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Classic Kingpin here.

Deathstroke, ftw 9 times out of 10.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Deathstroke, ftw 9 times out of 10.

DS

Kingpin whips his ass as easily as he did Cap.

Except DS is not Cap, he is the guy who pwned Batman and there was nothing said about equipment which means DS gets blades and guns which is his usual equipment. He kills Fisk.

And Kingpin gets a laser cane.

Yeah, equipment wins.

edit:

Originally posted by Luminatus
And Kingpin gets a laser cane.

Might not be enough.

Slade wrecks Fisk, even more so with equipment.

I'm not sure he could do that w/o equip, though.

I'd say Classic KP and Slade are even in strength and KP probably edges Slade out slightly in durability but agile as KP is for his size he's no Deathstroke. In skill they're even more or less but where Deathstroke dominates is in battlefield analysis. Before Fisk's punch can reach the halfway point to Deathstroke's face you can be sure that DS has already calculated the attack's path and thought of three ways to either block or dodge it.
DS 7/10

Yeah, no real debate here: Deathstroke for the majority.

It's sad people don't know anything about what a monster Classic Fisk was.

Classic KP was > Classic Spidey.

Anyways, DS is more skilled and smarter.
He's manhandled teams on his own. Classic Fisk should be easy prey.

Yeah and any version of Spidey is > DS in every stat...

Well, apparently Teen Titans > DS.


It takes more than brute strength and even superpowers to take down someone as cunning as DS.

Slade for the majority

Originally posted by Luminatus
Yeah and any version of Spidey is > DS in every stat... lol

classic spidey dint have superstrenght

I'm pretty sure he did, actually.

Originally posted by Luminatus
I'm pretty sure he did, actually.
Yeah, he wasn't nearly as strong as he is now but he was at least Class 5 if not Class 10.
@ the guy who says Classic KP>Spider-Man. No, no way in hell. Spider-Man always held back when he fought regular humans, that includes Fisk.

It doesn't matter. Fisk has plenty of insane strength feats. Classic KP is closer to Peter in strength than he was to any peak human.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Spider-Man always held back when he fought regular humans, that includes Fisk. even in dat fight vs Fisk when Fisk tells Spidey if he catches him he gonna snap his neck? (yea Spidey tries to escape lol)

this kinda shows CLASSIC KP >>> classic Spiderman for strenght dont u think?


classic SM is peak @ best

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
even in dat fight vs Fisk when Fisk tells Spidey if he catches him he gonna snap his neck? (yea Spidey tries to escape lol)

this kinda shows KP >>> classic Spiderman for strenght dont u think?
Nope, just shit writing. Kingpin shouldn't have been able to lift a ton, let alone match a person who could lift ten tons in strength.
I'm not the biggest Spidey fan but I don't think he was ever only peak. Stan Lee made it a point that part of his spider powers was the proportional strength of a spider which would be much greater than peak level.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Nope, just shit writing. Kingpin shouldn't have been able to lift a ton, let alone match a person who could lift ten tons in strength.
I'm not the biggest Spidey fan but I don't think he was ever only peak. Stan Lee made it a point that part of his spider powers was the proportional strength of a spider which would be much greater than peak level. edited (i ment classic KP)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
edited (i ment classic KP)
I knew what you meant. I stand by that Kingpin doing superhuman feats without adequate explanation is shit writing and PIS and no way in hell is he even close to Spider-Man in strength considering even Classic Spidey was a legitimate Class 5-10.

It was consistent shit writing then since it happened all the time.

In fact Kingpin only was a "normal" human when he became a Daredevil rogue.

Deathstroke one shots. Crushing Classic K.P.s skull ftw.

Classic KP is great and all but he doesn't have a forcefield and he doesn't have the instantaneous healing and regeneration or speedforce neccessary to enable this fight to last more than 2 seconds.

Deathstroke's jobber aura is quite impressive indeed.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
even in dat fight vs Fisk when Fisk tells Spidey if he catches him he gonna snap his neck? (yea Spidey tries to escape lol)

this kinda shows CLASSIC KP >>> classic Spiderman for strenght dont u think?


classic SM is peak @ best

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

classic spidey dint have superstrenght
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
classic SM is peak @ best

No

Originally posted by Mindset
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7849/kpownsm.jpg

pwn3d

This could be interesting..
Does Classic Fisk have any team-wrecker feats?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7849/kpownsm.jpg

pwn3d
What's that comment about Spider-Man's body not returning to normal yet? I admit I know nothing about that particular comic but it looks to me like Spider-Man was weakened.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What's that comment about Spider-Man's body not returning to normal yet? I admit I know nothing about that particular comic but it looks to me like Spider-Man was weakened. iirc its after fight with Tantula he was poison by his blades or somethin


k so he was weaken but its not like its somethin isolated so heres another one:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3194/kppwnssm.jpg

Spidey say it himself hes no match 4 KP. classic SM *never* physicaly overpowered classic KP

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
iirc its after fight with Tantula he was poison by his blades or somethin


k so he was weaken but its not like its somethin isolated so heres another one:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3194/kppwnssm.jpg

Spidey say it himself hes no match 4 KP

thats cuz KP was meta, SM only peak back then. classic SM *never* physicaly overpowered classic KP
I'm not a fan of Spider-Man but I know for a fact Classic Spidey was well above peak.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm not a fan of Spider-Man but I know for a fact Classic Spidey was well above peak. depends on writer then

maybe whover write his fights with KP did the same thing to him that this ****tard Busiek did to Thor lol


and heres another one

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7039/kpownssm.jpg

see how KP breaks SM grip. in fact his *arms* ar stronger then SMs *legs* ffs (legs are suppose to be far stronger then arms, so dat means KP was LEAGUES > SM back then)

whoever write him there clearly show KP as meta, SM as only peak (at best)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
depends on writer then

maybe whover write his fights with KP did the same thing to him that this ****tard Busiek did to Thor lol


and heres another one

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7039/kpownssm.jpg

see how KP breaks SM grip. in fact his *arms* arr stronger then SMs legs ffs

whoever write him there clearly show KP as meta, SM as only peak (at best)
And yet many feats by Classic Spider-Man prove that these examples of KP overpowering Spidey are PIS.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And yet many feats by Classic Spider-Man prove that these examples of KP overpowering Spidey are PIS. but thats the prob theres TOO MANY fights like that (in fact all o them lol)

PIS is suppose to be isolated, not reguler



i mean can u find one fight where *classic* SM physicaly overpowers *classic* KP? just ONE?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
but thats the prob theres TOO MANY fights like that (in fact all o them lol)

PIS is suppose to be isolated, not reguler



i mean can u find one fight where *classic* SM physicaly overpowers *classic* KP? just ONE?
As I said I'm not a Spider-Man fan but if you ask a Spidey fan I'm sure they could provide you with some.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
As I said I'm not a Spider-Man fan but if you ask a Spidey fan I'm sure they could provide you with some. ok dat post was ment for any1 actualy


remeber it got to be the *classic *versions (normal SM woud break KP in 2 lol)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
depends on writer then

maybe whover write his fights with KP did the same thing to him that this ****tard Busiek did to Thor lol


and heres another one

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7039/kpownssm.jpg

see how KP breaks SM grip. in fact his *arms* ar stronger then SMs *legs* ffs (legs are suppose to be far stronger then arms, so dat means KP was LEAGUES > SM back then)

whoever write him there clearly show KP as meta, SM as only peak (at best)

If the writer of that story intended Spiderman to look peak human, he is an idiot. Spiderman was shown to be superstrong right from the beginning. Peter Parked crushed a metal pipe on a rooftop, by accident, just after getting his power-as he was unaware of how strong he had become

So....
Any Classic Fisk team-wrecking feats?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
iirc its after fight with Tantula he was poison by his blades or somethin


k so he was weaken but its not like its somethin isolated so heres another one:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3194/kppwnssm.jpg

Spidey say it himself hes no match 4 KP. classic SM *never* physicaly overpowered classic KP http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8949/feat15fight2fz9.jpg

Originally posted by SoulDevourer


classic SM is peak @ best
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1872/feat7strength5ou1.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6131/feat7strength6bi7.jpg
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/4971/feat7strength7rq2.jpg

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http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6852/feat22strength2pc8.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4574/feat31strengthlv8.jpg - In 1964

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http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/911/feat4strengthbg0.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3164/feat15strengthug2.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4574/feat31strengthlv8.jpg - In 1964

lol, so the Marvel Strength Heirarchy went Thor > Hulk > Thing > Spider-Man...

Not too bad for fourth place (in it's time).

Yea, they probably forgot about Namor though.

Anyway, it's obvious to anyone who has read Spiderman comics, that he was not peak human.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, they probably forgot about Namor though.

Anyway, it's obvious to anyone who has read Spiderman comics, that he was not peak human.

Plus it said "heroes" in the box. Would Namor have been considered a villain/anti-hero during that time?

Good point, they probably didn't consider him a hero, more of an anti-hero.

he's the one who found captain america

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he's the one who found captain america

In a fit of psychotic rage.

Classic Kingpin was ridiculous as I recall. Without equipment, I'd give Kingpin the nod. With equipment Deathstroke wins it.

No amount of muscle is stopping a bullet to the brain.

Kingpin hires or buys of deathstroke anyone who knows anything about fisk would tell you that