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Representing the avengers are the Sentry, Thor, Ares, Iron Man, Captain America, Vision, Hercules, Wonder Man, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch.

vs.

Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman, Orion, Kyle Rayner, Flash(Barry Allen), Ray Palmer, and Zauriel.

It would be a stomp for team 2 with the flash there... Speed steal from there entire team and the rest of the jla mop up...

Team 2 wins but thor goes down fighting (might take two or three with him).

Originally posted by snyper1982
It would be a stomp for team 2 with the flash there... Speed steal from there entire team and the rest of the jla mop up... You really don't see the Sentry killing the Flash?

SENTRY RAPES.

Why would I?

Is there a specific reason why the JLA is down two members in comparison to the Avengers?

Originally posted by snyper1982
Why would I? Because of his powers and abilities.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Is there a specific reason why the JLA is down two members in comparison to the Avengers?

The flash.

Sentry solos

(yeah baby)

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Is there a specific reason why the JLA is down two members in comparison to the Avengers? Some of the avengers aren't that powerful such as Wonderman, Quicksilver, and Vision.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Some of the avengers aren't that powerful such as Wonderman, Quicksilver, and Vision.

Fair enough

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because of his powers and abilities.

What might those be. I don't know much about sentry. Last I heard he was a supes rip off, without many feats. His most impressive being stalemating wwh... So I am assuming he has had some major upgrades if you think he take out the flash.

^ His biggest upgrade thus far was him being able to defeat Molecule Man, though the circumstances were dubious at best.

Don't know the circumstances. I do know that he always was very similar to supes, which would mean nothing here.

He's essentially Superman-esque with apparent matter manipulation powers and some light based ones, though we don't know if that's under his own power or due to Voidness or anything else. The issue in question is fairly fresh, and as such, it's tricky to just assume that Sentry can wave his hand and destroy any being facing him.

Originally posted by snyper1982
What might those be. I don't know much about sentry. Last I heard he was a supes rip off, without many feats. His most impressive being stalemating wwh... So I am assuming he has had some major upgrades if you think he take out the flash. So you really don't have a clue about the Sentry. Gotcha.Originally posted by JakeTheBank
^ His biggest upgrade thus far was him being able to defeat Molecule Man, though the circumstances were dubious at best. What was dubious about them?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What was dubious about them?

The fact that he was able to exert more control over something that Molecule Man was essentially the undisputed master of. Taking into account that Sentry is purposefully such an enigmatic character and that we've yet to see the "truth" behind him and his powerset, I just think it's short sighted to take that one comic at face value and assume that Sentry > everyone else especially when in subsequent comics, he didn't overtly display same said power.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The fact that he was able to exert more control over something that Molecule Man was essentially the undisputed master of. Taking into account that Sentry is purposefully such an enigmatic character and that we've yet to see the "truth" behind him and his powerset, I just think it's short sighted to take that one comic at face value and assume that Sentry > everyone else especially when in subsequent comics, he didn't overtly display same said power. Because he has always been described as the most powerful character/near omnipotent, etc. I don't see him anywhere near this level but they have made it abundantly clear this guy's on another level from day one.

He won't stomp over everyone in comics because this will make for bad storytelling and kill any sort of drama. We did see his power trumped the Mm's on panel and I think next issue will find out more about the Sentry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you really don't have a clue about the Sentry. Gotcha. What was dubious about them?


I guess the question would be do I think the flash could put down sentry before he did some matter manip on the flash? I just don't know. I would be inclined to believe the flash is simply much much faster than what the sentry can react to. He puts supes speed to shame, and that is saying a lot. I honestly believe the flash is possibly powerful enough to solo. Both teams.... He is one of the most under rated characters of all time.

Team 2. Not too hard

Originally posted by snyper1982
I guess the question would be do I think the flash could put down sentry before he did some matter manip on the flash? I just don't know. I would be inclined to believe the flash is simply much much faster than what the sentry can react to. He puts supes speed to shame, and that is saying a lot. I honestly believe the flash is possibly powerful enough to solo. Both teams.... He is one of the most under rated characters of all time. Except in comics he's nowhere near as effective as you are making him out to be.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he has always been described as the most powerful character/near omnipotent, etc. I don't see him anywhere near this level but they have made it abundantly clear this guy's on another level from day one.

He won't stomp over everyone in comics because this will make for bad storytelling and kill any sort of drama. We did see his power trumped the Mm's on panel and I think next issue will find out more about the Sentry.

I remember this same type of thing going on with rulk. I will wait until some more is revealed about sentry before passing a final judgment.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Except in comics he's nowhere near as effective as you are making him out to be.

How could they make him interesting if he fought to the best of his abilities all the time? This isn't comics, it's a forum fight.

Originally posted by snyper1982
I remember this same type of thing going on with rulk. I will wait until some more is revealed about sentry before passing a final judgment. Rulk was just a badass under one writer while the Sentry has been described this by multiple writers, bios, etc.

I don't think he is unbeatable, but who knows at this point when we finally see what his powers are and limitations.

Who knows, they might make sentry a total bad ass like they are. I am more inclined to believe this is a temporary deal, and will be back at his supes like level before to long.

I'm going with team 1. Really the Sentry is a beast, sure Flash is mighty but the Sentry...

have to see more of the sentry before deciding...

Originally posted by snyper1982
Who knows, they might make sentry a total bad ass like they are. I am more inclined to believe this is a temporary deal, and will be back at his supes like level before to long. I don't think you can keep the Sentry at these levels without focusing on his mental weaknesses to make these comics interesting. Once a character becomes too powerful you can't write him into half of these scenarios in these team books.

Originally posted by -Pr-
have to see more of the sentry before deciding...

This pretty much sums it up for me.

I would really have to see how sentry does against some one like the flash, but marvel has no analogue... So we will never know.

Originally posted by snyper1982
I would really have to see how sentry does against some one like the flash, but marvel has no analogue... So we will never know. How would the flash beat him?

Team 2

Originally posted by snyper1982
I guess the question would be do I think the flash could put down sentry before he did some matter manip on the flash? I just don't know. I would be inclined to believe the flash is simply much much faster than what the sentry can react to. He puts supes speed to shame, and that is saying a lot. I honestly believe the flash is possibly powerful enough to solo. Both teams.... He is one of the most under rated characters of all time.
Sentry would just regenerate no matter what flash did.

nevermind sentry vs flash im supes would def go after sentry seeing someone similar capewar would begin

Originally posted by outavodka
nevermind sentry vs flash im supes would def go after sentry seeing someone similar capewar would begin Superman would be in for a surprise then.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Is there a specific reason why the JLA is down two members in comparison to the Avengers?

I assume it's because they have 3 top tier flying bricks plus a GL and a Flash, while the other side has 2 top tier flying bricks plus one non-flying one.


The JLA should handle this fairly handily IMO.

JLA

I don't care who is on the JLA, Thor and Sentry on the same team is just plain overkill!

Originally posted by BattleMage
I don't care who is on the JLA, Thor and Sentry on the same team is just plain overkill!

So Thor and Sentry together would be enough to take out the whole JLA roster or their biggest Guns?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So Thor and Sentry together would be enough to take out the whole JLA roster or their biggest Guns? If Sentry fought at his best and Thor did it wouldn't be that far off. You can't kill the Sentry at this point.

You don't have to kill him to win. All you need is a KO. Sentry is the wild card here, because we just don't know how powerful he is yet. I think everyone is pretty much in agreement that we need to see more of him before we can make a reasonable argument either way.

Also the flash pretty much nulifys the entire Avengers team with possibly the exception of the sentry.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So Thor and Sentry together would be enough to take out the whole JLA roster or their biggest Guns? Yes that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Originally posted by BattleMage
Yes that's the way the cookie crumbles. Wow do I ever want cookies now.

Originally posted by Blanket
Wow do I ever want cookies now.

Originally posted by snyper1982
You don't have to kill him to win. All you need is a KO. Sentry is the wild card here, because we just don't know how powerful he is yet. I think everyone is pretty much in agreement that we need to see more of him before we can make a reasonable argument either way.

Also the flash pretty much nulifys the entire Avengers team with possibly the exception of the sentry. Easier said than done. The Sentry also wanted to be put down by the Hulk. He knew he lost control.

The flash wouldn't have a chance against this team.

Avengers lose
That schizo Sentry is useless and the rest are just canon fodder

Originally posted by RedMage86
Avengers lose
That schizo Sentry is useless and the rest are just canon fodder How is he useless? he didn't seem useless to me against the MM.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How is he useless? he didn't seem useless to me against the MM. Using plot device power against a character that get retconned into oblivion

Originally posted by RedMage86
Using plot device power against a character that get retconned into oblivion It's his power. I don't see the problem. Lots of characters are plot devices and the Sentry happens to be one of them. The Sentry scares the shit out of his entire team because he's that friggin powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Representing the avengers are the Sentry, Thor, Ares, Iron Man, Captain America, Vision, Hercules, Wonder Man, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch.

vs.

Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman, Orion, Kyle Rayner, Flash(Barry Allen), Ray Palmer, and Zauriel.

Current vision? Is the most recent version of Scarlet WItch still a reality alterer??

Originally posted by RedMage86
Avengers lose
That schizo Sentry is useless and the rest are just canon fodder
Thor, hercules, vision, scarlet witch, iron man & wonderman are fodder???

Originally posted by khazra
Current vision? Is the most recent version of Scarlet WItch still a reality alterer?? All are at their best.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All are at their best.

So HoM Wanda, RKThor, Ion, etc? Or do you mean at their best as far as their "standard" showings go?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So HoM Wanda, RKThor, Ion, etc? Or do you mean at their best as far as their "standard" showings go? Standard powers at their best.