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I think Redman quite easily deserves his own thread.

Not only is he quite hilarious (unintentionally or not, I never know with him) but I truly believe he is an amazing lyricist.

Currently I've been listening to his solo albums a lot. They're all humourous and you can never take them seriously but I think they're all solid if they're not really good. I never really liked his Malpractice album when it got release (2001) but listening back, I think it was quite an eclectic album.

He seems to be ready to make a return soon with a new album (his first since 2001's Malpractice) and possibly a new album with Method Man, which I personally can't wait for.

So, yes...Redman .

-AC

I like his songs alot and some are funny and some are jus really addictin but I still like his songs. I wonder why hes mostly featurin in songs now dayz.

He's been putting out mixtapes and such on his somewhat underground label, but his new album- Red Gone Wild- is due out this year.

I'll pick it up most definitely.

-AC

Same here. I have so many Favorite songs but right now the song I like most is "Lets get dirty". Really hot beatz and the lyrics are great.

Whut and Muddy Waters are classics, no denying that, but that MTV Cribs thing him and Meth did, the Christina Aguilera song and Blackout (I just don't like it) put me off him recently.

He's great fun though, I agree with what you said in another thread about music being more enjoyable when it's clear the artist takes pleasure in what they're doing, tis why I can't get enough of Louis Logic.

There's a song on that album with Method Man (obviously) called Enjoy da Ride, in which Meth puts out one of the very best verses I've heard from him. Fun song.

I think Da Goodness is my favourite Redman song, or to be cliche, Whateva Man.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He's been putting out mixtapes and such on his somewhat underground label, but his new album- Red Gone Wild- is due out this year.

I'll pick it up most definitely.

-AC i wont pick it up. from the rumors i heard, Eminem is producing all the songs.

"Dare Iz a Darkside" and "Whut??? The Album" = Classics

Originally posted by -hh-
i wont pick it up. from the rumors i heard, Eminem is producing all the songs.

"Dare Iz a Darkside" and "Whut??? The Album" = Classics

In that case I won't be picking it up either, provided this is true.

I think Muddy Waters was his last great album. I don't mind Doc's da Name 2000 or Malpractice but they're not as good.

-AC

"Dare iz a Darkside" is IMO, Redman's best album followed by "Muddy Waters" then "Doc's da name"

I could never get enough of Redman's flow and how he rips it continuously and effortlessly and with a touch of humour at times. He's was definitely the best member of the Hit Squad and Def Squad.

The 1st time I heard Redman flip it was on that song "the Headbanger" back in like what '92, '93? Cause of his part in that song and ever since then, he's been my most favorite MC to listen to.

I still rock "Dare iz a Darkside" and flow to it like it just came out, lol

1. Dare Iz a Darkside
2. Whut Thee Album
3. Muddy Waters

how i rank his 3 best albums^

I never really looked into it but I always wondered if Mobb Deep ever had a problem with Def Squad. It was subtle but I did pick some things up like in that "Infamous" Interlude when Prodigy was talking, saying

"And oh yea, to all them rap-ass niggas, wit 'cha half-ass rhymes talkin' about how much you get high, how much weed you smoke, and that crazy space shit that don't even make no sense, don't ever speak to me when you see me, word, make me get on some 'ol high school s***, start punchin' niggas in they faces for livin', for real."

I remember lookin at my boy with a kinda shocked looked and him nodded sayin something like "Yup, he's bringin' it to them Def Squad niggas wit that space shit." Or maybe the beef was just with Keith Murray cause he thought he was hard as s***, boy lol

And "Dare iz a Darkside" (DIAD) came out in early '94 and "Infamous" came out afterwards that year and DIAD's theme was hell and "space" with songs like "Cosmic Slop" and "Da Journee" And lines like "I'm like an eclipse on the Friday the 13th, with Black cats and Haily's comet, blazin' blunts in my driveway." and "I travel the Milky Ways and the stars of the Gods, then return 6 billion feet beneath to get cigars."

And most of Redman songs, forget that albums heavily involve talkin' about weed or mad weed usage, and he talks about it more than the average MC, lol.

i don't know. And I forget what album and track name it was, but there was a jam where I heard Prodigy sayin' something like "I'll reach out to any Squad dat's Def" He was obviously talkin about Red and them, I dunno i just always wondered if they had beef?

Anyone know ?

Redman doesn't do beef, man. He'd rather spend his time on doing nothing but rhyming and smoking weed it seems.

Same as Meth. Despite the fact that in a battle they could both probably skin 90% plus of MCs if they tried.

-AC

"Travel around my curse universe
I'm droppin 98.7 degrees down to Red Alert
Droppin the slang, I'll bust your brains with the real shit"

Originally posted by Deathblow
He's great fun though, I agree with what you said in another thread about music being more enjoyable when it's clear the artist takes pleasure in what they're doing, tis why I can't get enough of Louis Logic.

louis logic is probably one of my favourite mc's, i havent been listening to him long enough to see if he'll stand the test of time for me, but ive definitely been listening to all his albums over and over again. i love a rapper that doesnt give a ****, hes so consistently dope and funny at the same time. i cant get enough of him either.

oh def

redman = top 10 rapper DOA

fist, imo, muddy waters is his best album.

AC you agree with me that em got redman as his blueprint... flow-wise and subject matter?

redman and meth

http://youtube.com/w/Method-Man-%26-Redman---Rap-City-Freestyle?v=SgkNPUeITC4&search=redman

yea, Redmans ill one of my fav rappers in fact, ill def pick up his new album

if Eminem produces, i guarantee you that i will not pick it up. Eminem is an awful producer.

i think redman is alright.

Originally posted by -hh-
if Eminem produces, i guarantee you that i will not pick it up. Eminem is an awful producer.

Why, cause of 50, hu..

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Why, cause of 50, hu..

Might because of the Tupac and Biggie collab

Originally posted by -hh-
redman and meth

http://youtube.com/w/Method-Man-%26-Redman---Rap-City-Freestyle?v=SgkNPUeITC4&search=redman

The best part is when Red comes back in and messes up but somehow turns it into a great verse.

Meth always looks like he's battling the microphone, just easy for him.

-AC

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Why, cause of 50, hu.. 50? no cuz as i said, Eminem is an awful producer. his beats all sound the same.

I think it'd be an interesting collabo album, Em and Red.

It'll be like Jim Carrey doin' a movie with Robin Williams. Straight ill and mad comedic. I'll probably pick it up.

except eminems not funny and cant rap lol

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
i don't know. And I forget what album and track name it was, but there was a jam where I heard Prodigy sayin' something like "I'll reach out to any Squad dat's Def" He was obviously talkin about Red and them, I dunno i just always wondered if they had beef?

Anyone know ?

Nah, even if he did mention them, it obviously never got to that level. P just used to hate on any MC that didn't spit straight up street anyway, he had his own ideas of what hip-hop should and shouldn't be. Ha, I'd really love to see the kinda reaction Prodigy circa '95 would give if he could see what he'd become by 2005.




Originally posted by Phat J
louis logic is probably one of my favourite mc's, i havent been listening to him long enough to see if he'll stand the test of time for me, but ive definitely been listening to all his albums over and over again. i love a rapper that doesnt give a ****, hes so consistently dope and funny at the same time. i cant get enough of him either.

Yeah he's the type that can bind totally crazy lines to a really tight structure, like that part in the opening verse of Diablos, that whole ''leave your unfortunate seeds in an orphanage'' part, just rolls straight off the tongue in terms of flow, but every single word is relevant which is something so many other MCs can't achieve. Lyrically, I don't think his shit will age, but I get the feeling a lot of the production will get outdated quite fast, some of it might even sound cheesy.

Originally posted by Phat J
except eminems not funny and cant rap lol nah Em can rap. he has great potential. he's just consumed by media's expectations.

Originally posted by -hh-
nah Em can rap. he has great potential. he's just consumed by media's expectations.

very true

IMO, Eminem will go down in Hip-Hop history as one of the greatest lyricists the game has known.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
IMO, Eminem will go down in Hip-Hop history as one of the greatest lyricists the game has known.

yea there u go one of the greatest

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
IMO, Eminem will go down in Hip-Hop history as one of the greatest lyricists the game has known. see you would be right if he stopped releasing garbage after his first mainstream album. Eminem has alot of potential, he's just not using it wisely. i think he's given up. he does all this for the $$$$$$

Yeah he fell off/sold out, that doesn't disqualify him from being one of the greats. Ice Cube did the same thing.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Yeah he fell off/sold out, that doesn't disqualify him from being one of the greats. Ice Cube did the same thing. he's great without a doubt, but what he's releasing nowadays isn't consistent with what he had done in the past. i just can't consider him as one of the greats.

But the thing is, that applies to a high percentage of the great hip hop acts. Mobb Deep, Snoop and Dre, Ice Cube, Q-Tip, Public Enemy, and others have all shown huge decline in quality. They'll still go down in hip hop history as the greats. Because no matter how hard their fall is, what people are going to remember is how good these artists were in their prime.

we'll yea, like Nas said in one of his interviews, you expect for him to release another Illmatic, but it's just not gonna happen.

You can decline, and every mc does decline eventually, but he went from great to garbage. i can understand going from great to good to decent, but he literally changed. just my opinion.

No I see what you're saying..

Originally posted by -hh-
we'll yea, like Nas said in one of his interviews, you expect for him to release another Illmatic, but it's just not gonna happen.

You can decline, and every mc does decline eventually, but he went from great to garbage. i can understand going from great to good to decent, but he literally changed. just my opinion.

That's understandable but what I was referring too was his prime.

The future does not equal the past and vise versa. The Slim Shady LP and the Marshall Mathers LP were in my opinion, his best albums. To me, his decline came after those 2 albums, but just because he was great, but then went straight to garbage doesn't mean he can't be considered as one of the greatest MC's in hip-hop ever, if he was nice in the past. No matter how low he sinks now, he still ripped it back then, in those 2 albums.

Originally posted by -hh-
nah Em can rap. he has great potential. he's just consumed by media's expectations.

i meant em cant rap now, hes showed his potential already. he just fell off.

i wouldnt consider him one of the greatest mc's ever, he wasnt that good. infinite, which is i think his best song to date, was from his first album. his next album as a whole was better after that, but there wasnt a song that beat infinite lyrically.

The Slim Shady LP was absolutely incredible.

I personally believe his following album was poor, with only a couple of good tracks. It showed that he was regretting how much he pissed off parents because it was he who needed those parents to give their kids money to buy his albums.

Now he sings songs like Mockingbird.

One famous line: "Should I dye my hair pink and care what y'all think? Lip-sync and buy a bigger size of earrings?"

Ironically he has now become a lip-syncing wannabe fashion mogul.

He's commercialised those who previously associated with Dre also, including Dre himself. Xzibit gained a legion of Shady wannabes as his fans when Eminem started appearing with him, as did Dre.

-AC

Originally posted by -hh-
You can decline, and every mc does decline eventually

Unless your name is Gary Grice

GZA's spent the last fourteen years improving. I'm absolutely certain he'll retire before he declines.

Declining in ability isn't necessarily bad if you just naturally lose it, just unfortunate.

Declining because you want to meet the appeal and expectations of Carson Daly and MTV means that yes, you suck.

-AC

Originally posted by Deathblow
Unless your name is Gary Grice

GZA's spent the last fourteen years improving. I'm absolutely certain he'll retire before he declines. true. gza never fails to impress me

Why does he call himself REDman? He aint Native American.

who cares what he calls himself. he's easily one of the best mc's. Top 10 for me.

Originally posted by -hh-
who cares what he calls himself. he's easily one of the best mc's. Top 10 for me.

That's fine and dandy, but it doesn't answer my question.

Xzibit isn't an exhibit, Dr. Dre isn't a Doctor, 50 Cent isn't worth that much.

What's your point?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Xzibit isn't an exhibit, Dr. Dre isn't a Doctor, 50 Cent isn't worth that much.

What's your point?

-AC

Well no shit, but they all mean something. I just wanna know the origin of his name.

Anyone??????

-DB

if your gonna copy AC and do the -DB thing, at least make it consistent.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Xzibit isn't an exhibit, Dr. Dre isn't a Doctor, 50 Cent isn't worth that much.

What's your point?

-AC

For whatever reason whenever I hear or think of redman I think of methodman as well Oh well

I have to say about Exhibit after I saw pimp my ride on MTV and he hooked that kid up with the scionxb I have nothing but respect for that dawg!

Originally posted by soleran30
For whatever reason whenever I hear or think of redman I think of methodman as well Oh well

I have to say about Exhibit after I saw pimp my ride on MTV and he hooked that kid up with the scionxb I have nothing but respect for that dawg! because meth and red have collabed many times

Same but it's because they are basically brothers!

Originally posted by ThisIsALongName
Same but it's because they are basically brothers! they aren't brothers.

^cousins

Originally posted by #16
^cousins no i don't think they are cousins. Redman is cousins with Tame One, not Method Man.

Originally posted by -hh-
no i don't think they are cousins. Redman is cousins with Tame One, not Method Man.

aiight, as long as youre sure

i always knew they were cousins

Originally posted by #16
aiight, as long as youre sure

i always knew they were cousins i really don'tt hink they are cousins.

are snoop and kurupt cousins?

Originally posted by -hh-
i really don'tt hink they are cousins.

are snoop and kurupt cousins?

dunno'

i stopped checking out on snoop a long time ago

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Xzibit isn't an exhibit, Dr. Dre isn't a Doctor, 50 Cent isn't worth that much.

What's your point?

-AC @ 50

isnt every in the Wu-Tang Clan related somehow? i would check but im too lazy

Originally posted by Mugen
isnt every in the Wu-Tang Clan related somehow? i would check but im too lazy no

only Rza, Gza and ODB

i thought Meth was cousins with somebody in the clan.

Originally posted by Mugen
i thought Meth was cousins with somebody in the clan.

No but O.D.B., GZA and RZA were cousins

Are Redman and Hurracaine G, siblings?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Are Redman and Hurracaine G, siblings? i heard something about that, not sure if it's true though. I thought Hurricane G was just a huge fan of redman.

Originally posted by -hh-
i really don'tt hink they are cousins.

are snoop and kurupt cousins?

Snoop and Nate are cousins.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Snoop and Nate are cousins. you sure?

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Snoop and Nate are cousins.

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck

If cousins you mean by crip then yes. Yes they are blue_bandana