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Not sure about this. The new Herald of Galactus Surfer would take a majority against Orion, but I'm not sure how he or Thor would do against Takion. I need to know a bit more about Thor's current levels before I make a decision.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Not sure about this. The new Herald of Galactus Surfer would take a majority against Orion, but I'm not sure how he or Thor would do against Takion. I need to know a bit more about Thor's current levels before I make a decision.

More than likely, Takion would block Silver Surfer from making a move against Orion. Orion would go after Thor.

Seems as if a post that puts two even DC characters against two Marvel Characters doesn't get alot of response. Is this forum Marvel Biased? I see threads that actually have Wolverine against Superman like that makes sense at all.

Orion would put a smack down on Thor the likes Thor has never experienced. and Takion would show The Silver Surfer what it feels like to fight a being who is Godly, magical, and cosmic, all at the same time.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Seems as if a post that puts two even DC characters against two Marvel Characters doesn't get alot of response. Is this forum Marvel Biased? I see threads that actually have Wolverine against Superman like that makes sense at all.

Orion would put a smack down on Thor the likes Thor has never experienced. and Takion would show The Silver Surfer what it feels like to fight a being who is Godly, magical, and cosmic, all at the same time.

*laughs* Judging by your post, you seem a bit DC biased.

Not to mention, even if you WERE right, this would be spite.

However, I feel you are severly underestimating Thor and the Surfer here.

from what i'd know of him Takion would beat SS and Thor alone. he'd be able to dampen the power cosmic in SS and/or manipulate for himself. Basically, he'd turn his own power against him. He easily beat GL, CA, and Flash. he's the new Highfather. and Thor wouldn't be able to do anything to him. anything he did he'd be able to counter.

Originally posted by Soljer
*laughs* Judging by your post, you seem a bit DC biased.

Not to mention, even if you WERE right, this would be spite.

However, I feel you are severly underestimating Thor and the Surfer here.


I dont' under estimate Thor and Silver Surfer. Together, They can deliver a hell of a one two punch. But Against Orion and Takion. They would have met thier match or maybe even thier Betters.

Takion is definitely better than SS. he's skyfather level easy. hed solo it.

I know nothing about takion

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Takion is definitely better than SS. he's skyfather level easy. hed solo it.

Takion is a bit stronger than Sky Father right? I thought Surfer was too. Surfer had the nerve to even super cede Odin's wishes and Synthetically enhance the Odin Force with the power cosmic. If Dc could get thier Super heads out of thier butts and give thier other cool characters some page time, they might actually be as cool as Marvel.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I know nothing about takion

Takion can Beat The entire Avengers By himself if he liked.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Takion can Beat The entire Avengers By himself if he liked. That's not an effective bit of convincing, my friend. However, I've done a bit of research on Takion. He seems to be a Highfather level guy (though not Skyfather or Odin level). He and Orion should be able to take a majority over Thor and Surfer.

highfather is at least skyfather level of power. all of the quintessence are.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
highfather is at least skyfather level of power. all of the quintessence are. Pretty much

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Takion is a bit stronger than Sky Father right? I thought Surfer was too. Surfer had the nerve to even super cede Odin's wishes and Synthetically enhance the Odin Force with the power cosmic. If Dc could get thier Super heads out of thier butts and give thier other cool characters some page time, they might actually be as cool as Marvel.

DC skyfathers are nothing compared to Marvel skyfathers, particularly Odin. Surfer teamed up with Thanos against Odin and got utterly creamed. Takion is just a surfer clone and chances are they are not that different in power. Orion is meant to be a counter to Thor but Thor's powers are not dependent on machines or a hammer. If Takion is able to stalemate Surfer (maybe, maybe not), then Thor destroys Orions machines, electrocutes him and crushes his skull, and finally, one shot's Takion, who while concentrating fully on fighting off the Surfer is unable to evade, with the hammer.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
DC skyfathers are nothing compared to Marvel skyfathers, particularly Odin.
I lol'd. Odin is the only Marvel skyfather worth his salt.

Neither Thor or Surfer has a chance in hell of one shotting Takion.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
DC skyfathers are nothing compared to Marvel skyfathers, particularly Odin. Surfer teamed up with Thanos against Odin and got utterly creamed. Takion is just a surfer clone and chances are they are not that different in power. Orion is meant to be a counter to Thor but Thor's powers are not dependent on machines or a hammer. If Takion is able to stalemate Surfer (maybe, maybe not), then Thor destroys Orions machines, electrocutes him and crushes his skull, and finally, one shot's Takion, who while concentrating fully on fighting off the Surfer is unable to evade, with the hammer.

MOther Box cannot be destroyed, and Orion is stated to only get exausted after weeks of battling Darkseid and Kalibak. Thor is not on thier lvl. At least not Darksieds. You really dont' know much about Takion or Orion. SO maybe you should let those of us who do debate this one ok.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
MOther Box cannot be destroyed, and Orion is stated to only get exausted after weeks of battling Darkseid and Kalibak. Thor is not on thier lvl. At least not Darksieds. You really dont' know much about Takion or Orion. SO maybe you should let those of us who do debate this one ok.

Motherbox cannot be destroyed by who? Can the beyonder destroy motherbox? As for Takion, he is just a surfer clone. Surely you acknowledge this. As for DC skyfathers, they have never been shown to be anything more than chumps. Even mighty Darkseid gets banged up by Superman on a regular basis.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Motherbox cannot be destroyed by who? Can the beyonder destroy motherbox? As for Takion, he is just a surfer clone. Surely you acknowledge this. As for DC skyfathers, they have never been shown to be anything more than chumps. Even mighty Darkseid gets banged up by Superman on a regular basis.

DC is now in a state of Continuity revamp. I'm betting Superman hasn't beaten anything more than a Darkseid avatar. ANd yes, Dc's Sky Fathers are very powerful indeed. Zues's fellow gods made WW and she is as powerful as Thor. Zues is far beyond thor or WW. Shazam created CM and he is close to Mordru in power. HighFather is the very embodiment of all highfathers and it is even stated that the very least of new genesis is higher than the very highest of any of the other Pantheons. Takion's origins and powers are so differnt from Surfer. But one could say that Sentry or Gladiator are Superman Clones. it's all up to personal interpretation.

Takion is far above anything SS is.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
DC skyfathers are nothing compared to Marvel skyfathers, particularly Odin. Surfer teamed up with Thanos against Odin and got utterly creamed. Takion is just a surfer clone and chances are they are not that different in power. Orion is meant to be a counter to Thor but Thor's powers are not dependent on machines or a hammer. If Takion is able to stalemate Surfer (maybe, maybe not), then Thor destroys Orions machines, electrocutes him and crushes his skull, and finally, one shot's Takion, who while concentrating fully on fighting off the Surfer is unable to evade, with the hammer.

Pfffffffffffffffft. What a joke!

Are we talking RKThor here?

Originally posted by Rols
Are we talking RKThor here? i guess, it hasnt been stated, so ts current forms.

Hmmm.. Takion Vs RKThor/current SS
Could see this guys having a few wins..

Originally posted by Rols
Hmmm.. Takion Vs RKThor/current SS
Could see this guys having a few wins.. rkt, im pretty sure would destroy takion.

Thats up for debate. The Source vs Odin power/ Power Cosmic.

Takion would defeat RKT....the odin power is not stronger then the source, besides feat wise I think Takion takes the cake.

Originally posted by Rols
Thats up for debate. The Source vs Odin power/ Power Cosmic.
Thats true but its not just the odin power, its also the rune power. Thats what snuffed mangog out of existence.

Originally posted by batdude123
Pfffffffffffffffft. What a joke! I'm actually of a similar opinion that DC's skyfathers aren't all that. They have a tendency to job more often.

I'm open to having my opinions changed. Can anyone provide evidence that DC Skyfathers and Marvel's are equal or better?

Originally posted by Acrosurge
I'm actually of a similar opinion that DC's skyfathers aren't all that. They have a tendency to job more often.

I'm open to having my opinions changed. Can anyone provide evidence that DC Skyfathers and Marvel's are equal or better?
Thats a good point, whens the last time a marvel skyfather has jobbed? well they dont. You dont see everyday superheros going around fighting Odin, Zeus, Vishnu or any of the other godheads. Everytime they do they get thier ass handed to them.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thats true but its not just the odin power, its also the rune power. Thats what snuffed mangog out of existence.

Takion and Orion Using the full power of the Astro force vs. RKT and SS.

In this scenerario, Orion would have had to have beaten Darkseid and taken his place as Ruler over all the New Gods. He would have access to all of his powers, the astro force, all the mother boxes, and the Omega Effect. This would make him a Ruler as thor as RKT was. Takion is for all intents and purposes, the source of power for the entire DC universe. He uses his powers in much the same ways SS does. But he is beyond anything the surfer can do. Takion is beyond cosmic energy. He is beyond magic. Beyond telepathy or the speed force or the quantum force. Hell, his power source(the source), granted the God wave. And we know how powerful that is. RKT and Current Silver Surfer would win 4/10 against Orion(prophesy full filled) and current Takion.

i think thor and orion might be the closest dc/marvel match-up you can find. that would truly be an AWESOME battle. orion is a GOD OF WAR. people forget that. his skill and speed are enormous, and he is at least an equal in strength with thor. the astroforce v mjollnir would be great to see. that fight is 50/50 in my book.

takion is still a bit of an unknown, i think, but if he can draw power directly from the source, his power is effectively infinite, depending on his control. i remember reading somewhere that he's supposed to grow and become nearly all-powerful. power-wise he could EASILY match the ss. what is unknown is his skill level. it's possible ss could take him by being smarter and more experienced.

tough battle . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
i think thor and orion might be the closest dc/marvel match-up you can find. that would truly be an AWESOME battle. orion is a GOD OF WAR. people forget that. his skill and speed are enormous, and he is at least an equal in strength with thor. the astroforce v mjollnir would be great to see. that fight is 50/50 in my book.

takion is still a bit of an unknown, i think, but if he can draw power directly from the source, his power is effectively infinite, depending on his control. i remember reading somewhere that he's supposed to grow and become nearly all-powerful. power-wise he could EASILY match the ss. what is unknown is his skill level. it's possible ss could take him by being smarter and more experienced.

tough battle . . .

Takion once scattered his molecules down to the atom across the cosmos, and then pulled them back together. How is that for skill and power.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thats true but its not just the odin power, its also the rune power. Thats what snuffed mangog out of existence.

Their is no actual Rune power, the runes gave Thor the knowledge to use the Odin power, the runes in itself isn't a "physical power".

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Takion and Orion Using the full power of the Astro force vs. RKT and SS.

In this scenerario, Orion would have had to have beaten Darkseid and taken his place as Ruler over all the New Gods. He would have access to all of his powers, the astro force, all the mother boxes, and the Omega Effect. This would make him a Ruler as thor as RKT was. Takion is for all intents and purposes, the source of power for the entire DC universe. He uses his powers in much the same ways SS does. But he is beyond anything the surfer can do. Takion is beyond cosmic energy. He is beyond magic. Beyond telepathy or the speed force or the quantum force. Hell, his power source(the source), granted the God wave. And we know how powerful that is. RKT and Current Silver Surfer would win 4/10 against Orion(prophesy full filled) and current Takion.

I so want to see Orion as he is said to become.

Where does it say Rune King Thor?

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thats a good point, whens the last time a marvel skyfather has jobbed? well they dont. /B]
Zeus was getting slapped around in the recent Ares mini from what I hear.

And outside of Darkseid, DC skyfathers don't job either.

I don't neccisarily consider it jobbing when Supes beats down a skyfather level being. He just had a good day, or just had the conviction to do so. He's been doing that shit for years. Especailly of late. Not much seems to even be a problem for Supes anymore. I just consider it yet another good showing from the man of tomorrow.

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't neccisarily consider it jobbing when Supes beats down a skyfather level being. He just had a good day, or just had the conviction to do so. He's been doing that shit for years. Especailly of late. Not much seems to even be a problem for Supes anymore. I just consider it yet another good showing from the man of tomorrow.
Originally posted by Skeets
If Supes doesn't hold back he's faster than the Flash.Supes has no limits everything steams from him he's the center of the DCU.Supes can just shut the speed force off by clapping his hands he's that essential to the universe.

Originally posted by Skeets
lmao

No Skyfather's touching Supes.Supes jobbed to Parallax that one time but he made up for it by whooping on darkseid and the rest of the DCU.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Not sure about this. The new Herald of Galactus Surfer would take a majority against Orion, but I'm not sure how he or Thor would do against Takion. I need to know a bit more about Thor's current levels before I make a decision.

Current Thor is RKT, who is equal to if not slightly above Odin. So I assume this means classic Thor.

Originally posted by Skeets
No Skyfather's touching Supes.Supes jobbed to Parallax that one time but he made up for it by whooping on darkseid and the rest of the DCU.

Supes is above Skyfather only when badly written.

Originally posted by Tassadar
Supes is above Skyfather only when badly written. hes being silly.

Originally posted by Tassadar
Current Thor is RKT, who is equal to if not slightly above Odin. So I assume this means classic Thor.

Nevermind this, I was thinking of a different Takion. Takion source powered beats RKT 8/10.

Originally posted by Juntai
hes being silly.

Takion was created to be more powerful than His creator in Time. I have the actual Comics.

Thor and Silver Surfer win this battle. They have the experience, the strength and team work to win.

Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Thor and Silver Surfer win this battle. They have the experience, the strength and team work to win.

Orions combat experience is nothing to scoff at.