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Call it Christian Propaganda or whatever you may think it is....but read it. It's really not such a bad stuff. It somewhat appeals to me and maybe it answers some of the stuff you been pondering about.

Pick One

If you claim to be as open minded as you say....why not browse it? give it a shot.

Awesome.

My. How informative.

Originally posted by PuffyCheese
My. How informative.

What would happen if we find life outside of earth? You think aliens are going to be Christians?

...whatever you say, Mr. FAQ Guy

Originally posted by Refused
What would happen if we find life outside of earth? You think aliens are going to be Christians?

We haven't yet. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Echuu
We haven't yet. Deal with it.

Intelligent discussion is for the weak!

It's just hard to imagine. Our infinitley small planet is the center of life? That's bullshit. This is torture.

Originally posted by Gregory
Intelligent discussion is for the weak!

He is asking a stupid what if question and downplaying everything in that faq just because 'there could be aliens.'


And as for your previous comment; Jesus became the sacrifice. There is no need for those rituals because Jesus takes the place of them.
I believe the 'faq guy' should have worded what he said better.

So when Jesus says "until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished" he really means, "after I die you should ignore this stuff?"

Originally posted by Gregory
So when Jesus says "until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished" he really means, "after I die you should ignore this stuff?"

Well then wouldn't he contradict the parts about lust also? He's altering it for goodness sake.

The bible says "God changes NOT"....So, it is true "Not one jot or tittle will in NO WAY PASS AWAY!"................Hope you are all keeping the Sabbath...

God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow...again god changes not".......

Originally posted by debbiejo
The bible says "God changes NOT"....So, it is true "Not one jot or tittle will in NO WAY PASS AWAY!"................Hope you are all keeping the Sabbath...

God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow...again god changes not".......

That's crap and you know it. Jesus fulfilled the law. If you want to keep whining about it go ahead but it doens't CHANGE a thing.

Christianity is just a belief. It can be very good in a person's life or very evil; it all depends on the people.

It was pretty good i will admit

Originally posted by Echuu
That's crap and you know it. Jesus fulfilled the law. If you want to keep whining about it go ahead but it doens't CHANGE a thing. Not keeping the Sabbath are you???

So, I guess Jesus is a lier when he said "Not one jot or tittle will in now way pass away from the Law".....

Jesus is a lier, Jesus is a lier, Jesus is a lier

I don't know why I found this sentence so amusing. Maybe because people who think the planet is 6000 years old might not be very well trained or thinking.

Now, I didn't read the whole thing, but the guy answering the questions is also the guy who asked them, right? I mean, from the beginning, he assumes the position of the persecuted christian under attack.

I didn't get that impression from him Capt. If I had some suspicions of extremiest then I wouldn't have even bother making the thread. But don't take my word for it. Read his own FAQ:

http://www.christianfaq.com/faq.html

I just found his answers interesting.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Not keeping the Sabbath are you???

So, I guess Jesus is a lier when he said "Not one jot or tittle will in now way pass away from the Law".....

Jesus is a lier, Jesus is a lier, Jesus is a lier

Yeah I 'remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.' I don't see where this is going other than you trying tp push my buttons.

I'm pretty sure it's spelled 'liar.'

Originally posted by Echuu
Yeah I 'remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.' I don't see where this is going other than you trying tp push my buttons.

I'm pretty sure it's spelled 'liar.'

Did you know that other people cannot push our buttons, we do it for them. Keep control over your buttons and you will live a happier life. Now go play your guitar.

Originally posted by Echuu
Yeah I 'remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.' I don't see where this is going other than you trying tp push my buttons.

I'm pretty sure it's spelled 'liar.' You don't like my "floating Jesus?".........hahaha.........yeah it is liar.........

Tell me how you keep your sabbath Mr I follow all the bible?....Oh, and what day are you keeping it?..........The day Jesus kept, or the day Constantine changed it too.

Follower of Constantine, follower of Constantine, Follower of Constantine

^ Hey Deb. Go pick on someone your own age... wait... that would be me... on second thought, never mind. *runs away*

Run!! The Trinity is following you.........

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I didn't get that impression from him Capt.

I said I didn't read everything. But, in the statement I quoted, it can't be denied that he is approaching the subject from the POV of someone who has been attacked. I mean, it's right there in what he says.

I'm not trying to point out a person who feels persecuted. Rather, some one who acts like they are persecuted. And there is no shortage of christians in this country today. That is obvious. There wouldn't be bills on the floor of the senate the are contrary, otherwise.

Be Christian all you want. But, not at the expense of another person who feels differently than do you.

My only point. Go Dubyah...and all.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^ Hey Deb. Go pick on someone your own age... wait... that would be me... on second thought, never mind. *runs away*

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Did you know that other people cannot push our buttons, we do it for them. Keep control over your buttons and you will live a happier life. Now go play your guitar.

I have been



debs>.........I go to church..even though it doesn't really say you have to do that to keep the sabbath. Wait so it's supposed to be on Saturdays then?

^ Constantine follower!!

Originally posted by debbiejo
^ Constantine follower!!

Still didn't answer my question.

Of course it's on Saturday. It was never changed. The Law changeth NOT...Even today the Jews know this. That's why they still worship on the Sabbath along with other protestant groups like the SDA, WWCG, and 7th Day Baptists amongst others.......No where did Jesus say it was changed....Heck even the Catholic church is open on Saturday.

Constantine changed the date at the council of Nicea to bring in the Pagans that worshipped on Sunday...He merged the faiths, and also implemented Easter instead of Passover which was being kept...Christians never celebrated the Birth of Jesus also, but that was also instituted on Dec. 25, to accommodate the pagan believe Of Mithra amongst other pagan deities..

Originally posted by debbiejo
Of course it's on Saturday. It was never changed. The Law changeth NOT...Even today the Jews know this. That's why they still worship on the Sabbath along with other protestant groups like the SDA, WWCG, and 7th Day Baptists amongst others.......No where did Jesus say it was changed....Heck even the Catholic church is open on Saturday.

Constantine changed the date at the council of Nicea to bring in the Pagans that worshipped on Sunday...He merged the faiths, and also implemented Easter instead of Passover which was being kept...Christians never celebrated the Birth of Jesus also, but that was also instituted on Dec. 25, to accommodate the pagan believe Of Mithra amongst other pagan deities..

Well whatever. Even if it is an incorrect day I'm keeping fellowship with believers and there's nothing wrong with that.
As for Christmas it's obviously not the EXACT day Jesus was born. Same with His Easter death and resurrection. It's just nice to have a day to set aside for remembrance.

Originally posted by Echuu
Well whatever. Even if it is an incorrect day I'm keeping fellowship with believers and there's nothing wrong with that.
. You're placing yourself against the Law and the Word of God!!!

You best repent, but now you're damned because you know and are willingly sinning.

Originally posted by debbiejo
You're placing yourself against the Law and the Word of God!!!

You best repent, but now you're damned because you know and are willingly sinning.

God tells us to obey our parents.

Originally posted by debbiejo
You're placing yourself against the Law and the Word of God!!!

You best repent, but now you're damned because you know and are willingly sinning.

Oh! stop it. These new Christians don't get stumped by that old line. They have found a new rationalization to get around it.

Originally posted by Echuu
God tells us to obey our parents. What does that have to do with your deliberate sinning??......You're damned!! You're damned because you know....Now you are left with no excuse but to face Judgement. What are you gonna tell god?

I worry for your eternal soul......

Originally posted by debbiejo
What does that have to do with your deliberate sinning??......You're damned!! You're damned because you know....Now you are left with no excuse but to face Judgement. What are you gonna tell god?

I worry for your eternal soul......

Think about it.



I worry for your state of mind.

^Deb worries about Echuu's soul and Echuu worries about Deb's mind. Am I the only person rolling on the ground with laughter?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^Deb worries about Echuu's soul and Echuu worries about Deb's mind. Am I the only person rolling on the ground with laughter?

Nah it's pretty funny. Any random guitar advice today?

Originally posted by Echuu
Nah it's pretty funny. Any random guitar advice today?


I'm not any good at random guitar.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Oh! stop it. These new Christians don't get stumped by that old line. They have found a new rationalization to get around it. like there science?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Call it Christian Propaganda or whatever you may think it is....but read it. It's really not such a bad stuff. It somewhat appeals to me and maybe it answers some of the stuff you been pondering about.

Pick One

If you claim to be as open minded as you say....why not browse it? give it a shot. I love you WD; I want to have your babies.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm not any good at random guitar.

Oh come on! You have to be good at improv!!

Originally posted by Echuu
Oh come on! You have to be good at improv!!

I spent too many years playing bass, so now when I improv on guitar, it just sounds like I'm playing bass on guitar.

We are off topic, so no more questions.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I spent too many years playing bass, so now when I improv on guitar, it just sounds like I'm playing bass on guitar.

We are off topic, so no more questions.

Yeah but but, but. Fine!


So anyways; great Christian faq we got here.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I love you WD; I want to have your babies.
Wow... what a pointless statement. You were no different when you hanged around in the SW vs.

Originally posted by Echuu
Think about it.



I worry for your state of mind. Ok.........you're ok with disobeying the 10 commandments then..........No sweat of my nose....

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ok.........you're ok with disobeying the 10 commandments then..........No sweat of my nose....

For someone who seems to have a sac-religious answer for EVERYTHING you sure seem to be brain dead right now.

The bible says to obey those in authority even when under precarious circumstances. That's what I meant with the whole going to church thing but apparently you missed that about 500 posts ago.

A cool read...I had to browse most of it though. It offers a more intelligent justification for Christianity than msot sources while at the same time not seeming ignorant or condescending toward other religions.

...I still have yet to see a Christian apologist who addresses my primary concerns with the religion (primarily, the pagan influences upon Christianity and inherent problems with numerous (and wildly varying) translations and interpretations of the "Word of God"...I'm sure at least a few members know what I'm talking about). But at least as a former Christian, it's nice to see someone not giving the Christian idea a bad name like so many extremists do.

I once read something to the effect of, the most rational and compassionate members of any religion resemble one another in fundamental ways that transcend religious boundaries...I believe this to be true, and am encouraged to see compassion and reason in any approach to any religion.

Christianity is not an "evil religion"

Christian people are all different. Some are very good, and some are actually evil people.

Being a Christian does not automatically make you a good person. This stereo type needs to go away.

yup yup

But see thats what people don't understand.

We ARE ALL DIFFERENT.....in so many ways.

Christians are not all the same. Many are genuinely good, while others are so hateful.

Gays are not all the same. Many are good innocent people who are just trying to live thier lives, while others are just as superficial and judgemental as some Christians are.


YOU have to EXPOSE yourself to other people before you can make any judgements on them, IF AT ALL you even choose to make a judgement.