Respect Street Fighter,Mega Man,MGS, Other

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Cyber Ninja
In order to put these people in Vs you must understand them first. In here you will post pics/stats,info or W/e on ANYvideo game character that was made in a game first. I put it in general so this froum won't get flooded with these, and use Street Figher(my favorite fighting game ever and love the anime), Mega Man(because he is Megaman),Sonic( Best character ever made) and Mgs( love it) as a guide.

Note: Remember the page number you post info and w/e on your game characters so if some one in the vs do not know about something you could just simply tell them the page number in here and they will know.





http://www.theallineed.com/webmasters/anim/street_fighter_031.gif

JacopeX
((good idea oh and dont forget Mortal Kombat))

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/ven-spida/Capcom/ryu2.gif

Cyber Ninja
Street Fighter!!!>>>>>>http://media.putfile.com/Ken-Vs-Vega<<<<<<<< Watch it and love it

Cyber Ninja
Ryu kicks ass http://media.putfile.com/Ryu-kicks-ass watch it and love it

Cyber Ninja
Yeah feel free to add stuff..

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
Yeah feel free to add stuff.. Some Mega Man stuff is on the way. I just need the time to write a bit and post pics from my laptop.

JacopeX
iight

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/NirvanaClockwork/Mortal%20Kombat/subzero-freeze.gif

JacopeX
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/ven-spida/Capcom/megaman1.gif

shin_remy
anybody who hasn't seen street fighter alpha must see it.

that anime movie is the one who show you it most how they fight. how it goes in the sf universe. DBZ stylish. too bad you won't see ken and akuma, chun li and many others in ''REAL'' action)

capcom brings different animes out. all different story's and syles of fighting. Sf 2 V is non cannon and won't show how they really fight but it is fine anime

Sonic x 20
Here's a Pic of Leonardo from TMNT Tournament Fighters doing His SUPER ATTACK the MILLENIUM WAVE:

Cyber Ninja
Originally posted by shin_remy
anybody who hasn't seen street fighter alpha must see it.

that anime movie is the one who show you it most how they fight. how it goes in the sf universe. DBZ stylish. too bad you won't see ken and akuma, chun li and many others in ''REAL'' action)

capcom brings different animes out. all different story's and syles of fighting. Sf 2 V is non cannon and won't show how they really fight but it is fine anime I have everything streetfighter. Anime series,Movies,Comics, games...more



Yes bring the megaman x(to the other guy)

Sonic x 20
Here's another Pic of Michaelangelo from TMNT Tournament Fighters doing His SPECIAL ATTACK the RISING THUDER:

Cyber Ninja
Very nice but did tmnt a game at first no eek!

Sonic x 20
I think TMNT was One of the First like Street Fighter and others.

Cyber Ninja
Originally posted by Sonic x 20
I think TMNT was One of the First like Street Fighter and others. Did they originate from games before comics and cartoon ?

Anyway show a pic og Don and Ralph to finish up the 4

and you should put sonic stuff and write info eek!

bean_machine
I respect Street Fighter,Mega Man,MGS, Other, but when they are pitted against the likes of Supes then I just say it how it is.

Cyber Ninja
Originally posted by bean_machine
I respect Street Fighter,Mega Man,MGS, Other, but when they are pitted against the likes of Supes then I just say it how it is. ok confused but this is just a thread for game characters...the comic respect ones are in the comic section.

Sonic x 20
Here's another Pic of Raphael doinig His SUPER ATTACK the ENERGY SPRAY:

Sonic x 20
Sorry for Double Posting and here's the Last One of Donatello doing His SUPER ATTACK the SPIRIT DRAGON:

shin_remy
Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
I have everything streetfighter. Anime series,Movies,Comics, games...more

you think??

nobody can have everything from street fighter. thats impossible!! believe me!!

or you have spend 8000 euro out??

Blue nocturne
Check out the street fighter plot guide for accurate info in gamefaqs.com

Cyber Ninja
Can you fimd them and post them please ?

Cyber Ninja
http://www.rotendo.50megs.com/images/cammy.jpg

Cyber Ninja
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fightgen/characters/chunny-fireball1212.gif

Acrosurge
Um, that's a lot of bumping there, Cyber Ninja. As promised, here's the scoop on the various characters to bear the name Mega Man.

1. Mega Man/Rockman - The second humanoid robot created by genius Dr. Thomas Light, Rock was programmed with advanced AI, emulating a 10 year old boy. His strong sense of justice is his defining attribute.

After Dr. Light converted Rock's body to a superrobot, he gained titanium armor, enormous strength, and the ability to charge and release plasma energy in either arm. He soon adopted the moniker "Mega Man" as a type of super hero name.

Being a robot, Mega Man possesses superior speed, reflexes, agility, and targeting ability. His strength allows him to brace and lift enormous weights, land unharmed from great heights, and knock over robots several stories tall with a single punch. He can instaneously transform either arm into his Mega Buster, which can charge blasts of energy capable of vaporizing several tanks in a single shot. On occasion, Mega Man has charged energy in both arms and subsequently released two charged blasts at once.

Mega Man's special ability allows him to copy the abilities of his enemies. In addition, he can call on the power of Dr. Light's other creations, such as Beat (a robotic bird) and Rush (a robot canine). Utilizing Rush, Mega Man can transform into his most powerful incarnation, Super Mega Man.

Acrosurge
Rock - The original Mega Man, a robot created by Dr. Thomas Light in 200X.

Acrosurge
Mega Man transforms with Rush to form the Super Armor. Image used from Planet-Mega Man.

swedish_bum
Mega man ROCKS! rock big grin

unrealman
Bison causing a massive explosion by release his good half from his soul

http://onfinite.com/libraries/780905/567.jpg

unrealman
here are some facts

Zangief Facts

1 withstood a F5 Tornado

2 Wrestles Grizzly Bears

Grizzly Bear facts

1 Can stop a mountain elk charge and snap it's neck like a twig.

2 Can break a horse or deer's neck with one swipe of it's Paw.

3 Can break a bull's back with only three swipes from it's Paw.

4 one mighty swipe from it's paw can crush a cows head.


Balrog

1 Can kill a elephant with one punch.


Cody:

1 can break through a 1 foot thick Concrete wall

http://cementamericas.com/mag/cement_cement_concrete_environment/index.html



Akuma



1 Sunk a island with one punch

2 Split a Mountain in half

3 Destory a Sunk ship and blast it to the surface,
causing chaos even for another ship on the water .

4 cause a Power surge that made a deep submarine lose communication

5 can withstand the extreme crushing pressure of the deep sea.


Urien

1 his body is made of Iron

Charlie

1 he can throw sonic booms from any of his limbs

edit: the sonic boom goes faster than the speed of sound ( mach 2)



Hugo

1 he withstood the Shin Shoryuken

Edit: the Shin Shoryuken can officially could kill someone ( ryu's style isn't designed to kill, but that doesn't mean it can't kill due to the sheer
damage alone).

Blue nocturne
How much can hugo and zangief lift?

unrealman
this is Ryu's Maximum potential BP , not his
actual BP. Otherwise Ryu would have owned everyone in Alpha, let alone
beyond.


BP: 125500

Akuma's SP

SP: 120000

Blue nocturne
So that's how much tons?

unrealman
seems mainly to be a retelling of official stats, it's
probably not as significant as we thought. Surely everyone can't be exactly
as strong as they are big, since training and style doesn't seem to matter.
However, the exceptions might give some hints."

Dee Jay is rated in dB (Decibels) by Juni. At 172, he's louder than a
train :P


http://www.abelard.org/hear/hear.htm

Acrosurge

Acrosurge
After gaining access to upgrade capsules from his creator, X gains armor that allows him to access more of his latent ability. Below, X is clad in one of his more powerful armors, the Force Armor.

Acrosurge
In the year 22XX, X gained access to the sleek Stealth Armor. He used it to infiltrate the enormous, reploid-built islands of Giga City. The armor allowed him complete stealth to all but the most advanced sensors. It also boasted powerful armor, energy shields, and the X-Buster's special attack released a series of power waves that could decimate small armies in a single, charged blast.

Blue nocturne
So X doesn't need armors to access his full power

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
So X doesn't need armors to access his full power Nope. Even in the early days, X has tapped his infinite power for short periods without armor(Maverick Hunter: X, X1).

The armors simply allow X to access powers already within him. In time, X can unleash his powers without them (circa MMZ).

unrealman
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfa3charlie232xb.gif

http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfa3charlie268fy.gif

Blue nocturne
Nice info acrosurge where do you get it from?

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Nice info acrosurge where do you get it from? Its a compilation from a bunch of sources including game scripts, Japanese sourcebooks, and sub products like the OST soundtracks which include audio dramatization with the game voice actors.

Acrosurge
Here's a pic of the only reploid who's been able to keep pace with X and Zero's growing power. He's the one, the immortal, the strongest reploid in history: Sigma. Aside from overwhelming speed and power, Sigma has intelligence that puts the world's greatest human minds to shame. He's turned nations against each other, reploids against humans, and pitted reploid against reploid. He's transcended the limits of power and mortality. He once superimposed his will upon most of the reploid populace planet Earth and started to do the same to humans. The only things that Sigma has never permanently overcome are X and Zero.

Acrosurge
Here's Sigma in one of his stronger incarnations, one that could annihilate a city with a wave of his hand.

Blue nocturne
Megaman characters have got to be one of capcoms strongest characters.

Blue nocturne
Is sigma smarter the doctor light and docter willy?!

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Megaman characters have got to be one of capcoms strongest characters. The one's in the X and Zero series are definitely up there.

As for Sigma, he's definitely more analytical than Doc Light and Wily, but since he isn't able to duplicate X's limitless potential, I'm guessing he can't completely match Dr. Light. Sigma did use Dr. Wily for his own gain, however. Fans have their own conclusions as to who is smarter.

unrealman
Darkstalker feats

1 Demitri Maximoff defeat Pyron a being who could destory Stars while only had 80% of his power

2 Belial ( the demon king)

feats

1 he has a barrier that can withstand up to one million degrees Celsius

2 he killed 200 Makai nobles with a swing of his arm

3 Rip Demitri's castle and the gate into human world , while damaging space itself.

unrealman
Crossover Akuma's feats

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Coco_J/ed2d_a00.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Coco_J/ed2d_a01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Coco_J/ed2d_a02.jpg

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/c/svcsak.htm


http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/c/svcsak.htm

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/c/svcaku2.htm

Blue nocturne
About that are feats in unofficial sources official unrealman, I've seen many

1.Dhalsim paralyzing people with his mind in "Street fighter 2 the animated movie"

2. Vega (M. bison in english) Levatating ken in "street fighter 2 the animated movie"

3.Vega's body being filled with just psycho power in "street fighter V seris"

And many more (The pictures you just posted.)

I know alpha the movie is accurate in the way they portray the fights and abilities but what about the other movies or even marvel vs capcom 2?

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
About that are feats in unofficial sources official unrealman, I've seen many

1.Dhalsim paralyzing people with his mind in "Street fighter 2 the animated movie"

2. Vega (M. bison in english) Levatating ken in "street fighter 2 the animated movie"

3.Vega's body being filled with just psycho power in "street fighter V seris"

And many more (The pictures you just posted.)

I know alpha the movie is accurate in the way they portray the fights and abilities but what about the other movies or even marvel vs capcom 2? I wouldn't consider Marvel vs Capcom 2 to be accurate in any way. I mean, c'mon, that game places Thanos and Servbot on a somewhat equal level. That's not canon; that's lunacy. Fun, but still lunacy.

Blue nocturne
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I wouldn't consider Marvel vs Capcom 2 to be accurate in any way. I mean, c'mon, that game places Thanos and Servbot on a somewhat equal level. That's not canon; that's lunacy. Fun, but still lunacy.

Well ryu can do energy beams so yeah.

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Well ryu can do energy beams so yeah. It seems many SF fans don't consider the crossovers canon either, according to that compilation link you posted not long ago. Man, that sucker was long, but it had a lot of great info.

Blue nocturne
Originally posted by Acrosurge
It seems many SF fans don't consider the crossovers canon either, according to that compilation link you posted not long ago. Man, that sucker was long, but it had a lot of great info.

I meant in alpha the movie which in terms of abilities is considered canon.

Blue nocturne
Acrosurge is "Hyper megaman" possible in the real canon and what about mega upper.

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Acrosurge is "Hyper megaman" possible in the real canon and what about mega upper. Hyper Mega Man has never been seen outside of MVC. I doubt that's canon, though it is a cool idea. The Mega Uppercut is canon. Mega Man had that ability in Mega Man: The Power Fighters.

unrealman
I made tiers for the SF comic

Tier 1: Akuma, Dhalsim, M.Bison , Gen

Tier 2: Ryu, Sagat, Shadow / Charlie , Rose

Tier 3 Ken, Balrog , Cammy and Bison's master

Tier 4 Guile, Chun-li , Vega , the twelve dolls and Feilong

Tier 5: Adon, Birdie, Blanka , Zangief , Sakura and R.Mika


Tier 6 : E.Honda and Dee Jay

tier 7: Dan

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Here's Sigma in one of his stronger incarnations, one that could annihilate a city with a wave of his hand.

rofl... that looks like a gundam.. they need a new artist...
their older work with megaman in his X1 and X2 days had such good artwork.. it was partially the reason that made me wish to learn artwork

I only like Zero's newer armor.. with the skin tight black and red bulky armor.. thats cool

Blue nocturne
Originally posted by unrealman
I made tiers for the SF comic

Tier 1: Akuma, Dhalsim, M.Bison , Gen

Tier 2: Ryu, Sagat, Shadow / Charlie , Rose

Tier 3 Ken, Balrog , Cammy and Bison's master

Tier 4 Guile, Chun-li , Vega , the twelve dolls and Feilong

Tier 5: Adon, Birdie, Blanka , Zangief , Sakura and R.Mika


Tier 6 : E.Honda and Dee Jay

tier 7: Dan

Dhalsim top tier how?!

unrealman
he basicaly beat sagat in the comic by messing with his mind , ok so maybe that makes him tier 2 and not tier 1.


he are some akuma pics


http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/sfa2ryu.htm

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/main.htm

unrealman
Chun-Li comic feats

http://www.udoncomics.com/preview/streetfighter2/11.html

http://www.udoncomics.com/preview/streetfighter2/12.html


Sagat showing offf his power.


http://www.udoncomics.com/preview/sf2_2preview/02.html

http://www.udoncomics.com/preview/sf2_2preview/03.html

edit: Sagat hits ryu with his tiger raid move and this move makes ryu crash in to a concrete build so hard that it would have paralysis a lesser man. after that Sagat holds back his punch and hit's the concrete wall.

note 2: the hit is so hard that it creates a crater in the concrete wall.

shin_remy
Originally posted by unrealman
I made tiers for the SF comic

Tier 1: Akuma, Dhalsim, M.Bison , Gen

Tier 2: Ryu, Sagat, Shadow / Charlie , Rose

Tier 3 Ken, Balrog , Cammy and Bison's master

Tier 4 Guile, Chun-li , Vega , the twelve dolls and Feilong

Tier 5: Adon, Birdie, Blanka , Zangief , Sakura and R.Mika


Tier 6 : E.Honda and Dee Jay

tier 7: Dan

whahahaahaaaa laughing that sucks

i suppose that it is you thinking but Ken and Ryu were even in Alpha and Ken was even stronger then Ryu for a while

smile no offence but you may right about the comics smile

brainchild81
Any pix of R.Mika?

unrealman
http://onfinite.com/libraries/780905/567.jpg

http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf06034yl.jpg

http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf05040dg.jpg

http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf11027gb.jpg

http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf11033mb.jpg


http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf11046ib.jpg

jinzin
RESPECK bison:

unrealman
some more characters

Necro facts


Necro's girlfriend and fellow mutant is Effie.




Necro's real name is Illia. He was kidnapped(?) while a boy and brought
into the G-Project, then enhanced into a mutant freak.


He has a built-in power generator



Inside his brain is a cybernetic computer that helps give him
superhuman fighting abilities.


Twelve facts

Twelve is one of the mutants of the G
project, from Gill's organization. A genetically engineered super mutant
who regenerates, does not suffer damage, and has no memory. He's in a
capsule and being admired by Dr. Kure (the Chinese looking man) and
the project chief. The chief says something like there's less than
0.0001% chance of Twelve not fulfilling a mission, and the doc calls
Twelve an undying soldier along with other things.


Twelve can reassemble/repair any damage to his body. His creation was
based on something called the human body reconstruction theory.



Twelve, and most likely his fellow mutants, speaks in binary notation
(1's and 0's


Urien facts


Urien has an inferiority complex to his brother, Gill, and is very
jealous of Gill. Gill seems to be naturally more powerful and Gill was
chosen to be the savior and Emperor, leaving Urien in the dust


The Aegis Reflector is one of the 66 secret techniques of the
Mysterious Organization


While his brother Gill's elements are fire and ice, Urien's elements
appear to be wind/lightning and earth, judging by how he makes iron
clanking sounds when hit and his many special moves.


Urien's clanking noises come from his ability to turn his flesh hard as
iron.

Blue nocturne
I think people need to be more informed on street fighter in this forum there always spurting nonsense about the story...

unrealman
facts about juni

juni has a high amount of psycho power, able to do the mach slide at
will and she has a psycho Shield. this is because of Juni scan Akuma
and implementing some of his powers ( such as the the Hooligan Combination
and the Mach Slide)


Bison sent Juni to scan Akuma's abilities.

Blue nocturne
So psycho power can mimic people's powers!?

unrealman
about the tiers

the tiers go by the character's most
present state since they were last seen. ( expection Sagat)


Tier 1 SF3 third strike akuma , Gill, SFA3 M.bison


Tier 2 SF 3 Third Strike Ryu, Evil Ryu, SF2 M.bison , Q , SF3 third strike Sagat


Tier 3 SFA 3 Rose , SFA 3 Charlie , SFA 3 Gen , SF3 third strike ken, Urien



Tier 4 SF2 Guile , SF3 third strike chun-li, Hugo , Sf2 vega , Twelve


Tier 5 SFA 3 Cody, SFA 3 Guy, SFA 3 Adon , SFA 3 Sakura , SF2 Balrog , SF2 Cammy , SF2 Zangief , SF2 T.Hawk , SF2 Dhalsim, Alex


Tier 6 SFA 3 Twelve Dolls , SFA 3 Rolento , SFA 3 Sodom , SFA 3 Karin , SFA 3 Birdie , Necro, Dudley


Tier 7 SF2 blanka, SF2 Fei Long , SF2 E.Honda

Tier 8 Makoto, Ibuki, Elena, Yun, Yang, Remy

Tier 9 SF2 Dee Jay, SFA 3 R. Mika, SFA 3 Dan

Tier 10 Sean

unrealman
i more indepth look at the power tiers

Tier 1

This tier should be obvious. Gill, especially, with his fire and
ice creation, angel powers, and his last boss towering status. Akuma
should be, too. By SF3, the guy can destroy mountains, islands, and stay
in deep ocean for crying out loud. And Oro beat Ryu in the SF3 tournament,
and that was despite being handicapped by binding his arm. The guy's
become powerful enough to live to 150 years or so... I won't go into a
deeper analysis due to how obvious this tier is. Who specifically is the
best among Gill, Oro, and Akuma is up in the air, but eh, tiers aren't
supposed to be THAT specific. Bison during SFA3 probably went into this
range, also. Being able to take on Ken and Sakura at the same time (only
forced to retreat due to Ryu coming to), then Rose, then all 13 Dolls, then
Guile, Chun-Li, and Charlie has got to say something.



Tier 2

M. Bison: Akuma can beat him in SF2. Whether Akuma could have beaten him
during SFA3 where he was stronger (and Akuma was most likely weaker), not
sure, but in his last state, he generally goes here from all KNOWN factual
evidence (unknown stuff like how he lost the SF2 tournament or even if he
DID since we don't know when Akuma killed him aren't being considered here
since... well, it's unknown). He's definately high up, though. His
weakened body wasn't weakened to the point where he'd really really plummet
in the tiers, and during Alpha 3 it took a rather ludicrous amount of
consecutive battles against multiple opponents to finally take him down.


Ryu: Seen by Oro as the one with the potential to be trained, generally
considered a legend (see Makoto's statements about him), whomped Alex
easily in Third Strike, only lost the SF3 tournament because he went up
against the godly Oro and even then impressed the old guy, etc etc. This
one should be pretty obvious.


Evil Ryu: A major point of Ryu's SFA3 storyline is that he could follow
the path to warrior perfection without giving in to the Satsu no Hadou.
Even though Evil Ryu was really high up back then, the reason regular Ryu
is on the same tier is due to Ryu's revelations since then. He has now
managed to reach what he could have been had he given in. Generally shown
by Ryu promptly telling Akuma that Satsu no Hadou is not the way in SF3.
Er... yea. It's mostly implied as far as I know, but the implications are
more than enough to place the two into this tier with enough certainty.


Sagat: Although he was too obsessed with revenge and unfocused during
Alpha, by the end of Alpha 3, he has realized the error of his ways and is
now on the path to the true warrior. All statements and storyline
implications from there on are that Sagat is matching Ryu step for step in
progress as they await their glorious battle, so it's really easy to tier
Sagat here. Note that this is Sagat in his most present state, not most
present state since when he was last seen in a game, since unlike other
characters, it's easy to estimate where Sagat is even without seeing him
due to all the statements and implications.



Q: Q is marked as 'hinted' because there's no way to really gauge his
tier, what with him having no interactions with anyone else in the
storyline. But he's robotic and can somehow zip around the world, and
those are typically always powerful, and the effects of his moves sure look
darn powerful. So as a guestimate, he gets to be in this tier. Though
again, it's mostly a guess.

unrealman
Tier 3

Rose: She's M. Bison lite. She's the only character in Alpha that was
actually able to give Bison a somewhat decent match one-on-one. But... she
still lost, so she's a tier lower. Rose could put up a fight against Alpha
Bison (well, actually, she WON in Alpha 2. Only 'lost' in Alpha 3) while
Chun-Li got owned for free in Alpha 2, and since there really isn't much to
indicate that Chun-Li improved THAT much since Alpha, Rose gets to be a
tier higher. Chun-Li only started being called the strongest woman in the
world since SF2, after Rose was gone.


Ken: Ryu states to Ken in SF3 that he still has the better win record.
But the way he says it indicates that it's still pretty close. Thus Ken
gets this tier. Pretty obvious, I think.



Gen: I think it's hard to decide whether he's in tier 2 or tier 3, but
he's definately up there. Gen was able to fight Akuma to a standstill in
Alpha, after all. He's definately not as good as the further trained Akuma
of SF3, though (Gen of course being most likely unable to further train
because he's most likely dead). I'd be really surprised if he (and thus
even Akuma during that time) was as strong as "I take on tons of people by
myself" SFA3 Bison, so... generally tier 3 for him. On a random note, Gen
uses ki in his attacks with lots of skill. It's just not as obvious as
Akuma (not all ki usage manifests as fireballs or something visual).




Charlie: Charlie is the US Martial Arts champion. Took down Bison in
SFA3, albeit with a little help. What mainly puts him here with certainty
instead of circumstantiality though I believe is how he's better than Guile
(even SF2 Guile). Charlie's ki manipulation is implied to be right up
there with Ryu and other top-notch fighters. He can shoot sonic booms from
any of his limbs, even his feet (something that Guile needs LOTS of
concentration to do. It takes Guile two hands and officially stated all
his focus just to throw one sonic boom). Since Guile, at least based on
what we can think of, comes into the tier below, and Charlie is definately
above Guile, even without the circumstantial evidence, we can generally
place Charlie in this tier.


Urien: Like Gen, I'm personally not sure if he should be in Tier 2 or Tier
3, but he's up there. He's better than Chun-Li (he's only toying with her
in SF3 Third Strike after all) and definately lower than Gill (Gill doesn't
even have to take him seriously and his power compared to Urien's is one of
the many things Urien is jealous of, of course). Anyways, Urien's
abilities include earth and lightning manipulation and an iron body (as
part of his earth manipulation). He's blinded by jealousy, though. This
is why despite having power equal to Gill, he likely is weaker in actual
practice (less focused).

unrealman
Tier 4

Guile: Most likely winner of the SF2 tournament. If you decide to ignore
that, then there's also the way in how he's storyline-wise more interwoven
and more 'important' than most of the other SF2 characters, and they
typically get favored in the storyline power tiers. And I believe he's
meant to be the same power as Chun-Li, but I forget^^; Whatever the case,
he's been training really hard since SFA3, though Charlie in SFA3 was still
most likely better than him (see Charlie in Tier 3 for reasons). He isn't
progressing any more because he gave up fighting after SF2 to be a family
man.


Chun-Li: Weaker than Rose but after Rose died then come SF2, is called the
strongest woman in the world, thus gets to be above the other female
characters in the next tier. That was easy. ...er, going further, Chun-Li
isn't any higher because she quit the ICPO and generally retired from
fighting and training after SF2 (course, after SF3, she trains OTHERS, but
that's another story). Anyways, Capcom has stated that she's the strongest
woman in the world during SF2, so it's not just the opinion of the SF
tournament audience (or whatever) that she is.


Hugo: Actually rather surprising he's up here, but all the facts point to
it. Hugo is officially stated to have withstood the shin shoryuken against
Ryu, which is officially stated to be one of the most powerful moves in the
world, so right there you know he's a really strong guy. He is also
officially stated to have made 'an amazing performance' in the SF3
tournament, which probably means he's generally above the majority of the
SF3 characters (he lost the tournament due to going up against Ryu, of
course. Oh, and to those who think Hugo is all stamina and nothing else, I
highly doubt he would have been stated to have made an amazing performance
if he didn't at least put up a somewhat decent fight against Ryu. So no,
he's not just a big punching bag with lots of endurance). As for who is
better, Hugo or Alex, well, Hugo withstanding the shin shoryuken means that
he probably put up a better fight against Ryu than Alex did. He withstood
an attack that officially could kill someone (Yea, Ryu's style isn't
designed to kill, but that doesn't mean it can't kill due to the sheer
damage alone) compared to Alex, who Ryu didn't even break a sweat fighting
against. That would probably earn him a tier spot higher. Ryu still beat
him somewhat soundly, though, so he's definately not up in Ken's tier.



Vega: Cammy's love-hate rival is generally better than her, and almost
positively let her win in their fight in SFA3. Therefore, Vega's a tier
higher than Cammy. Easy. He's also a better fighter within Shadaloo than
Balrog, I believe (not sure if it was officially stated. I think it was,
but I forget). He doesn't go any higher because that would place him on
Gen's level, which seems pretty darn silly. Capcom doesn't go around
praising his ability like they do for Charlie. Course... a harder more
definitive proof might just be simply that Rose beats him in A3. He
seems around the same ability as Chun-Li, given the rivalry
Capcom initially endorsed between them (where Vega was jealous of Chun-Li's
beauty). Of course, I guess they decided Cammy was a better match later
on.


Twelve: Again, there's lack of storyline interaction. But Twelve
officially feels no pain, and he can morph into other characters, so he's
probably up there somewhere. He's at least tier 5, because all lab reports
from Gill's organization indicate that he should be superior to Necro in
every way (not that that means it's fact, but it's the best thing to go by
so far. Course, you never know how far 'spirit' could go, I suppose).

unrealman
Tier 5

Guy and Cody: Hard to tier, IMHO. They can beat Sodom and Rolento,
obviously. They can also beat a whole bunch of the Mad Gear gang, but it's
important to remember that they did not fight through Final Fight alone and
also that it's wholly possible and likely that the SF universe follows the
laws of anime (IE, any generic bad guy is really weak and easy to beat up
by most any semi-important character), thus the fact that they can take out
most of the Mad Gear scrubs isn't a very good gauge, either. Guy, even
though he is a Bushin master, is still equal to Cody even during SFA3,
though, so we at least know they are on the same tier. But storyline-wise,
neither has ever really gone up against any of the really high tier Street
Fighter characters, so this is the best guess we can get to place them
unless more *comparative* info ever comes in. Actually, though, after
getting Juni's official power ratings that she scans in SFA3, I'm thinking
that Sodom, Rolento, Guy, and Cody are probably a lot higher than this.
Probably around Charlie's level during SFA3, actually. And... Cody being
below Hugo doesn't seem right.


Adon: Strong enough to beat Sagat in SFA2. Sagat may have been unfocused,
but he was still powerful. There aren't many other matches to use to tier
him with hard core certainty, but beating SFA2 Sagat and being the new Muy
Thai Emperor should be enough to give him this tier.


Sakura: She's better than Karin. It's officially stated that her chi
manipulation is equal to Ken's during SFA3. The girl's ridiculously gifted
and able to learn Ryu's moves just by watching him. If Sakura continued
training on and on after SFA3, she could really be something.
Unfortunately, since SFA3 was so incredibly long ago, and Sakura's future
still highly up in the air (highschool is really a bit too early in life to
get that hard a bead on one's future, I think), the tier can really only go
by her last seen position (unlike Sagat, where it's shown that he's still
in the game after SF2 and his determination to stay on level with Ryu is
further emphasized). Anyways, Chun-Li is the strongest woman in the world
so Sakura is below her, regardless. Oh, and judging from SFA3, she can
beat Honda, so she gets to be higher than him.


Balrog: Can kill an elephant with his bare hands. Generally among the top
fighters in Shadaloo (not sure if it was officially stated, though I think
it was... it's implied, at least) and thus higher than the Dolls. Oh, and
judging by SFA3, he beat Birdie. Probably weaker than Vega, so he
goes here.


Cammy: She's better than the other Dolls but weaker than Vega. ...wow,
that was easy.


Zangief: A bit hard to tier, but being implied to be Russia's greatest
warrior should account for something. He's better than R. Mika (it seems
he goes easy on her in SFA3 and all), and R. Mika is most likely better
than Dan, so Zangief gets to go here. On a random note, I have no clue
where Haggar (or any other Final Fight exclusive character, really) fits
in, here. Even Cody and Guy, who weren't exclusive to only Final Fight,
are hard to tier. Can't even decide whether or not Haggar is on Zangief's
level because the two never even met in person, after all, so there's no
interaction to use to compare


T. Hawk: He can beat (and most likely actually has beaten) the Doll
Noembelu. ...another easy one.


Dhalsim: Loses to Ryu (at least, implied by one of Ryu's SF3 win quotes).
A bit hard to tier, but he's been going around doing lots of good things
for the world and has that fire power granted by the gods and such. There
might be more that I should poke Saiki for, but overall, this is a pretty
good guess, I think. He retired from fighting after SF2, by the way.

Alex: Alex is better than all the other SF3 characters (besides heavy
hitters like Ryu and Oro, who he never had to fight) as can be seen by him
winning the SF3 tournament. However, he's still not really that high up
since Ryu beat him VERY easily in Third Strike. Thus he only gets to be a
tier higher than where the other SF3 characters go. He's below Hugo even
though they never fought because Hugo actually put up a fight against Ryu.

unrealman
Tier 6

All the characters listed have been stated to beat other skilled
people, even if none of them were actually non-nameless goons. Or...
something to that effect. The twelve Dolls are each stronger than each of
the other 2000 skilled martial artists in Shadaloo (They aren't called
elite for nothing), Rolento and Sodom rise above all generic Mad Gear
members to be bosses, Karin loses to Sakura but still puts up a good fight
so she's probably only a tier lower, Birdie fought hard enough to impress
Bison in order to join Shadaloo (and thus is also probably above the other
2000 skilled martial artists. Eh, he got to be playable and get a name
while they didn't :P)... Necro is implied due to all his genetically
enhanced abilities that probably give him an edge, and Dudley beat lots of
guys in his boxing career to earn money to buy his dads' things back.
Juni, however, might be higher due to her augmentation she developed from
scanning Akuma.


Tier 7: 'Grown-up' nobodies. Not much else to say. Well, E. Honda rose
to become a good sumo wrestler at least, but not sure if that says enough
for him. He beat Sodom in SFA2, but that's because Sodom was fighting as a
sumo wrestler and thus not using his primary fighting style, so...



Tier 8: 'Teeny-bopper' nobodies. Poor Yun, Yang, Makoto, and Elena just
don't have enough official statements implying their good abilities to go
higher. Er... no offense to these characters with the 'nobody' remarks, of
course.



Tier 9: Characters that Capcom of Japan just doesn't seem to like :P Well,
okay, Dan's probably weak on purpose.


Tier 10: Judging by where Capcom seems to be going with Sean, it seems
like he really IS weaker than Dan at this point. It's like a joke in
itself, almost. Almost like when Sean says "Hey, I'm not Dan!", he's
right. He's not Dan. He's worse! Even Dan doesn't get his ass kicked
THAT often in the official storyline. Sure, it was to Ryu and Ken, but the
only time Dan got his ass whupped as an ending joke was to cyber Akuma in a
VS game. Sean gets portrayed as getting kicked around a lot more than Dan,
even, so...

unrealman
Who are the most powerful Street Fighter characters?

Going by Capcom statements about how powerful certain characters
are, and also by who has defeated who in what battles and the circumstances
of each battle, we've put together a POSSIBLE tier list for the characters.
Remember, this FAQ goes by US names. Oh, and this is the character's most
present most state since they were last seen. So just because Ryu is on a
higher tier then Gen doesn't mean that Ryu was actually stronger than Gen
back during Alpha. It's Ryu in SF3 Third Strike that the list is
considering. This is why Ryu is as powerful as Evil Ryu, because by SF3,
Ryu has trained and focused his mind to the point where he's as powerful as
if he'd had given into the Satsu no Hadou, even though Evil Ryu was
initially more powerful than Ryu in the past (which is why Ryu had to
decide between giving into it to win or not, of course). I believe it's
also why Sagat is as powerful as M. Bison, because Sagat himself has
developed significantly over the course of Street Fighter as he got over
his anger.

shin_remy
a few things to say :

1. the info you gave is good, it is from a site that exicted long time ago, i had my info from it and it is the same info you gave, soo you probbaly have this info from a other side who CHANGED A FEW THINGS

2. there are faults it it, SFA 3 Bison belongs in Class 2 and Oro is added to class 1

3. Ken supposed to be higher, in class 2 but ken doesn't train mutch anymore cause he has an family and stuff soo he belongs just close in class 3 ( but that doesn't mean he can kick a few other dudes in class 2 ) wink

anyhow you gave good info !!! you know your stuff, a few faults but that isn't a big problem smile

Acrosurge
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
rofl... that looks like a gundam.. they need a new artist...
their older work with megaman in his X1 and X2 days had such good artwork.. it was partially the reason that made me wish to learn artwork

I only like Zero's newer armor.. with the skin tight black and red bulky armor.. thats cool I gotta disagree with you. The X1 and X2 artwork wasn't all that great. All the characters looked shrunken, yet still lacked the stylization that usually comes with the "SD" artstyle.

I do like Zero's armor design in the Mega Man: Zero. This is an example of a dynamic style that works.

Blue nocturne
Hey acrosurge post some info on forte and what is the energy source he uses is called in japanese I know it's called bassunium in english.

unrealman
here's my Mario fact for the day.

1st fact: Mario is strong enough to swing bowser and toss him in to lava. ( super mario 64)

Sonic x 20
Originally posted by unrealman
about the tiers

the tiers go by the character's most
present state since they were last seen. ( expection Sagat)


Tier 1 SF3 third strike akuma , Gill, SFA3 M.bison


Tier 2 SF 3 Third Strike Ryu, Evil Ryu, SF2 M.bison , Q , SF3 third strike Sagat


Tier 3 SFA 3 Rose , SFA 3 Charlie , SFA 3 Gen , SF3 third strike ken, Urien



Tier 4 SF2 Guile , SF3 third strike chun-li, Hugo , Sf2 vega , Twelve


Tier 5 SFA 3 Cody, SFA 3 Guy, SFA 3 Adon , SFA 3 Sakura , SF2 Balrog , SF2 Cammy , SF2 Zangief , SF2 T.Hawk , SF2 Dhalsim, Alex


Tier 6 SFA 3 Twelve Dolls , SFA 3 Rolento , SFA 3 Sodom , SFA 3 Karin , SFA 3 Birdie , Necro, Dudley


Tier 7 SF2 blanka, SF2 Fei Long , SF2 E.Honda

Tier 8 Makoto, Ibuki, Elena, Yun, Yang, Remy

Tier 9 SF2 Dee Jay, SFA 3 R. Mika, SFA 3 Dan

Tier 10 Sean

I feel that Cody and Guy should be in Tier Four because they can Defeat Hugo(Who is also Andore). I also Feel that Mike Haggar can Defeat Zangief as well since they seem to have similar Moves, but perform them differently than the other and have some different Attacks than the other.

unrealman
Bison as been show to use mind control to do the following'

1 corrupting the U.S military

2 uses his mind control to influence a court to dismiss him of all charges include the murder of Charlie.

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Hey acrosurge post some info on forte and what is the energy source he uses is called in japanese I know it's called bassunium in english. Here goes.

Dr. Wily constructed Bass/Forte after stumbling upon an energy source more powerful than any yet developed in the world (I don't know the Japanese name for this type of energy, but Fortenium might be a logical assumption). Bass was constructed to be Wily's most powerful robot, capable of copying abilities like Mega Man, but with even greater strength, faster speed, and more durability. Essentially, Bass was constructed to defeat Mega Man.

Though first part of a plot to win Mega Man's trust and gain access to Dr. Light's lab, Bass eventually turned on Rock and Light.

He's highly skilled in combat and has a burning desire to prove himself as the strongest robot ever created. He despises Mega Man, for somehow, Rock is the only robot he simply cannot best, despite his superior capabilities. Proto Man has suggested this is because Bass fights for selfish reasons, as opposed to Rock, who fights for those he cares for and for Justice. In either case, despite Bass's strength, he has not once defeated Mega Man.

Acrosurge
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Hey acrosurge post some info on forte and what is the energy source he uses is called in japanese I know it's called bassunium in english. Here goes.

Dr. Wily constructed Bass/Forte after stumbling upon an energy source more powerful than any yet developed in the world (I don't know the Japanese name for this type of energy, but Fortenium might be a logical assumption). Bass was constructed to be Wily's most powerful robot, capable of copying abilities like Mega Man, but with even greater strength, faster speed, and more durability. Essentially, Bass was constructed to defeat Mega Man.

Though first part of a plot to win Mega Man's trust and gain access to Dr. Light's lab, Bass eventually turned on Rock and Light.

He's highly skilled in combat and has a burning desire to prove himself as the strongest robot ever created. He despises Mega Man, for somehow, Rock is the only robot he simply cannot best, despite his superior capabilities. Proto Man has suggested this is because Bass fights for selfish reasons, as opposed to Rock, who fights for those he cares for and for Justice. In either case, despite Bass's strength, he has not once defeated Mega Man.

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unrealman
info on Guile

Street Fighter Alpha 3: Guile, an ace air force pilot, received an order
one day.... COMMANDER CHARLIE IS MISSING. FIND HIM AND BRING HIM BACK.
Guile was sent to get Charlie back, because Charlie had gone after Bison on
his own. Chun-Li tried to stop him, but Guile would have none of it. But
when he found Charlie, Charlie had just found M. Bison! There, Guile and
Charlie fought M. Bison, to force him to retreat . Guile realized of the corruption within the army,
himself, and decided to join Charlie and Chun-Li in bringing down
Shadowloo. It turned out that Guile's instinct was right, and the
bombardment of Shadowloo was called off due to Bison's tricks. With
Charlie, Guile blows up the Psycho Drive, but Bison attacked before they
could set the explosives and get out. Bison was about to kill Guile with a
psycho crusher, but then Charlie grabbed Bison out of it! Charlie
sacrifices himself to save Guile's life and hold Bison off while Guile
escapes and everything explodes. Left with Charlie's dog tag, Guile tells
Chun-Li that he still feels that Charlie is out there, somewhere
.


Street Fighter 2: Receiving a personal invitation from M. Bison, Guile
participated in the SF2 tournament hoping to avenge Charlie . He
makes his way to Bison, and fights him, then Bison remarks how Guile has
become stronger and actually asks Guile to finish him! However, Guile is
then approached by his wife and daughter, who plea with him to finally go
back to his family, saying that destroying Bison will not bring Charlie
back, but it could destroy Guile instead, by making him a murderor just
like Bison was. Guile realizes his love for his family and agrees. Back
home, living happily with his family, Guile remarks that he feels like he
has woken up from a long nightmare . Guile is
the most likely candidate for the one who reached the top and became Street
Fighter champion, due to the fact that his ending and the resolution to his
storyline is the only one which really relies heavily on him being the one
to beat Bison (Guile's family pleads with him to mostly spare Bison more
than actually come back, which makes Guile get over Charlie's death and
realize that his family is important to him). ...ironically, though Guile
spared M. Bison, Akuma kills Bison anyways :P

unrealman
During Guile's SF2 ending, M. Bison says something like, "Are you
Guile? You've become stronger." Therefore Bison and Guile must've fought
before, right? If you're wondering when they first fought (that is, if
you haven't assumed it already), it was during SFA3, right before Guile
and Charlie chased the fleeing Vega into his Shadaloo based and started
planting bombs.

Before he chose to participate in the SF2 tournament, Guile took
Bison to court and attempted to put him in jail. Unfortunately, the
court was under M. Bison's influence, Guile lost the case and Bison was
aquitted. I guess Bison bribed the court or something. Both the Dash
account and AAC however attest to Guile at one point putting Vega on
trial for murdering Nash. Vega most likely used his special talents
(psycho power) to get off scott-free, and that's why Guile wants his
head even more badly than Chun Li does. So badly that Guile abandons
everyone and everything close to him, especially his own military for
seeing their incompetance firsthand of what he calls the "justice of
the States" in his Dash account, going off to personally wipe Vega
from existence since that seems to be the only way to stop Vega now,
in the tournament.


Guile is another likely candidate for the SF2 championship (next to
Chun-Li), since his ending is the one which depends the most on him being
the one to beat Bison. All the others, storyline-wise, could have happened
whether those characters beat Bison or not.


Storyline wise, Charlie/Nash is the one that invented the Sonic Boom
and Flash Kick. He taught it to the other members of the army, but none of
them had mastered it by SFA3. Guile isn't even supposed to know how to do
it by SFA3, yet he has the moves anyway. According to Capcom, to make up
for this and make it clear that Nash was the superior one, this is why
Guile sucks so much in SFA3 (His sonic boom does like... a pixel of damage
Oo). Guile DOES tell Charlie "I'm not a hero like you, but I still can not
tolerate injustice" to show how much Guile himself considers Charlie to be
above him. Of course, though Capcom of Japan has officially stated they
made him suck on purpose for storyline reasons, it's probably more likely
that those guys in charge of balancing Guile in SFA3 just were smoking some
strong drugs while they were doing it or something and Capcom decided to
try to cover it up. Now if only they can come up with an explanation why
Thunder Hawk sucks so much in SFA3 compared to SF2...


Ya know, I'm wondering. Considering that Charlie was the one who
invented the sonic boom and flash kick, and Guile wasn't supposed to have
it in SFA3, and Charlie DIES in SFA3... How do you learn a move from
someone AFTER that someone who was teaching it dies? Strange strange
Capcom. Maybe Guile was taught it by Nash but only managed to learn to
do it consistently after Nash had died.

unrealman
Guile's daughter is Amy/Chris, and his wife is Jane/Julia. Two names
are given for each because their names are different in the American and
Japanese versions of Street Fighter, respectively. Guile has a pet dog
named Safu (or Sub/Surf), too. An interesting note is that Jane is Eliza's
sister. This means that after SF2 when Ken married Eliza, Guile and Ken
became brothers-in-law. Er... well, that's what is stated, at least,
although technically, someone's wife being a sister to someone else's wife
doesn't make those two brothers-in-law by the strictest definition of the
term. Storylinewise, Guile and Ken prefer not to talk about it though
because Guile doesn't like Ken since Ken is so brash and playboy-ish.

Of Julia and Eliza, Eliza is the younger sister.


Guile's daughter, Amy, and Dhalsim's son, Datta, are penpals since SF2
was made (which probably was made in part because Guile and Dhalsim are the
only ones with canon families at the time so Capcom decided to connect the
two... for fun or something). There's also an official art of Amy pwning
Datta in a play fight.


Guile's dog Safu is pals with the dog Shiro from Final Fight (the dog
in the Bay Area). This is from SF2 Dash. A really random fact. I guess
this means that Guile has visited Metro City before? This relationship
is even mentioned in All About Capcom. Random.


Guile's bio sometimes has his dislikes listed as "Natto given to him by
Ryu", which is odd. Though if he knows Ken, he probably knows Ryu, too.
Maybe Ryu sucks at cooking or something :P


Guile's fighting style is sometimes listed as "Martial Arts". It's
listed as Martial Arts in CvS1 as well. His fighting style is described
as a mixture of martial arts and wrestling in Street Fighter Eternal.


Guile's a member of/works for the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and
so was Charlie. Reportedly (unsure) Charlie was in charge of recruit training.

He smokes

unrealman
info on Charlie

Street Fighter Alpha 2: Charlie was pursuing M. Bison in order to thwart
his/Shadaloo's criminal activities (SFA2), but hadn't reached him yet. A
monkey wrench was thrown into his plans when one of his superiors had
caught on to Charlie's activities and sent him away to a weapons warehouse
in Frankfort Kentucky. Obviously this took place somewhere in between the
end of SFA2 and the beginning of SFA3. Eventually, Charlie escaped the
weapons warehouse. ...and yes, this is absolutely NOTHING like what
happened with Charlie in the game.


He studied physics in college.


Charlie found out about Shadaloo and started investigating them. One of
his superiors who was a member of Shadowloo noticed this, and sent Charlie
away to a weapons warehouse in the far country side hoping to stop Charlie
from finding anything more about Shadaloo. But Charlie didnt give up and
gathered more allies and many more weapons. Chunli found out where
Shadaloo was located, and decided to work together with Charlie. And in
order to get into his warehouse, she actually pretended to be his
girlfriend Oo ...it's too bad Capcom didn't show that in the games because
that's really interesting, I think.


One of the officials/superiors there was a scumbag or something. He
used the army's money for his own personal use and bought many illegal
airplanes, which is a serious crime. The superior framed Charlie and held
him responsible for the crime in order to discharge/fire him. Charlie
gathered the airplanes & weapons he found in the warehouse and fled.


Charlie was the previous winner of the USA martial arts tournaments
that Ken won.


Charlie's got perfect vision. He just wears glasses because he likes
them. Of course, not having good vision would prevent him from being a
pilot.

The Sonic Boom is actually created by using ki. Nash will concentrate
his ki into his hand, arm of whatever and thrusts it at a speed faster than
sound.

Nash smokes. In the SFA2 strategy guide there's a drawing of him with
a cigarette in his hand and in a color collage of the SF characters where
it looks like they're ripped up pieces of paper, he has a cigarette in his
mouth



In one official art, there is cigarette smoke coming from behind Nash,
where Guile is. We know that Nash is a smoker, and Guile from old arts, too.
They have a lot in common and we just recently heard that Guile doesn't like
healthy food so it would fit to his unhealthy livestyle. Also remember the
pic of Nash sitting in a bar. The two are the typical GI stereotypes who
smoke and drink in their free time.


He can shoot sonic booms from
any of his limbs, even his feet (something that Guile needs LOTS of
concentration to do. It takes Guile two hands and officially stated all
his focus just to throw one sonic boom).

Tallis
Respect Siegfried from Soul Calibur

http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/dragonsworld/shrine/sc3pics/16.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/dragonsworld/shrine/otherart/09.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/dragonsworld/shrine/otherart/16.jpg

shin_remy
Originally posted by Tallis
Respect Siegfried from Soul Calibur

http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/dragonsworld/shrine/sc3pics/16.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/dragonsworld/shrine/otherart/09.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/dragonsworld/shrine/otherart/16.jpg

what does he has to do with street fighter and megaman and stuff?? messed

(ps. Nightmare is cooler )

Tallis
Read the first post. It said any character which originated in a video game

unrealman
Gill's Bio

Gill's official TS bio:

Founded the secret society which has ruled the world since the pre-era
days of antiquity, master of the power of miracles.
Even with his younger brother Urien's trickery unyielding, his overwhelming
charisma holds the organization's complete agreement.
With the project for the realization of an ideal society 200 years ahead of
schedule, certainly now Gill reigns on earth as a divine emperor.



http://www.thefreedictionary.com/resurrection

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/resurrect

http://www.answers.com/topic/miracle

unrealman
Guile's Street fighter alpha 3 storyline

Street Fighter Alpha 3: Guile, an ace air force pilot, received an order
one day.... COMMANDER CHARLIE IS MISSING. FIND HIM AND BRING HIM BACK.
Guile was sent to get Charlie back, because Charlie had gone after Bison on
his own. Chun-Li tried to stop him, but Guile would have none of it. But
when he found Charlie, Charlie had just found M. Bison! There, Guile and
Charlie fought M. Bison, to force him to retreat . Guile realized of the corruption within the army,
himself, and decided to join Charlie and Chun-Li in bringing down
Shadowloo. It turned out that Guile's instinct was right, and the
bombardment of Shadowloo was called off due to Bison's tricks. With
Charlie, Guile blows up the Psycho Drive, but Bison attacked before they
could set the explosives and get out. Bison was about to kill Guile with a
psycho crusher, but then Charlie grabbed Bison out of it! Charlie
sacrifices himself to save Guile's life and hold Bison off while Guile
escapes and everything explodes. Left with Charlie's dog tag, Guile tells
Chun-Li that he still feels that Charlie is out there, somewhere
.

unrealman
Gill info

Gill became president of the 'secret organization' at 22 years old.

Gill enjoys learning, and is constantly trying to improve himself
both mentally and physically. He's very knowledgeable of countless
martial arts and hopes to obtain the ultimate fighting style.


There are 66 secret techniques of the Mysterious Organization,
including Resurrection. It's impossible to master all the fighting
techniques of the Mysterious Organization. Or at least, that's
what they say. Japanese fan sites say Gill is attempting to
learn them all, but haven't confirmed this.


The reason why it's said that no one can master all 66 fighting
techniques of the Illuminati organiziation, MAY be because since it
seems that even through the Illuminatis genetic engineering, only one
person can gain a maximum of three elemental abilities (fire, Ice,
and 'miracle' in Gill's case.) And the 66 techniques refer to every
element, making them impossible to learn by one person.


The reason Gill was elected president over Urien is 'cuz Urien was
considered emotionally unstable. Urien became vice president instead.

Gill's original character design had him keeping on the toga that he
throws off before the fight starts in the game. Capcom decided to change
it to that funky red and blue thong look for two reasons. They were
worried that the toga looked too much like a robe and thus made Gill look
too much like Jesus Christ (combined with the fact that Gill is a savior
and all), and also they thought the red and blue would be good for showing
off the new graphics engine that Street Fighter 3 used (Yea, a really
stupid reason, that one).


Gill was actually modelled after Greek gods, not Jesus Christ, though
Capcom figured out (and rightfully so, probably) that the public probably
wouldn't realize that, so, again, they changed him to that whole red blue
thong look.

Gill is aware of Urien's plot against him. However, Gill isn't too
concerned about it. He obviously isn't intimidated by Urien.

While Urien is the one that took it further to produce Twelve and co,
Gill is generally probably the one that started the G-Project and Necro,
since he talks to Necro so much like he knows him and wants to get rid of
Necro, himself, for being a failure.



Urien concepts

http://www.arcadeflyers.net/flyers/capcom/10016806.jpg

old street fighter 3 character concepts

http://www.arcadeflyers.net/flyers/capcom/10016606.jpg

unrealman
Game Mooks

http://geocities.com/aerialgroove/folders/variousinfofolder/gamestmookfolder/gamestmookpics/002.jpg

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unrealman
All About Books

http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/allaboutbooksfolder/allaboutbookspage.html

http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/secretfilesfolder/secretfilespage.html

shin_remy
eey guys check this movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m_Fjs_iGm4& amp;search=Videogames%20video%20games%20ryu%20scor
pion%20streetfighter%20street%20fighter

unrealman
Belial: the demon king

1 Split his daughter's soul in to three pieces. the first peice was seal off in a dimension he created and he sealed the second peice within himself.


2 He seals two out of his four arms to
contain his power.


3 His power is equal to several hundred A class Makai nobles
like Demitri.

Darkstalker Classes

1) Class S
They have the ability to rule Makai. The three high noble's of Makai
Belial Aensland
Galnan Voshtal
Jedah Dohma
Belial is classified as a S+ class and his far stronger than the other two
Morrigan was also born as an S class darkstalker


Class A
These are mainly the masters of the noble families of Makai.
They are called the 7 nobles of Makai and are always observing the
movements of the three high nobles.

Lepe family
present master: Persimmon de Lepe (male)
The Lord of the land that surrounds the volcano Gilala Gila. He is one of
the oldest families next to the Aensland family.

Maximoff family
present master: Demitri Maximoff (male)
A young ambitious noble who challenged Belial Aensland. He lost the battle
and was banished to the human world. He revived himself after 100 years.

Hartland family
present master: Gregorio Hartland (male)
He is the most handsome noble of Makai. He is served by women and leads a
life of joy and pleasure. Mejina is his female officer and an absolute servant.

Kreutz family
present master: Xell Kreutz (male)
He is a violent master who's family is opposed to the Hartland family. His
appearance is the least human looking.(A dragon with wings)

Drey family
present master: Taurus Drey (male?)
A collector in Makai, he has various items in collection. Hannya and Kien
were formerly in his possession.

Gilman family
present master: Sierra do Gilam (female)
A philosopher of Makai, she wrote many books like, "The beginning of
darkness", "Me and Makai", etc. She speaks 78 languages and is able to use
1,400 spells.

Funechika family
present master: Ed Funechika (male)
The current master of a group of martial artists. He is the holder of the
666th level in Makenpo. They hold so much respect for the mind that he lacks
actual battle skills.

*Emperor Ozom is ranked as a A+ class as well.

3) Class B+
They have special abilities and are stronger than the average citizen of
Makai. They are the warriors of Makai. These people would be called the
Darkstalkers. There are roughly 10,000 Makai warriors.

Most of the characters in the game are of this class

unrealman
Gouki sculpted the Four Deva Kings of Buddhism

Gouki actually once saved a kid that wandered into his SFA3 cave and
almost fell a cliff.

unrealman
Sagat begins to realize that the power of hatred is
limited, and that Dan is just like he is, filled with rage. He begins to
feel guilt for all the opponents he crushed in anger, which included Dan's
father, and that he needs something other than hatred. Realizing this, he
lets Dan win the match and feigns being knocked out when Dan hits him.

unrealman
Street fighter Japanese web sites

Street Fighter world

http://kei927.fc2web.com/

http://sapporo.cool.ne.jp/manservant/index.html

http://www2.inforyoma.or.jp/%7Ean18915b/

http://www.tans.org/translater.shtml

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/


http://www.japanese-kanji.org/

unrealman
Saiki said until SF2 Ryu and Ken's style was Kyokushinkai karate, a
derivative of Shotokan, that I learned is a full-contact style with
considerable focus on strenuous training and philosophy. After SF1 he said
Capcom changed it to a generic ansatsuken. Vasili feel that it wasn't until
SSF2X that this change occurred; he has yet to see any source break down
the style to its building blocks before the Fanbook, which lists karate,
judo, and training of the heart/mind; and AASFZ3 later on would describe
it even more. In any case, before Gouki appeared in Capcom's SF universe,
it was the basic moves themselves that defined Ryu and Ken's style, and
after that the emphasis was placed more on their three originally killing
moves as identifying their style, the present toned-down version of
Goutetsu's ansatsuken.

unrealman
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unrealman
before Gouki appeared in Capcom's SF universe,
it was the basic moves themselves that defined Ryu and Ken's style, and
after that the emphasis was placed more on their three originally killing
moves as identifying their style, the present toned-down version of
Goutetsu's ansatsuken.


Technically, Ansatsukan should probably be considered more a level of
achievement than an actual fighting style, then. In addition to all of the
above mentioned facts, it's stated in All About Capcom for Gen that "he has
developed his Chinese Kempo until it has reached the stage of being an
Ansatsukan". All this implies that Ansatsukan can consist of any martial
art and is more about the power you've developed your style to. ...Capcom
sure knows how to be confusing, sometimes.

Gouki's ansatsukan having karate, judo, and taekwondo is exact
statement from All About Street Fighter Zero 3.

Goutetsu spoke of the Shungokusatsu, not that he necessarily
taught it. Perhaps then it was Akuma who found it and Gouken
never knew it. Goutetsu also is stated to have described it as 'forbidden',
but he did teach the first step to it (satsu no hadou). Likely, it was
forbidden because it endangered the user as well. This also means
that maybe Goutetsu himself didn't develop the SGS but learned it from
his own master.

unrealman
http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=rikigalazy

unrealman
Ryu makes a little money as a martial arts instructor (using Gouken's
dojo) whenever he's in Japan. Occasionally, he'll make some money by
taking jobs that involve physical labor, which also serves as training.

unrealman
Dragon Force

madurk ( the evil god)

feats

1 Destroy the land of Izumo with only use a wave of his hand.

2 Totally Indestructible and can only beated by using the dragon force which only puts him in a deep sleep for 500 years.

Gaul normal mode ( in this mode Gaul has extremely powerful magic )

Gaul demon mode ( in this mode gaul has unlimited magic and the only thing that can hurt him is the dragon force.


Scythe normal mode ( in this mode Sycthe has really powerful magic)


Sycthe demon mode ( in this mode Sycthe has Ulimted magic and the only thing that can hurt her is the dragon force.


Goldark feats

1 can weild two Guts size blades like they were butter kifes and his skill with the sword is said to be unmatched.

http://www.planetemu.net/php/articles/files/Image/shenron/dragonforce/df82.jpg

unrealman
Zanon ( the sword Eclisis makes him almost indestructible by giving him Regenation that rivals even the hulk's regen. )


side effect: the Sword Eclisis is slowly taking possession of Zanon, gradually stripping him of his humanity.


Katmando demon mode ( he is extremely power and his Unlimited magic. It took Ramda who is the good side of madurk to sacrifice himself just so the dragon force could even hurt him.

Sonic x 20
Here's a Final Fight Website where it Talks about Mostly All you need to know About Final Fight's Top Originals Including the Martial Arts Expert Cody, the Bushin Ninja Guy, and the Big Man Himself who is a Former Pro-Wrestler and a Former Street Fighter Champion Mike Haggar. the Website also Includes Information about the Memebers of the Mad Gear Gang as well:

http://www.angelfire.com/film/swordandthesorcerer/final_fight/index3.html

Blue nocturne
Bump

unrealman
Here's the new tiers from plot guide 4.4

Tier 1

Tier 1: This tier should be obvious. Gill, especially, with his fire and
ice creation, angel powers, and his last boss towering status. Akuma
should be, too. By SF3, the guy can destroy mountains, islands, and stay
in deep ocean for crying out loud. And Oro beat Ryu in the SF3 tournament,
and that was despite being handicapped by binding his arm. The guy's
become powerful enough to live to 150 years or so... I won't go into a
deeper analysis due to how obvious this tier is. Who specifically is the
best among Gill, Oro, and Akuma is up in the air, but eh, tiers aren't
supposed to be THAT specific. Bison during SFA3 probably went into this
range, also. Being able to take on Ken and Sakura at the same time (only
forced to retreat due to Ryu coming to), then Rose, then all 13 Dolls, then
Guile, Chun-Li, and Charlie has got to say something.

Optional Character: Ingrid

Tier 2

SF2 M. Bison: Akuma can beat him in SF2. Whether Akuma could have beaten him
during SFA3 where he was stronger (and Akuma was most likely weaker), not
sure, but in his last state, he generally goes here from all KNOWN factual
evidence (unknown stuff like how he lost the SF2 tournament or even if he
DID since we don't know when Akuma killed him aren't being considered here
since... well, it's unknown). He's definately high up, though. His
weakened body wasn't weakened to the point where he'd really really plummet
in the tiers, and during Alpha 3 it took a rather ludicrous amount of
consecutive battles against multiple opponents to finally take him down.


Ryu: Seen by Oro as the one with the potential to be trained, generally
considered a legend (see Makoto's statements about him), whomped Alex
easily in Third Strike, only lost the SF3 tournament because he went up
against the godly Oro and even then impressed the old guy, etc etc. This
one should be pretty obvious.

Evil Ryu: A major point of Ryu's SFA3 storyline is that he could follow
the path to warrior perfection without giving in to the Satsu no Hadou.
Even though Evil Ryu was really high up back then, the reason regular Ryu
is on the same tier is due to Ryu's revelations since then. He has now
managed to reach what he could have been had he given in. Generally shown
by Ryu promptly telling Akuma that Satsu no Hadou is not the way in SF3.
Er... yea. It's mostly implied as far as I know, but the implications are
more than enough to place the two into this tier with enough certainty.

Sagat: Although he was too obsessed with revenge and unfocused during
Alpha, by the end of Alpha 3, he has realized the error of his ways and is
now on the path to the true warrior. All statements and storyline
implications from there on are that Sagat is matching Ryu step for step in
progress as they await their glorious battle, so it's really easy to tier
Sagat here. Note that this is Sagat in his most present state, not most
present state since when he was last seen in a game, since unlike other
characters, it's easy to estimate where Sagat is even without seeing him
due to all the statements and implications.

Q: Q is marked as 'hinted' because there's no way to really gauge his
tier, what with him having no interactions with anyone else in the
storyline. But he's robotic and can somehow zip around the world, and
those are typically always powerful, and the effects of his moves sure look
darn powerful. So as a guestimate, he gets to be in this tier. Though
again, it's mostly a guess.

unrealman
Tier 3

Rose: She's M. Bison lite. She's the only character in Alpha that was
actually able to give Bison a somewhat decent match one-on-one. But... she
still lost, so she's a tier lower. Rose could put up a fight against Alpha
Bison (well, actually, she WON in Alpha 2. Only 'lost' in Alpha 3) while
Chun-Li got owned for free in Alpha 2, and since there really isn't much to
indicate that Chun-Li improved THAT much since Alpha, Rose gets to be a
tier higher. Chun-Li only started being called the strongest woman in the
world since SF2, after Rose was gone.

Ken: Ryu states to Ken in SF3 that he still has the better win record.
But the way he says it indicates that it's still pretty close. Thus Ken
gets this tier. Pretty obvious, I think.

Gen: I think it's hard to decide whether he's in tier 2 or tier 3, but
he's definately up there. Gen was able to fight Akuma to a standstill in
Alpha, after all. He's definately not as good as the further trained Akuma
of SF3, though (Gen of course being most likely unable to further train
because he's most likely dead). I'd be really surprised if he (and thus
even Akuma during that time) was as strong as "I take on tons of people by
myself" SFA3 Bison, so... generally tier 3 for him. On a random note, Gen
uses ki in his attacks with lots of skill. It's just not as obvious as
Akuma (not all ki usage manifests as fireballs or something visual).
Although I'm on the fence on whether or not he should be in tier 2 or tier
3, I do lean towards tier 3 because any higher would make him on the same
level as Evil Ryu or current day Ryu, both of whom are likely beyond what
even Akuma used to expect back then (with Evil Ryu slaughtering everyone
Akuma included in his what-if SFA3 storyline) and SFA Akuma is roughly
on the same level as Gen, so... (of course, SF3 Akuma is a different
story)

Charlie: Charlie is the US Martial Arts champion. Took down Bison in
SFA3, albeit with a little help. What mainly puts him here with certainty
instead of circumstantiality though I believe is how he's better than Guile
(even SF2 Guile). Charlie's ki manipulation is implied to be right up
there with Ryu and other top-notch fighters. He can shoot sonic booms from
any of his limbs, even his feet (something that Guile needs LOTS of
concentration to do. It takes Guile two hands and officially stated all
his focus just to throw one sonic boom). Since Guile, at least based on
what we can think of, comes into the tier below, and Charlie is definately
above Guile, even without the circumstantial evidence, we can generally
place Charlie in this tier.

Urien: Like Gen, I'm personally not sure if he should be in Tier 2 or Tier
3, but he's up there. He's better than Chun-Li (he's only toying with her
in SF3 Third Strike after all) and definately lower than Gill (Gill doesn't
even have to take him seriously and his power compared to Urien's is one of
the many things Urien is jealous of, of course). Anyways, Urien's
abilities include earth and lightning manipulation and an iron body (as
part of his earth manipulation). He's blinded by jealousy, though. This
is why despite having power equal to Gill, he likely is weaker in actual
practice (less focused). I'm leaning towards tier 3 because it's hard for
me to imagine him as strong as the extremely focued SF3 Ryu, god-power or
not.

unrealman
Optional Characters

Cody: Going by Final Fight Streetwise and assuming Hugo is Andore, Cody
is probably better than Hugo given that Kyle says that Andore "is a legend,
himself" when implying a comparison to Cody but that Cody is still better.
Of course, Cody's knees are crap at the beginning of Streetwise but they're
healed by the end, so his fighting ability should be as good as ever.

Guy: He's probably equal to Cody. Kyle is confident enough to beat the
crap out of Guy's ninja group, Lou included, but Guy is able to convince
Kyle to seek a nonviolent solution with just a simple demonstration of
his punches. Also, Maki admits he's better in her SFA3 storyline and
it looks like Maki beat Sakura in it, which leads to Guy being here.

Haggar?: Unfortunately, it's hard to compare him to Zangief despite the
rivalry because they never met in person or fought or anything. There isn't
much to say that Haggar's on Cody's level, but Kyle idolizes Haggar a LOT,
moreso than Cody perhaps (but that does't mean Haggar's BETTER than Cody
because Kyle might simply not have the same type of idolism for Cody due to
being so familiar with Cody already). Of course, Haggar's getting pretty
darn old, but Capcom (of America) specifically said he managed to stay fit
all those years so I'm going to assume his power didn't deteriorate. Then
again, it's hard to imagine that Haggar improved as much over the years
as Guy did. Ah well, Haggar was at least assumably better than Hugo
during Final Fight and Kyle doesn't make any note that Andore could be
beyond him in Streetwise so whatever.

Stree wise Cammy?: The Streetwise instruction booklet indicates that pit-fighting
is a tiered profession. That is, you can "rise to the top" of that "brutal
profession". Of course, in the actual game itself, it doesn't matter what
order you fight anyone in, but presumably, with Cammy being the last
pit fighter you fight, she was also meant to be the strongest one (although
once again, in-game she really is kinda easy IMHO). By that logic, Cammy
would be above Hugo (who's a pit fighter fought earlier). Of course, then
you have to wonder whether Kyle beat her or not, which unlike Hugo can't
really be stated because she's an optional fight. And of course, this all
assumes that one is willing to read into Cammy being in Streetwise so
much when in all likelihood she's really there just because some Capcom
guy decided it'd be fun to have her in the game. And of course, for Cammy
to be up here would imply that she's better than the strongest woman
in the world, Chun-Li, which just goes to show that even for a more
regulated storyline when it comes to power ability like Street Fighter,
tiering isn't a very exact science. But of course (gee, I'm saying that
often), given that Streetwise takes place like, 8 years after SF3,
presumably Chun-Li herself would be more powerful by then, too.

Kyle?: By the end of the game, Cody says Kyle has grown into a fighter
worthy of his potential and he's proud of Kyle. So maybe Kyle has grown
enough to match his brother (and of course, Kyle beat Hugo earlier,
assuming he's Andore). Kyle "beat" Cody Death, although that doesn't
necessarily make him stronger than Cody because Cody Death was wrestling
with his own conscience throughout the fight (for the first round, he's
open to attack whenever he hits Kyle due to that). Of course, Guy seems
to be portrayed as a bit better than Kyle (making Kyle glad he's on his
side and also being powerful enough to convince Kyle not to even bother
trying to fight him after beating all his men), so maybe Kyle would be
either at the bottom of this tier or near the top of the next one.


Tier 4

Guile: Most likely winner of the SF2 tournament. If you decide to ignore
that, then there's also the way in how he's storyline-wise more interwoven
and more 'important' than most of the other SF2 characters, and they
typically get favored in the storyline power tiers. And I believe he's
meant to be the same power as Chun-Li, but I forget^^; Whatever the case,
he's been training really hard since SFA3, though Charlie in SFA3 was still
most likely better than him (see Charlie in Tier 3 for reasons). He isn't
progressing any more because he gave up fighting after SF2 to be a family
man.

Chun-Li: Weaker than Rose but after Rose died then come SF2, is called the
strongest woman in the world, thus gets to be above the other female
characters in the next tier. That was easy. ...er, going further, Chun-Li
isn't any higher because she quit the ICPO and generally retired from
fighting and training after SF2 (course, after SF3, she trains OTHERS, but
that's another story). Anyways, Capcom has stated that she's the strongest
woman in the world during SF2, so it's not just the opinion of the SF
tournament audience (or whatever) that she is.

Hugo: Actually rather surprising he's up here, but all the facts point to
it. Hugo is officially stated to have withstood the shin shoryuken against
Ryu, which is officially stated to be one of the most powerful moves in the
world, so right there you know he's a really strong guy. He is also
officially stated to have made 'an amazing performance' in the SF3
tournament, which probably means he's generally above the majority of the
SF3 characters (unconfirmed: he possibly lost the tournament due to going up
against Ryu). Oh, and to those who think Hugo is all stamina and nothing else,
I highly doubt he would have been stated to have made an amazing performance
if he didn't at least put up a somewhat decent fight. So no,
he's not just a big punching bag with lots of endurance. As for who is
better, Hugo or Alex, well, Hugo withstanding the shin shoryuken means that
he probably put up a better fight against Ryu than Alex did. He withstood
an attack that officially could kill someone (Yea, Ryu's style isn't
designed to kill, but that doesn't mean it can't kill due to the sheer
damage alone) compared to Alex, who Ryu didn't even break a sweat fighting
against. That would probably earn him a tier spot higher. Ryu still beat
him somewhat soundly, though, so he's definately not up in Ken's tier.
Note, though, that many of these tiers are at best, educated guesses and
estimates. Maybe Alex made a huge comeback after Ryu was beating him (the
fight wasn't completely finished in Alex's TS ending) but from all
available evidence, this is the best that can be estimated. Also note
that I was told that Hugo officially withstood the Shin Shoryuken, but
finding this statement has been rather difficult (it's supposedly in
an Arcadia or Gamest issue, but which one is unknown). In Final Fight
Streetwise, Andore might be "just" a pit fighter, but Kyle comments in
his journal that Andore is a legend, himself, so he's still pretty darn
powerful there (assuming Hugo is Andore).

Rolento and Sodom: Saiki put them much lower, but I'm going to assume
they're only slightly below Cody and Guy, of whom I think are much higher
than Saiki placed them. Juni also gave them high ratings. Dunno whether
or not they'd be on equal footing with the improved SF3 Hugo though who
gets almost a decade advantage due to being in SFA3 (and Final Fight
Streetwise, but that's possibly counteracted by his age in that game).
Possibly as of their last appearance (SFA3), they'd only be Tier 5 instead
of 4? Sodom loses to E. Honda assumedly in SFA2, but Juni indicates that
he's significantly weaker when unarmed (this position is assuming he's
armed)

Vega: Cammy's love-hate rival is generally better than her, and almost
positively let her win in their fight in SFA3. Therefore, Vega's a tier
higher than Cammy. Easy. He's also a better fighter within Shadaloo than
Balrog, I believe (not sure if it was officially stated. I think it was,
but I forget). He doesn't go any higher because that would place him on
Gen's level, which seems pretty darn silly. Capcom doesn't go around
praising his ability like they do for Charlie. Course... a harder more
definitive proof might just be simply that Rose beats him in A3. He
seems around the same ability as Chun-Li, given the rivalry
Capcom initially endorsed between them (where Vega was jealous of Chun-Li's
beauty). Of course, I guess they decided Cammy was a better match later
on.

Twelve: Again, there's lack of storyline interaction. But Twelve
officially feels no pain, and he can morph into other characters, so he's
probably up there somewhere. He's at least tier 5, because all lab reports
from Gill's organization indicate that he should be superior to Necro in
every way (not that that means it's fact, but it's the best thing to go by
so far. Course, you never know how far 'spirit' could go, I suppose).

Maki: Assuming her SFA3 storyline is canon, she beats Sakura in her
storyline and is also likely one tier below Guy, beating Guy in her
storyline but admitting that Guy was better anyways (so it's sorta like
Karin's SFA3 storyline where she admits Sakura was better).

unrealman
Tier 5. Everyone else who managed to cut it.

Saiki's Guy & Cody: Hard to tier, IMHO. They can beat Sodom and Rolento,
obviously. They can also beat a whole bunch of the Mad Gear gang, but it's
important to remember that they did not fight through Final Fight alone and
also that it's wholly possible and likely that the SF universe follows the
laws of anime (IE, any generic bad guy is really weak and easy to beat up
by most any semi-important character), thus the fact that they can take out
most of the Mad Gear scrubs isn't a very good gauge, either. Guy, even
though he is a Bushin master, is still equal to Cody even during SFA3,
though, so we at least know they are on the same tier. But storyline-wise,
neither has ever really gone up against any of the really high tier Street
Fighter characters, so this is the best guess we can get to place them
unless more *comparative* info ever comes in. Actually, though, after
getting Juni's official power ratings that she scans in SFA3, I'm thinking
that Sodom, Rolento, Guy, and Cody are probably a lot higher than this.
Probably around Charlie's level during SFA3, actually. And... Cody being
below Hugo doesn't seem right. Saiki places Guy and Cody in this tier,
but I think they should probably be higher. Of note is that Juni can't
get an accurate power measurement of either, as Guy's Bushinryu is too
mysterious and Cody's power is dependent on his emotions.

Adon: Strong enough to beat Sagat in SFA2. Sagat may have been unfocused,
but he was still powerful. There aren't many other matches to use to tier
him with hard core certainty, but beating SFA2 Sagat and being the new Muy
Thai Emperor should be enough to give him this tier.

Sakura: She's better than Karin. It's officially stated that her chi
manipulation is equal to Ken's during SFA3. The girl's ridiculously gifted
and able to learn Ryu's moves just by watching him. If Sakura continued
training on and on after SFA3, she could really be something.
Unfortunately, since SFA3 was so incredibly long ago, and Sakura's future
still highly up in the air (highschool is really a bit too early in life to
get that hard a bead on one's future, I think), the tier can really only go
by her last seen position (unlike Sagat, where it's shown that he's still
in the game after SF2 and his determination to stay on level with Ryu is
further emphasized). Anyways, Chun-Li is the strongest woman in the world
so Sakura is below her, regardless. Oh, and judging from SFA3, she can
beat Honda, so she gets to be higher than him.

Balrog: Can kill an elephant with his bare hands. Generally among the top
fighters in Shadaloo (not sure if it was officially stated, though I think
it was... it's implied, at least) and thus higher than the Dolls. Oh, and
judging by SFA3, he beat Birdie. Probably weaker than Vega, so here he
goes. Even if he's an idiot, he's still armed with 'the world's strongest
punches'...

Cammy: She's better than the other Dolls but weaker than Vega. ...wow,
that was easy.

Zangief: A bit hard to tier, but being implied to be Russia's greatest
warrior should account for something. He's better than R. Mika (it seems
he goes easy on her in SFA3 and all), and R. Mika is most likely better
than Dan, so Zangief gets to go here. On a random note, I have no clue
where Haggar (or any other Final Fight exclusive character, really) fits
in, here. Even Cody and Guy, who weren't exclusive to only Final Fight,
are hard to tier. Can't even decide whether or not Haggar is on Zangief's
level because the two never even met in person, after all, so there's no
interaction to use to compare.

T. Hawk: He can beat (and most likely actually has beaten) the Doll
Noembelu. ...another easy one.

Dhalsim: Loses to Ryu (at least, implied by one of Ryu's SF3 win quotes).
A bit hard to tier, but he's been going around doing lots of good things
for the world and has that fire power granted by the gods and such. There
might be more that I should poke Saiki for, but overall, this is a pretty
good guess, I think. He retired from fighting after SF2, by the way.

Alex: Alex is better than all the other SF3 characters (besides heavy
hitters like Ryu and Oro, who he never had to fight) as can be seen by him
winning the SF3 tournament. However, he's still not really that high up
since Ryu beat him VERY easily in Third Strike. Thus he only gets to be a
tier higher than where the other SF3 characters go. He's below Hugo even
though they never fought because Hugo actually put up a fight against Ryu.

Eagle: His SFA3 storyline seems to put him on the same level as Guile
at the very least. However, assumedly Guile has improved significantly
by SF2, so Eagle during SFA3 would be below Guile during SF2 and thus
Eagle's latest appearance goes here.


Tier 6: The extras

Basically everyone else but Dan and generic Shadaloo soldiers (who are
officially stated to be skilled but weaker than the Dolls) go here. Hard
to tier among them exactly mainly due to lack of existance of factual
*comparative* data for a large majority of them. At any rate, though,
they're definately weaker than everyone else above them. Karin loses to
Sakura, the Dolls lose to Rose, Cammy, and T. Hawk, E. Honda loses to
Sakura, every SF3 character not above this tier loses to Alex or Hugo,
etc. Moving along, good reasons for guestimates from here on IMHO are...

Tier 6: All the characters listed have been stated to beat other skilled
people, even if none of them were actually non-nameless goons. Or...
something to that effect. The twelve Dolls are each stronger than each of
the other 2000 skilled martial artists in Shadaloo (They aren't called
elite for nothing), Rolento and Sodom rise above all generic Mad Gear
members to be bosses, Karin loses to Sakura but still puts up a good fight
so she's probably only a tier lower, Birdie fought hard enough to impress
Bison in order to join Shadaloo (and thus is also probably above the other
2000 skilled martial artists. Eh, he got to be playable and get a name
while they didn't :P)... Necro is implied due to all his genetically
enhanced abilities that probably give him an edge, and Dudley beat lots of
guys in his boxing career to earn money to buy his dads' things back.
Juni, however, might be higher due to her augmentation she developed from
scanning Akuma.

unrealman
Tier 7: 'Grown-up' nobodies. Not much else to say. Well, E. Honda rose
to become a good sumo wrestler at least, but not sure if that says enough
for him. He beat Sodom in SFA2, but that's because Sodom was fighting as a
sumo wrestler and thus not using his primary fighting style, so... (frankly,
by now things become so blurred that these guys could probably go into tier
6, anyways)

Tier 8: 'Teeny-bopper' nobodies. Poor Yun, Yang, Makoto, and Elena just
don't have enough official statements implying their good abilities to go
higher. Er... no offense to these characters with the 'nobody' remarks, of
course. They're probably really skilled for their age.

Tier 9: Characters that Capcom of Japan just doesn't seem to like :P Well,
okay, Dan's probably weak on purpose. As with the other really low tiers
(with the exception of Dan and Sean), lack of evidence either way shows
that these guys could possibly be all the way up in Tier 6 as well. R. Mika
impressed Karin in her storyline (that apparently did happen in some
form), after all.

Tier 10: Judging by where Capcom seems to be going with Sean, it seems
like he really IS weaker than Dan at this point. It's like a joke in
itself, almost. Almost like when Sean says "Hey, I'm not Dan!", he's
right. He's not Dan. He's worse! Even Dan doesn't get his ass kicked
THAT often in the official storyline. Sure, it was to Ryu and Ken, but the
only time Dan got his ass whupped as an ending joke was to cyber Akuma in a
VS game. Sean gets portrayed as getting kicked around a lot more than Dan,
even, so...


Tier 1

Akuma, Gill, Oro, SFA3 Bison, Ingrid - the strongest out of the
SFer's. They outclass everyone. These guys are in the godly range (in
some cases like Ingrid, literally).
Tier 2
SF2 M. Bison, Sagat, Ryu, Satsui no Ryu (Evil Ryu), Q(hinted) - the next
bunch
Tier 3
Ken, Gen (and SFA Akuma), Rose, Charlie, Urien, Cody, Guy, Cammy? (FFmessedW),
Kyle?, Haggar?
Tier 4
Guile, Chun-Li, Hugo, Sodom, Rolento, Vega, Twelve (hinted), Maki
Tier 5
Adon, Sakura, Balrog, Cammy, Zangief, Dhalsim, T Hawk, Alex, Eagle
(Saiki places Cody and Guy here, but I think they should go higher)
Tier 6
Everyone else but Tier 7 (things get really sloppy here, due to how most
characters below tier 5 do not have enough storyline info to tier on
noncircumstantial evidence). A pretty good guess, I think, would be this
(consider the rest of the characters in this tier and below to just be
hinted)
Tier 6
The Twelve Dolls, Karin, Birdie, Necro, Dudley
(Saiki places Rolento and Sodom here, but I think they should go higher)
Tier 7
Blanka, Fei Long, Honda
Tier 8
Makoto, Ibuki, Elena, Yun, Yang, Remy?
Tier 9
Dee Jay, R. Mika, Dan
Tier 10
Sean


New info on cammy from SFAA

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173&page=255

Ritoshi
Super Saiyan Bump!

Emperor Ashtar
Bump.

Emperor Ashtar
1. . . 2. . .3 BUMP!!

shin_remy
some canon info

Ken
A long time ago, officially, Ken used to not have a last name at all.
But when the action figure Ken came out, Mattel (makers of Barbie dolls)
sued Capcom for copyright infringement because Barbie's boyfriend is named
Ken, so Capcom had to make up an official last name for their own Ken in
order to differentiate Ken from Barbie's boyfriend. :P

Ken has most likely actually fought Akuma before or something. In SF3
Second Impact when you fight Shin Akuma with Ken (but only in the Japanese
version. Capcom USA cut out all the dialogues with Shin Akuma in the US
version-_-), Ken remarks, "You're still alive!?" then Akuma asks Ken to
show him that burning fist "once more". But... the only time that Ken
really could possibly have run into Akuma was back when he was witnessing
Akuma kill his master, since there aren't any other known storyline times
that the two would have fought. Most likely, Ken tried to interupt the
battle to save his master or so (which would be why Ken is still alive,
since Akuma would possibly spare him if it wasn't an actual challenge and
just Ken recklessly trying to save someone else). Well, on a
side-but-possibly-related-note, Akuma's dialogue to Ken in CvS2 indicates
that Akuma doesn't really take Ken very seriously, which would explain why
he didn't kill Ken (course, it could be just that Akuma didn't care to be
bothered with killing someone trying to intercede to save their master
instead of challenging Akuma to a deathmatch).

Ryu
Ryu dislikes spiders because one night while hiking, he took up camp
and went to sleep, and the next day woke up with a spider in his mouth Oo
This happens to campers often, I hear.

Ryu's full name is NOT Ryu Hoshii. That's from the Street Fighter Live

During the time of Ryu's training, as he tempered his form day in and
day out, he was being watched -- by the daughter of his master. But
thickheaded Ryu didn't understand girls' feelings, and so time passed
with nothing happening between them. Some time later, in order to take
revenge on the person who slew his master, Ryu set off on a journey
in search of those stronger than himself. On the day they parted, Ryu
realized her true feelings for the first time. On the pretext of a
token for his journey, she handed him a red headband. It was without
a doubt, her heartfelt confession . He hasn't been without that headband, even for a moment -- even
today, as ryu the brave fighter hurls his body into the field of battle.


The story itself is null and void today, at least for the red headband,
but the feelings Ojou-san (Gouken's daughter) displayed in the Fanbook's
manga story with Ryu are confirmed to be official.

So the red headband is NOT from Ken


(Evil Ryu is never named "Evil Ryu" in the Japanese versions of the
games, just "Ryu". Another proof that Capcom USA invented the "Evil" part

Blanka
respect blanka

Coleman Trebor
I hate Blanka no expression

Blanka
Originally posted by Coleman Trebor
I hate Blanka no expression shifty which one

Coleman Trebor
Both no expression

nah, Im just messing with you, I dont hate either.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by shin_remy
some canon info

Ken
A long time ago, officially, Ken used to not have a last name at all.
But when the action figure Ken came out, Mattel (makers of Barbie dolls)
sued Capcom for copyright infringement because Barbie's boyfriend is named
Ken, so Capcom had to make up an official last name for their own Ken in
order to differentiate Ken from Barbie's boyfriend. :P

Ken has most likely actually fought Akuma before or something. In SF3
Second Impact when you fight Shin Akuma with Ken (but only in the Japanese
version. Capcom USA cut out all the dialogues with Shin Akuma in the US
version-_-), Ken remarks, "You're still alive!?" then Akuma asks Ken to
show him that burning fist "once more". But... the only time that Ken
really could possibly have run into Akuma was back when he was witnessing
Akuma kill his master, since there aren't any other known storyline times
that the two would have fought. Most likely, Ken tried to interupt the
battle to save his master or so (which would be why Ken is still alive,
since Akuma would possibly spare him if it wasn't an actual challenge and
just Ken recklessly trying to save someone else). Well, on a
side-but-possibly-related-note, Akuma's dialogue to Ken in CvS2 indicates
that Akuma doesn't really take Ken very seriously, which would explain why
he didn't kill Ken (course, it could be just that Akuma didn't care to be
bothered with killing someone trying to intercede to save their master
instead of challenging Akuma to a deathmatch).

Ryu
Ryu dislikes spiders because one night while hiking, he took up camp
and went to sleep, and the next day woke up with a spider in his mouth Oo
This happens to campers often, I hear.

Ryu's full name is NOT Ryu Hoshii. That's from the Street Fighter Live

During the time of Ryu's training, as he tempered his form day in and
day out, he was being watched -- by the daughter of his master. But
thickheaded Ryu didn't understand girls' feelings, and so time passed
with nothing happening between them. Some time later, in order to take
revenge on the person who slew his master, Ryu set off on a journey
in search of those stronger than himself. On the day they parted, Ryu
realized her true feelings for the first time. On the pretext of a
token for his journey, she handed him a red headband. It was without
a doubt, her heartfelt confession . He hasn't been without that headband, even for a moment -- even
today, as ryu the brave fighter hurls his body into the field of battle.


The story itself is null and void today, at least for the red headband,
but the feelings Ojou-san (Gouken's daughter) displayed in the Fanbook's
manga story with Ryu are confirmed to be official.

So the red headband is NOT from Ken


(Evil Ryu is never named "Evil Ryu" in the Japanese versions of the
games, just "Ryu". Another proof that Capcom USA invented the "Evil" part Is that the secret canon you've been talking about, the same canon that several people have been using. your funny remy.

shin_remy
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6416/nakahira01md9.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3638/nakahira02pa4.jpg

The-Judge

The-Judge
this is link

The-Judge
now, all you people, do you still think that sf-characters can beat link?wink ryu is good and all, very good, but this is link...

Coleman Trebor
Actually I do think he can.

The-Judge
have you readen the long post i maked about link??

Coleman Trebor
Entire thing, and I agree thats it quite impressive, hoever I don't think Link can beat Ryu. It wouldbe close though.

The only reason I could see Link beating Ryu is because of his various magical powerups, I.E. invinceability and healing.

The-Judge
thats my opinion of their statistics...:

STRENGHT:
LINK: ----------
RYU: ----------
STAMINA:
LINK: ------------------------------
RYU: ----
SPEED:
LINK: --------
RYU: ------------------
SMART:
LINK: --------
RYU: --------
SPECIAL TRUMPHS:
LINK: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
RYU: ---------------

thats why i think link wins... i dont see ryu doing much damage to him, a being superior in strenght... his speed to move is greater than links, but link slashes without loading time and ryu cant dodge a sword like bullets...

shin_remy
wtf is this doing in '' Respect Street Fighter,Mega Man,MGS, Other''

The-Judge
respecting legend of zeldabig grin they have great warriorsbig grin

ganondorf cant be hurt by other things than msword and larrow, and you know linkwink

Emperor Ashtar
Finally found it, bump

IceJaw
Originally posted by Blaxican
I hate Blanka no expression

Blanka
Originally posted by Blanka
shifty which one

Emperor Ashtar
The green one.

Emperor Ashtar
Bumping for refrence.

King Nothing
I hate Link and all his Nintendo buddies. He sucks along with every other Nintendo character. I also hate Metal Gear Solid. They are far to overrated and not just in this forum, but every where

SF and Mega Man are O.K., they aren't really overrated, they are just recognized.

Now Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Soul Calibur, Rival Schools, and Jet Set Radio are the best to me.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by King Nothing
I hate Link and all his Nintendo buddies. He sucks along with every other Nintendo character. I also hate Metal Gear Solid. They are far to overrated and not just in this forum, but every where

SF and Mega Man are O.K., they aren't really overrated, they are just recognized.

Now Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Soul Calibur, Rival Schools, and Jet Set Radio are the best to me.

That's one hell of a rant, and mario overrated? confused

Remulous
Originally posted by King Nothing
I hate Link and all his Nintendo buddies. He sucks along with every other Nintendo character. I also hate Metal Gear Solid. They are far to overrated and not just in this forum, but every where

SF and Mega Man are O.K., they aren't really overrated, they are just recognized.

Now Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Soul Calibur, Rival Schools, and Jet Set Radio are the best to me. I almost totally agree.

I hate all that stuff too, except Link, but for some reason I don't like him as much anymore

NOW, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry are O.K.

SF, KOF, DarkStalkers Rival Schools, MVC, Samurai Showdown, Fatal Fury and Jet Set Radio are the SHIZNITE!!!

jugment-hand
i despise mario, and most other nintendo stuff, the wii has spawned the devil, in fanboy form, i love most 360 stuff, and about half the ps3 stuff(TEKKEN)

brainchild81
The only thing I don't like about Nintendo is that they refuse to grow up. Being the only guys w/out a GTA proved that. Tekken 5big grinR on PS3 is the best.Originally posted by Remulous
I almost totally agree.

I hate all that stuff too, except Link, but for some reason I don't like him as much anymore

NOW, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry are O.K.

SF, KOF, DarkStalkers Rival Schools, MVC, Samurai Showdown, Fatal Fury and Jet Set Radio are the SHIZNITE!!! You ever played Project Justice?

This is the greatest video ever SF Korea evil face

Lana
I forgot this thing existed...

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