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In straight h2h combat. Who wins this fight?

Kingpin 6/10.

as much as i hate batman..he wins. kingpin is too slow...i would say he'd win by chokehold but kingpin barely has a neck. so probably by a ninja jumpkick to the face.

if batman has beaten bane h2h alone then i'd say he definatley wins.

but also if spiderman has never beat kingpin h2h then batman loses since he hits way harder that batman. spiderman should be able to lift kingpin over his head and throw him with ease..but yet it never happens..he cant weigh more than a ton...go figure

I remember an issue of Captain America where the Kingpin beat the crap out of the Red Skull...and this was after Red Skull had the cloned body and skills of Steve Rogers and was skilled in H2H combat just as much as Captain America......

....and he still got owned by The Kingpin!!! The Kingpin smacked him around like a ragdoll and made him his little [email protected] that was impressive...

I cast my vote for The Kingpin of Crime!!!!!!

Spiderman doesnt use his full-strength when he fights weaker opponents because he doesnt want to kill them. And Kingpin is quite fast and agile seeing as though he is able to keep up with spidey.

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
I remember an issue of Captain America where the Kingpin beat the crap out of the Red Skull...and this was after Red Skull had the cloned body and skills of Steve Rogers and was skilled in H2H combat just as much as Captain America......

....and he still got owned by The Kingpin!!! The Kingpin smacked him around like a ragdoll and made him his little [email protected] that was impressive...

I cast my vote for The Kingpin of Crime!!!!!!



Kingpin also beat Cap and was about to kill him. Falcon's hawk saved Cap. Kingpin also fought Batman before and did pretty well. Bats couldnt beat him, so it was left at a stalemate.

kk... Godscribe, I think you just contradicted yourself...

I say Batman. 5/10. Bats has the intelligence, his kungpow wont be that effective on a man of pure muscle... It's all abou who is more motivated

Didn't Batman beat Kingpin in a crossover?

I thought they fought one time.

Batman knows more martial arts than Kingpin does. Batman wins 8/10.

Here is a scan of Batman kicking Kingpin in the chin. I don't know what happened next. I found it somewhere.

http://www.imagestation.com/mypictures/inbox/view.html?id=4194650088&url=http%3A//www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p58acd732f262b01ca60430d4c7911512/fa0547e8.jpg&caption=batmanvskingpin3&album_id=4290374033&from_album=1

yeah, cool fight, but batman takes it...hes got armor, peak human strength somewhere around kingpins, and hes just too smart n is much more skilled in martial arts..and plus hes beaten bane, even when he was sick and he would clobber kingpin

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Didn't Batman beat Kingpin in a crossover?

I thought they fought one time.

Yea they fought, but Batman didnt beat him. It was a stalemate.

Kingpin vs Bats.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3591/batmandaredevilpg425hj.th.jpghttp://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9278/batmandaredevilpg437bz.th.jpghttp://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8580/batmandaredevilpg441ly.th.jpghttp://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6720/batmandaredevilpg476jo.th.jpg

Kingpin vs Cap.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4136/kpvc018mf.th.jpghttp://img469.imageshack.us/img469/8162/kpvc023sn.th.jpghttp://img469.imageshack.us/img469/1378/kpvc030zp.th.jpg

Kingpin is a beast.

I still think the vibrating palm technique would take Kingpin down.

http://www.geocities.com/revelator15/palm.txt

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I still think the vibrating palm technique would take Kingpin down.

http://www.geocities.com/revelator15/palm.txt

Who was that he did it to?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Who was that he did it to? Just some Ninja I guess. I found the scan on a Batman thread on another site.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Just some Ninja I guess. I found the scan on a Batman thread on another site.

C'mon snoop, thats not good enough. Kingpin has taken out ninjas before. I do think its a good fight. Anyone has trouble fighting Fiask. It really can go either way, but im leaning more towards KP slightly.

Batman took out a small group of enhanced gorillas using pressure point blows to the Atom's surprise:

http://img7.exs.cx/img7/6927/batom.jpg

Had KP ever done that?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Batman took out a small group of enhanced gorillas using pressure point blows to the Atom's surprise:

http://img7.exs.cx/img7/6927/batom.jpg

Had KP ever done that?

I wouldnt know if KP has ever done it. Daredevil tried to do it to him a few times and has failed. Hes the master of pressure points to me and if he struggles to get it off on KP.........

What is KP up to these days? I don't remember reading any story arcs involving him lately.

Is he in jail or something?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What is KP up to these days? I don't remember reading any story arcs involving him lately.

Is he in jail or something?

Yea hes in jail with Matt. He just recently got Matts friend Foggy stabbed.

Do you read DD? My LCS must not ever get it in cause I never see it on the racks.

Yea it was crazy. As you know, everyone knows Matt is Daredevil. Foggy is just trying to prove that he isnt. Plenty of villains in prisin with Matt too and the government is trying to put him in gen pop.

wtf, dd beat kingpin and if he can then bats or cap defintely should be able to

Originally posted by braz
wtf, dd beat kingpin and if he can then bats or cap defintely should be able to

its not that simple. Daredevil has radar to where he knows a move is coming. Thats gives him an extra edge that Cap nor Bats have. Kingpin is extreemly agile for his size and is as strong as Cap. I hate to admit it but Kingpin has also beat Daredevil before.

Kingpin is nobody to screw with. You quite literally have to be a Superhuman to beat him, or just be a nut. The Punisher has beat him before, but Frank's on Cap's fighting skill level, and can take a LOT of punishment, no pun intended.

Originally posted by Marcus4600
.... and can take a LOT of punishment, no pun intended.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

incredibly funny, i almost missed the accidental pun

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
kk... Godscribe, I think you just contradicted yourself...

I say Batman. 5/10. Bats has the intelligence, his kungpow wont be that effective on a man of pure muscle... It's all abou who is more motivated

Strength and Speed are two different things buddy.

didnt punisher also get owned by him?

Batman will use his anti-Kingpin spray and transform him into a fat man who can't move, or use his kryptnite ring and...wait...this is Kingpin, and we aren't in the 60' tv show.
Kingpin is at least able to lift around 700 pound of weight, if not more.
He has stalemated and even knocked unconscious Spider-Man, various times.His strength, durability, agility and reflexes are all on a peak human level, his huge body mass is muscle, almost all muscle.
Batman with all his uber alles martial arts skills, can still be hit by common thugs, and you believe Kingpin can't do the job?
Wilson Fisk waited for Spidey in his office, tough Spidey was under a small fever, he still was able to land punches, jump and do a great fight.Kingpin smashed himself and the wall crawler through the concrete walls of his mansion, and wasn't even stunned from that.Spidey always admitted that Fisk among the humans of his rogue galleries is the only one who physically match him, yes Spidey hold back cause a full strength punch would kill Fisk, so let's say he fights at the 30-40% of his physical strength, but his other abilities are all just there in their various slugfest, and Big K is still there showing his own.
Batman is toast

That bats kingpin fight posted was pretty cool. I like the way it ended to. typical kingpin.

Bump..

If this classic KP,then Gotham will need a new protector

The question is who is stronger?

Classic Kingpin by alot.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The question is who is stronger?

Who would win in a h2h fight.

Originally posted by Madvillain Who would win in a h2h fight. Kingpin.

Kingpin as he is these days would get knocked out.

Originally posted by Warrior18
Kingpin as he is these days would get knocked out. Yeah

Originally posted by Warrior18
Kingpin as he is these days would get knocked out. lol That was timed to perfection.

Originally posted by Dagarkin
lol That was timed to perfection.

What was?

Batman 10/10, and easily.

I think Batman takes it 6-7/10.

Originally posted by grimify
Batman 10/10, and easily. Not against Classic Kingpin.

Indeed, against classic kingpin, too.

Originally posted by grimify
Indeed, against classic kingpin, too.

You don't really need to pay attention to grimify in a thread involving Batman. Because he'll always vote for him. Against ridiculous odds.

kingpin 6/10

Originally posted by Enyalus
You don't really need to pay attention to grimify in a thread involving Batman. Because he'll always vote for him. Against ridiculous odds.



You're right about one thing, anyone facing Batman is against ridiculous odds.

Originally posted by grimify
You're right about one thing, anyone facing Batman is against ridiculous odds. http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2688/batmanwins1993526ab8.jpg

Originally posted by grimify
You're right about one thing, anyone facing Batman is against ridiculous odds.
Originally posted by chomperx9
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2688/batmanwins1993526ab8.jpg Nice

This has nothing to do with this matchup but an assassin once smuggled some kind of plastic gun through Kingpins metal detectors. Facing the gun, Kingpin opened his jacket and gave the assassin a free shot at his chest. After not being affected by the bullet wound he hired the assassin on the spot for a different job. Anyways...classic kingpin was very underrated.

Originally posted by grimify
Indeed, against classic kingpin, too.

Wrong wrong wrong
Batman would beat current Fisk, but he would definitely lose against Classic KP, who was practically superhuman.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Wrong wrong wrong
Batman would beat current Fisk, but he would definitely lose against Classic KP, who was practically superhuman.

Batman has never beaten a superhuman...ever.

Right?

Originally posted by grimify
Batman has never beaten a superhuman...ever.

Right?

He has never come up against someone like classic KP before. How would Bruce win?

Originally posted by BUSTER1
He has never come up against someone like classic KP before. How would Bruce win? so kingpin is more dangerous than all the other villains batman has taken down before ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
so kingpin is more dangerous than all the other villains batman has taken down before ?

Answer the question. Classic KP stalemated Captain America and Spiderman-how does Bruce take him?

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Answer the question. Classic KP stalemated Captain America and Spiderman-how does Bruce take him? because that was spiderman and cap. this is the one and only BATMAN

Originally posted by chomperx9
because that was spiderman and cap. this is the one and only BATMAN

Explain please

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Explain please 1st of all this is kingpin vs batman not classic kingpin vs batman

Originally posted by chomperx9
1st of all this is kingpin vs batman not classic kingpin vs batman

it didn't state which version of Kingpin this was. And I stated in an earlier post, that if is current KP then Batman wins but if it is Classic Kp then he beats Kingpin.

This is my earlier post

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Wrong wrong wrong
Batman would beat current Fisk, but he would definitely lose against Classic KP, who was practically superhuman.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Answer the question. Classic KP stalemated Captain America and Spiderman-how does Bruce take him?

I remember KP beating Cap because he took him by surprise with his agility and Cap didn't recover, that's about it.

Spidey gets chumped by humans constantly, nothing new.

Originally posted by grimify
I remember KP beating Cap because he took him by surprise with his agility and Cap didn't recover, that's about it.

Spidey gets chumped by humans constantly, nothing new.

KP wouldn't be able to take Cap by suprise with his speed and agility, unless KP was extremely fast and agile. Spidey chumpS a lot more humans than he gets chumped by
You could do yourself a big favour by reading Kingpin's respect thread

Originally posted by BUSTER1
KP wouldn't be able to take Cap by suprise with his speed and agility, unless KP was extremely fast and agile. Spidey chumpS a lot more humans than he gets chumped by
You could do yourself a big favour by reading Kingpin's respect thread

It's more the fact that he's so large and Cap didn't expect him to be agile. Cap would wreck classic KP, too.

I don't need to read the respect thread, I'm well aware that he's got some good strength feats, smashing concrete, using a heavy barbell to fight with, etc...

None of which is something Batman hasn't encountered and beaten.

Originally posted by grimify
It's more the fact that he's so large and Cap didn't expect him to be agile. Cap would wreck classic KP, too.

I don't need to read the respect thread, I'm well aware that he's got some good strength feats, smashing concrete, using a heavy barbell to fight with, etc...

None of which is something Batman hasn't encountered and beaten.
The fact that he surprised Cap and caught, and has kept up with Spiderman means that Classic KP' speed level is very high-he is faster and stronger than Bruce. With his martial art ability and durability he is too much for Batman. I am refering to classic Fisk, by the way, not current.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
The fact that he surprised Cap and caught, and has kept up with Spiderman means that Classic KP' speed level is very high-he is faster and stronger than Bruce. With his martial art ability and durability he is too much for Batman. I am refering to classic Fisk, by the way, not current.

So classic KP is tougher than anyone else Batman has beaten?

Originally posted by grimify
So classic KP is tougher than anyone else Batman has beaten?
Is he weaker than everyone who's pulled a win against Bat's? Is Bat's tougher than everone Kingpin's beaten?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Is he weaker than everyone who's pulled a win against Bat's? Is Bat's tougher than everone Kingpin's beaten?

trick question, batman doesn't lose... to the second part, yes

Originally posted by grimify
trick question, batman doesn't lose.
Ever? So you're telling me that if I go looking, I won't be able to find a single loss on Batman's record...

And would you like to compare feats between Bat's and the likes of Captain America and Spiderman to support your claim that Bat's is tougher than they are?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ever? So you're telling me that if I go looking, I won't be able to find a single loss on Batman's record...

Nope ;p

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ever? So you're telling me that if I go looking, I won't be able to find a single loss on Batman's record?

Batman faked them all.

Bane and Prometheus off the top of my head...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Bane and Prometheus off the top of my head...

Common misconception, Batman indeed won.

Okay.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ever? So you're telling me that if I go looking, I won't be able to find a single loss on Batman's record...

And would you like to compare feats between Bat's and the likes of Captain America and Spiderman to support your claim that Bat's is tougher than they are? They were avatars or copycat vigilantes. Batman wins.

Originally posted by Badabing
They were avatars or copycat vigilantes. Batman wins.

This guy knows. They were clearly impostors.

There is only one being that can match Batman's power. You know his name... it starts with "R".

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There is only one being that can match Batman's power. You know his name... it starts with "R".

So when can we look forward to the big crossover fight of the century Rulk vs Batman

Now I've slept on it I reckon classic KP doesn't just beat Batman-HE DESTROYS HIM!!!!

Originally posted by jrodslam
Kingpin vs Bats.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3591/batmandaredevilpg425hj.th.jpghttp://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9278/batmandaredevilpg437bz.th.jpghttp://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8580/batmandaredevilpg441ly.th.jpghttp://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6720/batmandaredevilpg476jo.th.jpg

Kingpin vs Cap.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4136/kpvc018mf.th.jpghttp://img469.imageshack.us/img469/8162/kpvc023sn.th.jpghttp://img469.imageshack.us/img469/1378/kpvc030zp.th.jpg

Kingpin is a beast.

ok in all honesty, that shows more of Scarecrow getting his butt kicked by Daredevil than the Batman vs Kingpin fight.

Kingpin didn't beat him in the crossover. The fight ended very abruptly, but Bats fought him dead-even.


Originally posted by BUSTER1
Now I've slept on it I reckon classic KP doesn't just beat Batman-HE DESTROYS HIM!!!!

Batman still wins, easily.

If Daredevil and Kingpin fought to a stalemate, then I'd say that Batman would win.

Originally posted by grimify
Kingpin didn't beat him in the crossover. The fight ended very abruptly, but Bats fought him dead-even.




Batman still wins, easily.

Originally posted by BUSTER1

he stalemated him so batman wins???? I love batman but that makes no sense to me. lol

Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
he stalemated him so batman wins???? I love batman but that makes no sense to me. lol

I'm not even considering it a factor, I was just responding to the fact that the scan of the fight just showed one panel where it appeared KP had the upper hand. The fight was really quick, and was pretty even. They didn't see it through to conclusion.


I say Batman wins Because he does. I couldn't care less about that crossover.

In all honesty, I have to agree. Batman has that darn belt.

Originally posted by grimify
I'm not even considering it a factor, I was just responding to the fact that the scan of the fight just showed one panel where it appeared KP had the upper hand. The fight was really quick, and was pretty even. They didn't see it through to conclusion.


I say Batman wins Because he does. I couldn't care less about that crossover.

Delude yourself all you want. Fisk wins without doubt because, while Batman is just a man who dresses as a bat, Fisk is the freaking Kingpin of Crime!!!!!

Yeah, and so is Penquin, Lex, and every other bald dude in comics lol.

Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
In all honesty, I have to agree. Batman has that darn belt.


this is h2h as in no belt.

oh.

Batman 8/10

yeah I'd say 6/10

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Delude yourself all you want. Fisk wins without doubt because, while Batman is just a man who dresses as a bat, Fisk is the freaking Kingpin of Crime!!!!!

A man who dresses like a Bat who has handled Grundy, Wonder Woman, Lobo, Werewolves, Demons, etc.
A man who dresses like a Bat and happens to be one of the premier members of the JLA.

This guy stomps super-humans routinely.

Classic Fisk wins current puts up a good fight but loses

Originally posted by It's Faceman
Batman 8/10 Sounds about right.

Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
ok in all honesty, that shows more of Scarecrow getting his butt kicked by Daredevil than the Batman vs Kingpin fight.

Sorry bout that. Ill try and get scans of the entire fight when i get back home.

http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678264_BatmanDaredevilpg41.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678266_BatmanDaredevilpg42.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678265_BatmanDaredevilpg43.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678268_BatmanDaredevilpg44.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678267_BatmanDaredevilpg47.jpg

Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
Yeah, and so is Penquin, Lex, and every other bald dude in comics lol.

But they rule fictional places like Gotham City and Metropolis, that don't exist. Kingpin rules New york city, which does exist in the real world. That takes some doing.

Originally posted by jrodslam
http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678264_BatmanDaredevilpg41.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678266_BatmanDaredevilpg42.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678265_BatmanDaredevilpg43.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678268_BatmanDaredevilpg44.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678267_BatmanDaredevilpg47.jpg Looks the Bat kick put Fisk down.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Looks the Bat kick put Fisk down.

Doesnt look like it to me.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Doesnt look like it to me. Didn't think it would.

Batman curbstomp
Hes physically stronger then Kingpin is

Originally posted by batosaimsx7
Batman curbstomp
Hes physically stronger then Kingpin is
Bada, is that you?

Originally posted by batosaimsx7
Batman curbstomp
Hes physically stronger then Kingpin is


i really question that.

Batman isn't stronger than Fisk, IMO. At best, he is as strong.

I'd love to say Kingpin but I think bats takes it, but it depends on the location of the fight. In tight quarters like the previous pages showed I think Kingpin would have won eventually. With lots of room to do the gummy bat bounce Batman would eventually take him down.

Originally posted by mrcharlieo
I'd love to say Kingpin but I think bats takes it, but it depends on the location of the fight. In tight quarters like the previous pages showed I think Kingpin would have won eventually. With lots of room to do the gummy bat bounce Batman would eventually take him down.

This makes sense. While Kingpin certainly isn't slow and ponderous, the more inclosed the space is, the more the fight slips over to him. With more room to manuever, Bats can take advantage.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Doesnt look like it to me.

Thats because it doesn't put KP down

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Thats because it doesn't put KP down

I know.

Originally posted by jrodslam
http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678264_BatmanDaredevilpg41.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678266_BatmanDaredevilpg42.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678265_BatmanDaredevilpg43.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678268_BatmanDaredevilpg44.jpg http://img13.imagehosting.gr/out.php/t678267_BatmanDaredevilpg47.jpg


Ya know, I have always wanted to see this matchup. In all honesty, though, it looks like a draw. I hope they make a story that finishes this fight out.