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Weapon Omega also know as Wild Child vs. Sabertooth. This is non jobbing Wild Child who was trained by the best in the world. Here is who he is.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Weapon Omega vs. Daredevil (Clone)
Alpha Flight #111 -During Infinity War the heroes have to battle against clones of certain heroes that have the same power and abilities as their copies. During the time he was acting leader of Alpha Flight, he battles the clone of Daredevil and kills him by snapping his neck in one move. Badass

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Bah! That fake clone doesnt seem remotely close to DD in skills.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Bah! That fake clone doesnt seem remotely close to DD in skills.

The clones created by Magnus have every strength and abilities as the original had.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
The clones created by Magnus have every strength and abilities as the original had.

It sure doesnt seem as so. I wouldnt hold that as evident as doing something like that to the real DD.

But on topic, Sabes always seems to talk down to WC. WC even seemed a bit scared of Sabes before. I dont know how that became later on though. WC does seem more savage than Wolvie much like how Sabes was when he first appeared. Sabes is stronger, but WC is a better fighter.

I say slight edge to Sabes.

Originally posted by jrodslam
It sure doesnt seem as so. I wouldnt hold that as evident as doing something like that to the real DD.

But on topic, Sabes always seems to talk down to WC. WC even seemed a bit scared of Sabes before. I dont know how that became later on though. WC does seem more savage than Wolvie much like how Sabes was when he first appeared. Sabes is stronger, but WC is a better fighter.

I say slight edge to Sabes.

Eh? they stated it several times in Infinite War that they have the same powers/abilities as the originals. Iron Man clone beat Iron man and Mr.Fantastic clone beat Mr.Fantastic

I said non- jobbing Wild Child, one who isn't afraid of Sabertooth since that is completly against his character and the writer ignored the fact he had a healing factor. Also Weapon Omega isn't savage only in Wild CHild form he is and partial in Wildheart form.
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W.Omega Feats:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/Nick_Fury_Agent_Of_SHIELD_Vol.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Weapon Omega/Wild Child vs. Wolverine
Alpha Flight #127-Here Wild Child goes toe to toe with Wolverine, showing his growth and skill. He's actually one of the most skilled fighters, trained by the best in the world. Yet they make Wild Child job in the Weapon X series.

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Originally posted by King_Mungi
Alpha Flight vs. The Outcasts
Alpha Flight #122-123-Long before Puck joined Alpha Flight he used to run with Flagstone, Cleft and Depth Charge. They bonded more tightly than flesh and blood, but now Puck must deal with them and decide if he will stay with Alpha Flight or join his "brothers". Cleft has superhuman strength and durability same with Depth Charge and Flagstone

Feats shown:
-Shows Puck training dealing with being a dwarf
-Wildheart takes out Flagstone
-Puck takes out Depth Charge
-Puck takes out Cleft

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Originally posted by King_Mungi
Weapon Omega/Wild Child
Alpha Flight #103-After Diablo takes Guardian II and Weapon Omega hostage by using Guardian II's own suit to knock them out, he begins to torture them. After Diablo turns Weapon Omega's skin from molten lava back to his normal skin, Diablo was impressed that WO didn't even scream and still shows he is a badass.

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Originally posted by King_Mungi
Weapon Omega/Wild Child vs. Omerta
Alpha Flight #108-Brain Drain a villian from the old Invaders comics manipulates Europe's greatest heroes to kill their political leaders. It's up to Alpha Flight to stop them. Omerta is a superhero from Italy.

Omerta bio: http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Omerta_I

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I not sure about these clone man beign as good. wolverine beat his, if they were the same that be impossabe. multi man if im not mistaken beat is and so did many others

Originally posted by capt it up
I not sure about these clone man beign as good. wolverine beat his, if they were the same that be impossabe. multi man if im not mistaken beat is and so did many others

They specifically stated they were and how did he beat Wolverine beat his clone? After getting kicked in the head he fell back to the ground and the clone lunged in the air to him and at that moment Wolverine stabbed him. Prior to that Wolverine never touched him.

As I said Iron Man.C beat Iron Man, Mr.Fantastic.C beat Mr.Fantastic. They are basically the exact same.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
They specifically stated they were and how did he beat Wolverine beat his clone? After getting kicked in the head he fell back to the ground and the clone lunged in the air to him and at that moment Wolverine stabbed him. Prior to that Wolverine never touched him.

As I said Iron Man.C beat Iron Man, Mr.Fantastic.C beat Mr.Fantastic. They are basically the exact same.
if there the same how could one beat the other?

Originally posted by capt it up
if there the same how could one beat the other?

because someone has to win, either by luck or just doing the right move at the right time just like Wolverine did. It was stated they were equal in the series.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
because someone has to win, either by luck or just doing the right move at the right time just like Wolverine did. It was stated they were equal in the series.
I don't rmeber them ever statign they were equals. also if they were the same they do the same attacks whcih they did not

Originally posted by capt it up
I don't rmeber them ever statign they were equals. also if they were the same they do the same attacks whcih they did not

No, they arn't mirrors such as one person punches the clone won't automatically do the same punch. He would counter, dodge do something differently than the person did the punch. I have the entire series and need be I will get the scans.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, they arn't mirrors such as one person punches the clone won't automatically do the same punch. He would counter, dodge do something differently than the person did the punch. I have the entire series and need be I will get the scans.
actauly if u could sen me the scanns lol not to prove ur piont I believe u I just never really read it well i have, but I don't own it since I dident have the money so if u could send me the fights i be msot greatful

Originally posted by capt it up
actauly if u could sen me the scanns lol not to prove ur piont I believe u I just never really read it well i have, but I don't own it since I dident have the money so if u could send me the fights i be msot greatful

It's 2am here, I'm not going to start scanning comics now any specific issues you want so I can get the scans tommorow? I can scan the whole series. Plus there is the Infinity War cross-overs as well, I have most but not all...want those?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's 2am here, I'm not going to start scanning comics now any specific issues you want so I can get the scans tommorow? I can scan the whole series. Plus there is the Infinity War cross-overs as well, I have most but not all...want those?
ya if u can scanns thsoe as well that be great. ya man it 2 am here as well

Originally posted by capt it up
ya if u can scanns thsoe as well that be great. ya man it 2 am here as well

You have issue one right? I'll send you the scans in a private message just to get back on topic.

yup i do and ok

Sabretooth wins.

Wild Child is simply Sabretooth-lite.

Not as big, not as strong, not as experienced, not as smelly...

Originally posted by riceroost
Sabretooth wins.

Wild Child is simply Sabretooth-lite.

Not as big, not as strong, not as experienced, not as smelly...

No that's what he was protrayed as in X-Factor in Weapon X, that's nothing to what he is or who he was in Alpha Flight.

I like to point out in AoA, Sabertooth and Wild Child (who just had feorcity not the skill Weapon Omega had) fought in a cell for three straight days.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I like to point out in AoA, Sabertooth and Wild Child (who just had feorcity not the skill Weapon Omega had) fought in a cell for three straight days. and sabretooth won.

Originally posted by riceroost
and sabretooth won.

No he pissed on him asserting his alpha maleness, as that was the only way to get through to Wild Child's mind. However, this is Weapon Omega battling not that feorcity mindless Wild Child.

Shang Chi said it best when fighting Wolverine.

"His savagery has not bred undicipline."


Meaning that just because they go berserk does not mean they stop using their fighting ability. Going nuts just gives them a boost of strength, speed, stamina, and toughness.

And drool, lot's of drool.

Originally posted by riceroost
Shang Chi said it best when fighting Wolverine.

"His savagery has not bred undicipline."

Meaning that just because they go berserk does not mean they stop using their fighting ability. Going nuts just gives them a boost of strength, speed, stamina, and toughness.

And drool, lot's of drool.

Actually that's wrong, as Wolverine stated when he first started training him when he was going in berserk fury he wasn't using his head and actually made it easier to be subdued. Wolverine began to train him to harness his feorcity, but not give in. Plus, AoA Wild Child wasn't as skilled as 616 Wild Child.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually that's wrong. WHAT?!? How dare you deny the words of the MASTER OF KUNG FU. For this deed I sentence you to death by SWAN KICK-----WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

There! Now you see things my way. HAHAHHAHAHAHA!!

Well Wolverine has beaten Shang Chi, and Wolverine himself said Wild Child was to feral and needed to be put down when he first began to train him. sooooo.....

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This just goes to cementing my belief that Wolverine would kill Wild Child in the Weapon X battle Royal thread. HAH THE MAAASTER OF KUNG FU STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Originally posted by riceroost
This just goes to cementing my belief that Wolverine would kill Wild Child in the Weapon X battle Royal thread. HAH THE MAAASTER OF KUNG FU STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

and how does it cememt it as I have provided scans of him stalemating Wolverine and Wolverine admitting he is his equal? Once again the scan I just posted was of Wild Child NOT Weapon Omega

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and how does it cememt it as I have provided scans of him stalemating Wolverine and Wolverine admitting he is his equal? Bwahahahahaha!
Wolerine is again about to KILL Wild Child in that pic. They are saying "Logan don't kill Wild Child!" Not the other way around. Kyle is the one who looks beat up in the last panel.

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*sigh* It's tough for you to understand things is it? Notice the captoin that says years ago as this is Wild Child before he became Weapon Omega.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
*sigh* It's tough for you to understand things is it? Notice the captoin that says years ago as this is Wild Child before he became Weapon Omega. The point is you said Wolverine stated Wild Child was as good as him. Which isn't true.

Anyway, this is about Sabretooth.

Creed is stronger, way more experienced, just as fast, has a healing factor way stronger than Omega's. Omega also doesn't use his claws, which is the only way he could hurt Creed.

Since your struggling to understand, here is where the scan is fron:

Weapon Omega/Wild Child vs. Wolverine
Alpha Flight #127-Here Wild Child goes toe to toe with Wolverine, showing his growth and skill. He's actually one of the most skilled fighters, trained by the best in the world. Yet they make Wild Child job in the Weapon X series.

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Originally posted by riceroost
The point is you said Wolverine stated Wild Child was as good as him. Which isn't true.

Anyway, this is about Sabretooth.

Creed is stronger, way more experienced, just as fast, has a healing factor way stronger than Omega's. Omega also doesn't use his claws, which is the only way he could hurt Creed.

Good lord, I have provided evidence he is and Wolverine has stated in his own words he stated is. Unlike you I have providied evidence and scans and what have you done? nothing other than spouting of things you know nothing about and me constantly correcting you.

Not true, and hell Black Cat has even beat Sabertooth.

Weapon Omega was trained by the best. Wolverine, according to the Marvel encyclopedia, has mastered ALL forms of combat. Cap, really good with his own style, Nick Fury, probably over 100 years of xperience(like W). Weapon Omega is good, one of the best.

BUT!

Omega Red, i think ex-Russian KGB or something. Their only supersoldier, beat the crap outa Wolverine and (i saw the comic) Cable, also proficient fighter. The Russian martial arts are amazing. Plus: death factor, healing i think, and same, if not stronger, than W.

I definitely think Omega could take this, healing counters death factor a bit, and increased agility makes him fast enough to dodge someone as big as Red. could probably even get free of them tentacles.

P.S. Sabertooth is, and always will be, a cheap imitation...

wow, screw that last post, i am blind, thought this was Weapon Omega vs. Omega Red. word mix up.
frusty

this goes where omega red is on that post:

Sabertooth has basically the same background as wolverine. He is more psychotic, less control, and is alot bigger than Weapon Omega.
He has more experience, but probably does not know as many fighting styles due to who trained him-encyclopedia say MOST, not ALL. Anyway...

Weapon Omega could run circles around Sabertooth, nuff said...

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not true, and hell Black Cat has even beat Sabertooth.
Before Sabretooth was given a HUGE powerup. Black Cat beat Creed before he had a healing factor, Wolverine level experience, super strength, and enhanced speed.

Things would go down a little different today. During the Mutant Massacre he took out Rogue with two shots. Need I remind you how powerful Rogue is?

creed's a mutant. wasn't he born with that healing factor? or did they just enhance him, like with Agent Zero?

Originally posted by riceroost
Before Sabretooth was given a HUGE powerup. Black Cat beat Creed before he had a healing factor, Wolverine level experience, super strength, and enhanced speed.

Things would go down a little different today. During the Mutant Massacre he took out Rogue with two shots. Need I remind you how powerful Rogue is?

Not that huge, as his power over the years has gone up and down as he has gained admintium, lost admintium and then regained it. No he doesn't have enhanced speed as in the handbook they state he has "athlete speed" and we don't know how old Sabertooth really is.

That's exactally my point, you keep brining up the times Wild Child lost to Wolverine when today things would be different as he became far stronger. It's not a one way straight, now do you get it?.

Originally posted by Deadpool14
creed's a mutant. wasn't he born with that healing factor? or did they just enhance him, like with Agent Zero?

Born with it then enhanced.

thought so. side effects of Weapon X.

I'm sorry but Creed is basically Wild Child and the dial turned up. Look at the fights he has had with the majority of the Weapon X. He ususally hands them their lunch including Wolverine. Then they went and gave him adamantium and buffed his strength.

Creed also has insane damamge resiistance look at his fight with Ms. Marvel. Creed can take everything Wild Child has and keep coming. Now he is bigger and stronger than before and quite frankly takes Wild Child's life.

Actually not true, Wild Child with Alpha FLight has battled Gods people who would blink Creed out of existance. As I mentioned earlier a less skilled Wild CHild in AoA battled Sabertooth for three straight days he is by no means a push over. If this is Weapon Omega or Wild Heart when he last appeared in Alpha Flight he was a experienced adult fighter not the child the teenage kid they made him in X-Factor and the vampire monster who the writer completly ignored his abilities. Guy even was responsible for beating Diablo on his own, and killed Daredevil with one move.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually not true, Wild Child with Alpha FLight has battled Gods people who would blink Creed out of existance. As I mentioned earlier a less skilled Wild CHild in AoA battled Sabertooth for three straight days he is by no means a push over. If this is Weapon Omega or Wild Heart when he last appeared in Alpha Flight he was a experienced adult fighter not the child the teenage kid they made him in X-Factor and the vampire monster who the writer completly ignored his abilities. Guy even was responsible for beating Diablo on his own, and killed Daredevil with one move.

So what power does wild child have that allows him to not get blinked out of existence the smae way Creed would? Cause if you are saying he is a match for a god....

Wolverine has been trained by the best, Deadpool has been trained by the best. Pretty much all of WEapon X can lay claim to that so it foolws that either Sabertooth too was trained by the best considering he worked for the CIA, or his skills allow him to fight even those who were trained by the best and win more often than not.

Wild Child has no real advantage over Sabertooth. Sabertooth is stronger and tougher so if thats the best he can do against Wolverine then I don't think he can beat Sabertooth.

Also he beat adisposable clone in a disposable series or clones. That realy doesn't amount to much. At best it jsut looks like he got a lucky move in, it hardly makes him a fighting god.

Originally posted by Warmonger
So what power does wild child have that allows him to not get blinked out of existence the smae way Creed would? Cause if you are saying he is a match for a god....

Wolverine has been trained by the best, Deadpool has been trained by the best. Pretty much all of WEapon X can lay claim to that so it foolws that either Sabertooth too was trained by the best considering he worked for the CIA, or his skills allow him to fight even those who were trained by the best and win more often than not.

Wild Child has no real advantage over Sabertooth. Sabertooth is stronger and tougher so if thats the best he can do against Wolverine then I don't think he can beat Sabertooth.

Also he beat adisposable clone in a disposable series or clones. That realy doesn't amount to much. At best it jsut looks like he got a lucky move in, it hardly makes him a fighting god.
sabertooth lsot his alst 3 matches vs wolverine

That right? Lets see I know he lost the last match where he was supposedly killed off panel but that wasn't the Sabertooth with the adamantium infact they never even said what happend to him or how Wolverine managed to kill him.

THe last time I remeber before that was when Creed had gotten his power up from WEapon X and was pretty much killing him.

Creed has also singlehandedly beat down Omega Red.

Originally posted by Warmonger
That right? Lets see I know he lost the last match where he was supposedly killed off panel but that wasn't the Sabertooth with the adamantium infact they never even said what happend to him or how Wolverine managed to kill him.

THe last time I remeber before that was when Creed had gotten his power up from WEapon X and was pretty much killing him.
last fight was wolverien killing creed. fight before that was sabertooth vs wolverine when x-men vsed the new brother hood wolevrine beat him in 2 pannels and the fight before that was another brother hood vs x-men match and it last only 2 pannels.

Originally posted by Warmonger
So what power does wild child have that allows him to not get blinked out of existence the smae way Creed would? Cause if you are saying he is a match for a god....

Wolverine has been trained by the best, Deadpool has been trained by the best. Pretty much all of WEapon X can lay claim to that so it foolws that either Sabertooth too was trained by the best considering he worked for the CIA, or his skills allow him to fight even those who were trained by the best and win more often than not.

Wild Child has no real advantage over Sabertooth. Sabertooth is stronger and tougher so if thats the best he can do against Wolverine then I don't think he can beat Sabertooth.

Also he beat adisposable clone in a disposable series or clones. That realy doesn't amount to much. At best it jsut looks like he got a lucky move in, it hardly makes him a fighting god.

He isn't, but those fights have him further experience as he battled with Alpha Flgiht against these forces giving him experience to fight stronger people. He isn't a punk kid, he's a very skilled fighter with great experience battling a variety of opponents.

Wild Child was trained by Wolverine, Captrain America, Nick Fury, Nemesis, Secret Empire, Department H & K, Gamma/ALpha/Omega Flight, Puck, Weapon X, X-Factor and various others we don't know the full list of. He isn't outmatched here as Wild Child in AoA who wasn't even close to be half of skilled as 616 battled Sabertooth to a standstill for three straight bloody days. I'm not saying Weapon Omega wins or loses, but he is no way simply outclassed here.

Except those clones as stated had all the power/abilities of their orginial selves. No it wasn't a lucky move, he knew exactally what he was doing he just didn't mean to kill him. He further showed his fighting skills against Diablo's minions and even beating Diablo himself. I'll post those scans tommorow in the respect thread and various others.

are you defending weapon omega again?? posting feats when someone says he wont win..??
i think weapon omega is cool and if this match was in comic books then he would win.. i think sabes isnt used to is full potencial and even though he should beat wolverine every time and man handle other people like nothing he ends up being dissed.. i think he under-rated..
i gonna go with sabretooth...
simply because he needs some support from people.

Omega

Tell me what significant advantages Wild Child has over Sabertooth and I'll relent cause right now Sabertooth is holding all the cards.

Strength: Sabertooth all the way the guy is a monster able to skin the freaking Wendigo.

Durability: Massive HEaling factor and Adamantium Skeleton. And it seems from his fights with Ms. Marvle that he was already quite resistant to blunt force trauma.

Fighting Skills: He's fougt the best in weapon X. Lost some won many so at best you might say they are even in that respect but I don't see enough feats to say that.

All in all Sabertooth seems better in every category. What advantage do you see Wild Child having?

run circles around him. smaller, more agile and less bulky. probably rip his voice box out real quick.

Originally posted by Warmonger
Tell me what significant advantages Wild Child has over Sabertooth and I'll relent cause right now Sabertooth is holding all the cards.

Strength: Sabertooth all the way the guy is a monster able to skin the freaking Wendigo.

Durability: Massive HEaling factor and Adamantium Skeleton. And it seems from his fights with Ms. Marvle that he was already quite resistant to blunt force trauma.

Fighting Skills: He's fougt the best in weapon X. Lost some won many so at best you might say they are even in that respect but I don't see enough feats to say that.

All in all Sabertooth seems better in every category. What advantage do you see Wild Child having?

For starters that was poorly written as stated wooden spikes can not penetrate Wendigo or Sasquatch since they can take armor peircing rounds. So that's void

Wild Child has a massive healing factor as well, but doesn't have the adamintium skelton. However, that doesn't mean he still can't be knocked out.

Sorry about not posting some feats today I sort of forgot, I'll get to them tommorow....hopefully.

Overall skill, he has gone with the best of the best and done very well. He has been trained as a warrior pretty much since he was born and just a feral Wild Child (AoA) went toe to toe with Sabertooth for three straight days. It can be done. He may very well lose, but no way is he simply outclassed here.

plus, Weapon Omega's costume is soooo much better the Sabertooth's. (like that means anything). but still, I like how they made the design like the 'uniform' alpha flight costume that most of them wear, but the mask rocks!bag

did you make a Weapon Omega Respect thread yet?

Originally posted by Deadpool14
did you make a Weapon Omega Respect thread yet?

Nope, I lumped his feats in the Alpha Flight Respect Thread. I'll be posting the Diablo fight tonight.

oh, that would be cool though. maybe i'll visit

Originally posted by King_Mungi
For starters that was poorly written as stated wooden spikes can not penetrate Wendigo or Sasquatch since they can take armor peircing rounds. So that's void

Wild Child has a massive healing factor as well, but doesn't have the adamintium skelton. However, that doesn't mean he still can't be knocked out.

Sorry about not posting some feats today I sort of forgot, I'll get to them tommorow....hopefully.

Overall skill, he has gone with the best of the best and done very well. He has been trained as a warrior pretty much since he was born and just a feral Wild Child (AoA) went toe to toe with Sabertooth for three straight days. It can be done. He may very well lose, but no way is he simply outclassed here.

Why would that be void? Thats like me saying that Killing a disposable clone of Daredevil Doesn't make Wild Child a better fighter than Dare Devil. Or saying that Dare Devil's fighitn Pedigree is much better than Wild CHild's so his losing in one move is out of character. But I Digress...

I'm not saying Wild Child can't knock out Sabertooth but like I said Creed has tangled with both Wendigo and Sasquatch and neither one have been able to do it, so I really don't see how Wild Child will.

Creed has gone against the best as well and has done even better Killing MAverik, outfighting both Deadpool and Wolverine on occasion and Even defeating Omega Red.

Where are the fighing feats Wild Child has against highly skilled opponents. He fought Wolveirne but he didn't best him. He killed A Daredevil clone (which in my opinion is like a what if comic). And in another what if universe he fought with Creed for some days. Except that in the 616 he as scared of Creed, and remember when that sentinal was trashing the team it was Sabertooth Forge wanted to get to help Wild Child was there but he isn't as powerful.

Creed can dish out much more damage than Wild Child. Can move fast enough to keep up with Dark Beast, as well as Psyclocke so you can't say Wild Child will run circles around him. You can't even really say Wild Child is a more skilled fighter. He has fought one high skill opponent, Wolverine. Sabertooth has fought, Dare Devil, Wolveirne, Maverik, Psylocke, and Deadpool. All hihgly skilled oppoents and beaten all of them at least once.

Sabertooth 9/10

Originally posted by Warmonger
Why would that be void? Thats like me saying that Killing a disposable clone of Daredevil Doesn't make Wild Child a better fighter than Dare Devil. Or saying that Dare Devil's fighitn Pedigree is much better than Wild CHild's so his losing in one move is out of character. But I Digress...

I'm not saying Wild Child can't knock out Sabertooth but like I said Creed has tangled with both Wendigo and Sasquatch and neither one have been able to do it, so I really don't see how Wild Child will.

Creed has gone against the best as well and has done even better Killing MAverik, outfighting both Deadpool and Wolverine on occasion and Even defeating Omega Red.

Where are the fighing feats Wild Child has against highly skilled opponents. He fought Wolveirne but he didn't best him. He killed A Daredevil clone (which in my opinion is like a what if comic). And in another what if universe he fought with Creed for some days. Except that in the 616 he as scared of Creed, and remember when that sentinal was trashing the team it was Sabertooth Forge wanted to get to help Wild Child was there but he isn't as powerful.


Creed can dish out much more damage than Wild Child. Can move fast enough to keep up with Dark Beast, as well as Psyclocke so you can't say Wild Child will run circles around him. You can't even really say Wild Child is a more skilled fighter. He has fought one high skill opponent, Wolverine. Sabertooth has fought, Dare Devil, Wolveirne, Maverik, Psylocke, and Deadpool. All hihgly skilled oppoents and beaten all of them at least once.

Sabertooth 9/10

because Wendigo was severly weakened as spears hurting him, same with Sasquatch? come on. While on the other hand it was stated multiple times in Infinity War they are exact copies of their hosts. As their copies even beat the orginial copies. Even a most experienced fighter can be taken out in one hit as the UFC shows us time and time again.

Like I said that story was poorly written as Sasquatch easily ko'ed Wolverine in 2 hits and then annihilated him another time. Once again wooden spears? guy takes tank blasts and is fine.

Like I said I'm not saying Wild Child wins or loses, but he is by far not outclassed here.

No he used his head, as he didn't need to fight him. It wasn't a what if as it was a fairly important marvel cross over. As I mentioned earlier Wild Child has gone up against worse and wasn't afraid. He has faced death before and wasn't afraid. He was about to be killed many times, but he wasn't afraid. As I said this is non-jobbing Wild Child as that was completly out of character and the writer forgot Wild Child has a healing factor. Alpha Flight is the purest unmutalitated form of Weapon Omega. He's a very smart fighter, I just posted the Diablo fight in the respect thread. I'll get to more tommorow.

Wild Child has caught Aurora and Northstar on multiple occasions. Even landed a serious hit on her ripping her chest open. Wild Child has fought Sabertooth, Wolverine, Omerta, Flagstone, Wyre, Nemesis, Weapon X (Kane). He even fought all of Beta Flight w/Northstar and won and that was before he became Weapon Omega. I'll post that fight tommorow.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually that's wrong, as Wolverine stated when he first started training him when he was going in berserk fury he wasn't using his head and actually made it easier to be subdued. Wolverine began to train him to harness his feorcity, but not give in. Plus, AoA Wild Child wasn't as skilled as 616 Wild Child.
ur correct ecpt there a diffrence.
wild child was and is feral which si totaly diffrent then beserker.
bersker is some thing a skileld worry cna do if he ahs the gift of beserker rage.
feral is just the animal with non of the fighter

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if your are saying Wild Child is not a skilled fighter because he is feral, you are wrong. Look at Wolverine when he was feral.

Originally posted by Deadpool14
if your are saying Wild Child is not a skilled fighter because he is feral, you are wrong. Look at Wolverine when he was feral.
thank u for being so outerly sarcastic.

what I ment to say was this. feral rage or furry is a lot diffrent then a beserker rage.

a beserker rage is what some fighter can go into that allow them to retain all there fighting skill and abilties but amp all there abilites to max.
it a little more complicated that that, but I don't feel like explaining it all.

a feral rage is much diffrent. feral rage is just when the animal is out the human side totaly takes a back seat and they retain only the need to survive. they fight extremely savage but it more or less not very skilled attacks.

wolverine was not in a feral rage when he beat shang-chi

i see what you are saying. But in mutant genesis Wolverine almost killed Magneto by going into berserker fury, and Magneto wasn't even that much of a threat at the time. it was totally an unecessary attack, the beast was acting on that one. wolverine went feral after having his adamantium removed from his bones by Mags and being driven on the verge of insanity by that idiot Genesis. this was conveyed by his primitive look and degenerated intelligence.

I agree that beserker fury makes a fighter more deadly, but being feral doesn't necessarily mean all of their skills go away. it just degenerates them alot.

and yes it would take wolverine in his prime to beat the Master of Kungfu

Originally posted by Deadpool14
i see what you are saying. But in mutant genesis Wolverine almost killed Magneto by going into berserker fury, and Magneto wasn't even that much of a threat at the time. it was totally an unecessary attack, the beast was acting on that one. wolverine went feral after having his adamantium removed from his bones by Mags, conveyed by his primitive look and degenerated intelligence.

I agree that beserker fury makes a fighter more deadly, but being feral doesn't necessarily mean all of their skills go away. it just degenerates them alot.

and yes it would take wolverine in his prime to beat the Master of Kungfu
oh in beserker the beast does act but it diffrent he retains all his fighting skills but only thinks to kill his opponet.

feral rage is a lot diffrent and not all his fighting skill are gone, but they are lessioned and it kinda like goign beserker but with good amount of bad side effects.
also it not the feral part thats bad wolevrine feral can bejust as smart as wolverine normal at times, but it the feral rage which is no were near as good as beserker.

also when wolverine beat shang-chi he was in niether mode.

Originally posted by capt it up
oh in beserker the beast does act but it diffrent he retains all his fighting skills but only thinks to kill his opponet.

feral rage is a lot diffrent and not all his fighting skill are gone, but they are lessioned and it kinda like goign beserker but with good amount of bad side effects.
also it not the feral part thats bad wolevrine feral can bejust as smart as wolverine normal at times, but it the feral rage which is no were near as good as beserker.

also when wolverine beat shang-chi he was in niether mode.


Then we agree

Originally posted by Deadpool14
Then we agree
yup

Originally posted by King_Mungi
because Wendigo was severly weakened as spears hurting him, same with Sasquatch? come on. While on the other hand it was stated multiple times in Infinity War they are exact copies of their hosts. As their copies even beat the orginial copies. Even a most experienced fighter can be taken out in one hit as the UFC shows us time and time again.

Like I said that story was poorly written as Sasquatch easily ko'ed Wolverine in 2 hits and then annihilated him another time. Once again wooden spears? guy takes tank blasts and is fine.

Like I said I'm not saying Wild Child wins or loses, but he is by far not outclassed here.

No he used his head, as he didn't need to fight him. It wasn't a what if as it was a fairly important marvel cross over. As I mentioned earlier Wild Child has gone up against worse and wasn't afraid. He has faced death before and wasn't afraid. He was about to be killed many times, but he wasn't afraid. As I said this is non-jobbing Wild Child as that was completly out of character and the writer forgot Wild Child has a healing factor. Alpha Flight is the purest unmutalitated form of Weapon Omega. He's a very smart fighter, I just posted the Diablo fight in the respect thread. I'll get to more tommorow.

Wild Child has caught Aurora and Northstar on multiple occasions. Even landed a serious hit on her ripping her chest open. Wild Child has fought Sabertooth, Wolverine, Omerta, Flagstone, Wyre, Nemesis, Weapon X (Kane). He even fought all of Beta Flight w/Northstar and won and that was before he became Weapon Omega. I'll post that fight tommorow.


So you think the Hulk a being known to move very fast couldn't hit Aurora or Northstar but Wild Child should be able to and its fine? Once again sounds like a lucky hit. Otherwise your saying that Wild Child fights at the speed of Aurora and Norhtstar.

Once again without a protracted fight it just seems like he got lucky, hell he didn't evne mean to kill him so once again what skill does that speak of?


He wasn't scared of Sabertoth because of who Creed is, but what he represents. The Animialistic side of Kyle that he tries to keep in. Its the same reason that he gets under Wolverine's skin so much.

How do these fights prove he is a superior fighter to Saberooth? Saberooth has fought several people on that level except he usually did it by himself. The most it can prove is that he is around the same level.

When has he fought Sabertooth?

How can he not be outclassed?

Isn't Sabertooth stronger?

Doesn't the combination of Adamantium and Healing Facotor make him able to sustain much more damage?

You can't really prove that he is faster. Or more agile because of one PIS feat of hitting a speedster. Not to mention that Sabertooth has a good record against people around his agility category.

You can't prove that he is a better fighter becaus he hasn't really taken on any great hand to hand fighter Solo and won.

this thread is getting old...rip

Originally posted by Warmonger
So you think the Hulk a being known to move very fast couldn't hit Aurora or Northstar but Wild Child should be able to and its fine? Once again sounds like a lucky hit. Otherwise your saying that Wild Child fights at the speed of Aurora and Norhtstar.

Once again without a protracted fight it just seems like he got lucky, hell he didn't evne mean to kill him so once again what skill does that speak of?


He wasn't scared of Sabertoth because of who Creed is, but what he represents. The Animialistic side of Kyle that he tries to keep in. Its the same reason that he gets under Wolverine's skin so much.

How do these fights prove he is a superior fighter to Saberooth? Saberooth has fought several people on that level except he usually did it by himself. The most it can prove is that he is around the same level.

When has he fought Sabertooth?

How can he not be outclassed?

Isn't Sabertooth stronger?

Doesn't the combination of Adamantium and Healing Facotor make him able to sustain much more damage?

You can't really prove that he is faster. Or more agile because of one PIS feat of hitting a speedster. Not to mention that Sabertooth has a good record against people around his agility category.

You can't prove that he is a better fighter becaus he hasn't really taken on any great hand to hand fighter Solo and won.
hulkd cna run at high speed true, but hulks agility and reflex are that of a normal persons. when hitting a person it reflex that truely matters and hand speed and in soem cases agility. wild child beats hulk in those ways

Originally posted by capt it up
hulkd cna run at high speed true, but hulks agility and reflex are that of a normal persons. when hitting a person it reflex that truely matters and hand speed and in soem cases agility. wild child beats hulk in those ways

i agree. hulk is just brute strength that hasn't been fine tuned. Omega is just a really sharp Weapon

Originally posted by Warmonger
So you think the Hulk a being known to move very fast couldn't hit Aurora or Northstar but Wild Child should be able to and its fine? Once again sounds like a lucky hit. Otherwise your saying that Wild Child fights at the speed of Aurora and Norhtstar.

Once again without a protracted fight it just seems like he got lucky, hell he didn't evne mean to kill him so once again what skill does that speak of?



He wasn't scared of Sabertoth because of who Creed is, but what he represents. The Animialistic side of Kyle that he tries to keep in. Its the same reason that he gets under Wolverine's skin so much.

No it was stated in Weapon X he was actually afraid of Creed...literally. He cowered like a dog when he came near, which is out of character.

How do these fights prove he is a superior fighter to Saberooth? Saberooth has fought several people on that level except he usually did it by himself. The most it can prove is that he is around the same level.

When has he fought Sabertooth?

How can he not be outclassed?

Isn't Sabertooth stronger?

Doesn't the combination of Adamantium and Healing Facotor make him able to sustain much more damage?

You can't really prove that he is faster. Or more agile because of one PIS feat of hitting a speedster. Not to mention that Sabertooth has a good record against people around his agility category.

You can't prove that he is a better fighter becaus he hasn't really taken on any great hand to hand fighter Solo and won.

Well he has hit them a few times, one Aurora was being cocky, and the rest I will post in the respect thread tommorow. You said Hulk couldn't be calmed down by light but now I remember Dazzler did it to him transforming him back into Banner in her mini. Hey people claim Wolverine tagging Northstar is fine, why not Wild Child?

He countered a blow from behind and manuevered it into a finisher. I will show his hand-to-hand skills against Wyre tommorow....or tommorowish.

Weapon X, as vampire Wild Child and AoA.

Adamintium lowers your healing factor, and no. If he takes more hits he is still going to feel it adamintium skelton or not.

Because Sabertooth doesn't have a major advantage. Wild Child written correctly is one of the best fighters stated in Alpha Flight. That's why I picked Weapon Omega.

Physically most likely, however, Wild Child has fought people who are physically stronger than him before. As I mentioned when he battled with Alpha Flight.

Hit them three seperate times, Aurora once Northstar twice. As does Weapon Omega. Here are the handbook entry, but Wild Child has shown superhuman strength as well other than that their spot on
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/29/th_sabretoothback.jpg
2. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/31/thu_wildback.jpg

Omerta is, Daredevil clone is, Flagstone is as he was trained by Puck, Wyre is.
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Deadpool14 looks like your a new fan of Weapon Omega from your avatar.
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EDIT: Sorry War for the brief post, but this is a 2am just got home from the bar and I'm tired reply.

oh yes, first time i saw him in the x-men ultimate guid, i was like" cool costume and name. wonder what his powers are. then i found out he was a minature Sabertooth, and was like "cool". now that i know more it's even better

SABERTOOTH!

GGGGRRRRR!!!!