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blood match

I don't know much about both characters to make a decision. I'll wait till further posts.

Ikaris is an eternal, correct?

Originally posted by Dizzle
Ikaris is an eternal, correct?

YEA AND HE WINS BY THE WAY

Originally posted by thesilverspider
YEA AND HE WINS BY THE WAY

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/ikaris.htm

Indeed, this guy's pretty freaking huge. Blasts with 260 pounds of concussive force per square inch, some telekinesis, very limited telepathy, class 40 strength, complete control over his own molecules, some godly regeneration, mach 1 flight speed... I like it.

Wondy hit's harder, but just about every other advantage goes to Ikaris.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Wondy hit's harder, but just about every other advantage goes to Ikaris.

And flight speed. Wondy cruises around at escape velocity, Ikaris cruises around at mach 1... But due to telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, and ability to tap cosmic energy, Ikaris should win.

But Black Bolt did physically outmaneuver and thrash Ikaris. Then again, he's a better hand to hand combatant, and Wondy has only trained with the likes of Captain America and Hawkeye.

Wondy did hold his own against one of the physically strongest Eternals, Hyperion.

Here, Hyperion dropping Simon through a planet and then through a sun:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/hyperionplanetdive9xq6ov.jpg

His durability should be able to resist 260 pounds of concussive force per square inch. He did survive the blast from the Nega Bomb while just a few feet away from it.

Ikaris should win... Ikaris could also manipulate matter as well, but is not as skilled as Sersi is. Wonder Man will KO him before the Ikaris can get serious.

I give it to Wonder Man 5.5 times out of 10.

Between his natural durability and his damn good shields, Ikaris should be able to take anything Wonder Man dishes out. 6/10 for the Eternal, I think.

Ikaris

Ikaris........ that Hyperion thing was bad-swriting

Originally posted by Wild Cowboy
Ikaris........ that Hyperion thing was bad-swriting

That wasn't bad writing. Wonder Man's durability is up there with the best of them.

He didn't hold his own in that scan He go knock 20miles away and it broke his ribs and broke his arm and barely had a answer for that shot before Hyperion drove him threw the planet and into the sun.

That Hyperion I think would beat Superman he was very Impressive.

Ikaris is a "prime eternal" think of zuras with better fighting ability same strength level. Ikaris is a class 100 6/7 in strength like all eternals he is indestructible, can increase his strength, speed, energy output, durability and other abilities at will. With 20,000 years of fighting experience and getting better as leader of the eternals not as wise as Zuras but he is getting there.

10/10 Ikaris prime eternal is very powerful

Ikaris will kick his ass plain and simple.

Thats the first time I saw Darkone post somthin that hasnt anything to do with Majestrose !!!

Ok, I'm gonna compromise. Ikaris will win in everything except a slugfest when battling Wonder Man.

If Ikaris uses his other powers, he wins 10 times out of 10.

If he tries to slug it out with Wonder Man, he gets knocked out after a tough fight. 6 times out of 10 for Wonder Man.

Both are immortal and never tire due to self generating ionic energy within Wonder man's body, and Ikaris's ability to absorb and convert cosmic energy to bolster his stamina and is practically immortal as well.

So, slugfest, Wonder Man wins 6 times out of 10.

In a battle with both to their potentials, of course Ikaris wins 10 times out of 10.

See, he can be knocked down:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsike14bw.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsike29cb.jpg

Keep in mind Wondy's current speed is around escape velocity. Much faster than Ikaris was when he got the drop on Black Bolt.

Ikaris can increase his speed also. Ikaris wasn't trying to hurt blackbolt if he did their would have been some serious destruction. Ikaris will still kick wonder man ass strength wise ikaris can increase it at will, remember what sersi did to hercules ko him in one punch, ikaris is stronger than her and a better fighter he is under forgotten one in fighting ability.

10/10

^^Right !!!

Wonder Man will still knock him out in a slugfest.

So, slugfest, Wonder Man wins 6 times out of 10.

In a battle with both to their potentials, of course Ikaris wins 10 times out of 10.

Ikaris and BlackBolt were both toying with one another in that skirmish. Either one could've obliterated the other in that full-nelson if they had tried. Black-Bold is one of the few who could probably kill an Eternal if he unleashed his full might in Ikaris's face. Conversely, I don't think he could have survived if Ikaris had blasted him in the back of the head either.

Ikaris lifts 40tons Blackbolt lifts 60tons.

Originally posted by golem370
Ikaris lifts 40tons Blackbolt lifts 60tons.


That's old they have been updated. Ikaris and Black Bolt are almost the same. Ikaris will still kicks wonder man ass

Ikaris
Prime Eternal

Strength: 6 (variable )
Intelligence: 5
Energy Projection: 6
Mental Powers: 5 (variable)
Fighting Ability: 6
Speed: 5 (variable)
Durability: 7
Stamina: 7



Black Bolt
King of Inhumans

Strength: 6 (variable)
Intelligence:5
Energy Projection:6
Menatl Powers: 5 or 6
Fighting Ability: 6
Speed: 5
Durability:6
Stamina: 6

If their current versions fought, Wondy's toast. If Wondy fought the version of Ikaris before he beat Thena to become Prime Eternal, I think he would have had a chance.

Current Ikaris VS. Current Wonder Man Ikaris wins 11 times out of 10.

But...

Classic Ikaris(before becoming Prime eternal) VS. Wonder Man Ikaris wins maybe 9 times out of 10.

If it was a slugfest on the other hand, Wondy takes it 6 times out of 10.

Originally posted by golem370
Ikaris lifts 40tons Blackbolt lifts 60tons.

Are their strength levels up their with Thor? Hulk?



Look, whooping on Goliath. Even growing to match his size:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/wm25-fight.jpg

Whooping on the being formerly known as Goliath:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/av12-fight.jpg

Whopping Thor's ass:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/WBioN.jpg

Against a Prime Eternal, Wondy has no chance.

Against classic Ikaris before battling Thena for the the Prime eternal leadership, Wondy has a decent chance.

Bump.

Ike

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Bump.

You sly fox you!

Going by recent showings, Ikaris wins handily.

Ikaris wins

I have to back track on my earlier statements; WM should beat Ikaris head up, granted Ikaris can amp and held his own against Hercules and Red Hulk, but in the long run WM potential should beat Ikaris.

ikaris

Wonder Man's Sentry/like strength is going to prove sufficient.

Originally posted by zopzop

You sly fox you!

Going by recent showings, Ikaris wins handily.


I thought it was a pretty even matchup.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17


I thought it was a pretty even matchup.

No.

Originally posted by carver9
No.
Go on.

I honestly believe that if Simon gets in Ike's face he'd end up beating the shit out of him.

Originally posted by Stoic
I honestly believe that if Simon gets in Ike's face he'd end up beating the shit out of him.
You'd be wrong though.

Ikaris sonned Blaastar during the "Death in Olympia" Avengers arc and that Blaastar was written pretty beastly.

He's held his own vs Forgotten One (a CL100 Eternal) and it looked like neither side had the upper hand till the fight was stopped.

He held his own vs Immortal Hercules.

He just recently tussled with Cap/Hammond Torch/Namor and was beating them down despite holding back (he was fighting mind control).

Look how Namor absolutely HUMILIATED Simon (and Simon had help) vs how Ikaris was knocking him around.

Or how Immortal Hercules humiliated Simon, yet was stalemated by Ikaris.

Ikaris got this every single time.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock Whopping Thor's ass:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/WBioN.jpg Looks like whooping his nuts.

Ikaris for the majority.

WM has battled Thor, Hercules, and Savage and held his own. Ikaris outside of Forgotten One is probable second strongest earth Eternal without amping, but WM should be able to put Ikaris down.

Originally posted by the Darkone
WM has battled Thor, Hercules, and Savage and held his own. Ikaris outside of Forgotten One is probable second strongest earth Eternal without amping, but WM should be able to put Ikaris down.
Thor put a smoldering hole in his chest with Mjolnir and Simon died.

Hercules busted up his face something awful and had him down before other people jumped in to distract him.

Simon tussled with Merged Hulk and held his own for a while. In a flashback issue, Grey Hulk almost pushed his sh|t in. So make of that what you will.

Grey Hulk one shot koed Simon. Ikaris is winning this.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948646_13.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948647_14-15.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948648_16.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948649_17.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948650_18.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948651_19.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Grey Hulk one shot koed Simon. Ikaris is winning this.
Originally posted by carver9
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948646_13.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948647_14-15.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948648_16.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948649_17.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948650_18.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948651_19.jpg
And there we go. Thanks Carver!

Originally posted by zopzop
And there we go. Thanks Carver!

How well did Ike do against Rulk? How well did Simon do against Rulk? Case closed, Simon wins.

When did Rulk and Ikaris fight?

Originally posted by carver9
When did Rulk and Ikaris fight?

Couple years ago. Ike didn't do so well.

Originally posted by Stoic
Couple years ago. Ike didn't do so well.
Ike did well enough. He didn't get his face smashed in like a little puss against Herc like Simon did.

Or get absolutely humiliated against Namor despite the fact that Simon had help.

Originally posted by zopzop
Ike did well enough. He didn't get his face smashed in like a little puss against Herc like Simon did.

Or get absolutely humiliated against Namor despite the fact that Simon had help.

That still doesn't change the fact that Simon was able to defeat a guy that Ike was not able to. My point is that you guys saying 10/10 and all of that mess are wrong. You're going overboard with this Ikaris praise. Fact, he would not beat Simon to the point of a no contest, and yes it would not be outlandish for Simon to win this.

Originally posted by Stoic
That still doesn't change the fact that Simon was able to defeat a guy that Ike was not able to. My point is that you guys saying 10/10 and all of that mess are wrong. You're going overboard with this Ikaris praise. Fact, he would not beat Simon to the point of a no contest, and yes it would not be outlandish for Simon to win this.
Ikaris would crush WM. Rulk was all over the place power wise and recently he's been jobbed out like you wouldn't believe.

Look at your boy vs Hercules :
http://s27.postimg.org/e93vblyq7/herculesares13.jpg

Can't find the scans of Namor treating Simon (with backup) like a cheap whore. Maybe another forum member can post them.

Then compare those fights to when Ikaris threw down with the same opponents. Night and Day.

WM wins, he puts Ikaris in the million dollar dream