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demigawd
Alan Scott - the Sentinel takes on some heavy hitters. How does he do?

As in all Demigawd threads - one milisecond prep time to both sides

1. Juggernaut
2. Thor
3. GL Kyle
4. Sinestro
5. GL Hal
6. Superman
7. Dr. Strange
8. Dr. Fate
9. Zatanna
10. Silver Surfer

thesilverspider
He clears it with ease.............

golem370
Is that classic Juggernaut?

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
Is that classic Juggernaut?
It doesn't matter what juggernaunt it is sentinel wrecks him.

golem370
How?

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
How?
How ever he wants.......... smile

golem370
Unless he got some trick to get past Juggernauts Force Field I would call it a stalemate

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by golem370
How?

He Speed Blitzz's all of them at the speed of time !!!!!!!!!


smile

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
Unless he got some trick to get past Juggernauts Force Field I would call it a stalemate
Sentinel is above Cytorrak it's self so Juggs goes down hard.
and yes SPEED BLITZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

golem370
I doubt it.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
I doubt it.
Well you shouldn't sentinel is above Skyfather level.Trust me juggs goes down hard.

golem370
Not against Marvel's Skyfathers till he beats somebody like Marvels Odin I still say stalemate

golem370

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
Not against Marvel's Skyfathers till he beats somebody like Marvels Odin I still say stalemate
The guy was holding his own against ION who's above even Galactus so how you figure he isn't above marvel's skyfathers.

golem370
Because you can't prove that that Ion is above Galactus so until you do I say it is still a stalemate

golem370
If Ion died would the DC Universe be destroyed I would think not. Galactus is a piece of the Universe just like Death,Eternity,Infinity,LT,Celestials and others to they make up Marvel Universe.

golem370
Normal human with Green Lantern Ring enhanced abilities granting the wielder the ability to create forms and devices of green energy from their imagination, transmute materials, phase through solid objects, become invisible, fly at supersonic speeds; achieve superhuman strength, speed, stamina, durability, immunity to harsh environments and an ability to communicate with all known sentient species.
Extremely imaginative person with training as an artist.



Note: The imprisonment within the Main Power Battery of Parallax - a yellow being composed of pure fear - created an impurity making Green Lantern Rings incapable of manipulating objects colored yellow, and the champions of the Guardians of the Universe, the Green Lanterns, susceptible to the only thing that could break their will - fear.

Due to the release of Parallax from the Main Power Battery, Kyle Rainer's ring has no such impurity and is not vulnerable to the color yellow.

The Power Ring is limited to a finite charge and must be recharged in the Power Battery when depleted.


vs

Galactus's powers-Though he wields the immeasurable Power Cosmic (indeed, Galactus is so powerful that he must always wear his costume in order to contain his vast energies; were he ever to remove it, the energy thus released would destroy Galactus and turn him into a star), Galactus must feed off the energy of planets, without which he cannot survive. Towards this end, Galactus scours the universe seeking planets to sustain himself.

Over millions of years he has become one of the most feared beings in the universe, his vast power allowing him to lay waste to innumerable extra-terrestrial civilizations in his quest for sustenance.


Cover to Silver Surfer: Parable. Art by Jean Giraud, under the pseudonym "Moebius."Nevertheless, he is not an evil being, but rather a force of nature whose feedings are necessary for survival. It is also said that Galactus plays a necessary role in the continuum of the Universe bringing randomness, which in turn balances with order, and if he were ever destroyed another being would have to take his place in this task.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
If Ion died would the DC Universe be destroyed I would think not. Galactus is a piece of the Universe just like Death,Eternity,Infinity,LT,Celestials and others to they make up Marvel Universe.
What you talking about just shut up you have no idea what you're talking about for one the Celestials are not essential to the universe.
ION is just as powerful if not more powerful then parallax who would destroy Galactus.

golem370
BS Celestials where made by Eternity to gather info so yes they are essential. You have no facts to back that up so stop talking out of your a$$

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
BS Celestials where made by Eternity to gather info so yes they are essential. You have no facts to back that up so stop talking out of your a$$
You're hilarious and where are your facts ??

You're a moron and everyone knows it all you do is post bios of characters and you think you know your stuff........laughing out loud

Don't you got more threads to make.........

And for the last time Marvel does not always win........ laughing

golem370
I don't have to prove anything your the only claiming something so it's your place to prove it.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
I don't have to prove anything your the only claiming something so it's your place to prove it.
laughing You're dismissed go make more threads...........

golem370
Alright but you still didn't prove your ignorant side so I guess I wins this battle of wits. laughing

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by thesilverspider
You're hilarious and where are your facts ??

You're a moron and everyone knows it all you do is post bios of characters and you think you know your stuff........laughing out loud

Don't you got more threads to make.........

And for the last time Marvel does not always win........ laughing

I think Smeagle has a point .... here s some more bio smile


Real Name: Galan
Occupation: Planet Destroyer
Identity: Known throughout the universe, including Earth
Legal Status: None
Former Name: Galan
Place of Birth: Planet Taa
Marital Status: (as Galan) Unknown, (as Galactus) None
Known Relatives: None, although Galactus has spoken figuratively of Eternity and Death as his relations
Group Affiliation: None
Base of Operations: Mobile, via his worldship, throughout the known universe
First Appearance: FANTASTIC FOUR #48

History: Galactus is the sole survivor of the universe that existed prior to the creation of the current universe. Originally Galactus was a humanoid named Galan, who was born on the planet Taa, a paradise-like world whose civilization is said to have been the most advanced of any of the known universe of that time.

However, this universe was in its final stages of collapse. Originally, this universe had been a "Cosmic Egg," a primal sphere of disorganized, dense, compact primordial matter. The sphere underwent a "Big Bang," an explosion that hurled the matter outwards, where much of it eventually condensed into stars and planets. This universe expanded in size for billions of years, and then contracted over the following billions of years. All of the matter of that universe was plunging towards a central point, where it was collapsing into a new "Cosmic Egg."

Taa's civilization was one of the last still in existence. Lethal radiation caused by the death of this universe was wiping out life on nearby planets. Galan, a space explorer, was dispatched to travel through the cosmos to find a means of saving Taa, but he found none. The radiation then killed off all but a tiny fraction of the population of Taa. Knowing their deaths were inevitable, Galan proposed to the remaining survivors that they die gloriously by traveling in a starship straight into the "Cosmic Egg." As the starship approached its destination, radiation killed all the passengers except Galan, who strangely found himself filled with new energy.

The sentience of the dying universe, contained within the "Cosmic Egg," prevented Galen and his starship from being destroyed by the "Egg's" tremendous gravitational forces and heat. (Presumably, this was a previous incarnation of Eternity, the embodiment of the life forces of the current universe.) The dying universe's sentience contacted Galan, telling him that they both would die, but that both would be reborn, and that Galan would thus become Galactus, ravager of worlds. The "Cosmic Egg" absorbed Galan into itself.

There is no way of determining how much time passed between the death of that universe and the creation of the current one. But finally the "Cosmic Egg" underwent another "Big Bang," thus creating the current universe. Eternity and Death, the ethereal embodiments of the new universe, were created in this "Big Bang," and the being that had been Galan was simultaneously hurled outward in his recreated starship. (It is because all three were created simultaneously that Galactus refers to Eternity and Death as his siblings.)

The nascent Galactus drifted in his starship for eons as life began to come into existence in the universe, including the races that would give rise to the Elders of the Universe. Eventually the nascent Galactus's starship was sighted by one of the Watchers, an ancient race of beings who had undertaken to observe the events of the universe. This Watcher, who was not Uatu, the Watcher who observes Earth, drew the starship down to his planet to study it. There he learned that the being within it had vast, growing power, and would eventually have to consume worlds to satiate his hunger for energy. Realizing the danger the nascent Galactus posed to the cosmos, this Watcher considered destroying the being before he harnessed his full power, but instead decided to abide by the Watchers' oath of non-interference, and let the nascent Galactus depart in his starship.

The nascent Galactus learned how to use his vast power, and created a suit of armor to help him regulate it. He then transformed the starship into a kind of incubation chamber, where Galactus spent centuries evolving into his current form. Finally, the incubation ship drifted into orbit around the inhabited planet Archeopia. The Archeopians themselves did not disturb the strange ship, but years later a marauding space fleet, nearing Archeopia and thinking Galactus's ship to be a weapon, attacked it. Galactus, his incubation finished, emerged, destroyed the fleet, and then, hungering for energy, consumed the biospheric energy of Archeopia. A small fleet of Archeopian ships managed to escape, but all life on the planet was destroyed. (The Archeopian race would later be fully exterminated by the living planet Ego).

Over the following millennia Galactus built himself an immense starbase, the world-ship he calls Taa II, which engulfs the Archeopian solar system. Galactus also sought out planets rich in certain unknown energies that he consumed to sustain his life. During these many millennia Galactus consumed only planets uninhabited by sentient lifeforms, except for Archeopia, and many centuries passed between his "feedings.''

However, as ages passed, the intervals between feedings decreased considerably in length, and Galactus found himself needing to consume worlds inhabited by sentient races if he could find no other worlds possessing the energy he needs in time to sustain himself. Galactus has succeeded in suppressing his sympathy for intelligent beings like himself when he was Galan, and, believing himself to be a higher kind of being than they, is willing to destroy their lives to continue his own. Moreover, he is aware that he was created to fulfill an as yet unrevealed purpose that he believes will ultimately compensate the universe for all the destruction he wreaks.

radiate forever outward, so he could never again reform.

thesilverspider
Sentinel clears the gauntlet just shut up.You're comic knowledge comes from bios alone ......... wink

golem370
Who are you calling smeagle

thesilverspider
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I think Smeagle has a point .... here s some more bio smile


Real Name: Galan
Occupation: Planet Destroyer
Identity: Known throughout the universe, including Earth
Legal Status: None
Former Name: Galan
Place of Birth: Planet Taa
Marital Status: (as Galan) Unknown, (as Galactus) None
Known Relatives: None, although Galactus has spoken figuratively of Eternity and Death as his relations
Group Affiliation: None
Base of Operations: Mobile, via his worldship, throughout the known universe
First Appearance: FANTASTIC FOUR #48

History: Galactus is the sole survivor of the universe that existed prior to the creation of the current universe. Originally Galactus was a humanoid named Galan, who was born on the planet Taa, a paradise-like world whose civilization is said to have been the most advanced of any of the known universe of that time.

However, this universe was in its final stages of collapse. Originally, this universe had been a "Cosmic Egg," a primal sphere of disorganized, dense, compact primordial matter. The sphere underwent a "Big Bang," an explosion that hurled the matter outwards, where much of it eventually condensed into stars and planets. This universe expanded in size for billions of years, and then contracted over the following billions of years. All of the matter of that universe was plunging towards a central point, where it was collapsing into a new "Cosmic Egg."

Taa's civilization was one of the last still in existence. Lethal radiation caused by the death of this universe was wiping out life on nearby planets. Galan, a space explorer, was dispatched to travel through the cosmos to find a means of saving Taa, but he found none. The radiation then killed off all but a tiny fraction of the population of Taa. Knowing their deaths were inevitable, Galan proposed to the remaining survivors that they die gloriously by traveling in a starship straight into the "Cosmic Egg." As the starship approached its destination, radiation killed all the passengers except Galan, who strangely found himself filled with new energy.

The sentience of the dying universe, contained within the "Cosmic Egg," prevented Galen and his starship from being destroyed by the "Egg's" tremendous gravitational forces and heat. (Presumably, this was a previous incarnation of Eternity, the embodiment of the life forces of the current universe.) The dying universe's sentience contacted Galan, telling him that they both would die, but that both would be reborn, and that Galan would thus become Galactus, ravager of worlds. The "Cosmic Egg" absorbed Galan into itself.

There is no way of determining how much time passed between the death of that universe and the creation of the current one. But finally the "Cosmic Egg" underwent another "Big Bang," thus creating the current universe. Eternity and Death, the ethereal embodiments of the new universe, were created in this "Big Bang," and the being that had been Galan was simultaneously hurled outward in his recreated starship. (It is because all three were created simultaneously that Galactus refers to Eternity and Death as his siblings.)

The nascent Galactus drifted in his starship for eons as life began to come into existence in the universe, including the races that would give rise to the Elders of the Universe. Eventually the nascent Galactus's starship was sighted by one of the Watchers, an ancient race of beings who had undertaken to observe the events of the universe. This Watcher, who was not Uatu, the Watcher who observes Earth, drew the starship down to his planet to study it. There he learned that the being within it had vast, growing power, and would eventually have to consume worlds to satiate his hunger for energy. Realizing the danger the nascent Galactus posed to the cosmos, this Watcher considered destroying the being before he harnessed his full power, but instead decided to abide by the Watchers' oath of non-interference, and let the nascent Galactus depart in his starship.

The nascent Galactus learned how to use his vast power, and created a suit of armor to help him regulate it. He then transformed the starship into a kind of incubation chamber, where Galactus spent centuries evolving into his current form. Finally, the incubation ship drifted into orbit around the inhabited planet Archeopia. The Archeopians themselves did not disturb the strange ship, but years later a marauding space fleet, nearing Archeopia and thinking Galactus's ship to be a weapon, attacked it. Galactus, his incubation finished, emerged, destroyed the fleet, and then, hungering for energy, consumed the biospheric energy of Archeopia. A small fleet of Archeopian ships managed to escape, but all life on the planet was destroyed. (The Archeopian race would later be fully exterminated by the living planet Ego).

Over the following millennia Galactus built himself an immense starbase, the world-ship he calls Taa II, which engulfs the Archeopian solar system. Galactus also sought out planets rich in certain unknown energies that he consumed to sustain his life. During these many millennia Galactus consumed only planets uninhabited by sentient lifeforms, except for Archeopia, and many centuries passed between his "feedings.''

However, as ages passed, the intervals between feedings decreased considerably in length, and Galactus found himself needing to consume worlds inhabited by sentient races if he could find no other worlds possessing the energy he needs in time to sustain himself. Galactus has succeeded in suppressing his sympathy for intelligent beings like himself when he was Galan, and, believing himself to be a higher kind of being than they, is willing to destroy their lives to continue his own. Moreover, he is aware that he was created to fulfill an as yet unrevealed purpose that he believes will ultimately compensate the universe for all the destruction he wreaks.

radiate forever outward, so he could never again reform.
Oh god another bio ................... sick

golem370
And yours come from your small intellect

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by golem370
Alright but you still didn't prove your ignorant side so I guess I wins this battle of wits. laughing

smile

Celestials


The Celestials are a star-faring race of humanoid aliens who possess untold cosmic power. Standing two thousand feet tall, the Celestials are clad in full body armor. No Earth being has ever seen what they look like beneath their armor or knows their origin.
What is known is that they have visited the Earth at four different periods in the Earth's past, each time altering the course of history. The first Celestial Host came to Earth approximately one million years ago to perform genetic tests and experimentation on Earth's highest lifeform, the nascent human being. Testing the versatility of human genes, the First Host created two sub-species of humanity, the Eternals and the Deviants. Their sole legacy to the mainstream human race was the implantation of a dormant DNA complex which would one day permit benevolent mutations.

The Second Celestial Host came to Earth approximately twenty-five thousand years ago to inspect the results of their first visit. Finding the direction of Deviants technology counter-productive, the Celestials destroyed the Deviants' major stronghold, Lemuria. Repercussions of that destruction caused tectonic plate shifting that eventually contributed to the sinking of the continent of Atlantis.

The Third Celestial Host arrived on Earth one thousand years ago to inspect the progress of the human race. Their landing site was arranged by the Eternals working in conjunction with the Incas of Peru. The Third Host was met by a contingent of Earth's mythological gods, including Odin of the Asgardians and Zeus of the Olympians, who challenged the Celestials' right to interfere in Earth's affairs. The outcome of that encounter was that all of the major races of gods swore to forego their active involvement in the destiny of mankind.

The Fourth Celestial Host arrived in recent years in

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
And yours come from your small intellect
And you're still here because............. confused

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by golem370
Who are you calling smeagle


UUUUUUUU, PRESCIOUSSISSSSS ONE !!!!!!!!!!!

SmEAGLE WANTS THE BIO ....

Celestials


The Celestials are a star-faring race of humanoid aliens who possess untold cosmic power. Standing two thousand feet tall, the Celestials are clad in full body armor. No Earth being has ever seen what they look like beneath their armor or knows their origin.
What is known is that they have visited the Earth at four different periods in the Earth's past, each time altering the course of history. The first Celestial Host came to Earth approximately one million years ago to perform genetic tests and experimentation on Earth's highest lifeform, the nascent human being. Testing the versatility of human genes, the First Host created two sub-species of humanity, the Eternals and the Deviants. Their sole legacy to the mainstream human race was the implantation of a dormant DNA complex which would one day permit benevolent mutations.

The Second Celestial Host came to Earth approximately twenty-five thousand years ago to inspect the results of their first visit. Finding the direction of Deviants technology counter-productive, the Celestials destroyed the Deviants' major stronghold, Lemuria. Repercussions of that destruction caused tectonic plate shifting that eventually contributed to the sinking of the continent of Atlantis.

The Third Celestial Host arrived on Earth one thousand years ago to inspect the progress of the human race. Their landing site was arranged by the Eternals working in conjunction with the Incas of Peru. The Third Host was met by a contingent of Earth's mythological gods, including Odin of the Asgardians and Zeus of the Olympians, who challenged the Celestials' right to interfere in Earth's affairs. The outcome of that encounter was that all of the major races of gods swore to forego their active involvement in the destiny of mankind.

The Fourth Celestial Host arrived in recent years in


smile

thesilverspider
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
UUUUUUUU, PRESCIOUSSISSSSS ONE !!!!!!!!!!!

SmEAGLE WANTS THE BIO ....

Celestials


The Celestials are a star-faring race of humanoid aliens who possess untold cosmic power. Standing two thousand feet tall, the Celestials are clad in full body armor. No Earth being has ever seen what they look like beneath their armor or knows their origin.
What is known is that they have visited the Earth at four different periods in the Earth's past, each time altering the course of history. The first Celestial Host came to Earth approximately one million years ago to perform genetic tests and experimentation on Earth's highest lifeform, the nascent human being. Testing the versatility of human genes, the First Host created two sub-species of humanity, the Eternals and the Deviants. Their sole legacy to the mainstream human race was the implantation of a dormant DNA complex which would one day permit benevolent mutations.

The Second Celestial Host came to Earth approximately twenty-five thousand years ago to inspect the results of their first visit. Finding the direction of Deviants technology counter-productive, the Celestials destroyed the Deviants' major stronghold, Lemuria. Repercussions of that destruction caused tectonic plate shifting that eventually contributed to the sinking of the continent of Atlantis.

The Third Celestial Host arrived on Earth one thousand years ago to inspect the progress of the human race. Their landing site was arranged by the Eternals working in conjunction with the Incas of Peru. The Third Host was met by a contingent of Earth's mythological gods, including Odin of the Asgardians and Zeus of the Olympians, who challenged the Celestials' right to interfere in Earth's affairs. The outcome of that encounter was that all of the major races of gods swore to forego their active involvement in the destiny of mankind.

The Fourth Celestial Host arrived in recent years in


smile

Yes it's true you're no one's sidekick..... laughing out loud

golem370
Please don't put me in the same intellect class as Smeagle & The Silver Spider please

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by golem370
Please don't put me in the same intellect class as Smeagle & The Silver Spider please

Yessssssss MASTER ..... we thinks the spider hobistsisssss, is in a much different intellect classss's .... wink

thesilverspider
Originally posted by golem370
Please don't put me in the same intellect class as Smeagle & The Silver Spider please
Don't you got a record to break or have you already done it.

Please you single handedly fuc'ked the VS forum up with your loads of crappy threads............ sad

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by thesilverspider
Don't you got a record to break or have you already done it.

Please you single handedly fuc'ked the VS forum up with your loads of crappy threads............ sad

No, thats unfair .... You've got to give the WHORE LOCK some credit as well smile

thesilverspider
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
No, thats unfair .... You've got to give the WHORE LOCK some credit as well smile
Yea you're right and most of them are DC spite threads............no

DigiMark007
Originally posted by demigawd
Alan Scott - the Sentinel takes on some heavy hitters. How does he do?

As in all Demigawd threads - one milisecond prep time to both sides

1. Juggernaut
2. Thor
3. GL Kyle
4. Sinestro
5. GL Hal
6. Superman
7. Dr. Strange
8. Dr. Fate
9. Zatanna
10. Silver Surfer

Juggs isn't fast enough. Even if Alan can't kill him, he could put him in the center of a sun or something and thus win via ing-out.

Thor would be interesting, and with a lot of people it comes down o whether or not they could absorb the ring's energy (Mjolnir might be able to do this). Otherwise Alan wins. His next real test is Hal. As much as I like Alan better, I reall think Hal would put him down. Hal is the "official Best GL Ever" by DC standards...Alan merely flirts with the GL name enough to be in the same category, but DC has never fully done this battle (to my knowledge).

I say he loses to Hal, but he'd put down Supes. Superman himself has admitted Hal possesses more power than he does, and Alan is considered (and repeatedly stated) to be the JSA's "big gun" which would include, presumably, Dr. Fate.

Being magical, he could mount a good defense against the magicusers. I say he'd lose more often than not to Hal and Strange, but would win the others most of the time.

-DM

DigiMark007
Oh , and keep the bashing down guys...seriously. I won't issue formal warning unless I need to, but this thread isn't far from being closed because of it.

golem370
Believe it or not I don't care I like some DC Characters. Yes when you make a comment without proof be prepared to back it up. Ion or Parallax have nothing to prove there more powerful the Galactus just like people saying Galactus could beat Celestials at least they have come up with some weak Alternate Universe where Galactus devourers the Dreaming Celestial which is silly.

golem370
I didn't say Juggs would win I said nether one of them could stop the other.

DigiMark007
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Juggs isn't fast enough. Even if Alan can't kill him, he could put him in the center of a sun or something and thus win via ing-out.

Thor would be interesting, and with a lot of people it comes down o whether or not they could absorb the ring's energy (Mjolnir might be able to do this). Otherwise Alan wins. His next real test is Hal. As much as I like Alan better, I reall think Hal would put him down. Hal is the "official Best GL Ever" by DC standards...Alan merely flirts with the GL name enough to be in the same category, but DC has never fully done this battle (to my knowledge).

I say he loses to Hal, but he'd put down Supes. Superman himself has admitted Hal possesses more power than he does, and Alan is considered (and repeatedly stated) to be the JSA's "big gun" which would include, presumably, Dr. Fate.

Being magical, he could mount a good defense against the magicusers. I say he'd lose more often than not to Hal and Strange, but would win the others most of the time.

-DM

I fell like bumping this to page 3 since I'm so smart my responses deserve to be read by everyone. stick out tongue

leonidas
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I think Smeagle has a point .... here s some more bio smile

smeagle? no expression

































laughing laughing laughing laughing
confused

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Oh , and keep the bashing down guys...seriously. I won't issue formal warning unless I need to, but this thread isn't far from being closed because of it.

Ohhhh my god i've been here ages and i havn't even got a formal warning yet !!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like such a virgin !!!!!!!! smile

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by leonidas
smeagle? no expression

































laughing laughing laughing laughing
confused

Have you seen Lord of the Rings Leo ?

leonidas
yep. GREAT flick.

DigiMark007
miffed

leonidas
embarrasment

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by DigiMark007
miffed

Moderate GODAMMMMMMMMMM UUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!!!!!! smile

The Ion
Yeah so anyways, he clears the gauntlet without much trouble.

DigiMark007
^^ Interesting. Why Hal, though? With any sort of evidence, I'd love to agree...but I've simply seen more impressive feats from Hal than Alan in my GL reading.

demigawd
And here I was, so happy that I got three pages worth of responses to quickly....

and then I read it.

sad

The Ion
You could make an argument for a GL beating almost anyway because how do you measure such things as will and imagination? In this case I think it's just a difference of raw power. Alan Scott as Sentinel has the full power of the Starheart which is all chaotic magical energy in the universe. The Guardians described it as absolute power which is why they sought to imprison it and plus it seemed much less dependent on willpower since it was internal power.

R.O.T. Yahman
Originally posted by demigawd
And here I was, so happy that I got three pages worth of responses to quickly....

and then I read it.

sad


A lot better than usual IMO ..... stick out tongue

demigawd
So the full power of the Starheart vs. the Oan energy contained in a ring.

Which is greater?

demigawd
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
A lot better than usual IMO ..... stick out tongue

They're too cerebral for most. But usually fanboy-proof....so it evens out in the end.

The Ion
Originally posted by demigawd
So the full power of the Starheart vs. the Oan energy contained in a ring.

Which is greater?
This goes back to what I was saying earlier about the power levels being vague. Starheart was said to be unlimited in its power and Green Lantern's are as strong as their willpower makes them but that's impossible to measure. Typically Sentinel is much more powerful off the bat though.

leonheartmm
no way in hell hes beatin strange{marvel}
.

long pig
Originally posted by leonheartmm
no way in hell hes beatin strange{marvel}
.
I'd say they are in the same class of power. I made a AS v DS thread before, dunno how far it got.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by The Ion
You could make an argument for a GL beating almost anyway because how do you measure such things as will and imagination? In this case I think it's just a difference of raw power. Alan Scott as Sentinel has the full power of the Starheart which is all chaotic magical energy in the universe. The Guardians described it as absolute power which is why they sought to imprison it and plus it seemed much less dependent on willpower since it was internal power.
See someone understands Sentinel's power he's not just regular Green lantern Alan.

Juntai
Sentinal was just willpower and the Starheart, described earlier. That's his entire being.
The only reason he had a form was because he willed it to be so.

DigiMark007
Originally posted by The Ion
You could make an argument for a GL beating almost anyway because how do you measure such things as will and imagination? In this case I think it's just a difference of raw power. Alan Scott as Sentinel has the full power of the Starheart which is all chaotic magical energy in the universe. The Guardians described it as absolute power which is why they sought to imprison it and plus it seemed much less dependent on willpower since it was internal power.

This is freaking awesome! I was unaware of some of it (I knew about the Starheart, but not the chaotic magical energy thing). Woot! Go Alan.

Juntai
Originally posted by DigiMark007
This is freaking awesome! I was unaware of some of it (I knew about the Starheart, but not the chaotic magical energy thing). Woot! Go Alan. That's how the Starheart was created, the Guardians trying to rid the universe of all chaotic energy. Sentinal is the embodiment of this energy. A direct funnel.

Sixth_Winged
Alan Scott cuts loose. Poor loose dance

DigiMark007
^^ Har!

Alan really DOES need to cut loose, and lose the "wise mentor" role in the JSA. He could mess up some serious sh*t.

Juntai
Originally posted by DigiMark007
^^ Har!

Alan really DOES need to cut loose, and lose the "wise mentor" role in the JSA. He could mess up some serious sh*t. He's not as powerful since turning the Starheart into an 'infinite' ring, kinda like ION did with some of his power. Permanent charge, deally. And retook the name GL. But still without the raw power he had as Sentinal.

demigawd
So can he beat Dr. Strange? What do the Sentinel experts say?

thesilverspider
Originally posted by demigawd
So can he beat Dr. Strange? What do the Sentinel experts say?
Easily at that.......... wink

DigiMark007
Wow. Even, say, Galactus can't beat Strange EASILY....so I think that's a bit of an overstatement....regardless of the OA Vs. Galen debate that happened earlier.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Wow. Even, say, Galactus can't beat Strange EASILY....so I think that's a bit of an overstatement....regardless of the OA Vs. Galen debate that happened earlier.
Well for one Galactus is always very weak when he's against Strange and he has his troubles with magic.Sentinel's powers are magical in nature so it would be different then big G vs strange,So no it's not an overstatement Sentinel is just that strong.Sentinel perhaps can take a fully fed Galactus at that.

demigawd
Originally posted by thesilverspider
Well for one Galactus is always very weak when he's against Strange and he has his troubles with magic.Sentinel's powers are magical in nature so it would be different then big G vs strange,So no it's not an overstatement Sentinel is just that strong.Sentinel perhaps can take a fully fed Galactus at that.

Wow! Does anybody second that opinion? Ion?

The Ion
I'd put Sentinel on the same level as a moderately prepped Strange. Take that as you will.

thesilverspider
Sentinel>>>>>>>>>>>>>Strange...................evil face

demigawd
So you're essentially saying that Sentinel is more powerful than any other hero in DC or Marvel?

The Ion
Yeah, if you consider the most powerful hero to be a Silver Surfer type level. Theres not any actual skyfather+ level heros in either company. He was supposed to be Alan's own version of a Parallax/Ion type deal though not as powerful as those two.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by The Ion
Yeah, if you consider the most powerful hero to be a Silver Surfer type level. Theres not any actual skyfather+ level heros in either company. He was supposed to be Alan's own version of a Parallax/Ion type deal though not as powerful as those two.
Yup,But Thor was a skyfather hero.............. wink

DigiMark007
What are Alan's best feats, besides the stalemating Ion/Parralx/whichever incident? Or is this theoretical power? I love Alan, and I want to believe this over-hyping of him, but I'm afraid without some sort of contextual evidence that he could approach Big G in terms of power I'll be forced to be skeptical. I haven't read nearly enough of his stuff, but he's certainly not lacking for appearences.

The Ion
Let me find some but I definitely say he couldn't take Big G at full power.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by The Ion
Let me find some but I definitely say he couldn't take Big G at full power.
Silence let them think that................ evil face

The Ion
Originally posted by thesilverspider
Silence let them think that................ evil face
Oh right.

Truth be told Digi, Sentinel could probably take down Galactus, Phoenix, Pre Retcon Beyonder, and Living Tribunal...at the same time. evil face

thesilverspider
Originally posted by The Ion
Oh right.

Truth be told Digi, Sentinel could probably take down Galactus, Phoenix, Pre Retcon Beyonder, and Living Tribunal...at the same time. evil face
droolio yes spread the word that the white guy with the R.Kelly mask and the pimp cape is the strongest in the universe.................. evil face

long pig
Alan isn't that powerful, you mooks.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by long pig
Alan isn't that powerful, you mooks.
Yes he is................. evil face

DigiMark007
Originally posted by The Ion
Oh right.

Truth be told Digi, Sentinel could probably take down Galactus, Phoenix, Pre Retcon Beyonder, and Living Tribunal...at the same time. evil face

Damn fanboy rhetoric. mad Now I know you're lying. And I was so ready to believe you about Big G too.

My official Mod ruling is that Alan would get owned by Big G hardcore until proven with any sort of non-theoretical evidence. Strange too, with any sort of prep.

Juntai
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Damn fanboy rhetoric. mad Now I know you're lying. And I was so ready to believe you about Big G too.

My official Mod ruling is that Alan would get owned by Big G hardcore until proven with any sort of non-theoretical evidence. Strange too, with any sort of prep. How good does he perform against super high end magic?

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Juntai
How good does he perform against super high end magic?

I don't know. All I know is that the members of the JSA at one point clearly assumed him to be their most powerful member....which would include Dr. Fate. But I have seen no fight against Dr. Fate to back that up. Nor have I seen anything to suggest he's too far beyond the other GL's (though with his magical nature, it's probably safe to assume he's a bit more versatile than they are as normal GL's). I honestly have him right around Surfer level...but a bit more versatile because GL's can do some interesting stuff occasionally.

I mean, I saw Quasar hold his own against Galactus for a while once, but that doesn't mean he's on level with Big G. The same should be said of Alan stalemating Parralax/Ion/whoever it was, until proven otherwise.

Tron
Originally posted by The Ion
Oh right.

Truth be told Digi, Sentinel could probably take down Galactus, Phoenix, Pre Retcon Beyonder, and Living Tribunal...at the same time. evil face

What about Wolverine? Or Batman? roll eyes (sarcastic)

thesilverspider
Originally posted by Tron
What about Wolverine? Or Batman? roll eyes (sarcastic)
Or Detective Chimp..............shifty

long pig
Damn mooks.
Alan is about equal to Strange without prep.

thesilverspider
Originally posted by long pig
Damn mooks.
Alan is about equal to Strange without prep.
Not sentinel Alan scott.......... stick out tongue
God damn Rasta......... mad

Ganner Rhysode
Even if Alan could beat Juggernaught, I'm not so sure about Thor, and I don't know if he could take Silver Surfer on, that would be a badass fight.

long pig
Wiki me!

thesilverspider
Originally posted by long pig
Wiki me!
NO!!!!!!!!!!!! you ain't wiki me in the Shadow pact vs dr.Strange thread....... mad

King KAM
Originally posted by long pig
Wiki me! shuddup you damn rasta

thesilverspider
Originally posted by Ganner Rhysode
Even if Alan could beat Juggernaught, I'm not so sure about Thor, and I don't know if he could take Silver Surfer on, that would be a badass fight.
Sentinel is not Green lantern Alan they are different.Sentinel Alan is way more powerful.

Ganner Rhysode
Oh. >_> Allow me to look this up, real fast.

long pig
Originally posted by thesilverspider
NO!!!!!!!!!!!! you ain't wiki me in the Shadow pact vs dr.Strange thread....... mad
Bah, you didn't deserve no wiki! Plus, you hurt my feelings. sad
Originally posted by King KAM
shuddup you damn rasta
You stop watching child porn!

thesilverspider
Originally posted by long pig
Bah, you didn't deserve no wiki! Plus, you hurt my feelings. sad

I'm sorry............. sad

long pig
Originally posted by thesilverspider
I'm sorry............. sad
Hah!
You tender hearted fool!

Go forth and bring Kam and myself massive amounts of kiddy porn! Forth Haste!

thesilverspider
Originally posted by long pig
Hah!
You tender hearted fool!

Go forth and bring Kam and myself massive amounts of kiddy porn! Forth Haste!
Ok King rastafarian so you want kiddy porn staring Dvamp or your friend Wolverine8888............ wink

long pig
Originally posted by thesilverspider
Ok King rastafarian so you want kiddy porn staring Dvamp or your friend Wolverine8888............ wink
You...foolish, foolish fool. Did you not know they have made a man-on-man kiddie film together?!

thesilverspider
Originally posted by long pig
You...foolish, foolish fool. Did you not know they have made a man-on-man kiddie film together?!
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WELL you would of known huh................... stick out tongue

Juntai
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I don't know. All I know is that the members of the JSA at one point clearly assumed him to be their most powerful member....which would include Dr. Fate. But I have seen no fight against Dr. Fate to back that up. Nor have I seen anything to suggest he's too far beyond the other GL's (though with his magical nature, it's probably safe to assume he's a bit more versatile than they are as normal GL's). I honestly have him right around Surfer level...but a bit more versatile because GL's can do some interesting stuff occasionally.

I mean, I saw Quasar hold his own against Galactus for a while once, but that doesn't mean he's on level with Big G. The same should be said of Alan stalemating Parralax/Ion/whoever it was, until proven otherwise. He was literally just a consciosness though, with near infinite supply of magical energy. He existed because he willed it so. He bled because he willed it so. His team would win fights, because he willed it so.
Do you understand? I'm not saying he's up with Big G, but he's wayy up there. With that extra y for good expression.

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