Slade vs the Taskmaster, but with a twist.

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Thunderstrike
No weapons. The fight takes place in a Dojo, and both are wearing traditional gi, but their trademark masks and colors. Both have watched tapes of the other fighting. Slade watched Tasky fight Batman, and Taskmaster watched Slade's fights with Batman.

Murda Mase
So then Taskmaster has both Batman and Slade's fighting styles going into that fight?

Taskmaster takes this.

He has damn near every top fighters style in the MU already anyways.

soleran30
Originally posted by Murda Mase
So then Taskmaster has both Batman and Slade's fighting styles going into that fight?

Taskmaster takes this.

He has damn near every top fighters style in the MU already anyways.

Yeah know taskmaster despite his infinitely cool power loses to everyone. Who or what makes you think he can beat Slade who throws with Batgirl?

Thunderstrike
Because he took out the Avengers by himself. That's something Slade couldn't pull off without jobbing.

The Fake Macoy
Does anyone have scans of him vs. the avengers? It's hard to tell from the descriptions I've heard if it was just all the avengers jobbing or if TM won for real.

Thunderstrike
Well, TM came prepared. He is great with prep. Basically, he has a mock up of Cap's shield, Hawkeye's bow, and Black Knight's sword. Basically, as he picked up their fighting styles, he could predict what they were going to do next. If you go to the Deadpool respect thread, you'll see how he does it.

soleran30
Slade doesn't need to copy anyone, he just beats their arse down. Slade is very good with prep as well...................poor taskmaster doesn't have the physical stats to keep up with Deathstroke.

Thunderstrike
Fist fight. No weapons of jobbing for Slade here.

soleran30
I didn't say he was using weapons I was commenting on taskmasters prep and made an association to slade with it.

Slade should best Taskmaster, his stats are much better and he is a master at h2h combat he is constantly battling against much stronger ppl then himself oh and winning I mean.

Thunderstrike
Give me an instance where he isn't jobbing and I'll believe you. Many of Slade's bigger showings are loads upon loads of plot induced stupidity. Taskmaster has higher feat showings than Slade does. All Slade really is is Captain America with USAgent's strength, but likes to pick on kids. Taskmaster has owned Cap on more than one occasion.

Murda Mase
Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Does anyone have scans of him vs. the avengers? It's hard to tell from the descriptions I've heard if it was just all the avengers jobbing or if TM won for real.

http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takongdownavengers19rh4cf.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takongdownavengers28jp9rv.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takongdownavengers31fr3bj.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4752/takongdownavengers41uu7nl.jpg

Here he is taking out Ironman again
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takesironman4nv3pc.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takesironman22ib0zs.jpg
http://img446.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takesironman35un2op.jpg

soleran30
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Give me an instance where he isn't jobbing and I'll believe you. Many of Slade's bigger showings are loads upon loads of plot induced stupidity. Taskmaster has higher feat showings than Slade does. All Slade really is is Captain America with USAgent's strength, but likes to pick on kids. Taskmaster has owned Cap on more than one occasion.


Not only does he like to pick on kids but he is also very very fast, much faster then cap! Much better in H2H fighting or at least equal and hyper senses let him see things comparetively in slow motion.

Healing Factor thanks
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladedurable4xa.jpg

Here is our man hanging with WW
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5668393
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5668397

Colossus who
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5668420

Looks like Spiderman got a New Costume.nope
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladesuperman7yh.jpg

Later Nightwing
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight14tc.jpg

Teen Titans good night
http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladekidflash7bi.jpg

Then there are also the times he has beaten Batman as well.

Murda Mase
Originally posted by soleran30
Slade doesn't need to copy anyone, he just beats their arse down. Slade is very good with prep as well...................poor taskmaster doesn't have the physical stats to keep up with Deathstroke.

Yeah he does

Here he is watching and copying a bullet catch trick. Then beating the guys ass whos fast enough to catch bullets, but Taskmasters that fast now too.
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyingbulletcatach17kr7gh.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyingbulletcatach22td1kx.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyingbulletcatach30uj1ie.jpg
http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyingbulletcatach40po7pd.jpg

Here he says hes got the combined acrobatic repertoire of Daredevil and Spider-Man.
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1131ta2se.jpg


Plus If he can beat and twice stalemate Spider-Man then I'd say he has the physical stats.

soleran30
Taskmaster can only increase his reflex's agility to match spiderman for a short time, he has said his body can only handle it for a little bit.

Thunderstrike
Originally posted by soleran30
Not only does he like to pick on kids but he is also very very fast, much faster then cap! Much better in H2H fighting or at least equal and hyper senses let him see things comparetively in slow motion.

Healing Factor thanks
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladedurable4xa.jpg

Here is our man hanging with WW
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5668393
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5668397

Colossus who
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5668420

Looks like Spiderman got a New Costume.nope
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladesuperman7yh.jpg

Later Nightwing
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight14tc.jpg

Teen Titans good night
http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladekidflash7bi.jpg

Then there are also the times he has beaten Batman as well.

I've read all those. Slade respect thread. Doesn't really show he's a better hand to hand fighter. Also, didn't Wolverine kick Slade's ass in the X-Men/Teen Titans crossover?

Murda Mase
Originally posted by soleran30
Taskmaster can only increase his reflex's agility to match spiderman for a short time, he has said his body can only handle it for a little bit.


I don't remeber him saying that.

Here he is even saying he can duplicate Spider-Man's speed and agility.
http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beatingspidermanstraightup28rw.jpg

So he would just copy Slade's speed and agility too.

Plus he already knows his moves and Batman's moves.

Thunderstrike
He already knew Batman's from JLA/Avengers. I still wanna see that fight, and the one between Cap and Prometheus.

Mider
so taskmaster can copy speed too?

godking
Originally posted by Murda Mase
I don't remeber him saying that.

Here he is even saying he can duplicate Spider-Man's speed and agility.
http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beatingspidermanstraightup28rw.jpg

So he would just copy Slade's speed and agility too.

Plus he already knows his moves and Batman's moves. That scan clearly says he can copy a move WITHIN limitations . Taskmaster is still only human Slade is above human . Taskmaster can copy but not with exactly the same speed and strength as Slade .

Soleran
Originally posted by godking
That scan clearly says he can copy a move WITHIN limitations . Taskmaster is still only human Slade is above human . Taskmaster can copy but not with exactly the same speed and strength as Slade .


Exactly...........................Taskmaster takes a dirtnap against a metahuman like slade who will kill.

brainchild81
If Slade is as he should be, a meta, he wins. If he's the guy that has to "fight" with Nightwing & Batman, he gets the living s**t beat out of him because Taskmaster would trash them with no problem.

srankmissingnin
Taskmaster's normal speed is around the level of Daredevil, his bullet catching feat is most likely a result of him amping up his stats with chi, which he has shown to have at least limited knowledge and use of.

I don't know why some people think that Slade is anywher close to a match for people like Cap and Bats in h2h skill. He was never that good, Addie was better then he was, Wintergreen was better then he was and if Pam wasn't she sure as he was close. The reason he does so well agaisn't people like Batman is because he is physically his superior, and still he limbs away from battles and Nightwing has one upped Slade twice, he has even over welmed him with his speed and agility.

Slade gets way to much respect around here. He took the Teen Titans when they were green and had no team work to speak of. Big deal. When Jerico had possesion of his body he was never fighting more then two of the Titans at a time and Cyborg and Beastboy (dispite fighting like idots) had him beat easily until they found out he was Jericho. With out prep Slade isn't such a big shot, streets give him trouble and even beat him some times.

Taskmaster wins.

brainchild81
I like Taskmaster waaaaaaaay more than I like Slade. I've noticed that either people overrate Slade or underrate him. Few get it just right. Slade shouldn't have much trouble against Bats or NW. His h2h knowledge is below theirs, but his physical stats more than fill the gap. On the other hand, his showing against some of the lamest members of the JLA (Flash & G.Arrow were there, but they are cool) was flat out PIS. Flash should kick Slade's a$$ in between heartbeats.

Murda Mase
One of Flash's powers is PIS/CIS.

Soleran
Regardless Slade is far above Taskmaster. He should win the majority of times.

Mider
being fast enough to react to the flash aint PIS he's done it to kid flash more then once sooooo its not PIS, how did he take out and what did green arrow do that was so great that he should beat deathstroke, deathstroke beating the GL with out some kind of super prep like promethius then yeah thats PIS.

Murda Mase
Of corse hes done it more then once, thats one of Flash's powers.

srankmissingnin
... Flash has light speed reflexes, there is no possible way that any reasonable person could possibly justify Slade hitting the Flash.

Thunderstrike
Thus the term jobber. He can't hit Flash or Superman if they're going full speed. I'm posting this pic HUGE so everybody can realize that Slade can't do it.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7082/blitzslade28pi8ru.jpg

Looks like Captain Precog just got embedded into a wall.

srankmissingnin
I don't know why people think Slade has precog. He never had that power, his daughter Rose did and even hers is extremely limited

Thunderstrike
He's just a great strategist. Most of the occurences people pick are times when the battle was rigged in Slade's favor. In this fight, that's all non-applicable. It's about Martial Arts skill.

Tron
He doesn't have precog, but he can still think very, very, very, very (I think y'all get it), fast. That'll be the main thing that beats Taskmaster.

Thunderstrike
Check the stipulations of the match:
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
No weapons. The fight takes place in a Dojo, and both are wearing traditional gi, but their trademark masks and colors. Both have watched tapes of the other fighting. Slade watched Tasky fight Batman, and Taskmaster watched Slade's fights with Batman.

Given Taskmaster's skills, he knows Slade's fighting style. He also has the styles of:
Anaconda
Ant-Man II
Batman
Batroc
Beast
Black Widow II
Blizzard II
Boomerang
Bushwacker
Blacklash
Black Knight III
Black Panther
Captain America
Cat
Conquest
Daredevil
Deadpool
Diamondback II
Eel II
Elektra
Falcon
Fatale
Firestar
Goliath III
Hawkeye
Headhunter
Hulk
Huntress (DC)
Iron Fist
Jack O' Lantern
Justice
Libra (DC)
MACH-IV
Machete
Mister X II
Nomad III
Oddball
Photon III
Porcupine
Puma
Punisher
Quicksilver
Razorfist
Ringer
Saguri
Scarlet Witch
Shatterhead
She-Hulk
Shockwave
Silverclaw
Silver Samurai
Siren
Speed Demon
Spider-man
Stiltman
Swordsman
Thing
Toad
Tigra
Trapster
Triathlon
Tumbler
USAgent
Vision
Warbird
Whiplash II
Whirlwind
Wolverine
Wonder Man
Yellowjacket
Zaran
to his advantage.

Dizzle
Yes, however, it's not about knowing the moves, it's about using them well, which is where Taskmaster ultimately falls short of being an uber godly h2h fighter. Slade fluctuates a lot. Batman gives him a run one day, the next, he humiliates Batgirl. He's been compared, skillwise, to Lady Shiva, but is given a real challenge by Nightwing. I personally go for his higher end feats, partly because I like Deathstroke, and partly because taht's what I feel his original purpose was: a team wrecker. I really am more inclined to believe that one person would job to Batman as opposed to a good chunk of the JLA jobbing to that one guy.

Taskmaster is good, but ultimately, not as fast as Slade, in terms of reactions. (which I don't think he can copy, unless Slade actually moves that fast) He's good, yes, but so is Slade. It really wouldn't surprise me if Deathstroke figured out what Taskmaster was doing, either from the tapes or from seeing his own moves coming back at him. He's at least skilled enough to know counters to his own moves, and he still does bring a fairly significant physical advantage, especially when Tasky's best trick is moving double human speed, which wears him out very quickly, and is still not much faster/not even faster than Slade.

Basically, I doubt even Taskmaster should prove too much for Deathstroke, depending on if you take his higher or lower end feats.

Thunderstrike
Here's the big thing: Taskmaster has been able to go toe to toe with people as fast as Slade, if not faster. He leveled the entire Avengers team with a bow, shield, and sword. Also, since he has watched Slade fight on a tape, he will already know how fast he moves. He'd know what to dodge and when. The benefit of photographic reflexes.

Psyquis52
the porcupine?

doesn't that hurt his fighting ability? laughing out loud

Dizzle
True, he's fought people faster, and he's fought people who are probably as skilled, and he's fought people who are stronger, but has he fought Slade? No, he's a mix of all of those. If we want to get into team fights, Slade mauled the JLA with a sword, a bomb or two, and a tiny laser. And he's dominated the Titans on more than one occasion with less than that... And hey, with prep, Hawkeye took out a big chunk of the Thunderbolts, and was ready to take all of them.

Hell, if Deathstroke's really smart (which he is) he could do some kind of attack that ends up hurting him subtly, healing from it, and watching Taskmaster take himself out trying to copy it. Hell, Daredevil made him jump in front of a truck, it's not that much of a stretch. Slade's overall skills are still slightly in question, but with his physical and mental advantages, I don't see Taskmaster's copied moves really being more than he can handle.

Thunderstrike
Tasky is also a genius when it comes to battles. He can mix and match any of those abilities at will. He's not just going to use Slade's fighting abilities. He's also going to use everyone he's ever fought against.

Dizzle
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Tasky is also a genius when it comes to battles. He can mix and match any of those abilities at will. He's not just going to use Slade's fighting abilities. He's also going to use everyone he's ever fought against.

When's the last time you saw Taskmaster pull out a signature move of the Porcupine? roll eyes (sarcastic) It's not like Taskmaster has outfought everyone he's ever been thrown against, he CAN be beaten.

The fact still remains that Daredevil outsmarted him. Given Slade's healing factor, he could easily pull off a move that would all but incapacitate Taskmaster but wouldn't slow him down much at all. The man healed from open heart surgery nigh on instantly. Which just so happens to be another huge advantage of his over Tasky, I might add...

long pig
TM gets eaten, no fanboy BS. TM just doesn't have what it takes.

Tm's biggest speed feet was doubling his own speed-making him 2x faster than a peak human. Fast enough to catch bullets.

Sounds impressive, but it ain't.
Slade's biggest speed feet was tagging three different Flashes at three different times.

Slade, before upgrades, was 10x peak human in speed, making him 5 x faster than TM's fastest move.

Slade has slapped away bullets...with his army knife, at point blank range AFTER the ****ing thing left the gun.

TM have the skill level superiority, but his most powerful form of MA he copied from Batman, and Slade has make Bats look like a fool in skill AND speed/strength.

Not only couldn't TM copy Slade's moves, he wouldn't be capable of even reading them.

Strength: Slade
Speed: Slade
Smarts: Slade
Healing: Slade
Durability: Slade.

TM has...uh, slightly more skill in h2h. that's it.

Editted by Tron to take away those faces.wink

Thunderstrike
Originally posted by long pig
TM gets eaten, no fanboy BS. TM just doesn't have what it takes.

Tm's biggest speed feet was doubling his own speed-making him 2x faster than a peak human. Fast enough to catch bullets.

Sounds impressive, but it ain't.
Slade's biggest speed feet was tagging three different Flashes at three different times.

Slade, before upgrades, was 10x peak human in speed, making him 5 x faster than TM's fastest move.

Slade has slapped away bullets...with his army knife, at point blank range AFTER the ****ing thing left the gun.

TM have the skill level superiority, but his most powerful form of MA he copied from Batman, and Slade has make Bats look like a fool in skill AND speed/strength.

Not only couldn't TM copy Slade's moves, he wouldn't be capable of even reading them.

Strengthmessedlade
Speedmessedlade
Smartsmessedlade
Healing: Slade
Durability: Slade.



TM has...uh, slightly more skill in h2h. that's it.
Hmmm. He can read Quicksilver's moves, but not Slades? Last time I checked, Quicksilver>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Slade. If you look on that list, there are a LOT of people who's fighting skills straight out make Slade look like a punk. Also, about every time he has tagged the Flash, he's rigged it so that there's only one way for them to go, so there goes that idea. Also, let's see how Slade REALLY does against Super-speed.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7082/blitzslade28pi8ru.jpg
He's soooo quick, isn't he? Looks like he was eating wall for about a year after that moment.

Soleran
lol I could care less that Taskmaster knows all those forms. Slade is above Taskmaster, there isn't anything Taskmaster is going to do to Slade he cannot recover from VERY quickly. Yet one or 2 well placed blows from Slade will keep Taskmaster down.

Juntai
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Hmmm. He can read Quicksilver's moves, but not Slades? Last time I checked, Quicksilver>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Slade. If you look on that list, there are a LOT of people who's fighting skills straight out make Slade look like a punk. Also, about every time he has tagged the Flash, he's rigged it so that there's only one way for them to go, so there goes that idea. Also, let's see how Slade REALLY does against Super-speed.

He's soooo quick, isn't he? Looks like he was eating wall for about a year after that moment. Except for the time he chased Kid Flash down on foot and knocked the ground out from underneath him or the time he kneecapped Kid Flash, or the time he schooled Flash in his comic, when he got up after Wally blindsided him. Slade dealing with Superspeed has been shown more often than an inability to do so.

Thunderstrike
I'm doubting that Kid Flash was moving at full speed. Also, when he kneecapped him, the kid had been hit with a tranquilizer beforehand. Also, when Wally blindsided him, he rolled with the punch and tagged Wally with his other hand. It's textbook for when you're fighting a faster opponent. He's a master strategist, not precognative.

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