Why kill the younglings

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darth vraya
Sorry if this has been done before but I searched and nothing came up. I wjust watche ROTS again and it got my dark mind to thinking. Why did they kill the younglings? Their minds were weak and could have easily been persuaded to the darkside. It would have made the empire unstoppable. I guess it was just because lucas wanted you to hate the darkside anakin but still it seemed very unclever of the coniving sidious

Revolver Ocelot
Because killing Younglings would be an excellent way to enhance Anakin's dark sidedness. Also, any youngling that escaped them would become a potential threat later. Best to slaughter them all and not be sorry later.

darth vraya
True but they could kill the ones who fought them e.g. Zett Jukassa and then enslave and corrupt the rest. Besides if one were to escape, it is not like they would complete their training so they would be so-so with a lightsaber but other than that they would be just any normal person

SnakeEyes
Because it was awesome, man!

Didn't you enjoy the slaughtering of little children?

evil face

darth vraya
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Because it was awesome, man!

Didn't you enjoy the slaughtering of little children?

evil face yes who couldn't evil face but still come on, mindless killing, or becoming unstoppable think sids think!

locuasohappy
because the padawans were a threat to the empire; i mean look at luke he escaped the empire and with a bit of training from the remaining jedi he beat darth vader and could have beaten sidious if he didnt drop (throw) his weapon.

darth vraya
Originally posted by locuasohappy
because the padawans were a threat to the empire; i mean look at luke he escaped the empire and with a bit of training from the remaining jedi he beat darth vader and could have beaten sidious if he didnt drop (throw) his weapon. not the padawans the younglings (there is a huge difference) for instance when Anakin began his training in episode one, that is a youngling. In episode two is when anakin is a padawan. The younglings are little kids who are barely trained in the force. They were not a threat to the empire at all.

Jedi Priestess
Dude I cant believe you even asked this question.

sithsaber408
Originally posted by darth vraya
not the padawans the younglings (there is a huge difference) for instance when Anakin began his training in episode one, that is a youngling. In episode two is when anakin is a padawan. The younglings are little kids who are barely trained in the force. They were not a threat to the empire at all.

Watch EP3 with the commentary on.

Lucas says that the emporer knew that they had to kill EVERY Jedi, cause if even one of the little kids lived, they would come back later to get him.

He knew that even 3 or 4, with training in sensing the Force and lightsaber handling, no matter how elementary, would practice and grow on their own, and years later he couldn't pwn them like mace and co.

Sesse
Plus.

Always 2 there are. No more, no less.

Council#13
Like many of the other people have stated, the younglings could grow up and become potential threats to the empire, even if they are not properly trained. also, Sidious stated, "If the Jedi learn of what has happened here, it will be civil war without end." If the younglings learned about it, they could have informed senators (e.g. Bail Organa) and there would be a civil war. well, of course Bail did see what was happening, and well, despite Palpatine's planning a war did break out

Mišt
Youngling: "Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?"

Anakin (thinking to himself): "Dammit, even these kids can act better than me..."
















*ignites lightsaber*no expression

Council#13
laughing thats sooooo funny!!! hysterical

PVS
2 factors:

1-always 2 there are. no more, no less.

2-anakin is the chosen one a.k.a. most powerful jedi (before the roasting that is)

why would sidious need the younglings? thats right, he didnt. however, i bet after vader fried he was wishing he had one.

Sesse
Those younglings could have been used to donate organs and tissues for Anakin? I bet his several vital organs didnt like getting cooked.

roughrider
For the reasons stated above: all of them had to die, to make the Jedi Order crumble completely. And to make Anakin more intoxicated with the Dark Side.
Plus, it's not in Palpatine's interest to have an army of Sith, raised from those younglings. That was the undoing of the Sith a thousand years earlier in their war with the Jedi. The Dark Side makes you crave more and more power; you eventually then plot to kill your master, to get more power. Since then, the Sith survived by never being more than two at any time, until the time came for them to strike. Palpatine pretty much confessed to killing his own master to Anakin.
Decades later, Palpatine suspected Vader wants to do him in and rule with Luke. But he believes he can get the better of both of them, by having them fight to the death in ROTJ. Whoever survived, would continue to be his servent.

truejedi
Originally posted by Council#13
laughing thats sooooo funny!!! hysterical

You know what's funny? I keep trying to read this thread, and thinking about star wars, and i keep finding myself staring at carmen electra. the first time it happened, i ignored it, and the second, but by the third it was starting to bother me. lol. great pic

Red Superfly
1. Because it would have been shown as compassion. Being a sith means you tend to do really bastardy things.

2. Because they are called "younglings". laughing

sPeAkMyLiNgO22
I think younger kids are annoying. I don't really care why they killed them or not. no expression



THEY'RE DEAD THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS. stick out tongue

Revolver Ocelot
See, the younglings did not have to become Sith. They could have been Dark Jedi, there were at least 50 personally trained by Palpatine in the 20 years of darkness.

Besides if one were to escape, it is not like they would complete their training so they would be so-so with a lightsaber but other than that they would be just any normal person

Tell that to Luke Skywalker...

Sesse
Perhaps they were "too old" to be tained?


The Sith knew better not to take too old children in training... They tend to switch sides.

darth vraya
Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
See, the younglings did not have to become Sith. They could have been Dark Jedi, there were at least 50 personally trained by Palpatine in the 20 years of darkness.

Besides if one were to escape, it is not like they would complete their training so they would be so-so with a lightsaber but other than that they would be just any normal person

Tell that to Luke Skywalker... Luke Skywalker had plenty of training before he even faced Darth Vader. Obi wan and Yoda trained him a lot.

Captain REX
The Emperor doesn't want little kids that he has to put up with in training, and any Jedi is a potential threat should he escape the clutches of Vader.

Council#13
Originally posted by truejedi
You know what's funny? I keep trying to read this thread, and thinking about star wars, and i keep finding myself staring at carmen electra. the first time it happened, i ignored it, and the second, but by the third it was starting to bother me. lol. great pic

thank you

DiamondBullets
Originally posted by darth vraya
Sorry if this has been done before but I searched and nothing came up. I wjust watche ROTS again and it got my dark mind to thinking. Why did they kill the younglings? Their minds were weak and could have easily been persuaded to the darkside. It would have made the empire unstoppable. I guess it was just because lucas wanted you to hate the darkside anakin but still it seemed very unclever of the coniving sidious

"Every single Jedi, including your friend, Obi-Wan Kenobi, is now an enemy of the Republic!"

^ That line right there shoulda kept you from making this thread.

Darth Nepulis

Tarvos
Pretty much everything what's his face said on Page 1.

1. Always to there are, a master and an apprentice.

2. If Anakin had defeated Obi-Wan he would've become the most powerful Jedi ever, or at least so it was said.

Most powerful Jedi ever > A bunch of Gerber kids.

Darth Subjekt
Cause it would be fun...wouldnt you just love to go in a room and kill a bunch of little brats that prolly wet their beds? I like how that one kid started to reach for his lightsaber but then thought about it and didnt...i was like, this kid alomost dropped his nuts! kid was gangsta! lol

Tarvos
Thoughts of killing little kids isn't fun at all unless it's Numan.

Blaxican_Hydra
actually....hm...killing little kids..that sounds like it might be fun. Pu them all in a cage and take pot shots at them with a shotgun...killing three with one shot...could be intresting.

Tthe Almighty
Originally posted by darth vraya
Sorry if this has been done before but I searched and nothing came up. I wjust watche ROTS again and it got my dark mind to thinking. Why did they kill the younglings? Their minds were weak and could have easily been persuaded to the darkside. It would have made the empire unstoppable. I guess it was just because lucas wanted you to hate the darkside anakin but still it seemed very unclever of the coniving sidious

they are not called younglings, they are padawan, he might have done it to show he is evil and a be a dark lord, and who cares if they die they can train more when the empire is rebuilt.

Cascador

Blaxican_Hydra

Tthe Almighty
fair enough but i have heard them being called padawan by yoda in episode 1

Tangible God
They're "Padawans," but they're a certain type of Padawan... the youngling.

Cascador
the thing is I think...Jedi are collected when they are very young...we all know that since they said Anakin was too old to be trained while he was only 9...When you are collected you become a youngling (I don't think it's a title) and you get to be trained in groups like in episode II with Yoda. Then when you become older you can be chosen by a Jedi Knight or higher rank to become his padawan, since you can only have one padawan. Anakin skipped the training of a youngling, he immediatly got a master

Tarvos
Padawan can be broken down into subranks.

1. Youngling
2. Student
3. Apprentice

Tangible God
Then Knight, Master, Winemaker.

Alliance
lol Mist

mmm...Master Whinemakers...I belive all skywalkers have reached this level of training...it appears to come most naturally.

I really think they should have shown Anakin taking a swing at the kids though...too cheesy to cut it before. Actually i think one of the kidt should have sliced off his leg with a training saber...lol

That whole sequence was too short...I wanted to see more of my clones slaughtering jedi...and more clones in general!

Tangible God
Clones kick biologically enginereed ass.

MC_GG
If Palpatine used his brain in ROTJ (which he didnt) he could've brought Luke to the dark side. If Palpatine told Luke that Vader killed younglings to get to where he is, Luke would've killed Vader without any remorse.

Alliance
Originally posted by Tangible God
Clones kick biologically enginereed ass.

Clones kick all ass! laughing

Red Superfly
Originally posted by MC_GG
If Palpatine used his brain in ROTJ (which he didnt) he could've brought Luke to the dark side. If Palpatine told Luke that Vader killed younglings to get to where he is, Luke would've killed Vader without any remorse.

Maybe not. Luke knew Vader was responsible for a lot of bad shit in the galaxy. Luke blamed Vader for Owen and Beru's death, he lost his hand and he tortured his friends, but he always knew Vader was being manipulated by Palpatine.

Also, Luke was told about the Jedi skirmish by Obi-Wan, so he'd just assume Vader was responsible for killing the young Jedi aswell.

Even if Palpatine told Luke about Vader killing the kids, Luke would blame Palpatine and forgive his father, just as he forgave him for all the other crap he did to his friends, relatives and himself.

The key issue was that Luke knew Anakin used to be a good man. Nobody would accept that a once decent man would suddenly become evil, and leave all of their past self behind. He knew Vader commited terrible things already, but he knew it couldn't have been his will that did it.

darht dude
anakin turned to the dark side wadda u think he kills everybody

Sesse
Anakin was a good boy 40 years ago... Since then it has been an uphill battle for him.

darht dude
you know what they could have showed???? the yonglings fighting back at anakin but nooo george lucas didn't want to put that kinda scene in there!

darth vraya
actually no... what lucas did was, he didn't want to show a bunch of kids being slashed by a lightsaber. there are still ethics in pg13 movies ya no.

Alliance
a good point...but still, it was asad to not see the jedi but a decent fight!...ther should have showed more shots from the temple in general.

Tangible God
Why'd he kill the Younglings?

Palpatine said to "kill all the Jedi in the Temple." So leaving Jedi Younglings behind would hardly qualify as killing all the Jedi.

Sesse
Who spoke of "all jedi"?


Every single Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic...

Single: unmarried: not married or related to the unmarried state; "unmarried men and women"; "unmarried life"; "sex and the single girl"; "single parenthood"; "are you married or single?"

So only Jedi without wives were enemies.

Restricted_Jedi
Be the rational as it is/may/you think, it DOES NOT make sense that Anakin is prepared in any way to commit those murders of children. Palpatine has not EVEN come CLOSE to preparing or manipulating him enough to do that. It is BY FAR the weakest link in the overall plot of the entire series. Lucas, I'm so sorry, but you blew that. For Anakin to turn, a much stronger motive is needed.

C-3POTheClever
Wel, for one thign the Sth don't train more than one appretece at a time, & with all those youngling, who's train them in the ways of the darkside? Palpatine was already the master of Darth Vader.

queeq
Originally posted by Sesse
Who spoke of "all jedi"?


Every single Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic...

Single: unmarried: not married or related to the unmarried state; "unmarried men and women"; "unmarried life"; "sex and the single girl"; "single parenthood"; "are you married or single?"

So only Jedi without wives were enemies.

laughing out loud

C-3POTheClever
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Because it was awesome, man!

Didn't you enjoy the slaughtering of little children?

evil face

Psycopath...... LOL

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Restricted_Jedi
Be the rational as it is/may/you think, it DOES NOT make sense that Anakin is prepared in any way to commit those murders of children. Palpatine has not EVEN come CLOSE to preparing or manipulating him enough to do that. It is BY FAR the weakest link in the overall plot of the entire series. Lucas, I'm so sorry, but you blew that. For Anakin to turn, a much stronger motive is needed. Lol no.






Also, I stand by what I said almost a decade ago.

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