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Supe Skrull, IMHO. Unless the Mandarin has had a major power upgrade.

i'm not sure tbh. i wonder how ss would handle disintegration...the rings have def had an upgrade in the last decade or so though. not entirely sure how mandy would handle a nova blast but i'd think the darkness ring would prevent it. there's also the liar/mento ring. don't think ss would have defense against mind control. if it came down to it i think i'd take mandy here.

^ Funny thing about mind control is that one of Super-Skrull's powers is a potent hypnotic gaze. Not a one-off thing either. He's used it frequently.

Mandarin can win 🏆.

I thought mandarin did get an upgrade?

Dying would certainly feel like an upgrade for you, Carvie.

Super Skrull uses his forcefields

yeah i wasn't sure how effectively he could use them. a brain bubble would be impossible to defend for mandy, or an invisible spear in the back. could be your fave quickdraw scenario though i don't really think mandy would try disintegration first off and i doubt ss would use a brain bubble immediately. but you've convinced me to lean toward ss i think. the rings at one time capable of operating on their own though i think so it might be possible that even if ss does kill mandy, the rings might act on their own to kill ss. hmmm, back to not knowing for sure lol

Sure, just like the rings killed the Punisher vin

You and your fantasies, Leoni.

and......anyway, like i said--they may still function on their own unless something has proven otherwise. still unsure who takes this.

If we go by the highest showings of the rings, such as the Dragonseed Saga, where they are powerful enough to fight off ten Fin Fang Foom dragons at the same time, then Mandarin would win this.

Going by more typical showings, a guy who has both stretchy-powers and Thing-toughness is a terrible fight for Mandarin. A more typical showing for The Mandarin is creating an illusion, then nailing his opponent with a superhuman karate-chop while they don't know what to dodge. Trapping his opponent in ice, then nailing them with a superhuman karate-chop while they can't move. Making the opponent dizzy with a tornado, then nailing them with a superhuman karate-chop while they are staggering about. Etc. So more typical Mandarin is almost completely neutralized by the combination of Mister Fantastic and Thing's durability.

So basically, Dragonseed Saga Mandarin wins, almost all other versions lose.

Originally posted by leonidas
the rings at one time capable of operating on their own though i think so it might be possible that even if ss does kill mandy, the rings might act on their own to kill ss. hmmm, back to not knowing for sure lol That scenario still sounds like a win for SS though?

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i wasn't sure how effectively he could use them. a brain bubble would be impossible to defend for mandy, or an invisible spear in the back. could be your fave quickdraw scenario though i don't really think mandy would try disintegration first off and i doubt ss would use a brain bubble immediately. but you've convinced me to lean toward ss i think. the rings at one time capable of operating on their own though i think so it might be possible that even if ss does kill mandy, the rings might act on their own to kill ss. hmmm, back to not knowing for sure lol

Pretty effectively. And he's faster than thought:
https://i.imgur.com/Qh8eXQc.jpeg

NYC to the Palisades shore.

That's like 25 miles.

And as for FFs:
https://imgur.com/NVqe7yX

He doesn't need to be THAT skilled, tbf.

Super Skrull FTW