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The Dark Knight goes rogue...


Unknown to the JLA, Batman has gone completely insane, and for the last 5 years has been setting a plan in motion for total and complete world domination. He has come to the conclusion that the only way to end crime on Earth is for himself and his regime to take complete control of the planet and rule with an iron fist...

A bat-glove sheathed iron fist, that is.

Batman, while on surveillance detail in the Watchtower, contacts 3 of his cohorts, Deathstroke, Lex Luthor, and Detective Chimp, to inform them that the time has come.

Batman then activates a boomtube to transport the remainder of his allies to the Watchtower:

Mr. Sinister and Dr. Doom.

Batman has provided Sinister with dna samples of all of the members of the JLA to create a clone army and find and exploit any of their genetic weakness, provided Doom with specs of all energy sources and scopes of power of the members of the league (including the Speedforce and the power of Oa), and also gave them 5 ounces of kryptonite to sythesize and purify to it's most lethal form, for the last 5 years in the Marvel Universe.

In all, their forces consist of:

Batman and the Wayne Enterprises Munitions and Defense Division.
Deathstroke and his army of mercenaries
Dr. Doom and 50,000 Doombots w/anti-JLA upgrades.
Lex Luthor, the US Military, and STAR Labs
Mr. Sinister and 5,000 meta-clones, each designed with the combined abilities of each JLA member, but at 89.5% the originals capacity.
Detective Chimp (for comic relief)

Can this force conquer DC Earth?

Discuss.

You got some original threads...

I think they can do it.

Originally posted by illadelph12
In all, their forces consist of:

Batman and the Wayne Enterprises Munitions and Defense Division.
Deathstroke and his army of mercenaries
Dr. Doom and 50,000 Doombots w/anti-JLA upgrades.
Lex Luthor, the US Military, and STAR Labs
Mr. Sinister and 5,000 meta-clones, each designed with the combined abilities of each JLA member, but at 89.5% the originals capacity.
Detective Chimp (for comic relief)

Can this force conquer DC Earth?

Discuss.
You sure don't like taking risks ;-

Anyway, Wolverine wins lol.

Nice background.

And yes....the Bat team wins this. The only thing they would have to do is take out the bigger powerhouses out first (beginning with the Martian Manhunter).
After that, since they want to take over the entire Earth and not just wipe out the JLA, they would have to ensure that certain characters like the Spectre and/or the Phantom Stranger do not interfere.
I am also assuming that Mr Sinister will have managed to come up with anti-Oa energy strategies that do not just work on the JLA Green Lanterns but also on a whole bunch of extra-terrestrial GLs that would come to the earth sector to sort out things (thus the anti-Oa thing would have to work on more than one or two rings).
If all of that is taken care of then ....they win.

Although after winning I really hope that Bruce has other plans in place to prevent the guys on his team from trying to take power from him. Having Lex Luthor, Dr Doom, Mr Sinister and Slade standing behind you is NEVER a good idea.

Detective Chimp might be ok.

Sentinels of Magic, The Society, Themyscira, Jakeem Thunder and the JSA. They'd destroy the JLA but they'd still get wiped out by everyone else. I wonder if Bats could prepare for Diana's Godwave...

as long pig says

Originally posted by long pig
Batman.....well...he has a plan. If he DOESN'T have a plan....well...he already planned for it.

Batman wins.

Bats gang takes it. Is diana's godwave sort of like Thor's Godblast?

Great post by the way...probably the most original I've read here.

You saw what Batman was capable of with taking down the JLA with his traps. He easily conquers this world if he has al that extra help. Easily.

Once the JLA falls, who's gonna save earth? Jay Garrick? Captain Marvel?

Batman wins. Then he buys out Luthor's company and leaves him penniless, annexes Latveria and exiles Doom, sends the Doombots after Slade and leads the remaining Injustice Gang members to take out Sinister and his army.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Once the JLA falls, who's gonna save earth? Jay Garrick? Captain Marvel?

Batman wins. Then he buys out Luthor's company and leaves him penniless, annexes Latveria and exiles Doom, sends the Doombots after Slade and leads the remaining Injustice Gang members to take out Sinister and his army. fate

Sentinels of Magic are more powerful than JLA based on Fate alone. The JSA is arguably more powerful. Actually, considering Jakeem Thunder, the JSA pretty much dwarfs the JLA in power.

What about if Manhunter attacks Batmans mind or Green Lantern turns into Parallax or Spectre?

Originally posted by The Ion
Sentinels of Magic are more powerful than JLA based on Fate alone. The JSA is arguably more powerful.

On the JSA thing ....that's something I've wondered about, since it does seem that the JSA has members that are extremely powerful. Eg Jakeen Thunder (who can take care of virtually anything solo once he unleashes that 5th dimension genie), and Fate.

Yet they always 'seem' to play second fiddle to the JLA.

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Batman.....well...he has a plan. If he DOESN'T have a plan....well...he already planned for it.

Batman wins.

Originally posted by spetznaz
On the JSA thing ....that's something I've wondered about, since it does seem that the JSA has members that are extremely powerful. Eg Jakeen Thunder (who can take care of virtually anything solo once he unleashes that 5th dimension genie), and Fate.

Yet they always 'seem' to play second fiddle to the JLA.
You're right. That's why the JSA are known as the JLA busters on comic book forums. Considering the JSA's wealth of experience and sheer power, I definitely place them at the top of DC's teams.

Personally I think 'Team Batman' will lose this one due to in-fighting and back-stabbing. I mean, Lex Luthor, Mr Sinister and Dr. Doom are hardly trustworthy allies.

Someone spelled "rogue" correctly instead of making it out to sound like a color or like a female cosmetics accessory

I think i'm in love

Originally posted by The Ion
You're right. That's why the JSA are known as the JLA busters on comic book forums. Considering the JSA's wealth of experience and sheer power, I definitely place them at the top of DC's teams. It also helped through most of their career they had Spectre to back them. lol.

Originally posted by Juntai
It also helped through most of their career they had Spectre to back them. lol.

Hmm...

Interesting responses.

So Sinister's 5,000 JLA Composite clones (with the combined abilities of Flash, Manhunter, Supes, and all of the other members of the league, but at 89.5% capacity), on top of all of the other resources, under the leadership and command of Doom, Deathstroke, Batman, Sinister, Luthor, and Detective Chimp, with 5 years of planning, aren't enough to conquer DC Earth?

Don't forget, Doom has arcane abilities as well.

He finished in second behind Dr. Strange in the Sorcerer Supreme competition (and that's canon material, not just net hearsay or hyperbole. It was in the same story where Doom and Strange travelled to Mephisto's dimension to free Doom's mother's soul).

This is Batman and Co., planning for complete DC World domination, not just JLA domination. Batman only has direct access to the JLA's genetic material and information, not that he, Deathstroke, and Luthor haven't accounted for other heroes on DC Earth. The JLA info is just what was provided to Doom and Sinister for the power sources to usurp and genetic material to manipulate because Batman has constant access to the information and trying to obtain info on other groups he's not affiliated with would arouse suspicion.

Basically, what I'm saying is take into consideration Batman, Luthor, Slade, and Detective Chimp's documented knowledge, experiences, and interactions with characters on DC Earth, but as far as resources go, Batman only obtained and supplied info he readily had access to when he forwarded it to Sinister and Doom so no one would suspect anything.

The JSA, and other DC Earth based teams that Batman, Luthor, Deathstroke and Detective Chimp have interacted with, should be assumed to be accounted for in their plans.

it wouldnt work.........once you get three megalomaniacs like sinsiter, lex and doom, who happened to have plans of thier own for wolrd conquest, and are all abject geniuses themselves like bats..thier not wanna gonna take any freaking orders from anybody. lex would be the first to start conspiring agansit all of them, and then doom.. sinister would likely be cool and be a good team player, cuz as long as he has free reign, and unlimted resources to conduct his experiemnts, he's a happy camper, but it'll all go to shit in two shakes of a lamb's tail, then bats would still have contingency plans for all of them.....ergo from the start he wouldnt trust them

Would that happen before or after conquering the planet?

Originally posted by manjaro
it wouldnt work.........once you get three megalomaniacs like sinsiter, lex and doom, who happened to have plans of thier own for wolrd conquest, and are all abject geniuses themselves like bats..thier not wanna gonna take any freaking orders from anybody. lex would be the first to start conspiring agansit all of them, and then doom.. sinister would likely be cool and be a good team player, cuz as long as he has free reign, and unlimted resources to conduct his experiemnts, he's a happy camper, but it'll all go to shit in two shakes of a lamb's tail, then bats would still have contingency plans for all of them.....ergo from the start he wouldnt trust them

He's right they all have different motives.

Luthor just wants to become king of the world , he's the basic greed and evil located in any man.

Doom wishes to be a superior to all he surveys, the guy's got a god complex the size of Russia !!

Deathstroke is very similar to Big Boss from the mgs series , all he wants is a place to be who he is without any interruptions......

Sinister wants to be a god (dont confuse this with doom) he wants to create the purest race of mutants ever.....

Detective chimp wants to be paid in banana's ...and maybe a tire swing ...and did i mention bananas ?

While bat's simply wants to ensure no more crime and suffering , and upon all these things connecting a war will ensue.......

Backstabbing is sure to happen, however, think about it this way.

Of course Batman is not going to trust them, so he has that contingency plan. What does he have as a backup? Those JLA clones are fitted with a controlling thing that Batman can only access. You think Sinister is gonna be able to stand up to 5000 people like Flash and Superman? No way. Deathstroke and whatnot too. Luthor can be killed by Batman himself if he wanted to, and Doom is a smart enough man not to double-cross Batman until after the world is conquered. The question here is not whether Batman can conquer the world and maintain it until he dies, but whether he can conquer it. He does, and then Doom tries something, and gets killed by JLA clones, and Batman is victorious. Either way, the partnership wouldn't break until Batman was victorious in conquering DC Earth - then the fighting would begin. And don't you think Batman would play to the hearts of Sinister, Deathstroke and Doom? Luthor's a good manipulator but Batman understands psychology far better than Lex, and has him beat in that department.

Hey, if a villain can convince another villain to work with him, that's one thing - but when you get a hero that has constantly fought a villain, and brings him on their side, that's something completely different on a manipulation power scale.

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