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meep-meep
Would Wolverine die if he were stabbed through the ribs into his heart with a spear or some other sharp object? Once a person suffers a puncture to the heart its only a matter of minutes before they are dead. What if the spear or whatever is wriggled around so his heart is scrambled like the eggs I wish I ate this morning. Would this successfully kill him if simply stabbing him in the heart doesn't?

Creshosk
Originally posted by meep-meep
Would Wolverine die if he were stabbed through the ribs into his heart with a spear or some other sharp object? Once a person suffers a puncture to the heart its only a matter of minutes before they are dead. What if the spear or whatever is wriggled around so his heart is scrambled like the eggs I wish I ate this morning. Would this successfully kill him if simply stabbing him in the heart doesn't? didn't work for X-23

http://www.x-23.org/gallery/comics/uncanny_xmen_450/uncanny450_x23_11.jpg

He was fine after their encounter oon the roof later too.

X-Logan
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meep-meep
I don't think it would be a bad idea if Marvel killed Wolvie. I am kind of hoping for it so that some sort of limits on his regenration can be shown. It's a bit extreme to be only kill Wolverine by nothing short of complete disintigration or evaporation. I'm not stating that these are the only ways to kill him but from many of the discussions I have witnessed this seems to be the only option of death for him. Hell, if a punch from the hulk can't than can an atom bomb? I suspect their are some who believe he could survive this although that is only speculation. Just my opinion. The ironic thing is is that he used to be my favorite character. I used to draw pictures of him, as a matter of fact I still have them somewhere.

Sparkz
Originally posted by meep-meep
Would Wolverine die if he were stabbed through the ribs into his heart with a spear or some other sharp object? Once a person suffers a puncture to the heart its only a matter of minutes before they are dead. What if the spear or whatever is wriggled around so his heart is scrambled like the eggs I wish I ate this morning. Would this successfully kill him if simply stabbing him in the heart doesn't?

Well I suppose if you kept twisting the spear or something and not giving his body a chance to heal he would die of bloodloss, and after he's dead i don't think wolverine can heal from it, either that or just keep twisting it and wait for his healing factor to overload, and before anyone says he wouldnt let them twist it, would you be able to do anything with a spear in your heart and it still being torn to peices by a spear, I realy doubt it.

Creshosk
Originally posted by Sparkz
Well I suppose if you kept twisting the spear or something and not giving his body a chance to heal he would die of bloodloss, and after he's dead i don't think wolverine can heal from it, either that or just keep twisting it and wait for his healing factor to overload, and before anyone says he wouldnt let them twist it, would you be able to do anything with a spear in your heart and it still being torn to peices by a spear, I realy doubt it. Technically the better explination is this is a hypothetical discussion, so naturally he can't resist, however your explination leave much to be desired because Wolverine is quite capable of dealing with pain, and unless the spear was adamantium, being held by an adamantium robot or something, Wolverine could fight back. But for the sake of this discussion he can't.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Sparkz
Well I suppose if you kept twisting the spear or something and not giving his body a chance to heal he would die of bloodloss, and after he's dead i don't think wolverine can heal from it, either that or just keep twisting it and wait for his healing factor to overload, and before anyone says he wouldnt let them twist it, would you be able to do anything with a spear in your heart and it still being torn to peices by a spear, I realy doubt it.

That is a good point. I doubt ANYONE could just ignore the pain caused by a sharp object piercing their heart. It would be even harder if the piercer was manuevering their wrist like pornstar. Ahem..ok anyway. I hear that people who suffer heart attacks bascially freeze up and fall down immediately grabbing their chest. Now imagine something cutting your heart up! I hardley think anyone could just grit their teeth and fight on with the same or even close to a quarter of their original capabilities no matter how "tough" they are.

steverules
They wouldn't kill wolverine off because he's popular.

Creshosk
Originally posted by meep-meep
That is a good point. I doubt ANYONE could just ignore the pain caused by a sharp object piercing their heart. It would be even harder if the piercer was manuevering their wrist like pornstar. Ahem..ok anyway. I hear that people who suffer heart attacks bascially freeze up and fall down immediately grabbing their chest. Now imagine something cutting your heart up! I hardley think anyone could just grit their teeth and fight on with the same or even close to a quarter of their original capabilities no matter how "tough" they are.

Lord-of-Dreams
pshh!! they killed off supes, didn't they??

nah,cresh is right

Nataku8188
Funny how they never adhere to their statements

meep-meep
Originally posted by Creshosk


Yes I have seen this before. I'm just making these statements on my own opinions.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Funny how they never adhere to their statements

Hmm interesting. Is that information from a Marvel source?

Nataku8188
the official marvel handbook

meep-meep
Originally posted by steverules
They wouldn't kill wolverine off because he's popular.

I think Marvel has a lot more than just Wolverine. Yes he is a cool character but his limitations, especially in durability need to be checked.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Nataku8188
the official marvel handbook

lol.

steverules
The image creshosk posted was from a comic by a punisher fan and that person was fired from marvel.LOL

jrodslam
Originally posted by Creshosk
didn't work for X-23

http://www.x-23.org/gallery/comics/uncanny_xmen_450/uncanny450_x23_11.jpg

He was fine after their encounter oon the roof later too.

The OP said stab in the heart. Was that in the heart though? Doesnt seem like it. But close. And did X-23 just stab and pull out. Or did she keep it in for a bit and twisted it around?

jrodslam
Originally posted by steverules
The image creshosk posted was from a comic by a punisher fan and that person was fired from marvel.LOL

That has to be a joke. You cant be serious. laughing

meep-meep
Originally posted by steverules
The image creshosk posted was from a comic by a punisher fan and that person was fired from marvel.LOL

Noway! You serious? If you are than double lol.

steverules
It's true......the guy was bias to punisher and basically punisher beat the hell out of wolverine and then marvel decided to fire the guy cause of it.

jrodslam
Originally posted by steverules
It's true......the guy was bias to punisher and basically punisher beat the hell out of wolverine and then marvel decided to fire the guy cause of it.

Then it is true that Wolverine has power beyond comprehension. laughing

steverules
And beyond punisher, the pic's shown where wolvie attacked punisher would kill him RIP punisher.

cheldon
Originally posted by meep-meep
Would Wolverine die if he were stabbed through the ribs into his heart with a spear or some other sharp object? Once a person suffers a puncture to the heart its only a matter of minutes before they are dead. What if the spear or whatever is wriggled around so his heart is scrambled like the eggs I wish I ate this morning. Would this successfully kill him if simply stabbing him in the heart doesn't?

hell no. here's why:
*had adamantium ripped out of his skeleton and healed back in a couple days
*was forced to stay awake during all of the operations and experiments at the weapon x project
*had a vat of lava mixed with radiation poured onto him and he was said to heal his skin almost instantly, said his skin flickered in and out of existence and would have been killed 10 times over if he were a normal human.
*given tranquilizers that could stun an elephant and he was still barely awake.
*shot thousands of times while trying to escape to weapon x and barely slowed down.
*shot to the head by six adamantium bullets and healed in the next page.
* can take punches from the hulk.
*can drink any poison on earth and not be killed and can drink 2 full bottles of whisky and not even get a hangover.
* can run for days non-stop.
*and fought omega red for 24 hours before he was finally defeated.

steverules
Well he did die once when lady D stabbed him there but then he came back to life.

meep-meep
Originally posted by cheldon
hell no. here's why:
*had adamantium ripped out of his skeleton and healed back in a couple days
*was forced to stay awake during all of the operations and experiments at the weapon x project
*had a vat of lava mixed with radiation poured onto him and he was said to heal his skin almost instantly, said his skin flickered in and out of existence and would have been killed 10 times over if he were a normal human.
*given tranquilizers that could stun an elephant and he was still barely awake.
*shot thousands of times while trying to escape to weapon x and barely slowed down.
*shot to the head by six adamantium bullets and healed in the next page.
* can take punches from the hulk.
*can drink any poison on earth and not be killed and can drink 2 full bottles of whisky and not even get a hangover.
* can run for days non-stop.
*and fought omega red for 24 hours before he was finally defeated.

What does that have to do with him getting his heart scrambled like milkshake?

cheldon
Originally posted by meep-meep
What does that have to do with him getting his heart scrambled like milkshake?

it means he ahs taken more than that and he will survive.

steverules
I don't think anyone will be able to kill wolvie by turning his heart into scrambled egg's he would just heal from it.....wouldn't he?

jrodslam
And the fight with Red was a bit over 17 hours till gettig defeated.

Plus when a kitana went through his lungs, he was down for a while and complained about how much it hurt to. There goes that inconsistancy again.

jrodslam
Originally posted by steverules
I don't think anyone will be able to kill wolvie by turning his heart into scrambled egg's he would just heal from it.....wouldn't he?

"Wolverine is not immortal, however. If the injuries are extensive enough, especially if they result in the loss of vital organs, large amounts of blood, and/or loss of physical form (such as having flesh burned away by fire or acid), Logan can die."

Is that true?

steverules
In a issue where the x-men die wolverine get's blasted by a sentinel and is left and all that was left was just a adamantium skeleton and that killed him.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by cheldon
hell no. here's why:
*had adamantium ripped out of his skeleton and healed back in a couple days
*was forced to stay awake during all of the operations and experiments at the weapon x project
*had a vat of lava mixed with radiation poured onto him and he was said to heal his skin almost instantly, said his skin flickered in and out of existence and would have been killed 10 times over if he were a normal human.
*given tranquilizers that could stun an elephant and he was still barely awake.
*shot thousands of times while trying to escape to weapon x and barely slowed down.
*shot to the head by six adamantium bullets and healed in the next page.
* can take punches from the hulk.
*can drink any poison on earth and not be killed and can drink 2 full bottles of whisky and not even get a hangover.
* can run for days non-stop.
*and fought omega red for 24 hours before he was finally defeated.

If you keep posting the same thing, I'm going to keep retorting with the same thing.

Ah, the ripped-out-adamantium-from-his-skeleton thing...didn't Jean have to keep him alive throughout that whole thing? If I remember correctly, if it wasn't for her, Wolverine would be dead.

And the being shot in the head with Adamantium bullets...if you're referring to the Ultimate X-men volume #7: Block Buster, then I'm going to have to say that doesn't count since it's Ultimate. And, if I'm not allowed to use Ultimate examples, then well, I can't let anyone else do it either.

meep-meep
Originally posted by steverules
I don't think anyone will be able to kill wolvie by turning his heart into scrambled egg's he would just heal from it.....wouldn't he?

So you're saying his disfigured scrambled heart would regenerate into its original and correct morphology? I'm inclined to believe anything who suffers something like this will be dead.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by steverules
In a issue where the x-men die wolverine get's blasted by a sentinel and is left and all that was left was just a adamantium skeleton and that killed him.

Yep.

jrodslam
Originally posted by jrodslam
"Wolverine is not immortal, however. If the injuries are extensive enough, especially if they result in the loss of vital organs, large amounts of blood, and/or loss of physical form (such as having flesh burned away by fire or acid), Logan can die."

Is that true?

roll eyes (sarcastic)

meep-meep
Originally posted by jrodslam
"Wolverine is not immortal, however. If the injuries are extensive enough, especially if they result in the loss of vital organs, large amounts of blood, and/or loss of physical form (such as having flesh burned away by fire or acid), Logan can die."

Is that true?

It's from an official Marvel Handbook, or so I've been told.

meep-meep
Should it take something as extreme as complete incineration of his flesh for him to die? It seems brain damage or extreme and quick damage to a major organ like his heart might do the trick as well.

steverules
Originally posted by meep-meep
So you're saying his disfigured scrambled heart would regenerate into its original and correct morphology? I'm inclined to believe anything who suffers something like this will be dead.

I wasn't sure if he would heal from it, that's why I put "wouldn't he?" ate the end of my post.

meep-meep
oh. Gotcha.

Sparkz
Originally posted by Creshosk
Technically the better explination is this is a hypothetical discussion, so naturally he can't resist, however your explination leave much to be desired because Wolverine is quite capable of dealing with pain, and unless the spear was adamantium, being held by an adamantium robot or something, Wolverine could fight back. But for the sake of this discussion he can't.

Its true wolverine can fight past pain, but do you think he can fight past that much pain, but anyway if you kept attacking the heart he wouldnt be able to heal because he wouldnt have a chance to heal, all you would have to do then was wait for the blood loss to kill him. its not like its a stab in the heart or even someone ripping out its heart, its ripping out his heart and constantly attacking the area so it can't heal, do you realy think he can survive from that.

cheldon
Originally posted by jrodslam
And the fight with Red was a bit over 17 hours till gettig defeated.

Plus when a kitana went through his lungs, he was down for a while and complained about how much it hurt to. There goes that inconsistancy again.

ya it's true. writers are inconsistent with characters abilities. it's not my fault. i just told some of the things they have done.

and i was just estimating to 24. i'm sorry. i shoulda said 17

Creshosk
Originally posted by jrodslam
The OP said stab in the heart. Was that in the heart though? Doesnt seem like it. But close. And did X-23 just stab and pull out. Or did she keep it in for a bit and twisted it around? heart shot.

Doesn't matter Hulks punches and even spiderman's punches turn his innards into wonder jello, the spear would have to be kept in to acheive the deisred effect.

jrodslam
Originally posted by Creshosk
heart shot.

Doesn't matter Hulks punches and even spiderman's punches turn his innards into wonder jello, the spear would have to be kept in to acheive the deisred effect.

Difference is that Spiderman and Hulks punches SHOULD turn his innards to jello. He was struggling from a punctured lung. A stab to the heart with some twisting would/should definately put him down for good.

Creshosk
Originally posted by jrodslam
Difference is that Spiderman and Hulks punches SHOULD turn his innards to jello. He was struggling from a punctured lung. A stab to the heart with some twisting would/should definately put him down for good. No, there punches DO turn his innards into wonder jello.

His innards have no greater durability than a regular persons, they take the damage as normal, but they reform by the time the person lands then next shot.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, there punches DO turn his innards into wonder jello.

His innards have no greater durability than a regular persons, they take the damage as normal, but they reform by the time the person lands then next shot.

Do you have proof they turn his organs into "wonder-jello"? Or are you just using logic to come to this conlcusion?

jrodslam
Originally posted by meep-meep
Do you have proof they turn his organs into "wonder-jello"? Or are you just using logic to come to this conlcusion?

I was thinking the same thing. Cause if thats the case, then logically, their punches should go through him everytime they punch him in the stomach.

Sparkz
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, there punches DO turn his innards into wonder jello.

His innards have no greater durability than a regular persons, they take the damage as normal, but they reform by the time the person lands then next shot.

Actully Spider-man never turns his organs into wonder-jello, he always aims for the adamantium skull :s maybe if he went for the gut once in awhile...

meep-meep
Originally posted by jrodslam
I was thinking the same thing. Cause if thats the case, then logically, their punches should go through him everytime they punch him in the stomach.

And logically if he's punched in the head by someone like Wendigo his brain would turn to mashed potatos, much like the ones I have just got done eating. Can his healing factor heal that?

armandovalles
the easiest way to kill Wolverine is to drown him.

meep-meep
Yes drowning him would work. Although the person doing the drowning would need to be sufficiently strong, fast, agile and intelligent to do it. Someone like Thor comes mind definitely. Namor definitely. They simply need to grab his wrist and hold him under. This is turning into a sort of sadistic topic. Hmm..well, anyway he would drown for sure.

spiderman44
i think the only way wolverine can die is internal bleeding and drowning or not breathing somehow

jinzin
no it's been stated that logans organs turn to jelly when hulk smashes him, yet wolverine continues to get up and strike back because his muscles reform so fast.. in another instance it was stated that they were reforming before the next punch.

Creshosk
Now where could I possibly have gotten the idea and even the phrase that spiderman punching him turns his innards(the brain is an organ guys. . .:rolleyesmile into Wonder-Jello?

meep-meep
Ok but could he survive someone cutting up his heart? Would he even be able to move while it was happening much less fight back? So his organs and regeneration capabalities have an elasticity about them so that if something on him werecompletely disfugured and rearranged they would grow back to normal instantly? If something very physically traumatic happens it can kill him, right? It's known that when his skeleton was ripped from his body he needed outside helpo t o keep him alive. While getting your heart scrambled isn't as gruesome as getting your skeleton ripped out it is arguably no less lethal and VERY traumatic.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Creshosk
Now where could I possibly have gotten the idea and even the phrase that spiderman punching him turns his innards(the brain is an organ guys. . .:rolleyesmile into Wonder-Jello?

Yes the brain is an organ. I believe everyone learns that in grade school. HOwever, it's an extremely complex organ. One that we don't completely understand. Since it's so complex it could be argued that it is more difficult to regenrate than say a liver or a broken toe.

Creshosk
Originally posted by meep-meep
Ok but could he survive someone cutting up his heart? Simply cutting up his heart, but leaving it in there without the thing that cut it?

Why wouldn't he? Hulk and Spiderman turn his innards into Wonder jello. but his organs reform and he's just fine afterwards.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Would he even be able to move while it was happening much less fight back? What would prevent that? Pain?

Originally posted by meep-meep
So his organs and regeneration capabalities have an elasticity about them so that if something on him werecompletely disfugured and rearranged they would grow back to normal instantly? Hulk and spiderman.

Originally posted by meep-meep
If something very physically traumatic happens it can kill him, right? It's known that when his skeleton was ripped from his body he needed outside helpo t o keep him alive. Having the adamantium ripped out after a fight with magneto so he was already messed up you mean?

Tax his system out and you can kill him. but you have to tax his system out first.

Originally posted by meep-meep
While getting your heart scrambled isn't as gruesome as getting your skeleton ripped out it is arguably no less lethal and VERY traumatic. Simply scrambled isn't going to do much. the skeleton rip is over a larger area doing damage to everything between his bones and the way out. . . Probably a complete disconnect of certain parts.

jrodslam
Originally posted by Creshosk
Now where could I possibly have gotten the idea and even the phrase that spiderman punching him turns his innards(the brain is an organ guys. . .:rolleyesmile into Wonder-Jello?

"An ordinary man would be wonder-jello"

What does that have to do with his innards(stomach, intestines, bladder, kidneys), in which we were mainly talking about?

Its clear that Spiderman is punching him in the head. Not his innards. The stomach innards are way more accessible than the brain.

Creshosk
Originally posted by jrodslam
"An ordinary man would be wonder-jello"

What does that have to do with his innards(stomach, intestines, bladder, kidneys), in which we were mainly talking about?

Its clear that Spiderman is punching him in the head. Not his innards. The stomach innards are way more accessible than the brain. Wolverine's innards are no more durable than that of an ordinary man. He just heals back faster.

jinzin
and his fights with hulk?

armandovalles
i think most people here seriously overrate Wolverine's durability and healing factor. I dont think Wolverine is even in the top 10 for healing factors, and he has normal skin density. Any sorta blast, like one from Genis or the Silver Surfer or guys like that would probly kill Logan instantly. Im not 100% sure on this, but i dont think he can heal from being a skeleton from having all his skin blasted off.

Nataku8188
Wolverine heals from shots from Hulk and Spider-man so quickly because the organs are still there. It's like knocking down a Lego house. You still have all the pieces there to put back together. Now, if you do something like burn away his flesh, rip out some organs, etc. it takes him much longer to heal because his body has to start from scratch. Personally, I don't believe he should be able to replace organs and the such, because your body simply doesn't have the resources to grow and form new organs. Your body can rebuild skin, hair, teeth, organ tissue, etc. but the actual organs themselves are a different story. Your body can patch job just about anything, but how is it going to make a whole new ****ing liver? It can just build it piece by piece, it has to make it the only way it knows how, by growing one from scratch, which takes a hella lotta time and a hella lotta energy and resources. Thus, if you ripped out all of Wolverine's respiratory system, he'd die. His body can't reform them in time to save himself, whilst his digestive system he will live as long as his body can provide enough resources to rebuild this system, because it's not required immediately to live.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Creshosk
Simply cutting up his heart, but leaving it in there without the thing that cut it?

Why wouldn't he? Hulk and Spiderman turn his innards into Wonder jello. but his organs reform and he's just fine afterwards.

What would prevent that? Pain?

Hulk and spiderman.

Having the adamantium ripped out after a fight with magneto so he was already messed up you mean?

Tax his system out and you can kill him. but you have to tax his system out first.

Simply scrambled isn't going to do much. the skeleton rip is over a larger area doing damage to everything between his bones and the way out. . . Probably a complete disconnect of certain parts.

Ok I should have clarified a little but I assumed you read the other posts. Look I'm not trying to go through every little thing point by point in comic book land . I'm trying to be logical abut this topic but that's probably the wrong method here. If you read my other posts I have stated that I'm basing a lot of my argument on my own opinions on how I feel Wolvie's durability should be. You don't have to respond but if you want to criticize my opinions feel free. Wolverine does exhibit ridiculous displays of durablitity in my opinion and I would like to see him dead. I think some fans might be outraged but wahtever, I don't really give a shit. I want him to die. It's a little ironic that I say these things cause he once used to be my favorite character until I realized he had a cult like following who I disagree with on many points.
Hulk should be able to ****ing tear his ass up. Ignoring pain is one thing. If Wolverine had a heartattack I doubt he would brush it off like hiccup. NOw imagine getting your heart mixed around with asharp object? I'm sure he would just smile and stab whoever was fuking up his heart. NO reason for him go into spasms and grab his chest...it's only his heart you know the place that regulates bolld flow to every part of his body.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Wolverine heals from shots from Hulk and Spider-man so quickly because the organs are still there. It's like knocking down a Lego house. You still have all the pieces there to put back together. Now, if you do something like burn away his flesh, rip out some organs, etc. it takes him much longer to heal because his body has to start from scratch. Personally, I don't believe he should be able to replace organs and the such, because your body simply doesn't have the resources to grow and form new organs. Your body can rebuild skin, hair, teeth, organ tissue, etc. but the actual organs themselves are a different story. Your body can patch job just about anything, but how is it going to make a whole new ****ing liver? It can just build it piece by piece, it has to make it the only way it knows how, by growing one from scratch, which takes a hella lotta time and a hella lotta energy and resources. Thus, if you ripped out all of Wolverine's respiratory system, he'd die. His body can't reform them in time to save himself, whilst his digestive system he will live as long as his body can provide enough resources to rebuild this system, because it's not required immediately to live.

Good points. It should take longer for his body to regenerate complex organs if at all. In fact I agree with it being silly that he should be able to just create a whole new organ. Your right the energy required for that would be a lot. But that would make sense..

long pig
What does "An ordinary man would be wonder jello by now." have to do with Wolverine?

Spiderman was just commenting on Wolverine's durability, which isn't a normal human. We can't take spiderman's word on anything in that fight, spiderman also thought he could break Wolverine's neck.

Wolverine's body isn't like a normal human, it's way more, but he doesn't heal organs in seconds. That's silly.

Creshosk
Originally posted by long pig
What does "An ordinary man would be wonder jello by now." have to do with Wolverine?

Spiderman was just commenting on Wolverine's durability, which isn't a normal human. We can't take spiderman's word on anything in that fight, spiderman also thought he could break Wolverine's neck.

Wolverine's body isn't like a normal human, it's way more, but he doesn't heal organs in seconds. That's silly. SDo Spiderman's a liar. .a nd he's lying to . . himself?

And it was Wolverine telling Spiderman that Spiderman could break his neck. . he was however lying.

And he has regrown his limbs before. . .

Next Venom_girl
Boom!
Next issue he was fine.
(This never gets old). stick out tongue

long pig
Spiderman wasn't lying. Spiderman was giving his opinion, which just so happens to have been wrong.

Wolverine can't remake vital organs during punches. His body is just more durable than a human.

Wolverine might could regrow limbs if he didn't have adamantium, I doubt it, though.

Creshosk
Originally posted by long pig
Spiderman wasn't lying. Spiderman was giving his opinion, which just so happens to have been wrong.Which opinion was that?

Spiderman didn't make a comment about breaking Wolverine's neck. Wolverine said that Spiderman could break his neck. He was wrong of course.

Originally posted by long pig
Wolverine can't remake vital organs during punches. His body is just more durable than a human. Hmm . . that's an interesting theory, but his skin hasn't shown any enhanced durability, he gets cut and pierced same as normal.

Originally posted by long pig
Wolverine might could regrow limbs if he didn't have adamantium, I doubt it, though. Well, he regrew the flesh, his skeleton remained intact even though the flesh was removed.

long pig
The opinion that Wolverine should be jelly? He shouldn't be, he doesn't have normal human durability.
Spiderman is a more believable source of Wolverine's power, than Wolverine himself?

Not really.

So, you think Wolverine healing liquefied organs is more a logical theory than Wolverine just having higher durability?

Yeah....no.


That's not regrowing a limb, that's regrowing skin around a limb. Did it happen instantaneously? Say, 1/2 second or less?

Because growing back more complicated liquifyed organs between punches would have to happen in less than a second.

Creshosk
Originally posted by long pig
The opinion that Wolverine should be jelly? He shouldn't be, he doesn't have normal human durability.
Spiderman is a more believable source of Wolverine's power, than Wolverine himself?

Not really. You think that Spiderman isn't a very good source of HIS own powers?

Originally posted by long pig
So, you think Wolverine healing liquefied organs is more a logical theory than Wolverine just having higher durability?

Yeah....no.I think I'll believe what's in the comics rather than unsubstantiated claims.


Originally posted by long pig
That's not regrowing a limb, that's regrowing skin around a limb. Did it happen instantaneously? Say, 1/2 second or less?

Because growing back more complicated liquifyed organs between punches would have to happen in less than a second. It's not just the skin, we could see his bones, so he had to regrow muscle and tendons too.

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Funny how they never adhere to their statements True that.

Creshosk
Yeah, look at Namor.

Heck stats and bios are like one writers take on it, one occurance in one of the comics.

meep-meep
bump

cheldon
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
True that.

there are many different stats. sometimes he heals almost as fast as the hulk. other times he can barely heal a couple of bullet wounds

wolverine8888
actauly thats not true at all cheldon unless ur comapreing very old comcis to new ones. wolverine being stabbed in the heart would be of only miner annoance. also bullets caan't kill him he cna take 100 of them with out caring

wolverine8888
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
True that.
and in comcis it stated that he can survive having a head cut off a nuke and organs being taken out which are shown so im gunna go with that. also that from 2004 x-men hand book x mark which every one knows is very incorrect.

Creshosk
Originally posted by wolverine8888
actauly thats not true at all cheldon unless ur comapreing very old comcis to new ones. wolverine being stabbed in the heart would be of only miner annoance. also bullets caan't kill him he cna take 100 of them with out caring

wolverine8888
this one good as well

cheldon
Originally posted by wolverine8888
actauly thats not true at all cheldon unless ur comapreing very old comcis to new ones. wolverine being stabbed in the heart would be of only miner annoance. also bullets caan't kill him he cna take 100 of them with out caring

y a i kno, but sometimes he doesn't heal as fast, depending on the writer.

wolverine8888
kinda but he still heals so well that bullets could never kill him

srankmissingnin
Wolverine was stabbed through the heart by Deathstroke... it just left him open for Deathstokes next attack.

Also for the guy who said that Ennis was fired from marvel for writing Wolverine badly in his Punisher appearance (which he certainly did; Ennis... what a hack) well thats wrong. That fight happened in Punisher 16 (v4), after this fight he wrote until the title relaunch after issue 28; then continued to write the Punisher title (v5) from issue one until... now (issue 29?)

Creshosk
Originally posted by cheldon
y a i kno, but sometimes he doesn't heal as fast, depending on the writer. depends on circumstances more actually. His factor CAN be taxed out. And when that happens it doesn't heal as quickly.

Darth_Erebus
DAMN! And I was hoping this was a call for the end of all the endless Wolverine threads.

King KAM
You guys are player haters...... Wolverine rocks.....out effin loud.


FOREVER!!!!!!! he can take more punishment than lemmys kidneys, and kieth richards liverl

wolverine8888
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine was stabbed through the heart by Deathstroke... it just left him open for Deathstokes next attack.

Also for the guy who said that Ennis was fired from marvel for writing Wolverine badly in his Punisher appearance (which he certainly did; Ennis... what a hack) well thats wrong. That fight happened in Punisher 16 (v4), after this fight he wrote until the title relaunch after issue 28; then continued to write the Punisher title (v5) from issue one until... now (issue 29?)

when ernis wrote punisher the one were DD spiderman and wolverine fall for shit they would never fall for was bad writing. marvel released an article sayign sorry for it. also if u notice amrvel also ignors that comic and acts as if it never happen

roughrider
Originally posted by meep-meep
Yes drowning him would work. Although the person doing the drowning would need to be sufficiently strong, fast, agile and intelligent to do it. Someone like Thor comes mind definitely. Namor definitely. They simply need to grab his wrist and hold him under. This is turning into a sort of sadistic topic. Hmm..well, anyway he would drown for sure.

Tiger Shark did that very thing in the Acts Of Vengence crossover many years ago. Dragged him underwater, and planted him claws-first into an underwater rock. He swam off, and Logan was working frantically to pull his claws out of the rock - almost didn't make it.

roughrider
Originally posted by wolverine8888
when ernis wrote punisher the one were DD spiderman and wolverine fall for shit they would never fall for was bad writing. marvel released an article sayign sorry for it. also if u notice amrvel also ignors that comic and acts as if it never happen

Right, because Garth Ennis continues his rude, violent writing for Marvel as we speak.

wolverine8888
actauly not so true. wolverine said his ehalign factor would allow him to survive for a very long time

leonidas
just thought i'd stop in and say i really like the title of this thread .. .
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