Human Torch and Thing vs. Mindless Hulk

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Betageuze
Fantastic Four often fought the Hulk.. and it was often luck that they survived....

Torch and Thing.... against the most powerful human beeing on gods green earth... who wins ?

Hulk_Power
If Hulk has taken on ALL 4 of them and still beaten them then what makes you think that just 2 of them will be able to take him down? That makes no sense. Hulk would win this 8 or 9/10.

Thunderstrike
They couldn't even stop him normally. How the hell are they gonna stop the mindless version? Harsh language?

Hulk_Power
HT's Super Nova doesn't even affect the Hulk and Thing obviously can't beat the Hulk so the Fantastic 2 are going down.

Betageuze
is super nova the strongest blast the Torch can give to hulk ?

can hulk survive a full super nova blast.... the strongest blast Torch can offer ?

Thunderstrike
It takes something along the lines of Namor or Thor to take Hulk down. Hercules nearly killed the Mindless one.

Betageuze
WHEN HERCULES NEARLY KILLED MINDLESS HULK

??????????????????

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Betageuze
is super nova the strongest blast the Torch can give to hulk ?

can hulk survive a full super nova blast.... the strongest blast Torch can offer ?

He's done it on the Hulk before and Hulk wasn't phased by it at all. I guess that's HT's strongest attack or something. I'm not sure.

Thunderstrike
When the Avengers fought him.

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
It takes something along the lines of Namor or Thor to take Hulk down. Hercules nearly killed the Mindless one.

Hercules almost killed Mindless Hulk? Are you sure about that because Hulk was the one that almost killed Hercules if I do recall.

Betageuze
Hulk has taken on

Namor, Iron Man, Wonderman AND .. Hercules .. at the same time.....
and i have heard... Hulk has fought the whole Avengers team before... ?

assumed.. it is well written.. HOW Hercules can nearly kill a Mindless Hulk ????


make no sense.. to me

Thunderstrike
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The only people that really did any good during that were Namor, Thor, and Herc.

and Betzague, STOP TYPING LIKE YOU'RE IMITATING WILLIAM SHATNER!

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Betageuze
Hulk has taken on

Namor, Iron Man, Wonderman AND .. Hercules .. at the same time.....
and i have heard... Hulk has fought the whole Avengers team before... ?

assumed.. it is well written.. HOW Hercules can nearly kill a Mindless Hulk ????


make no sense.. to me

You're right. Hulk has taken on all of those characters before and beaten them ALL. Hercules never came close to even hurting the Hulk. He also took on Cap and She Hulk and still won against them.

Psyquis52
Hulk wins. Maybe if it were a different hulk this would be closer.

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
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The only people that really did any good during that were Namor, Thor, and Herc.

and Betzague, STOP TYPING LIKE YOU'RE IMITATING WILLIAM SHATNER!

Oh wow. Big deal. So he hit Hulk with a big ass pipe. Are you kidding me? That doesn't even come close to killing the Hulk. Hulk still kicked their asses.

Thunderstrike
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The comics say different. Hercules could have killed Hulk if Betty hadn't interfered. Hercules written at his best is just as strong.

Betageuze
come..... and where here Herc nearly killed the hulk ?

even herc had the advantage here (which i dont know).. you cannot seee this as a fair one on one fight... because of the team.....

and i get infos... that in this fight.. hulk had the upper hand..... until Doc Samson interferred

Thunderstrike
No. Read the scans again. Hulk was winning until Herc came in and tore him up.

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
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The comics say different. Hercules could have killed Hulk if Betty hadn't interfered. Hercules written at his best is just as strong.

Yeah well Herc and Hulk are only on the same strength level for a short while. Only until Hulk gets pissed and gets stronger. That's when Herc goes down and Hulk wins. Besides, Herc didn't take Hulk on alone. He needed help from Wonder Man and Namor. So therefore he didn't take on the Hulk and beat him alone. It took him and others to take the Hulk out. Not just Herc.

Betageuze
but this is not the end of the match .. right ?

the last screen shot says to me...that the rest of the team said.. that they have to end it quick.. in the background.... herc and hulk fought...
and then.. a voice interferred

why you believe herc has nearly killed hulk here ?

i dont understand....

hey..... by the way... why you think i imitate Captain Kirk ?

Thunderstrike
Meh. Mindless Hulk was overrated. He was just a big green ape.

Betageuze
who won this match ? between Namor, Iron Man Wonderman and Herc... against hulk ?

was their a clear result ?

Betageuze
i agree.... Hercules is a awesome powerful individual.. and in my opinion.. one of the 25 most powerful individuals .. by physical strength.. in DC and Marvel Universe...

and the strongest here.... in this match.. beside .. Hulk

but Hercules never beaten Hulk ...

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Betageuze
who won this match ? between Namor, Iron Man Wonderman and Herc... against hulk ?

was their a clear result ?

Hulk took everyone on and others too (She Hulk and Cap) and still won.

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Meh. Mindless Hulk was overrated. He was just a big green ape.

I guess you're right but he's still a tough ass ape to beat.

Betageuze
so .. hulk is the strongest here....

hulk .. is the winner here

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Betageuze
so .. hulk is the strongest here....

hulk .. is the winner here

Out of Thing and Human Torch, yeah he's definitely the strongest one.

Between Herc and him, they're pretty much on the same level until Hulk's strength starts to increase as he gets madder.

Betageuze
i also... will see it like this

Hercules is unbelievable strong..and a damn good hand to hand fighter...

he is close on hulks level.... but as you said... the madder he gets..

Thunderstrike
Hulk's kinda having hell on Planet Hulk though. I'm guessing Fixit is his dominant personality right now.

Betageuze
Mindless Hulk.. is the strongest non immortal beeing in Marvel Universe...

Thunderstrike
Savage has higher strength feats.

Betageuze
has not mindless hulk limitless strength level.... ?

Thunderstrike
Any incarnation of the Hulk aside from Fixit has a limitless strength level. Savage is a living temper. He'd be able to increase his strength beyond what Mindless would.

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Betageuze
has not mindless hulk limitless strength level.... ?

Supposedly they all have limitless strength levels. It's just that some incarnations of the Hulk can tap into that unlimited strength faster than others can. Not all can get as strong as savage or mindless in that short lapse of time. It takes some more time than others.

Thunderstrike
Professor always had the hardest time. He was my fave though. I really liked the fight he had with Spider-Man when he had the Gamma virus that made him Mindless again. Spidey was actually able to take a shockwave from that level of anger and still have his eardrums. Sick, eh?

Betageuze
i have to say that Mindless Hulk has always impressed me more.... if we speaking of raw,brutal power.......

mindless one.... feels pain... BUT... it did not really face him.... the result of such attacks by someone on him is... that he getting more madder... and more stronger....

look at the fight.... when his mind was possesed by nightmare.... and Dr. Strange banned him into another universe...

was very impressive

some of the most powerful Marvel ones.. couldnt stop this Hulk..

Hulk_Power
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Professor always had the hardest time. He was my fave though. I really liked the fight he had with Spider-Man when he had the Gamma virus that made him Mindless again. Spidey was actually able to take a shockwave from that level of anger and still have his eardrums. Sick, eh?

Yeah that was pretty cool. Spider-Man is tougher than I thought. Not many can take a clap like that and still have their hearing after that.

Betageuze
ok.... the team has beaten the Hulk....

but therefore.. you cannot say... Hercules has nearly killed the hulk..
i mean...

Herc only was a member of the team...... and certainly.. he perhaps finishing Hulk off......

but this no clear win.. only for Hercules.....no

Hercules in my opinion... was the strongest in this team..

but i saw Swordsman, Captain America, Wonderman, Namor, Iron Man, She-Hulk AND Hercules ...

Wonderman, Namor, Hercules, She-Hulk, Iron Man....... by his one.... belongs to the most powerful individuals on this earth......

and the hulk has given that team... a hell of a fight.. is this right ?

it this is so....... Hulk.... really has the right... to claim the title (at least)

"most powerful human beeing on this earth"

Thunderstrike
Actually, Count Nefaria has done the same thing.

Betageuze
against this team.... this teams consisting of Swordsman, Cap America, Hercules, Wonderman, She-Hulk, Namor and Iron Man

what do you believe.... how well would the Juggernaut (classic) feel... to battle such a team.... ?

Thunderstrike
Depends on if they're ready for him. Juggernaut could mow them down if he caught them off guard. If they've prepared, they'll just throw him into another dimension or something.

Betageuze
how ready they have to be for him ?

and who can throw him into another dimension ?

Swordsman ? wink

Thunderstrike
Thor. He's thrown Juggy into a different dimension before.

Betageuze
i am speaking from the team here..... Swordsman, Captain America, She-Hulk, Hercules, Wonderman, Iron Man and Submariner

who can through him into another dimension....

Thunderstrike
Hmmmm. Well, Iron Man was the one who came up with the technology for Avengers teleporters. He could just teleport Juggernaut to the Bahamas. I doubt Juggy would want to come home.

Betageuze
can Thanos survive a god blast ?

are there different forms of god-blasts ?
which is the most powerful form ?

is it the omni-godblast.....

against which opponents .... thor would,without hesitation, use his god blast ?.....

thor often was impressed by the great strength of the hulk..... he often sees him as the ultimate challenge for him....

dont you think... that THOR thinks.... that the hulk could survive such a blast

by the way.... do you believe Immortal Hercules can survive a omni-godblast?

Thunderstrike
Check the other thread where you just asked me that.

Betageuze
sorry.. was my failure to post this message in this thread.... but unfortunately... i couldnt delete it from here..

guy222
hulk wins

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