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Logan has all of his film feats (in his prime, not the Logan version)

Tchalla has his kinetic suit

WHO WINS

BANE DIES

^^^^^horribly

^ Namor stabbed through Shuri BP with his Vibranium spear.

Namor is of course vastly stronger, but was severely weakened at the time.

Assuming adamantium can stab through vibranium, then Logan probably takes it in time.

BP's agility and wall clinging will help. His best chance would be to build up enough Kinetic energy to go for a KO.

Aside from that it's unlikely his vibranium claws would do much, given Logan was getting stabbed by Adamantium swords, and still not losing to Deadpool (SPOILERS).

Logan outlasts and beats him.

Originally posted by playa1258
Logan outlasts and beats him.


Yeah probably.

One thing though, does BP have healing powers? Because Shuri got impaled with a Vibranium spear, but still recovered in time to win the fight before Namor got to the water.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah probably.

One thing though, does BP have healing powers? Because Shuri got impaled with a Vibranium spear, but still recovered in time to win the fight before Namor got to the water.

The herb does give healing attributes (Shuri's was a synthetic creation so probablly has even greater properties), but I believe her suit did most of the work by sealing the wound until proper medical attention could be had. She was surely in great pain.

When Killmonger was injured, T'Challa offered to heal him, but he refused, so we know the herb has those types of properties. In T'Challas case, it was explained that his illness was so severe even the herb couldn't restore his health, so it's healing properties are limited.

Originally posted by tkitna
In T'Challas case, it was explained that his illness was so severe even the herb couldn't restore his health, so its healing properties are limited.

Was it? I thought she was trying to recreate the herb to make to cure him. Thats why she blames Killmonger for TChalla being dead. (He obviously destroyed all the heart shaped herbs.

Good point though about Killmonger needing medical attention.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Was it? I thought she was trying to recreate the herb to make to cure him. Thats why she blames Killmonger for TChalla being dead. (He obviously destroyed all the heart shaped herbs.

Good point though about Killmonger needing medical attention.

Aww, your right. I had forgotten about that. Thanks.

BP probably has a healing factor on par with Cap's, heals a lot faster than a normal human, but it's not like Logan's, Deadpool's or Sabretooth's.

Which irrc, is in line with his comic counterpart.

The suit also probably has some medical properties. We already know that things like the Wakandan Kimoyo beads can be used for medical purposes, such as stabilising Everett Ross when he got shot in the spine. So, it stands to reason that the BP nano-tech suit, which is literally meant to be used in combat scenarios by their ruler, would incorporate similar technology.

In the comics it can, but that's not much to go by here in the movie section.

Admantium can cut through admantinum if it's heated up to glowing red levels as seen in The Wolverine.

Originally posted by Robtard
Admantium can cut through admantinum if it's heated up to glowing red levels as seen in The Wolverine.
Very true.

Originally posted by KingD19
Very true. Still an overall better showing for adamantium piercing vibranium, so I agree with what point.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The suit also probably has some medical properties. We already know that things like the Wakandan Kimoyo beads can be used for medical purposes, such as stabilising Everett Ross when he got shot in the spine. So, it stands to reason that the BP nano-tech suit, which is literally meant to be used in combat scenarios by their ruler, would incorporate similar technology.


Makes sense, but whatever healing their powers and suit give is obviously very limited next to Wolverine's healing ability given how Killmonger died.

Better question would be does Logan have enough super-strength to stab though something as durable as vibranium.

Originally posted by Robtard
Better question would be does Logan have enough super-strength to stab though something as durable as vibranium.
I'd say his strength showings over the years, and adding D&W would give him the ability to punch through it, especially since it's a cloth weave and not solid metal. The indestructibility+sharpness of his claws + his strength should let him push through the seams of the weave. Like in the movie when he muscled through that extremely thick and heavy vault door designed to hold back a matter/anti-matter reaction. And he yeeted Deadpool a few times. He physically fought with the Silver Samurai Bot. We can also scale him to X-24 who pushed that APC off of him and other stuff like that.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Makes sense, but whatever healing their powers and suit give is obviously very limited next to Wolverine's healing ability given how Killmonger died.

Yeah, definitely nothing on par with characters like Wolverine or Deadpool, especially after their latest movie where they both just soaked up damage like nothing. But Shuri was able to survive impalement, so it's still nothing to scoff at, though I'm also guessing that she got lucky and didn't sustain any vital organ damage from it, unlike Killmonger.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, definitely nothing on par with characters like Wolverine or Deadpool, especially after their latest movie where they both just soaked up damage like nothing. But Shuri was able to survive impalement, so it's still nothing to scoff at, though I'm also guessing that she got lucky and didn't sustain any vital organ damage from it, unlike Killmonger.

It's possible Killmonger took extra damage since the mag-lev train area they were fighting in was so potent it was actively degrading the integrity of their suits to the point you could see flesh underneath. Imagine what that would do to a body empowered by the Heart-Shaped Herb which is infused with Vibranium.

You broke up with me and as the punishment, your Colossus did a whole lot of nothing.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You broke up with me and as the punishment, your Colossus did a whole lot of nothing.

I guess we Cant have 3 indestructible heroes.

Either that or cant have another X-Man look stronger than Wolverine.

Or maybe Colossus has finally had enough of Wade's nonsense and decided to sit it out.

Originally posted by Robtard
Admantium can cut through admantinum if it's heated up to glowing red levels as seen in The Wolverine.

And cut through Barakapool's skeleton in Origins

Originally posted by KingD19
I'd say his strength showings over the years, and adding D&W would give him the ability to punch through it, especially since it's a cloth weave and not solid metal. The indestructibility+sharpness of his claws + his strength should let him push through the seams of the weave. Like in the movie when he muscled through that extremely thick and heavy vault door designed to hold back a matter/anti-matter reaction. And he yeeted Deadpool a few times. He physically fought with the Silver Samurai Bot. We can also scale him to X-24 who pushed that APC off of him and other stuff like that.

It's not like he didn't have super strength feats in previous movies

Pure feat wise

X-Men Origins: Wolverine
* Breaks free of medical restraints despite having been restrained across both his wrists, ankles, waist and chest, while also being underwater and just having finished his adamantium bonding process.
* Stopping the forward momentum of his motorcycle by stabbing into the ground
* Strikes the Browning machine gun mounted on a Humvee hard enough to make it spin around and hit a soldier hard enough to knock him off the vehicle and KO the soldier.
* Blocking Weapon XI's optic beams with his claws and deflecting them.
* And then without Adamantium he tosses Victor over his head and 10 feet with one hand.


The Wolverine

* Stabbing into a guy's hand and the table below him with an arriw
* Lifting and using a mountain/ off road bike as a melee weapon. Also stops another bike dragging him by stabbing the ground.
* Shattering the metal restraint on his hand by slamming it on the ground,
* Lifting and throwing the Silver Samurai suit which was heavy enough to punch a hole in a concrete wall by falling on it. He also tackled it through a couple metal railings.

X-Men: Days of Future Past
Without adamantium he:
* Overpowers Beast/Hank in human form
* Deflects metal projectiles thrown at him by Magneto


X-Men: Apocalypse
* Throws a Kevlar suited soldier into a metal pipe hard enough to break it

Logan
He's older and weaker but still snaps a shotgun in half

Scaling wise

X-Men 1
* Sending Mystique flying with a hit despite her blocking the same hit by grabbing his forearm with both hands
* Rocks Sabertooth with a kick when he's unfazed by being hit with a lightning bolt that blew him through a wall
* Reversing his momentum when Sabretooth lifted him over Sabe's head and threw him, by stabbing onto a metal spire
* Pins Sabretooth with leverage

X2
* Pins Lady Deathstryke with a hold before she reverses it, and then manages to move desoite her impaling him, having superior strength to him and leverage, and then stopping her charge cold

X-Men: The Last Stand
Powering through Phoenix Jean's TK twice


X-Men Origins: Wolverine
* Without adamantium he holds back Victor's hand, though with effemort amd Victor was not putting in much effort.
After adamantium
* Kicks Victor away hard enough to stagger him
* blocks his claw strike by impaling his hand with claws
* Knocks out Victor despite him tanking optic blasts and multi story floors
* Has Blob seeing stars with a leaping elbows after he dazed himself by headbutting Logan's adamantium skull

The Wolverine
* Blocks Silver Samurai's armor's sword strikes and holds it back with his claws despite those strikes being strong enough to shatter heavy machinery and the armor itself being heavy enough to shatter steel and concrete structures by falling in theme while also having strength to overpower him

Logan
He's much weaker than his prime but still
* Deflects X-24's claw strikes and blocks them with his own claws. He even holds those claws away from him while lying on the ground and X-24 having leverage advantage by standing over him.
* When X-24 throws him into an armored truck's door hard enough to break it cleanly off, Logan uses the same door to deflect X-24's charge and then pin him to the ground by the neck. X-24 had to cut the door away to be free.

And the many instances of him throwing people around.

Also, his bone claws can cut into brick, as shown just before the nuke scene in Wolverine. DOFP and Origins have him cut them into bones as well. So that itsskf should give the claws an extra oomph

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk


X-Men: The Last Stand
Powering through Phoenix Jean's TK twice




That was stupid though and should be ignored as a legit feat. Reason being is, he can't power through Magneto's TK, and Phoenix Jean's TK was > Magneto's control over metal.

So I'm gonna assume she was letting him get close enough to kill her.

Otherwise there was absolutely no reason she couldn't have given him the Cassandra Nova treatment.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That was stupid though and should be ignored as a legit feat. Reason being is, he can't power through Magneto's TK, and Phoenix Jean's TK was > Magneto's control over metal.

So I'm gonna assume she was letting him get close enough to kill her.

Otherwise there was absolutely no reason she couldn't have given him the Cassandra Nova treatment.

Well that goes for the finale one , what about the one where she kills Xavier?

Besides, Magneto always tried a crushing motion on Wolverine which she didn't. And he also lifted Logan off the ground, killing his leverage. At the end of the first X-Men movie, when Magneto didn't do that, Logan managed to stand hia ground
https://youtu.be/befZ7OKuTFc?si=88SfthxDA0fQnkNC

And Jean easily crushed him in the movie earlier when she wanted to, so it wasn't never shown to be behind her abilities.
https://youtu.be/e4_QUvz_-wE?si=XZeRY5kKydDi74Lp

Just that she focused on the disintegration more than the TK push, but he's still pushing through it.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Well that goes for the finale one , what about the one where she kills Xavier?

Besides, Magneto always tried a crushing motion on Wolverine which she didn't. And he also lifted Logan off the ground, killing his leverage. At the end of the first X-Men movie, when Magneto didn't do that, Logan managed to stand hia ground
https://youtu.be/befZ7OKuTFc?si=88SfthxDA0fQnkNC

And Jean easily crushed him in the movie earlier when she wanted to, so it wasn't never shown to be behind her abilities.
https://youtu.be/e4_QUvz_-wE?si=XZeRY5kKydDi74Lp

Just that she focused on the disintegration more than the TK push, but he's still pushing through it.


Okay but you agree she could completely control him if she wanted to the way Magneto always does? Probably more akin to the way Casandra Nova did right?

In which case it's very hard to quantify what force he was resisting, when she allowed him to resist.

But good point with the attack focused on Charles. But even in that one tobe fair his claws were helping him climb towards them.

Deadpool's swords are adamantium?

yes. they got upgraded by the tva in the movie.

And it's not speculation or anything. He says "Adamantium Katanas".

Originally posted by Darth Thor
he can't power through Magneto's TK

Yet he did in the first movie... that's how the X-Men saved the day

Also, Magneto doesn't use TK.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Okay but you agree she could completely control him if she wanted to the way Magneto always does? Probably more akin to the way Casandra Nova did right?
Yes no doubt



https://youtu.be/I404kms-j54?si=vicEgAyNGDdD2Uyk

Even with that, she was casually stopping scores of darts in a moment and pushing away buildings and cars without effort. A fraction of that while getting your flesh torn away is still impressive. Frankly, I consider the optic beam one equally PIS. Untill he pinned down the truck lifting X-24 in Logan, Wolverine hadn't done anything like that elsewhere.

Even with her allowing


https://youtu.be/AGu236vVT5E?si=_CObt_2YG-7xb20h

https://youtu.be/XeU6SJorcvw?si=GYUnbH4zgJ98AOoz

You can see a couch flying off to the roof as she starts throwing power around culminating in her lifting the entire house, pushing everyone onto the roof with nerfnaut struggling to keep his hold. And considering she telekinetically closed the doors, Logan still had to work against her TK to move even with claws and open the door.

In X3: Jean still had some control of her mind/body and was holding back the full might of the Phoenix force, why all of Logan's flesh was both not turned to ash instantly like the others and why he was able to push through. Jean wanted to die.

It's still impressive, but he's not more powerful than the Phoenix Force.

She asked Logan to kill her at least once in the movie before the end. Jean was fighting Phoenix to let Wolverine get close enough to end her. She started to fight back when she remembered that she killed Scott.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yet he did in the first movie... that's how the X-Men saved the day

Also, Magneto doesn't use TK.

Eh, Magneto was weakened after Rogue drained his powers, but he was still holding Logan back. Why Scott had to blast Mag's out of the way.

In the same film, we see at not weakened Mags casually immobilize Logan.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Also, Magneto doesn't use TK.


Yes but it's simpler to type.


Originally posted by Robtard
Eh, Magneto was weakened after Rogue drained his powers, but he was still holding Logan back. Why Scott had to blast Mag's out of the way.

In the same film, we see at not weakened Mags casually immobilize Logan.


Let him fanboy a little before you explain the obvious.

Originally posted by Robtard
In X3: Jean still had some control of her mind/body and was holding back the full might of the Phoenix force, why all of Logan's flesh was both not turned to ash instantly like the others and why he was able to push through. Jean wanted to die.

It's still impressive, but he's not more powerful than the Phoenix Force.

Nobody is saying that. I even posted the scene where she KOs him easily.

Are you sure?