Orion of the new Gods.

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lawest9
God's One of DC 's mightiest warriors, but how does his overall power level and strength size up against........

Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer
GL-Hal
Captain Atom
Firestorm
Sentry
Hulk
Carol Danvers
Gladiator
Martain Manhunter
Blue Marvel
Lobo
Hyperion..

carver9
Superman - Superman as of now is stronger due to his amp
Thor - weaker than Thor
Silver Surfer - equal to Surfer
GL-Hal - stronger than Hal
Captain Atom - stronger than Atom
Firestorm - stronger than FS
Sentry - weaker than Sentry
Hulk - far weaker than Hulk (cry lawest)
Carol Danvers - stronger than Carol
Gladiator - weaker than Gladiator
Martain Manhunter - stronger than MM
Blue Marvel - equal to BM
Lobo - stronger than Lobo
Hyperion - far weaker than Hyperion

Smurph
Originally posted by carver9
cry lawest Carver vs Lawest battlezone let's gooooooo

abhilegend
laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Superman - Superman as of now is stronger due to his amp
Thor - weaker than Thor
Silver Surfer - equal to Surfer
GL-Hal - stronger than Hal
Captain Atom - stronger than Atom
Firestorm - stronger than FS
Sentry - weaker than Sentry
Hulk - far weaker than Hulk (cry lawest)
Carol Danvers - stronger than Carol
Gladiator - weaker than Gladiator
Martain Manhunter - stronger than MM
Blue Marvel - equal to BM
Lobo - stronger than Lobo
Hyperion - far weaker than Hyperion
Name any of the Marvel characters who can shatter a solar system by the shockwaves of their fights. I know WBH can't.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Name any of the Marvel characters who can shatter a solar system by the shockwaves of their fights. I know WBH can't.

Is that even canon to Orion and even if it was, lol, Hulk have better fts like destroying a Universe for one. The same Universe you tried to downplay because they got to it through a door (Superman was able to travel to World Forger dimension through a door).

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Is that even canon to Orion and even if it was, lol, Hulk have better fts like destroying a Universe for one. The same Universe you tried to downplay because they got to it through a door (Superman was able to travel to World Forger dimension through a door).
Yes, do tell me those solar systems Hulk has destroyed.

Hulk is still only planetary carter.

lawest9
Originally posted by carver9
Superman - Superman as of now is stronger due to his amp
Thor - weaker than Thor
Silver Surfer - equal to Surfer
GL-Hal - stronger than Hal
Captain Atom - stronger than Atom
Firestorm - stronger than FS
Sentry - weaker than Sentry
Hulk - far weaker than Hulk (cry lawest)
Carol Danvers - stronger than Carol
Gladiator - weaker than Gladiator
Martain Manhunter - stronger than MM
Blue Marvel - equal to BM
Lobo - stronger than Lobo
Hyperion - far weaker than Hyperion You'll be crying Derrick. 😆😆😆

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, do tell me those solar systems Hulk has destroyed.

Hulk is still only planetary carter.

If Hulk is planetary, that would put Orion somewhere around building. He just do not have the fts. Plus, I already named a ft.

zopzop
I always saw Orion as a A- Tier character. Above Captain Marvel/Shazam/Black Adam but below Superman. He should wreck almost all the list (Superman excepted).

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
Above Captain Marvel/Shazam/Black Adam

no expression

carver9
Zop just say anything sometimes. Still love the guy.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
If Hulk is planetary, that would put Orion somewhere around building. He just do not have the fts. Plus, I already named a ft.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ask carver if Orion destroying a solar system by the shockwaves of his attacks means he vaporizes WBH.

https://i.imgur.com/1TueIF0.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKtC1sph/image.jpg
Hulk is nothing to Orion. Even the most vaunted WBH only destroyed a planet and the nearby moons were unaffected.

Originally posted by carver9
Also, WBH and Betty was in the sky and their shockwaves reached the planet and destroyed it and the moon. That ft is greater than wrecking a planet by touching it.

You yourself said it.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hulk is nothing to Orion. Even the most vaunted WBH only destroyed a planet and the nearby moons were unaffected.



You yourself said it.

Even if the ft is legit, it's nothing to some of Hulks best. His recent fight, he withstands the power of a 100 thousand exploding suns...

https://ibb.co/TYJcRnv

Power enough to completely annihilate a Celestial hand and he was getting stronger, more powerful. This piss on any ft an elite in DC has done in rebirth under their own power.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Even if the ft is legit, it's nothing to some of Hulks best. His recent fight, he withstands the power of a 100 thousand exploding suns...

https://ibb.co/TYJcRnv

Power enough to completely annihilate a Celestial hand and he was getting stronger, more powerful. This piss on any ft an elite in DC has done in rebirth under their own power.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hundred thousand suns wouldn't even destroy a portion of a single galaxy.

Good to know Kara casually oneshots every hulk carver.

carver9
Hulk ft is far more impressive since it actually destroyed something of relevance (a Celestial hand) while Hulk was getting more powerful, enduring it while at the same time getting his power sapped by Ironman. Let's not forget Hulk matching someone in strength in the same fight that over powered the energy from every realm in the Universe and destroyed the World tree.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Zop just say anything sometimes. Still love the guy.

Zop right now:

*unzips*

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk ft is far more impressive since it actually destroyed something of relevance (a Celestial hand) while Hulk was getting more powerful, enduring it while at the same time getting his power sapped by Ironman. Let's not forget Hulk matching someone in strength in the same fight that over powered the energy from every realm in the Universe and destroyed the World tree.
Nope, galaxies>>>>>hundred thousand suns.

Celestials armor only needs megaton level attack to breach lol.

Gamma thor was whooping Hulk's ass and ripped off his arm like nothing. Lol at matching strength.

DarkSaint85
Sinister has damaged Celestials..

abhilegend
So has Namor

DarkSaint85
I am also laughing at the idea Thor can be used as a reliable gauge. A famous YouTuber had this video out:
https://i.postimg.cc/PrmBMNKY/received-1343968133070965.webp

zopzop
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
no expression Originally posted by carver9
Zop just say anything sometimes. Still love the guy. Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Zop right now:

*unzips*
laughing
But seriously, even ignoring that Orion vs Giant fight that shattered a solar system, there was that Orion vs Darkseid fight. Those two instances alone are better than anything Captain Marvel/Black Adam have done in like the last 30 years.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, galaxies>>>>>hundred thousand suns.

Celestials armor only needs megaton level attack to breach lol.

Gamma thor was whooping Hulk's ass and ripped off his arm like nothing. Lol at matching strength.

It does, show me and in this specific comic, it required more than that. Uato even mentions Hulk and Thor fight threatening the Universe.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sinister has damaged Celestials..

Show me.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
So has Namor

Show me.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I am also laughing at the idea Thor can be used as a reliable gauge. A famous YouTuber had this video out:
https://i.postimg.cc/PrmBMNKY/received-1343968133070965.webp

Lol, Damborgson. He thinks Thor using part of his power can beat Hulk.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Show me.

https://i.postimg.cc/cJQdGcNH/RCO015-1.jpg

lawest9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sinister has damaged Celestials.. Thor and Sue Richards as well as Destroyer possessed Odin.

ODG
Originally posted by lawest9
God's One of DC 's mightiest warriors, but how does his overall power level and strength size up against........

Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer
GL-Hal
Captain Atom
Firestorm
Sentry
Hulk
Carol Danvers
Gladiator
Martain Manhunter
Blue Marvel
Lobo
Hyperion.. Orion should arguably be above everyone if we gave full faith and credit to the lip service afforded to the Astroforce.

But I mean... I don't know whether Astroforce feats even stack up to Mjolnir's top feats, let alone the Odinforce.

lawest9
Originally posted by ODG
Orion should arguably be above everyone if we gave full faith and credit to the lip service afforded to the Astroforce.

But I mean... I don't know whether Astroforce feats even stack up to Mjolnir's top feats, let alone the Odinforce. Or the Power Cosmic.

ODG
Originally posted by lawest9
Or the Power Cosmic. Or Firestorm Matrix, or the GL spectrum, or the Quantum Field, or the Green Door, yeah... I get it.

It's just the Astroforce always seemed more primordial and unique than all those given that its origins lie within DC's ultimate power of the Source? And are there other wielders of the Astroforce? IIRC, no.

Bah, whatever.

lawest9
Originally posted by ODG
Orion should arguably be above everyone if we gave full faith and credit to the lip service afforded to the Astroforce.

But I mean... I don't know whether Astroforce feats even stack up to Mjolnir's top feats, let alone the Odinforce. Don't know what's Mjolnir's top feat is right now be it damaging a high ranking Celestial's armor ( in which the hammer shattered to pieces ) or knocking out the Phoenix force, but if we're doing lip service here than Orion said the Astro Force can shatter worlds.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A famous YouTuber

Leave Damborg alone laughing out loud

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Lol, Damborgson. He thinks Thor using part of his power can beat Hulk.

Actually, Dambo has admitted the fight was inconclusive and how the whole arc was nothing but false advertising.

This is how you repay your benefactor? By spreading lies & half-truths? sad

ODG
Originally posted by lawest9
Don't know what's Mjolnir's top feat is right now be it damaging a high ranking Celestial's armor ( in which the hammer shattered to pieces ) or knocking out the Phoenix force, but if we're doing lip service here than Orion said the Astro Force can shatter worlds. Mjolnir blows collaterally destroyed planets during the Gorr arc. 2 Mjolnirs absorbed the Godbomb that exploded across the entire timestream simultaneously and was killing all Marvel Gods. 2 Mjolnirs summoned the lightning that forged the cosmos and one-shotted Odinforce Nornstone-amped Ultron. Mjolnir contained a 1/5th universe destroying Life Bomb. Mjolnir supported 1/4th the sagging Marvel Multiversal structure.

And I didn't even include any godblasts because technically... those are empowered by Thor's own godly energies and amplified over and over again by Mjolnir.

Mjolnir feats are nuts.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
It does, show me and in this specific comic, it required more than that. Uato even mentions Hulk and Thor fight threatening the Universe.
https://i.postimg.cc/HJz5271w/6520564-4129416519-65205.jpg

Where did it say it needs more to do that?

Also Namor ripped Celestial armor apart.

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-976020ca3d90b272a456e07d97a84677-lq

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
https://i.postimg.cc/HJz5271w/6520564-4129416519-65205.jpg

Where did it say it needs more to do that?

Also Namor ripped Celestial armor apart.

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-976020ca3d90b272a456e07d97a84677-lq

I asked you to show me it happening, not statements.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://i.postimg.cc/cJQdGcNH/RCO015-1.jpg

Plot.

carver9
Originally posted by lawest9
Thor and Sue Richards as well as Destroyer possessed Odin.

Thor was using the belt of strength and Sue powers are a weakness to the Celestials.

lawest9
Originally posted by carver9
Thor was using the belt of strength and Sue powers are a weakness to the Celestials. But........they still accomplished it, Thor did it with a massive Godblast.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Plot.

So it happened, thanks.

Hulk damaging it is also plot.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
I asked you to show me it happening, not statements.
Show me those hundred thousand suns, not statements.

DarkSaint85
I love how he ignored Namor ripping it. He obviously didn't even click on your link, lazy boy.

abhilegend
That's also a statement, duh

DarkSaint85
This statement argument is interesting.

Diesldude
Originally posted by ODG
Orion should arguably be above everyone if we gave full faith and credit to the lip service afforded to the Astroforce.

But I mean... I don't know whether Astroforce feats even stack up to Mjolnir's top feats, let alone the Odinforce.

I have no idea where the astro force stands, but the Old Gods all wanted to be the one to obtain the Omega Effect.

ODG
Originally posted by Diesldude
I have no idea where the astro force stands, but the Old Gods all wanted to be the one to obtain the Omega Effect. Yeah, but... people want to obtain complete control the Firestorm Matrix, or the GL spectrum, or the Quantum Field, or the Green Door... not exactly something that helps to distinguish power sources.

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