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Wolverine goes against these opponents. No prep time. He is revieved after each fight. How far will he get? Who will he beat?

1. Blob

2. Blade

3. Daredevil

4. Elektra

5. Captain America

6. Batman

7. Spider-Man

8. Batgirl

9. Lady Shiva

10. Venom

11. Cyclops

12. Deathstroke

13. Havok

14. Human Torch

15. Thing

16. Namor

17. 1998 Godzilla

18. Hulk

19. Iron Man

20. Karate Kid

(Thanks to WOLVERINEFAN)

eep....I'm not even sure he'd get past the first fight....

If he did by some miracle beat blob...he might make it to venom or cyk before going down.....

even then batman and tha cap and spidey aren't exactly gonna be a walk in the park either...

Whoa. I personally feel that even Blob would give wolvie a hard time. They may not beat him but any of these characters could beat him and it wouldn't be bad writing.

Originally posted by jinzin
If he did by some miracle beat blob...he might make it to venom or cyk before going down.....

even then batman and tha cap and spidey aren't exactly gonna be a walk in the park either...

yeah, pretty much agree...

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He would die probably at blob

I think Wolverine could easily win most of the fights due to resourcefulness, survival instinct and the top fighting skills of any non war god but Hulk, Namor and Godzilla are just way too strong

If he beats Blob, I say he gets to Spider-Man and loses to the wallcrawler. But I'd vote Blob in match 1. Haha! Wolvie doesn't win at all...stuff it fanboys.

-DM

Originally posted by DigiMark007
If he beats Blob, I say he gets to Spider-Man and loses to the wallcrawler. But I'd vote Blob in match 1. Haha! Wolvie doesn't win at all...stuff it fanboys.

-DM
sometimes you assholes can be harsh...

Blob actually isnt a good startting match-up here but giving him the benifit of the doubt and say he SOMEHOW wins he would beat blade could go either way with DD/Electra but would lose to Cap.Everyone after number 6 is going out of his league

He beits Karate Kid youfulls, he as the regourneration factor and admaminnitum skallingtoneton!!!Wolvigod, got the drp on Galkus, andcna do thsi esily.

If Wolverine beats Blob he moves down the list pretty easily until he gets to Spider-man, where he has about a 20% chance of winning that match. If Wolverine beats Spider-man he has a 50% chance of moving past Venom; then depending on wiether or not CIS is on he either loses to Cyclops or Havok.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He beits Karate Kid youfulls, he as the regourneration factor and admaminnitum skallingtoneton!!!Wolvigod, got the drp on Galkus, andcna do thsi esily.

So speaks the C Master!!!!!.... 1

Ok, Karate kid has this 1/10,lol, but I think drizzt could take wolverine anyday, and sarevok, and irenicus, and an admantine golem, and............

i'd say even elektra gives him trouble

Elektra and daredevil, but some people around here would lead you to believe Spiderman can't hurt him but captain america can, and that he can beat godzilla.

He retracts his middle claw and stabs Blob through the eyes.

After that, Wolverine COULD make it Venom, but the fights with Spider-Man and Captain America could very easily go either way. He has no problem with Blade, Elektra, Daredevil, Batgirl or Lady Shiva. They're skilled martial artists, but Wolverine is super-human. Venom, however, is far more dangerous then Spider-Man, and would defeat Wolverine in almost any circumstance.

Wolverine is a PEAK HUMAN character in all aspects BUT durability and regeneration, he ACCELERATES, the damage we already take, and can be killed in deceptively easy ways, organs, overcharging of regeneration by means of electricity, without touching the skeleton.

IF he beat blob, blade and many others woudl give him trouble, if he went beserk he'd prevail, but could eat it by cap anytime, and batman as well since wolverine is a "better fighter" but doesn't apply it do to his regeneration factor,he'd beat spiderman if spiderman were dumb enough to come on his terms instead of playing it safe and webbing, or not removing vital organs. Spdierman's tensile strength of webbing is 120 lbs per square millimeter!! Webbing his arms in an uncomfortable position would end the match.If spiderman went beserk, he may pose an overall greter thread than Venom because he's less strategic, and fights more upclose, with a bloodlust.

Venom would kill him without a doubt, smothering, bus pinning comes to play here.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine is a PEAK HUMAN character in all aspects BUT durability and regeneration, he ACCELERATES, the damage we already take, and can be killed in deceptively easy ways, organs, overcharging of regeneration by means of electricity, without touching the skeleton.

IF he beat blob, blade and many others woudl give him trouble, if he went beserk he'd prevail, but could eat it by cap anytime, and batman as well since wolverine is a "better fighter" but doesn't apply it do to his regeneration factor,he'd beat spiderman if spiderman were dumb enough to come on his terms instead of playing it safe and webbing, or not removing vital organs. Spdierman's tensile strength of webbing is 120 lbs per square millimeter!! Webbing his arms in an uncomfortable position would end the match.If spiderman went beserk, he may pose an overall greter thread than Venom because he's less strategic, and fights more upclose, with a bloodlust.

Venom would kill him without a doubt, smothering, bus pinning comes to play here.

Wolverine is not "PEAK HUMAN". He has superhuman strength and speed. He would have no problem with Blade, Elektra, Daredevil, Batgirl, Batman, Lady Shiva and Captain America will last along time because of his shield but even he wont have much of a chance of winning.

Venom and Wolverine (as shown in comics) have a 50/50 chance of either one coming out on top. The ONLY reason Spider-man has much of a chance of beating Wolverine comes from his webbing

No its at most enhanced by skeleotn, not superhuman at any means, that would make cap superhuman, and it's many ways to go past wolvie have you been ignoring them.

Cap has benched 1200lbs, that is above peak human putting him in the low superhuman range. Wolverine is on the same level as Cap.

Cap doesn't stay there and wolverine should be on 800 lbs.
Cap is still a peak human, like daredevil.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine is not "PEAK HUMAN". He has superhuman strength and speed. He would have no problem with Blade, Elektra, Daredevil, Batgirl, Batman, Lady Shiva and Captain America will last along time because of his shield but even he wont have much of a chance of winning.

Venom and Wolverine (as shown in comics) have a 50/50 chance of either one coming out on top. The ONLY reason Spider-man has much of a chance of beating Wolverine comes from his webbing
Wolverine has superhuman strenght and speed.
Yes, he also possess flight, heat vision and kryptonite claws.
Wolverine without adamantium in his skeleton can lift around 600 lbs, and his body is keep in peak human condition thanks to the healing factor.The adamantium put his strenght in class 800 lbs, equal to Captain America.
Also he's going down with Batman is he's allowed to use his utility belt, cause he carries a sonic device doesn't he?If it's so, he'll stun Wolverine then knock out him.

Wolverine can also beat Namor and GAlactus, and would lose to batman, who, finds a way.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Wolverine has superhuman strenght and speed.
Yes, he also possess flight, heat vision and kryptonite claws.
Wolverine without adamantium in his skeleton can lift around 600 lbs, and his body is keep in peak human condition thanks to the healing factor.The adamantium put his strenght in class 800 lbs, equal to Captain America.
Also he's going down with Batman is he's allowed to use his utility belt, cause he carries a sonic device doesn't he?If it's so, he'll stun Wolverine then knock out him.

Oh, thats clever.

Both Wolverine and Captain America are above peak human, all their strength feats for the last 10 years show this.

The are superheroes, but they are only peak human, read the Spiderman vs. Trio thread, wolverine is "enhanced" by his skeleton, making him lift 800 lbs, and I'll say 1000 at best.

Cap has given wolverine a good fight, and I think eleckra would still give him trouble.

Everyone here is right.

Cap, Wolverine, Batman and Daredevil are all able to lift around 800-900 lbs.

None of these guys are in the ton+ level. Although Cap and Wolverine are considered to have Super Human strength.

Peak human - is able to lift twice their own body weight. Everyone above are able to do that and then some. Why the others(Daredevil, Batman) arent considered super human? I dont know.

They are what the max potential of them are. Many people can lift twice their body weight, and actually the lighter the creature the more proportionally strong it is. Bear with me:

" a beetle would have an easier time lifting hundreds of beetles, while a full grown elephant, would struggle carrying another full grown elephant."

" a rhino is too heavy to lie on its back for long, its on weight crushes its ribs"

It still doesn't ring, but I can lift twice my own body weight in a press motion, and I wont do super human feats,(lifting a car) without adrenaline, adn those guys aren't lifting cars anytime soon logically.

Show a link where wolverine has "super strength and speed" people still debate spidey isn't super strong, the stronger the muscles in a limb the faster it moves, and wolverine isn't super light with the skeleton, while spidey has a light weight body and limbs. If wolverine isn't superstrong he can't be superfast, not by his balance of powers.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
They are what the max potential of them are. Many people can lift twice their body weight, and actually the lighter the creature the more proportionally strong it is. Bear with me:

" a beetle would have an easier time lifting hundreds of beetles, while a full grown elephant, would struggle carrying another full grown elephant."

" a rhino is too heavy to lie on its back for long, its on weight crushes its ribs"

It still doesn't ring, but I can lift twice my own body weight in a press motion, and I wont do super human feats,(lifting a car) without adrenaline, adn those guys aren't lifting cars anytime soon logically.

Show a link where wolverine has "super strength and speed" people still debate spidey isn't super strong, the stronger the muscles in a limb the faster it moves, and wolverine isn't super light with the skeleton, while spidey has a light weight body and limbs. If wolverine isn't superstrong he can't be superfast, not by his balance of powers.

Benching 1200 pounds with out breaking a sweat and carying motorcycle above your head and walking up a hill aren't something a human is capable of. Wolverine has thrown a full dumpster down an ally with one arm, as kicked massive rocks and sent them flying a good 20 feet, has used a telephone pole sized log as a weapon, thrown a shark out of the ocean on to a boat and carried the Hulk around on his back. He is above peak human strength and worst he is in the 1000lbs range.

He can't lift a car and wolverine benches 800 lbs, when you pick up something you carry a portion of the weight, I.E you could pick up a 120 pound person, but not necessarily carry a large 120 thing of rocks, because the mass is higher and you would be lifting it in a smaller area, same with a pole, you could use it for balance, because itis so long the weight is negated.

In fact 2 things going in opposite directions at the same weight and speed makes it easier, people can hold down two motorcycles going in opposite directions fast, but not one.

Use wolverine's core stats, not writitng, I alredy said i was capable of superhuman feats while beserk, and i'm sure wolverine is, but not in complete calm with no effort, and imagine spidey or venom hitting him while beserk.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He can't lift a car and wolverine benches 800 lbs, when you pick up something you carry a portion of the weight, I.E you could pick up a 120 pound person, but not necessarily carry a large 120 thing of rocks, because the mass is higher and you would be lifting it in a smaller area, same with a pole, you could use it for balance, because itis so long the weight is negated.

In fact 2 things going in opposite directions at the same weight and speed makes it easier, people can hold down two motorcycles going in opposite directions fast, but not one.

Use wolverine's core stats, not writitng, I alredy said i was capable of superhuman feats while beserk, and i'm sure wolverine is, but not in complete calm with no effort, and imagine spidey or venom hitting him while beserk.

If you know of anypeople who can walk up hills carrying a Motorcycle above their head, throw around full dumpters and throw someone underwater with enough force to crack concret, I'd like to meet them.

Some people have moved planes with their ears, balanced cars on their heads, and broke conkrete, its all science, wolverine is strong, but not classified as superhuman, show me where he is.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Some people have moved planes with their ears, balanced cars on their heads, and broke conkrete, its all science, wolverine is strong, but not classified as superhuman, show me where he is.

Plans have wheels and did was this car just the frame like in the strongman contests? Wolverine has broken concret while underwater, there is a huge difference there.

Underwater feats of strength like liftig don't count as much because of the lack of gravity, like space, but walking on the bottom of the ocean, hell yea.

Beside's its how you ontrol your body that makes you strong, gymnists are built for strength and flexibility, bodybuilders are strong but not as strong as world lifters, the body builders focus on reps.

Power is better than strength anyways, it is better to use 60% of your strength faster and with longert amounts of time, than to use 90% once, and wear out, don't you agree?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Underwater feats of strength like liftig don't count as much because of the lack of gravity, like space, but walking on the bottom of the ocean, hell yea.

Beside's its how you ontrol your body that makes you strong, gymnists are built for strength and flexibility, bodybuilders are strong but not as strong as world lifters, the body builders focus on reps.

Power is better than strength anyways, it is better to use 60% of your strength faster and with longert amounts of time, than to use 90% once, and wear out, don't you agree?

Imagine throwing a baseball underwater so that when it hits the side of a pool the wall breaks. Wolverine has done that with a person.

And I agree with the other point

A person broke a wall underwater, holy S##t what was it made of

Anyways shouldn't wolverine be less adept underwater, because of his density?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
A person broke a wall underwater, holy S##t what was it made of

Anyways shouldn't wolverine be less adept underwater, because of his density?

Yes, and he is (according to Tigershark anyway).

IMO the half a dozen Wolverine feats I can think of support the fact that he has low end superhuman strength

He does great feats in a fight no doubt, many would, He is classified as peak human. We pretty much agree on the outcomes of the match, however.

Great points.

I would think if wolverine had super strength he would be super fast, ad he should be around cap in speed.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He does great feats in a fight no doubt, many would, He is classified as peak human. We pretty much agree on the outcomes of the match, however.

Great points.

I would think if wolverine had super strength he would be super fast, ad he should be around cap in speed.

He also has low end superhuman speed as well...

He shouldn't be running faster than a greyhound, what do you say he clocks...

There is an instance where he was standing 20-30 feet away from some terrorist with his back turned, the guy fires the gun and the bullet clips his cheek and Wolverine turns close the gap and removes they guys arm before he can fire another shot.

I'd say in a sprint he could keep up with Deadpool, who has ran down a motorcycle (in the city limits) before.

I'd say 40 mph, tops and thats generous, seeing spidey doesn't run super fast, though I heard he clocked 100mph

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He also has low end superhuman speed as well...

Yeah...the bones would probably improve his running speed...

what is a good low end superhuman running speed?

Actually it would make sense as the best runners are 27mph , it Wolvie rruns 35 or up it could be low human superhuman, I'd say enhanced, because its enhanced by the skeleton, like his strength.

The density in the bones wouldn't really make him run faster, it would give him more support as tendon and sinew stretches, but the more dense the slower.

Wolverine reflexes and combat speed are also low level superhuman.

combat speed I agree without a doubt upon, but reflexes? Perhaps

Wolverine has superhuman agility, but you don't see him getting out of the way of peoples' attacks often because he just doesn't have to. Against Elektra (for example), he can afford to charge right into her sais and take a straight shot at her without worrying.

If an opponent wasn't aware of Wolverine's healing factor, he could just hold up their blade with his own body and end the fight with one stroke.

Its classified as peak, but enhanced by other means, though he can pull off those feats, he is still peak human.

Is this a thread about Wolverine?

I think the things he must face are incredibly tuff for him. And the order needs to be changed.

it would be better as

1. Blade
2. Dardevil
3. Elektra
4. Batgirl
5. Batman
6. Spiderman
7. Captain America
8. Lady Shiva
9. Venom
10. Cyclops
11. Blob
12. Deathstroke
13. Havok
14. Human Torch
15. Thing
16. She-Hulk
17. Hulk
18. Namor
19. Iron Man
20. Spawn

I think its a bit better. More even for him.

If he somehow beats spiderman, he eats it at venom, placing him at a decent part.

If by luck he gets past Spidey. And by further luck he gets past Cap. Then yeh Venom takes him down.

Lets all say



AMEN!!!!

Venom only has a 50/50 chance of beating Wolverine

Captain America, Batman and Spiderman can all take down Wolvie.

Venom's main weaknesses are sonic and thermal attacks. Unless Wolvie's gonna use his army knowhow to rub two sticks together or give Venom cigar burns they don't really factor in. Wolverine is susceptible to everything a normal human is, but he can recover from injury within limits. I think Venom could reach those limits.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Venom's main weaknesses are sonic and thermal attacks. Unless Wolvie's gonna use his army knowhow to rub two sticks together or give Venom cigar burns they don't really factor in. Wolverine is susceptible to everything a normal human is, but he can recover from injury within limits. I think Venom could reach those limits.

Venom's symbiot (and Caranage's and Toxin's ect.) can be overloaded by damage that has nothing to do with fire or sonics. After enough damage is delt the symbiot starts to leave exposed areas of its host. Wolverine's fights with Venom make it pretty clear that it is about 50% chance of either winning and the only reason Spider-man has a better chance is because of his weaponing.

Let me rephrase: In my opinion I think Venom could overload Wolverine's healing factor before vice versa occurs. Venom is probably around 10x stronger than Wolverine if I recall, and he has more ranged ability.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Let me rephrase: In my opinion I think Venom could overload Wolverine's healing factor before vice versa occurs. Venom is probably around 10x stronger than Wolverine if I recall, and he has more ranged ability.

Closer to 25 times stronger actually

Venom has too many opporutinities to let that happen, like pinning a semi on the guy.....

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Closer to 25 times stronger actually

I've read quotes of Wolverine (with adamantium skeleton) up to a ton and Venom up to about 11 tons. Dunno if they're up to date.

Wolverine in berserker rage is around a ton and Venom is in the 20-25 ton range

I dunno about 2.000 lbs thats a large jump from 800 about, 1.25 times, if thats the case he should be flinging cars.

Wolverine can't break through traditional handcuffs, especially logically.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine can't break through traditional handcuffs, especially logically.

He has shattered chains on at least 3 occasions and been a steel bar around a random thugs neck with ease.

And Wolverine is in at minimum in the 1000lbs in a normal state

But he wouldn't have the leverage to generate that kind of force, theres no where to move, a large strongman needs leverage, if your arms are behind your back, criss cross, he wouldn't break them with brute force, its not always direct strength.

A phonebook is nigh impossible to break with bare hands, but concrete has been broken on several occasions.

I still believe wolverine is at 800 lbs, and is no stronger than cap.

Not really. Even if he could bench a solid ton, he might be able to bench a very small car, but not fling one. Notice I said small car; even sportscars weigh around one and a half to two tons (3,000-4,000 lbs).

A new sig my boy.

Perhaps so, wolverine's adrenaline is the max of adrenaline, but he would still be dwarfed in strength, and I've seen him in handcuffs, and captured by a terrorist group who binded his hands to where his claws cannot be used, and Nick Fury assisted in his rescue.

But he could lift a car, since humans can do a decent job of it in an adrenaline type situation, but like i said, its still classified as peak human, even though he has done these feats from time to time, they take more effort, to do so, he is at the peak condition of a person.

Dude, Wolverine's thrown a saber through the cockpit of a Stuka bomber and stabbed the pilot from several hundred feet below. He's superhumanly strong.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Dude, Wolverine's thrown a saber through the cockpit of a Stuka bomber and stabbed the pilot from several hundred feet below. He's superhumanly strong.

I have been trying to explain that to Cordera for some time now

And Cordera one example of a weakened Wolverine in handcuffs doesn't account for much

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The ONLY reason Spider-man has much of a chance of beating Wolverine comes from his webbing

and the fact that people are on spidey's nuts all day, everyday

Another stupid fanboy on the loose, seriously have you seen the wolverine fanboys around here they are die hard

make a point next time or you'll be ignored.

Man wolverine is a peak human, he can do some superhuman feats, but he isn't ranked as one, get overit, Wolverine's inconsistant feats meanlittle as I can bring 2 bad for every one thats good.

it just so happens though...that they're the same two over and over again...

or your same 1??

Whats your point there are many times wolverine has trouble with the likes of rangers.

Ranked by who, exactly? We all know the guidebooks and online stats are crap. What we have to go on is what's been printed. Wolverine is superhumanly strong.... not as strong as Spidey, but definitely stronger then any human athlete could ever be.

Amassing muscle is a healing process, it makes perfect sense if you ask me.

It is that he is in the best of human conditioning ismy point, not whether he can dosuperhuman feats.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
or your same 1??

Whats your point there are many times wolverine has trouble with the likes of rangers.

when?

Originally posted by Pointinel
and the fact that people are on spidey's nuts all day, everyday

I'm beginning to like this guy...

Imagine how he was on a thread by a wolverine fanboy and missed that, seriously he's worse than a fanboy he's proven he knows nothing yet, he cant be biased on what he doesn't know.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Imagine how he was on a thread by a wolverine fanboy and missed that, seriously he's worse than a fanboy he's proven he knows nothing yet, he cant be biased on what he doesn't know.

Because he doesn't think as much of the discussion as you and has decided instead to make light of the situation? This is reason to insult him? To each his own.

No he started some crap with me earlier, read it, he said something when I was gone, and this guy starts some stuff with me too?

I have no problem with anyone, but you shoot I shoot back.

Wolverine Wins and this thread are basically the same. It's getting confusing back-and-forthing could we stick to one or the other

agreed...

amen