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Who wins?

And can the penace stare kill juggs?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
WHo wins?

And can the penace stare kill juggs? Juggernaut and NO nothing can kill an avatar....

Ghost Rider easily. Not a contest.

Stalemate. I'm pretty sure Cyttorak's enchantment protects juggernauts soul pretty well also. And nothing Juggernaut can really do to Rider so yea.

If Juggernaut doesn't have some uber soul defense (i wouldnt know) Then Ghost rider easily wins though

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ghost Rider easily. Not a contest. ...

Originally posted by jalek moye
If Juggernaut doesn't have some uber soul defense (i wouldnt know) Then Ghost rider easily wins though His Frigging soul is bonded to teh Gem, and the Gem is part of Cyttorak, if you think GR can phuck with cyttorak's soul......

Originally posted by jalek moye
Stalemate. I'm pretty sure Cyttorak's enchantment protects juggernauts soul pretty well also. And nothing Juggernaut can really do to Rider so yea.

If Juggernaut doesn't have some uber soul defense (i wouldnt know) Then Ghost rider easily wins though

Cain needs to breathe now. Remember Johnny's fight with Savage Hulk?

Originally posted by nicamarvin
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Ghost Rider became more powerful, Cain got severely depowered. There's only one outcome, GR wins.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cain needs to breathe now. Remember Johnny's fight with Savage Hulk?





Ghost rider did the exact same thing to him once


and oh yea hes depowered. Ghost rider def wins now

Its too late to edit OP.But this is supposed to be ivnincle one.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ghost Rider became more powerful, Cain got severely depowered. There's only one outcome, GR wins. the OP did not say current....anyways I always keep classic in mind....

ghost rider wins

Blaze or Ketch wins

Juggy wins via BFR.

Originally posted by KingD19
Juggy wins via BFR.

Tahaha.

Originally posted by nicamarvin
the OP did not say current....anyways I always keep classic in mind....

If OP doesn't specify the version, then it's current for both participants going by default rules.

edit: ah, Bada edited the title...

Originally posted by KingD19
Juggy wins via BFR.

Are you serious?

Blaze can make it back under his own power. He conjures up motorcycles out of nothing I can post a scan later if you want.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If OP doesn't specify the version, then it's current for both participants going by default rules. you know he cant beat classic.....

Originally posted by nicamarvin
you know he cant beat classic.....
and classic cant really beat him either. so iuess it will go till Blaze gets bored and decides to leave so a self inflicted loss.

Originally posted by jalek moye
and classic cant really beat him either. so iuess it will go till Blaze gets bored and decides to leave so a self inflicted loss. I am ok with that.....

Originally posted by nicamarvin
you know he cant beat classic.....

Hellfire is magic, but his blasts ain't powerful enough. They'd hurt Cain though (at least if his forcefield wasn't up).

He tried to BFR Green Scar and failed.

That leaves only one option, doesn't it? Penance Stare mmm

Doesn't the Penance Stare only work on people you've killed? Or is it people you've hurt?

And I'm pretty sure Cain's strength hasn't diminished, he just needs to breathe, build up more speed to be unstoppable, and can't regenerate.

He could knock GR pretty far with a good hit.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

That leaves only one option, doesn't it? Penance Stare mmm

Originally posted by nicamarvin
His Frigging soul is bonded to teh Gem, and the Gem is part of Cyttorak, if you think GR can phuck with cyttorak's soul......

Originally posted by KingD19
Doesn't the Penance Stare only work on people you've killed? Or is it people you've hurt?

And I'm pretty sure Cain's strength hasn't diminished, he just needs to breathe, build up more speed to be unstoppable, and can't regenerate.

He could knock GR pretty far with a good hit.

I thought it was intended that the loss of power was overall. I'm pretty sure that if he can't even regenerate, his strength would take a sizable dip. I guess time will tell.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hellfire is magic, but his blasts ain't powerful enough. They'd hurt Cain though (at least if his forcefield wasn't up).

He tried to BFR Green Scar and failed.

That leaves only one option, doesn't it? Penance Stare mmm

Ghost Rider tried to bfr Hulk? i dont remember that even so Blaze sucks when the angel doesnt help

Originally posted by KingD19
Doesn't the Penance Stare only work on people you've killed? Or is it people you've hurt?

And I'm pretty sure Cain's strength hasn't diminished, he just needs to breathe, build up more speed to be unstoppable, and can't regenerate.

He could knock GR pretty far with a good hit.



Unless he knocks him into orbit (I dunno if he can ride in space, but I really wouldn't be surprised ), GR can just come back.

Originally posted by nicamarvin


He did phuck with Galactus' soul biscuits

In FF TAS.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Ghost Rider tried to bfr Hulk? i dont remember that even so Blaze sucks when the angel doesnt help

When WWH tossed him up, Rider wrapped his chain around Hulk's neck. He got back on the motorcycle and tried to take him out of the city, but that didn't work.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I thought it was intended that the loss of power was overall. I'm pretty sure that if he can't even regenerate, his strength would take a sizable dip. I guess time will tell.

Well, the way they said it, you'd think if his power or durability were affected, they would have mentioned it.

People don't know Cain because he doesn't have to breathe, or because he can regenerate any damage he does happen to receive.

They know him because once he starts moving, you can't stop him.

They know him because he can stand up and bang with just about anybody.

They know him because literally nothing hurts him.

So I'm pretty sure if strength/durability took a plunge, Cage would've been like...the big bastard's nowhere near as strong as he used to be. Hell, I could probably lay a few on 'im.

Originally posted by KingD19
Doesn't the Penance Stare only work on people you've killed? Or is it people you've hurt?

And I'm pretty sure Cain's strength hasn't diminished, he just needs to breathe, build up more speed to be unstoppable, and can't regenerate.

He could knock GR pretty far with a good hit.

Cain has killed and hurt innocent people.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Cain has killed and hurt innocent people.

I know, I just started thinking about it.

Toppling that building.

Tossing that bus, etc...

Originally posted by KingD19
I know, I just started thinking about it.

Toppling that building.

Tossing that bus, etc...

Killing men, women and children for not worshiping Cyttorak.

I wasn't aware of that one. Got scans?

Was he being controlled by Cytorrak or the Exemplars at the time?

Originally posted by KingD19
I wasn't aware of that one. Got scans? it happened off panel and he did it on his own will....

bump

still rider

zarathos is a very powerful demon

alejandra with zarathos' power destroyed the mysterious 'adam'

blaze and ketch's power was enough to stop zadkiel