Sentry v The Silver Surfer
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Sir Whirlysplat
Sentry has beaten Terrax and allegedly beaten Galactus

Genis used teleportation for the ring out. In this battle that is not allowed! Who wins the Golden Guardian of Good or the Silver Sailor of the Spaceways?
leonheartmm
cmon whirly, u shud know better. sentry beats his ass every time!not even a battle sentry 10/10
CaptainStoic
I'm not sure I'm feeling this Sentry character he still seems kind of 2Dish to me, I have also never seen his alleged fight with Galactus, but if this is true, I can't see the Silver Surfer beating him, I saw The Sentry crush Terrax without contest, I've also seen The Silver Surfer handle Terrax without much of a fight. I think that the Sentry in his new limited series #1 could beat the Surfer though... I mean when I saw what he did to Terrax who is most likely the weakest of Galactus' Heralds except for maybe Firelord I was kind of impressed, but again Terrax is no match for the Surfer I, have to give Sentry a little more time to prove that he's on the level of one of Galactus' strongest Heralds, but if he indeed turned Galactus away, then I would start thinking that this thread should have been whether or not The Sentry could beat Tyrant.
Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by leonheartmm
cmon whirly, u shud know better. sentry beats his ass every time!not even a battle sentry 10/10
I think it's likely Sentry wins - certainly his as fast as the heralds if the Terrax scenario was anything to go by!
Surfer has also had problems with Terrax sometimes, take Blockbuster!
batdude123
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Sentry has beaten Terrax and allegedly beaten Galactus

Genis used teleportation for the ring out. In this battle that is not allowed! Who wins the Golden Guardian of Good or the Silver Sailor of the Spaceways?
Sentry didn't beat Galactus, he stalemated him.
Wally West
I know you like bumping old threads so here you go:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364526&
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=353274&
Validus
Stalemating Galactus? Who can't do that? I stalemated Galactus this afternoon. Fun stuff.
Sentry hasn't done enough for me to put him over Surfer.
leonheartmm
and what has surfer done that puts him even equal to sentry? sentry's shown more power while casually fighting than surfer has as guardian. theres a reason why hes called the most powerful superheroe in marvel and that wasnt a title given to him by me, it was marvel itself. there always the presence of the VOID with sentry which is even more powerful thana galactus. surfer loses 10/10
Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by Wally West
I know you like bumping old threads so here you go:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364526&
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=353274&
Funny your search didn't show my original version of this. Weird! I couldn't find it either so I recreated it, hope that makes sense noob.
Validus
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and what has surfer done that puts him even equal to sentry?
It isn't up to Surfer to prove himself. When a new character debuts it's up to him or her to put themselves at the top tier. Radd has proven himself as a top tier time and time again. Taglines don't mean squat. Wonder Woman is "officially" DC's number two but I don't think anyone here would argue that Flash, Green Lantern, Captain Marvel and others couldn't hand her a Grade A ass kicking.
Personally I don't see Sentry as "Versus" type of character. All his comics are pure characterization. Maybe when Bendis finally does something with the Avengers that'll change.
Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by Validus
It isn't up to Surfer to prove himself. When a new character debuts it's up to him or her to put themselves at the top tier. Radd has proven himself as a top tier time and time again. Taglines don't mean squat. Wonder Woman is "officially" DC's number two but I don't think anyone here would argue that Flash, Green Lantern, Captain Marvel and others wouldn't hand her a Grade A ass kicking.
Personally I don't see Sentry as "Versus" type of character. All his comics are pure characterization. Maybe when Bendis finally does something with the Avengers that'll change.
In the pre 90's days Surfer was about being a "character" also, it all changed when he got back into space and someone said Surfer couldn't bring life, I seem to remember he did this with Quasimodo waayyyyy back, do you remember that Validus or Rough Rider?
leonheartmm
but then again, lucifer comics are even more about CHARACTERIZATION, wud u give surfer odds over lucifer any time soon?
and he HAS put himself on the top tier by stalemating galactus, not having any real low showings, overwhelming PHOTON, battling the VOID that can swallow galaxies etc. fewer showings doesnt mean hes not proven himself.
Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by leonheartmm
but then again, lucifer comics are even more about CHARACTERIZATION, wud u give surfer odds over lucifer any time soon?
and he HAS put himself on the top tier by stalemating galactus, not having any real low showings, overwhelming PHOTON, battling the VOID that can swallow galaxies etc. fewer showings doesnt mean hes not proven himself.
I agree Sentry so far appears almost unequalled as regards power compared to other heroes, but I also agree with Validus, his comics are very high quality and not really about battles. Like all the best comics!
Validus
Originally posted by leonheartmm
but then again, lucifer comics are even more about CHARACTERIZATION, wud u give surfer odds over lucifer any time soon?
and he HAS put himself on the top tier by stalemating galactus, not having any real low showings, overwhelming PHOTON, battling the VOID that can swallow galaxies etc. fewer showings doesnt mean hes not proven himself.
Lucifer survived a multiverse exploding without getting a tan. Even if that was his only showing, thats enough to say Surfer couldn't touch him.
Thor stalemated Galactus. Better yet, Thor stalemated Galactus ON PANEL. So did Reed Richards. I'm not going to take a few words from Spider-Man as cold hard fact. Even if he did stalemate G, we have no way of knowing what level Galactus was at that day. Hasn't Galactus been starved everytime he's come to Earth to feed on it? Hence, the heroes trying to drive him off.
Sentry never overwhelmed Genis either. Genis was standing tall while Sentry was on his knees, looking quite pathetic and mumbling about not holding back anymore. This is right after Genis got done trash talking him in the Mircoverse. Added to this, Genis was holding back power as well. The reason Genis teleported him back was because the rest of the Avengers were already finished so there was need to continue with Sentry. The Thunderbolts came to do a job and they did it. Victory: Genis and the Thunderbolts. Loser: Sentry and Avengers.
leonheartmm
not true. genis transported him to the microverse precisely BECAUSE he couldnt handle him. and thor NEVER "stalemated" galactus. he only drove a weakened galactus away with his war cry. n reed richards has never stalemated galactus either, hes threatened him with powerful tech like the ultimate nullifier but never STALEMATED.{ad u do know that reed's tech is generally on a much higher power level than surfer will ever hope to be dontcha}
Validus
War cry? It was the Godly Essence Blast and Galactus left claiming he was on the brink of death. I'm actually being more than nice to Galan by claiming it was a stalemate in the first place. In reality, Thor flat out won that fight. You can't tell me what level Galactus was at when and if he fought Sentry because it's nothing but narrative hyperbole at this point.
Claiming Genis transported him because he couldn't handle him is your interpretation. Considering Genis could absorb energy from the univere itself, I highly doubt he'd be overwhelmed by anyone much less a guy who tends to do nothing but punch and punch harder. Hell, Genis' son Ely (same powers as Genis) flat out absorbed 5 star systems plus all the life energy into his Nega Bands. Throw in cosmic awareness and Genis' ability to keep Sentry from ever reaching his "full power" and I'd feel fairly confident saying Sentry would never beat him.
Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by Validus
War cry? It was the Godly Essence Blast and Galactus left claiming he was on the brink of death. I'm actually being more than nice to Galan by claiming it was a stalemate in the first place. In reality, Thor flat out won that fight. You can't tell me what level Galactus was at when and if he fought Sentry because it's nothing but narrative hyperbole at this point.
Claiming Genis transported him because he couldn't handle him is your interpretation. Considering Genis could absorb energy from the univere itself, I highly doubt he'd be overwhelmed by anyone much less a guy who tends to do nothing but punch and punch harder. Hell, Genis' son Ely (same powers as Genis) flat out absorbed 5 star systems plus all the life energy into his Nega Bands. Throw in cosmic awareness and Genis' ability to keep Sentry from ever reaching his "full power" and I'd feel fairly confident saying Sentry would never beat him.
Hmm except when Genis has a "can't lock on" moment due to Sentry's as yet unseen "other" abilities

We'll see.
jrodslam
Ummm. By any chance is it possible someone can post these fights?

Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ummm. By any chance is it possible someone can post these fights?
I would but my scanner is buggered sadly at the mo Jrod.

sorry
Validus
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ummm. By any chance is it possible someone can post these fights?
I posted Genis Vs Sentry in the Genis respect thread.
jrodslam
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I would but my scanner is buggered sadly at the mo Jrod.

sorry
Aarrgg! Its cool. Maybe ill see them oneday.
jrodslam
Originally posted by Validus
I posted Genis Vs Sentry in the Genis respect thread.
Ahh. Great.
supremthor
sentry holding of big G is nothing new..... shit thor alone drove big G back.. as of the moment i put sentry on Thors level nothing more then that... unless i see him doing something creater in power then thor
Mider
people dont act as if his hunger level doesnt mean anything one moment he can snap his fingers and trash a celestial as strong as the dreaming one then the next he loses to thor i mean give me a break he was hunger and you should admit it, the panthon gods are so strong yeah right thats why they cant even beat ONE celestial while galactus ate one of the strongest and in the future he ate ALL OF THEM. and i do take spidermans word seriously because he was there you were not, i mean its stupid to argue about how this character said this and its not true why would they lie its a freaking comic and the point of sentry is that he was not suppose to exist perioud all these feats he did they all happend on senty specials or something not many sentry comics to go around i dont know if in any of those were the ones were he fought galactus you can look them up but yeah dont judge galactus when he's hungry i mean marvel has him jobb so badly if he was actually real he'd have come and eaten the marvel studios by now.
Marcus4600
I stalemated Galactus with a planet size cheeseburger!
Anyway, I don't know if Sentry stalemated Galactus or not, but I don't think he's enough to beat the Surfer.
Mider
spiderman said he did why wouldnt i believe spiderman.
Validus
Originally posted by Mider
spiderman said he did why wouldnt i believe spiderman.
Because characters say stupid crap all the time? Can't count the number of times characters have said Batman is the most dangerous man on Earth. It's called hyperbole.
Sentry didn't stalemate Galactus on panel. Furthermore, none of the details of the fight were disclosed. Was he full power? Half powered? Damn near dead like the Alpha Flight fight? Who knows? We sure don't. You'd think that Galactus, even starved, would still be miles above the Silver Surfer but he sure as hell isn't portrayed in such a manner.
Marcus4600
I guess that they have to have the Purple Planet Eater be beaten sometime. They even had Thanos knock the big guy's helmet off. In reality, he's on the power level of Eternity. The thing about Marvel is that everybody's gotta be beaten once. However, it builds up for the next fight.
Mider
yeah but they made that a general statement not oh batman did this or that they just say he's this or that thats an opinion spiderman stated this as fact.
Hit and Run
Even so, even beating Galactus doesn't mean anything unless we get a good indication of how hungry or powerful he was at the time.
Mider
good point even though the comic doesnt exist that the thing happend does exist in the world of the MU but on panal no i dont believe it does.
supremthor
in comics you got others heroes like batman saying shite like superman is the most powerful heroe and blah blah blah we all no that aint true we no that and GL, wonder woman, flash, dr fate, martain manhunter, jakeem thunder,captain marvel, black adam, zatanna, capton atom, firestorm and ETC can all kill ether kill superman without much trouble all can bet him to the point were his almost dead anyday day of the week... so spiderman saying sentry is equal to big G is like Batman saying superman can take every heroe in the dc un..... or are u taking spidermans word over batmans.
Tulika
Mider, could you please consider punctuation? Thanks.
Silver Surfer takes this, his showings are greater than Sentry's, his powers more variable and his damage output and resistance too much for the S-man. Sorry Sentry, I like you, but you're not good enough for the Surfer!
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