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No BFR.

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H2H Kingpin rips him apart. If NC wanted to get nasty he can TP Kingpin's head off, but since he never goes for the kill, he loses.

Yeah, as this isnt CBR, there's no blood lust shit to consider here.

Originally posted by riv6672
Yeah, as this isnt CBR, there's no blood lust shit to consider here.
Believe it or not, NC got nasty recently vs Sabretooth and TPed body parts off him (Sabes survived because of his ridiculous HF, something KP doesn't have). The reason I didn't bring this up is because I'm not sure if this is 616 NC or some alt reality version. Marvel is a mess right now so it's super confusing.

Well, for this thread, you dont need to worry.

No blood lust/teleporting body parts shit.

Originally posted by zopzop
Believe it or not, NC got nasty recently vs Sabretooth and TPed body parts off him (Sabes survived because of his ridiculous HF, something KP doesn't have). The reason I didn't bring this up is because I'm not sure if this is 616 NC or some alt reality version. Marvel is a mess right now so it's super confusing.

616 but he was inverted due to a spell turning heroes to villains. He could teleport swords and shit inside him. That NC stomps

I'd say Kingpin takes it, especially since you have NC fighting in character. All KP really needs is one solid hit, and he's skilled enough to pull it off.

One solid hit??

Nightcrawler is durable as ****.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I'd say Kingpin takes it, especially since you have NC fighting in character. All KP really needs is one solid hit, and he's skilled enough to pull it off.

Originally posted by krisblaze
One solid hit??

Nightcrawler is durable as ****.
This right here is what i was thinking (in character, hard as sone people seem to find that to understand ), and wondering about (how a surprisingly fast, obviously strong KP stacks up against an incredibly agile teleporter with sometimes underrated physical stats that is NC).

Originally posted by zopzop
Believe it or not, NC got nasty recently vs Sabretooth and TPed body parts off him (Sabes survived because of his ridiculous HF, something KP doesn't have). The reason I didn't bring this up is because I'm not sure if this is 616 NC or some alt reality version. Marvel is a mess right now so it's super confusing.

It was 616 Kurt after his resurrection, afaik. Creed still fended him off in the end.

Yeah, if he's brutal enough, NC can take Fisk...

Heh heh

NC teleoports him 30 feet into the air.

Originally posted by krisblaze
One solid hit??

Nightcrawler is durable as ****.

Pretty sure creed one shot him in Axis. A holding back Creed mind u

Pretty sure NC has 30 years of solid feats.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Pretty sure NC has 30 years of solid feats.

Durability feats? Doubtful. Plus he doesn't have the strength or stamina to hang with kingpin.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Pretty sure creed one shot him in Axis. A holding back Creed mind u

Creed also ko'd Classic Rogue before his 1st upgrade ever, what's your point?

NC does have great durability feats, see his fights with Ani-Men or Parker.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Durability feats? Doubtful. Plus he doesn't have the strength or stamina to hang with kingpin.

He has plenty.

He's taken hits from people with superstrength plenty of times, like Rogue or Captain Britain.

He's also one of the better swordsmen out there.

At any rate teleportation is extremely disorienting the first time you're exposed to it, so Fisk is screwed.

But I hit you hard enough to flatten a dozen men!

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Piledriver has fought Valkyrie and arguably knocked out Wonder Man (somewhat weakened from tanking lasers) in Venom: The Vault one-shot.

Originally posted by krisblaze
NC teleoports him 30 feet into the air.

Kingpin really has no defense to this.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Kingpin really has no defense to this.

Yes and no... classic KP *should* be able to tank it.

But NC can do much worse than that, see his tele-drop-combo against Omega Red

Or his draining of Sunspot.

Or his fight with Captain Britain.

Its nice (and odd) to see KP on the defensive in a thread.

Like seeing Sin get stomped

Originally posted by carver9
Like seeing Sin get stomped

I like women getting dominated, too

Hardcore gangbang, public humiliation, fantasy rape, those videos are always great to watch.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Creed also ko'd Classic Rogue before his 1st upgrade ever, what's your point?

NC does have great durability feats, see his fights with Ani-Men or Parker.

That's your go to argument? He cheap shot rogue so what exactly? Nightcrawler blitzed teleported cars, randomly ported knives/swords inside Sabes, took off his fingers and and creed whilst still holding back dropped him. My point is as soon as anyone gets serious Kurt gets wrecked. Yea he puts up a good fight but generally his pattern is mapped out.

Which Parker fight did he display great durability?


Originally posted by krisblaze
He has plenty.

He's taken hits from people with superstrength plenty of times, like Rogue or Captain Britain.

He's also one of the better swordsmen out there.

At any rate teleportation is extremely disorienting the first time you're exposed to it, so Fisk is screwed.

Britain is an outlier. I'll give u the disorientation of a teleblitz one though. Although imo Fisk won't get dropped from it

^^^Hmm. Thats a damn fine counter argument.


The longer the fight goes, the more likely it is KP drops NC.

If you''re saying he'd be willing to kill him via dropping him from high up in the air then why count out the teleporting the head off thing? Which has a much greater chance of success, killing is killing. There is every chance Kingpin could actually survive such a fall. So the only alternative is to allow yourself to get beaten to death. Which seems like a strange strategy, bloodlusted or not, but hey I'm no Nightcrawler expert.

Originally posted by Surtur
If you''re saying he'd be willing to kill him via dropping him from high up in the air then why count out the teleporting the head off thing? Which has a much greater chance of success, killing is killing. There is every chance Kingpin could actually survive such a fall. So the only alternative is to allow yourself to get beaten to death. Which seems like a strange strategy, bloodlusted or not, but hey I'm no Nightcrawler expert.

Dropping him is a realistic alternative since he can regulate the height. He doesnt have to kill him. He can just break his legs.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Dropping him is a realistic alternative since he can regulate the height. He doesnt have to kill him. He can just break his legs.

But then given Kingpins durability, how is he going to be able to judge the exact height necessary to drop him from that will break his legs, but not kill him?

Originally posted by Surtur
But then given Kingpins durability, how is he going to be able to judge the exact height necessary to drop him from that will break his legs, but not kill him?

He won't have to be exact about it.

Accidentally killing someone isn't that much of a concern.

^^^Sure it is. NC is a hero. Not an MB poster.

Go **** yourself ******

Whether kingpin will break his legs or end up with a serious fracture won't be much of a concern for NC.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Whether kingpin will break his legs or end up with a serious fracture won't be much of a concern for NC.
Thats not what you said:
Originally posted by krisblaze
Accidentally killing someone isn't that much of a concern.
If you cant handle your responses being used to respond to you, thats not my concern.
Also...
Originally posted by krisblaze
Go **** yourself ******

...go suck the large hairy cock that is your inability to debate coherently.

When did classic kp show up in this thread? If somehow KP was still in fighting shape, nc would just tele-dump him again and again.

Originally posted by Supermutant
When did classic kp show up in this thread? If somehow KP was still in fighting shape, nc would just tele-dump him again and again.

Classic/current kingpin is synonymous. Only thing that changed was the Parker beatdown which should've gotten retconned

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Classic/current kingpin is synonymous. Only thing that changed was the Parker beatdown which should've gotten retconned

but here Classic Kingpin is able to stomp Spidey & DD at the same time. But current KP gets stomp by either.

Originally posted by Supermutant
but here Classic Kingpin is able to stomp Spidey & DD at the same time. But current KP gets stomp by either.

Classic Kingpin only did good with Parker because Peter was afraid of killing a human so he always held back. Plus Fisk has insane damage soak and is strong af. Parker could ALWAYS best Fisk. Daredevil is a different story. They are more evenly matched. Then there's punisher who Fisk should always beat/stomp

Kingpin did good against Red Skull h2h

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Classic Kingpin only did good with Parker because Peter was afraid of killing a human so he always held back.

No. A retcon explanation in a damn handbook says so, but we know it's far from true --- Classic KP was just blatantly superhuman, even though he wasn't born a mutant and had no enhancements. Fisk from 90s TAS was pretty much the same, toppling Sentinel-sized robots, owning Spidey and Scorpion with his bearhug, breaking free from metal restraints, etc.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No. A retcon explanation in a damn handbook says so, but we know it's far from true --- Classic KP was just blatantly superhuman, even though he wasn't born a mutant and had no enhancements. Fisk from 90s TAS was pretty much the same, toppling Sentinel-sized robots, owning Spidey and Scorpion with his bearhug, breaking free from metal restraints, etc.

I know this. To me Fisk will always be above the likes of Cap/DD and slightly under Parker

So its settled then. Nightcrawler tele-drops Classic Kingpin onto current Kinpin from 60 feet high.

Poor Current KP haermm2

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I know this. To me Fisk will always be above the likes of Cap/DD and slightly under Parker
Thats about right.

Nightcrawler should win.

A comic could go either way though.

Originally posted by Smurph
Nightcrawler should win.

A comic could go either way though.

Remember his fight with jaeger?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Which Parker fight did he display great durability?

The one that had the Punisher guest-appearing in it. First appearance of Jigsaw.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The one that had the Punisher guest-appearing in it. First appearance of Jigsaw.

When Parker thought Kurt was a sniper or something like that

They had a misunderstanding, that's for sure. Later Punisher entered... and Jigsaw shortly after him.

Jigsaw's first appearance, i think.

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