. She does not like sex in games because kids play it. Dumb ***** ignores the rated M

Movie_Geek_
Well she is trying to get elected but what a pointless thing to run in a campane.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Movie_Geek_
Well she is trying to get elected but what a pointless thing to run in a campane.

So I don't get why she think kids could get this when it is already trated M(17 and up)

Lana
Originally posted by Movie_Geek_
" million investigation " what a WASTE of Money! I can not believe she is going to spend near a billion dollars on something like this! If she want to see the affect it has on people ask the "kids" that play them. It is just stupid that she is generalizing games like that, she is being a hypocrite if you ask me.

Actually, that's about a tenth of a billion.

Still, that's a lot of money wasted.

TwisterGameX
eek I just read in one of my game books that playboy took over the videogames. They are taking the video game woman in games and putting them in playboy naked in issues. eek



Ok what the hell is the point of this, and it makes me wonder what the girls in the game are accually made for. This shocks me to some extent..what do YOU all think about this..... ?

TwisterGameX
Omg I just read that they said they are doing thi sbecause they are targetting men the age 29ish do to a study that the most men that play games and by playboy is like 25-35. They straight up said that since putting naked video game characters in playboy will attract all the gamers......


so what are they trying to say.......that gamers are horney men.....I am insulted.

Movie_Geek_
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Omg I just read that they said they are doing thi sbecause they are targetting men the age 29ish do to a study that the most men that play games and by playboy is like 25-35. They straight up said that since putting naked video game characters in playboy will attract all the gamers......


so what are they trying to say.......that gamers are horney men.....I am insulted.

I think it is funny actually. I saw a playboy video game for x-box a while back. I did not even pick it up but I wounder what the point in that game would be.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Movie_Geek_
I think it is funny actually. I saw a playboy video game for x-box a while back. I did not even pick it up but I wounder what the point in that game would be.



I hear it's sims with sex....thats all. But I mean playboy takes famous video game charaters and strip them naked to put in accual playbot magazines.

K1ll3r
how many starving children could she feed with $90 million dollars damn, people need to get their priorities straight.

Celestial
Why are people flipping out about violence and sex in games when it is just as bad in TV and movies?

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Celestial
Why are people flipping out about violence and sex in games when it is just as bad in TV and movies?

Because she think that games are for little kids big grin and idn't even care it was rated M which is 17 anway and kids can not get this.

Movie_Geek_
Because it sounds good on a campaign poster.

Lana
And it'll be a good way to get votes from parents, and people who're concerned about morals and stuff like that.

TwisterGameX
Yeah thats all and good but why are the parents so dumb into thinking it's not there fault since they have to buy it for the kids because it's 17 and older anway, just like movies rated r are 18 and up.

Movie_Geek_
Because parents do not want to take responsibility for that fact that their kid is messed up. I think the "deferents" is that you "control" your character and it incites bad morals.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Movie_Geek_
Because parents do not want to take responsibility for that fact that their kid is messed up. I think the "deferents" is that you "control" your character and it incites bad morals.

Now when I by games they go ahead and read what it has in the game to me. they go it's rated m with blood and gore and language. Then they bother me for an hour about there card and do I want to reserve anything and list like 10 things after I said no for the billionth time, and they saw me last week and I said no.

Movie_Geek_
I get that every so often. Mostly when I rent games.

TwisterGameX
They always bother me about we have this game used, do you want it..I say no then they said you save 2 dollars...I say no and they say come on it will work.....OMG they are annoying.

Odie
not enuff blood stick out tongue

Movie_Geek_
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
They always bother me about we have this game used, do you want it..I say no then they said you save 2 dollars...I say no and they say come on it will work.....OMG they are annoying.

I buy a lot of games used but they always ask if I want the coverage if it gets broken. I always say no but they still ask. I wounder who buys it?

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Movie_Geek_
I buy a lot of games used but they always ask if I want the coverage if it gets broken. I always say no but they still ask. I wounder who buys it?

laughing I guess sthey get payed to bother you to buy more stuff. I bet if you buy something and they ask all that for 10 minutes then you leave the store and coem back 2 minutes later and buy another, they will ask you again.

brainchild81
They pick on the videogame industry to distract people from the real problems. Bad parenting, plain stupidity, and weak gun laws.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by brainchild81
They pick on the videogame industry to distract people from the real problems. Bad parenting, plain stupidity, and weak gun laws.

But if she wants to get elected she can't say it's you the retarted parents fault..I just wish she would find soemthing else to nag on.

Movie_Geek_
video games are a easy target though. Why try and talk about a issue that needs you to think about it.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Movie_Geek_
video games are a easy target though. Why try and talk about a issue that needs you to think about it.

laughing out loud Well said.

TwisterGameX
More news are as followed



- Psp being considered not to be sold to kids because of the content that can be reached in it.
- Nintendo having no racil diversity in there characters
- http://nintendogsracist.ytmnd.com/
- Jack Thompson is on a rampage stioll with gta and now is looking at the handheld gta
- Hilary cliton spend more money to stop violence and sex in games
- Ipods minis are defective so psp rules

TwisterGameX
More Updates
-Ds sending out a wifi thing when mario kart comes out so now you could go online when you want..of course it costs money but still.
-Psp sending out a kit to make things easier to tranfer cpu things to the psp...ausb cable and more, and again this costs money.

TwisterGameX
And Even more

-nintendo has 2 controls planed for the revolution, so one is a regular one and the other is a freaky one.

Draco69
Violence in video games is a given.

Sex in videogames in superfluous and completely unnecessary.

TwisterGameX
I hope they make a SSB for Ds

Deathblow
Originally posted by Draco69
Violence in video games is a given.

Sex in videogames in superfluous and completely unnecessary.

I agree. If people want to see sex, rent a porno. It's not even pixelised.

The only game I've ever played that I feel went needlessly OTT on the violence is Manhunt. It really never usually bothers me, I grew up playing Mortal Kombat and pretty much the only videogame I played at all this year was San Andreas, but I really didn't get any pleasure out of the violence in Manhunt, I just found it twisted and sadistic. I honestly think that parents blaming violent behaviour on kids playing videogames is stupid, but long periods of exposure to that game can't be healthy.

BackFire
I still don't understand the logic that allows horrific violence to be a-okay in video games, but sex and nudity = Congresional hearing. Logically, it should be the other way around. Sex is natural, often beautiful. Violence is bad, and ugly.

Can someone explain to me why killing hookers is okay but using hookers for sexual deeds is a gamebreaking offense to so many people?

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by BackFire
I still don't understand the logic that allows horrific violence to be a-okay in video games, but sex and nudity = Congresional hearing. Logically, it should be the other way around. Sex is natural, often beautiful. Violence is bad, and ugly.

Can someone explain to me why killing hookers is okay but using hookers for sexual deeds is a gamebreaking offense to so many people?

Well uh eh.. laughing out loud

I guess they are both bad depending on how it is done. Violence like God of war and RE4 is grhaphic but not super smash brothers.

Sex in games are probably to graphic and not for love in a married couple..

Best game ever without any of this is Harvest moond 64 Happy Dance

Deathblow
Originally posted by BackFire
I still don't understand the logic that allows horrific violence to be a-okay in video games, but sex and nudity = Congresional hearing. Logically, it should be the other way around. Sex is natural, often beautiful. Violence is bad, and ugly.

Can someone explain to me why killing hookers is okay but using hookers for sexual deeds is a gamebreaking offense to so many people?

That's true, but then there are very few videogames which market sex as a beautiful and natural thing. If and when games use sex as a selling point, it's obviously going to be geared towards the consumer majority; which is young males, hence the generally sexist content. It probably has something to do with wanting to shield kids from getting it into their heads that it's ok to exploit women, treat them like objects and whatnot. They've obviously never watched MTV for more than 2 seconds.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by Deathblow
That's true, but then there are very few videogames which market sex as a beautiful and natural thing. If and when games use sex as a selling point, it's obviously going to be geared towards the consumer majority; which is young males, hence the generally sexist content. It probably has something to do with wanting to shield kids from getting it into their heads that it's ok to exploit women, treat them like objects and whatnot. They've obviously never watched MTV for more than 2 seconds.

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000050398.JPG?0.8890469226120749

http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=2854


http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=3079

Sex sells

TwisterGameX
Get nintendogs to get laid...wtf ? so what if girls want the game.

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
More news are as followed



- Psp being considered not to be sold to kids because of the content that can be reached in it.
- Nintendo having no racial diversity in there characters
- http://nintendogsracist.ytmnd.com/
- Jack Thompson is on a rampage still with gta and now is looking at the handheld gta
- Hilary cliton spend more money to stop violence and sex in games
- Ipods minis are defective so psp rules
- Psp battery life sucks
- Psp square button a little defctive


Edit:



Updated

TwisterGameX
More news is harvest moon comes to the ds and another harvest moon is being made for the gc.

SaTsuJiN
lol nasty mouse humpin.. I woulda bopped him on the head

TwisterGameX
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
lol nasty mouse humpin.. I woulda bopped him on the head


laughing out loud Did they really show that on tv.

Rogue Jedi
FJ was playing God Of War a while back and they showed two women with big ass nipples. dancingman

Movie_Geek_
Proof that there are worce things on TV then in games.

ESB- 1138
Parents are just placing the blame on someone else. Their kids are bad and misbehave a lot so its the school's fault. Parents need to suck it up and take the responsibility for themselves to raise their kids.

pacman5415
Ok..this was an old fact but...i realy dont think mortal combat is so bad for kids...i mean it toughens them up a bit..trust me
buuuuuuuut..to the topic of what i was saying..people were allways saying that maortal combat is a "bad influence on children"but cmon...really think about it..are kids really going to go around ripping people in half or ripping out their spines I MEAN CMOOOON
but i mean sex and violence in games arent a problem..if u get rid of violence sex drugs ex.your left with mario games..(very fun) or other games but your also left with bad games that arent fun......

so all im saying is super mama cookoff or whatever isnt a game for kids its a game for CRACK ADDICTS buti gatta say...kids..obey the game ratings.cmon kids if it says not for children under 13,14,17,18,or adults,DONT GET IT UNLESS UR MATURE ENOUGH like my friend..hese kinda young but hese like all calm and grown up and always beats me at tekken "_" raaaghhhhhhhh but whatever just remember what i said..games are the foundation for kids these days so dont attack them people

General Kaliero
What in the name of Green Hill Zone?

Not only did you zombie a festering over-two-years-old thread, I think there are two opposite opinions in there. ermm

MadMel
laughing

Burning thought
lol i like that term, "zombie"


but yeh heres my two cents

all BS, for all the violence, sex, drugs they have in games, people should realy realise that its a game, its not real, and its rated unlike many TV programs that just come on, sometimes not even warning people of whats in it, i mean i remember watching some cartoons at a young age and then Predator 2 comes on and ime like, coooool

but yeh its not thinking of TV

my advice, sort out real violence in the world not games

ESB -1138
Originally posted by pacman5415
Ok..this was an old fact but...i realy dont think mortal combat is so bad for kids...i mean it toughens them up a bit..trust me
buuuuuuuut..to the topic of what i was saying..people were allways saying that maortal combat is a "bad influence on children"but cmon...really think about it..are kids really going to go around ripping people in half or ripping out their spines I MEAN CMOOOON
but i mean sex and violence in games arent a problem..if u get rid of violence sex drugs ex.your left with mario games..(very fun) or other games but your also left with bad games that arent fun......

so all im saying is super mama cookoff or whatever isnt a game for kids its a game for CRACK ADDICTS buti gatta say...kids..obey the game ratings.cmon kids if it says not for children under 13,14,17,18,or adults,DONT GET IT UNLESS UR MATURE ENOUGH like my friend..hese kinda young but hese like all calm and grown up and always beats me at tekken "_" raaaghhhhhhhh but whatever just remember what i said..games are the foundation for kids these days so dont attack them people

What? You revived a thread that has been dead for two years...and you don't even make sense.

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by ESB -1138
What? You revived a thread that has been dead for two years...and you don't even make sense. I understand exactly what he's saying, and concur.

General Kaliero
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I understand exactly what he's saying, and concur.

Then could you translate for those of us who don't have a degree in Gobbledygook?

Smasandian
I find what he/she said about how a game toughens people up.

That was pretty funny.

ragesRemorse
Movies are rated much the same way video games are. There are movies directed for children and movies directed solely towards adults. They allow extreme violence and sex in movies, Censoring Mature rated games in fear that a child will acquire the game says that the rating system doesnt work and that no one puts much confidence in it.

As more and more gamers grow into adults and go on to dominate video game sales. Im sure, then, we will see less censorship in mature rated video games. Its all about money. Although, Adults today, are responsible for a large portion of sales. The younger demographic still out buy adult purchases. This, is why, i believe hardened developers do cave and agree to cater to the extremist groups protesting lude and graphic violence.

I dont believe violence in entertainment has any bearing on inspiring violent personalities in youth. I believe it falls more onto tangible environment such as parental guidance and society

Furion
In the eyes of Hillary Clinton: Kid after playing MK
Kid:Hey mom, Ima gonna kill you *runs over to mother*
Mother:What no Billy get your hands off me!
Kid: *rips mother's spinal cord out then eats her soul.* I'm the coolest kid on the block.
I swear that's what she sees.

ragesRemorse
Originally posted by Furion
In the eyes of Hillary Clinton: Kid after playing MK
Kid:Hey mom, Ima gonna kill you *runs over to mother*
Mother:What no Billy get your hands off me!
Kid: *rips mother's spinal cord out then eats her soul.* I'm the coolest kid on the block.
I swear that's what she sees.


lol

I think thats how most liberal extremists see it

Furion
dance

coolmovies
I love violence remember doom ?? classic !

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Then could you translate for those of us who don't have a degree in Gobbledygook? Sorry to alienate you guys, but this is a matter that only myself and pacman52137809 can truly comprehend.

Burning thought
Originally posted by Furion
In the eyes of Hillary Clinton: Kid after playing MK
Kid:Hey mom, Ima gonna kill you *runs over to mother*
Mother:What no Billy get your hands off me!
Kid: *rips mother's spinal cord out then eats her soul.* I'm the coolest kid on the block.
I swear that's what she sees.

w8 a min i dont get it? was this supposed to be a depiction of violence?

hm every day at my home

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Furion
In the eyes of Hillary Clinton: Kid after playing MK
Kid:Hey mom, Ima gonna kill you *runs over to mother*
Mother:What no Billy get your hands off me!
Kid: *rips mother's spinal cord out then eats her soul.* I'm the coolest kid on the block.
I swear that's what she sees.

In the eyes of Hillary Clinton:
I stand there seeing my child play Grand Theft Auto...powerless to do anything to prevent it from happening...and so the programmers are too blame.

It's not a parent problem noooooooooooo. It's a video game problem.

Furion
Originally posted by Burning thought
w8 a min i dont get it? was this supposed to be a depiction of violence?

hm every day at my home
It's what the senators and mothers think will happen.

Lana
Originally posted by ESB -1138
In the eyes of Hillary Clinton:
I stand there seeing my child play Grand Theft Auto...powerless to do anything to prevent it from happening...and so the programmers are too blame.

It's not a parent problem noooooooooooo. It's a video game problem.

I love that.

If you don't want your kid playing a game you don't think is appropriate for them...actually parent them and take the damn thing away.

Burning thought
do they actually have any proof it effects kids?

i think the biggest thing that affects kids is the behavior of parents overall, bad parents often make a bad kid

General Kaliero
No, there has never been any definitive study that shows violent games have an effect on normal kids.

Now, it is possible that a game could influence an already troubled kid, but so can TV, movies, and bad parents.

Lana
Originally posted by Burning thought
do they actually have any proof it effects kids?

i think the biggest thing that affects kids is the behavior of parents overall, bad parents often make a bad kid

There has not been done a single credible study that shows that it effects kids.

There have been studies done, but they've all had other factors that skewed the outcome - like giving kids that already have aggressive tendencies and that have lashed out at others in the past a GTA game. But since there were other factors having an effect then it is not reliable.

Correlation doesn't equal causation and all that.

Furion
The reason videogame girls are in Playboy: They found Dead or Alive fanboys in a mouldy basement surrounded by pictures of Tifa and Lara Croft.

General Kaliero
Originally posted by Furion
The reason videogame girls are in Playboy: They found Dead or Alive fanboys in a mouldy basement surrounded by pictures of Tifa and Lara Croft.

...If they were DoA fanboys, where'd the Tifa and Lara pics come from? ermm

Sol Valentine
This makes no sence, studies and media blame games for many incidents that happens to kids, when they overlook other problems. The things that they say about GTA and DOA are juat bullshit they pull out of thier asses.

Furion
Originally posted by General Kaliero
...If they were DoA fanboys, where'd the Tifa and Lara pics come from? ermm
Dreams that Tifa and Lara will be featured in DoA

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Lana
If you don't want your kid playing a game you don't think is appropriate for them...actually parent them and take the damn thing away.

Lana...you see there is a huge problem in your logic. It makes too much sense.

Lana
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Lana...you see there is a huge problem in your logic. It makes too much sense.

Damn that common sense!

BackFire
Parenting is too difficult, it's easier for the government to simply disallow what I feel is inappropriate for my children, that way I can watch my reality shows and Fox News while not worrying about my children experiencing something new.

Smasandian
I just thought having kids was just a different form of an retirement fund.

Instead of saving money through RSP's, you just have a couple of kids, give them an eduction, hopefully they turn out to be docters and then just leech off of them after 55. It is not very relieble but it could work.

Furion
pffff, all doctors really do is give you surgery and drugs. NOW RODEO CLOWNS! THAT'S A JOB WORTH $1000 A MINUTE!

Video games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Education.
Haven't you ever heard that song "Another brick in the Wall".

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