Dark Pheonix vs Franklin Richards

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Darth Martin
Who is more powerful?

batdude123
This is Psi-lord Franklin Richards, right?

Darth Martin
Yes

He-guy88
f richards wins

He-guy88
f Richards
powers Vast reality-manipulating powers of unknown scope, vast telepathic and telekinetic potential

Darth Martin
So......baisically he is the most powerful mutant?

batdude123
If this was the acutal Phoenix cosmic entity, then I would obviously go for her, but since it isn't..... I don't know, tough call.

Darth Martin
I said dark pheonix isnt that whatthe entity thing is.

He-guy88
Originally posted by Darth Martin
So......baisically he is the most powerful mutant?
pretty close to it

General Kon-El
KId franklin loses badly. Psi-Lord Franklin would put up a great fight. He'd probably have the edge. Im not sure

Lord Urizen
Can i get some FEATS of pri-lord Franklyn ?

Darth Martin
Originally posted by He-guy88
pretty close to it

So who's the most powerful mutant.

General Kon-El
No one knows. You can't really pick the most powerful mutant. All of them have different abilities and powers. Their experience is different and powers are unique. There are a variety of mutant powers. THis is like comparing neurosurgeons, biochemists, and astrophysicists and asking who is the smartest.

Darth Martin
wink

guy222
Franklin Richards was Avatar and Psi Lord

As a child, he defeated Mephisto and he equals a Celestial although Ashema resurrected him

Dark Phoenix killed billions

Sundipped
Originally posted by guy222
Franklin Richards was Avatar and Psi Lord

As a child, he defeated Mephisto and he equals a Celestial although Ashema resurrected him

Dark Phoenix killed billions

If Franklin is equal to a Celestial as u say then DP>Celestial/Franklin.

id369
To be honest, Dark Phoenix was a short lived era.
I have no clue what Psi Lord can do >_>.

Power16
Originally posted by Sundipped
If Franklin is equal to a Celestial as u say then DP>Celestial/Franklin.

That would be Franklin at full potential. DP not as strong as a Celestial.

Isn't Psi-Lord best feat Universe busting...

Sundipped
Originally posted by Power16
That would be Franklin at full potential. DP not as strong as a Celestial.

Isn't Psi-Lord best feat Universe busting...

I betcha DP could crack a Celestial armor quicker than Sue and Thor did. stick out tongue

Power16
True but they would reform and the battle would be on, somewhat understood the Sue incident but not the Thor.

id369

Power16
Galactus at what level though? You and I both know he can operate at really low levels...

Was it, i thought it was just an alternate reality. What If always has some ridiculous showings.

id369
Originally posted by Power16
Galactus at what level though? You and I both know he can operate at really low levels...

Was it, i thought it was just an alternate reality. What If always has some ridiculous showings.

True, but then again after retcons this was not Jean Grey and the Phoenix Force acting as one. And its Prior to consuming the sun. Albeit a vary Hungry Phoenix. confused

Mr Master

Mr Master
Originally posted by Power16

Was it, i thought it was just an alternate reality.
It was.

And Psi-Lord wins here.

He exploded that Universe in an instant,
while Phoenix consumed that Universe from City/to State/to World/to Galaxy/ect.
meaning,
it doesn't take forever, but it's somewhat of a process,
since it's fire has to travel across the Universe burning everything in it's path.

Oh, and it was a "What If"

Which I don't think the thread starter added as a stipulation.

id369
Originally posted by Mr Master

Oh, and it was a "What If"

Which I don't think the thread starter added as a stipulation.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Anyhow I would like to read that What If, I here much about it.

123KID
here's the scans of what Mr. M is referring to if you haven't seen them before Id

Originally posted by Mr Master
Psi-Lord actually creates a Big Bang of Anti-Matter energy,

and attacks Vagaard with it:

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1687/v5zh5.th.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/612/v6ec6.th.jpg

"brace yourselves for the Big Bang"


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That Universe explodes:

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/1093/v7bu1.th.jpg

"Inconceivable ...
Space/Time itself has been torn asunder by the resulting cataclysm,

young Richards' powers are vast"

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Psi-Lord would not have survive that "Big Bang" he created,
so he escaped that Universe's implosion at the last moment:

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4827/psi1ab9.th.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8044/psi2wb8.th.jpg
"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket"

Terryc250
Originally posted by Power16
That would be Franklin at full potential. DP not as strong as a Celestial.

Isn't Psi-Lord best feat Universe busting...

DP > a celestial

id369

guy222
Scans are from Fantastic Force

What If Vulcan had the powers of the Phoenix

I can get u the issue if u like

guy222
Originally posted by Terryc250
DP > a celestial

Scathan the Approver>DP yes

And u know, I support both characters

id369
Originally posted by guy222
Scans are from Fantastic Force
I can get u the issue if u like

Can you hook it up, you can PM the links

Mr Master

Mr Master
Originally posted by id369

Anyhow I would like to read that What If, I here much about it.
I was referring to Phoenix,
the only place where she's ever destroyed a Universe. (What if)

Read it? You placed in your thread as a feat. roll eyes (sarcastic)

id369

Mr Master

id369
Originally posted by Mr Master
"A Big Bang implosion of Space/Time itself"

Do they really have to spell it out?

Actually you do.
Its well known that large energy discharges can effect the space/time fabric.

Smoki
Originally posted by Mr Master

"A Big Bang implosion of Space/Time itself"

Do they really have to spell it out?
thumbup1 psi lord is bad ass has he taken out other universes masters

Mr Master
Originally posted by Smoki
thumbup1 psi lord is bad ass has he taken out other universes masters
That's the only one that I've seen on panel,
but I'll look into my collection of his appearances,
to see if he's imploded Space/Time itself Big Bang style in other arcs.

id369
Ah I see, so no backing for Universal Destruction claim other then a recreating the big bang (apparently implosion), and effecting space/time fabric.

Mr Master
Originally posted by id369
Ah I see, so no backing for Universal Destruction claim other then a recreating the big bang (apparently implosion), and effecting space/time fabric.
Whatever you say dude.

Tearing Space/Time on a Big Bang implosion scale is not universal. wink1

Right, and Solar never affected a Universe either. Sure.

id369
Originally posted by Mr Master
Whatever you say dude.

Tearing Space/Time on a Big Bang implosion scale is not universal. wink1

Right, and Solar never affected a Universe either. Sure.
Well no reason to bring the Solar debate here, but I can continue it somewhere else.

You cant really compare a universe that has expanded billions of years, to its former state prior to the big bang. And you cant say that a big bang like explosion would not effect the space/time, when we see a sun/star entering its final state effect space/time fabric in its explosion.

Mr Master
Originally posted by id369

Well no reason to bring the Solar debate here,
but I can continue it somewhere else.
I just think it's interesting you're pulling the same tactics here.

Coincidentally, it was Solar vs Phoenix.
Originally posted by id369

You cant really compare a universe that has expanded billions of years,
to its former state prior to the big bang.
What does this have to do with anything?
Originally posted by id369

And you cant say that a big bang like explosion would not effect the space/time
Huh?
Originally posted by id369

when we see a sun/star entering its final state effect space/time fabric in its explosion.
You're the first person I've seen,
claiming that a Sun/Star dying can cause a Big Bang-type explosion.

Mr Master
Anywho .. this is silly, Psi-Lord exploded that Universe, simple and plain.

Tearing asunder Space/Time itself on a Big Bang scale is,

blowing up a Universe.

No question about it.

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Not to mention,
that Psi-Lord attacked Vangaard,
a beast who's purpose is to erase entire UniverseS across the Marvel Omniverse:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3183/v1cu6.th.jpg

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Not to mention,
Huntara with her Psionic Scythe can peer into other TImelines,
she confirmed Vangaard's purpose
and saw 4 UniverseS he had just erased prior to entering their Timeline:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8882/v2we7.th.jpg

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Not to mention,
Huntara also confirms that the Anti-matter implosion is of a staggering magnitude,
and only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3091/v3he1.th.jpg

That other Universe anyone?

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Not to mention,
that Vangaard has already erase 1,000,000 entire Universes (Timelines)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8140/v5gs1.th.jpg

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Makes perfect sense why he attacked Vangaard by imploding the Universe around him.
(although even that, didn't work)

Vangaard was going to erase their own Timeline,
like Huntara said:

"only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction.

id369
Originally posted by Mr Master
I just think it's interesting you're pulling the same tactics here.

Coincidentally, it was Solar vs Phoenix.


You must be high . Because I have never involved myself in a Solar vs. Phoenix debate.

Originally posted by Mr Master
What does this have to do with anything?

With your claim that a big bang implosion, would effectively destroy the universe.
Originally posted by Mr Master
You're the first person I' seen,
claiming that a Sun/Star dying can cause a Big Bang-type explosion.

Correction I stated, that a dying star/sun effects the space/time fabric.

And for all your image posts, with briefing. It still failed to mention the destruction of the universe.

Mr Master
Originally posted by id369

You must be high .
Because I have never involved myself in a Solar vs. Phoenix debate.
And you must be high to accuse Galan of exaggerating Solar's feat,
everyone was letting you know.
Originally posted by id369

With your claim that a big bang implosion,
would effectively destroy the universe.
So you are high if you think otherwise.
Originally posted by id369

Correction I stated, that a dying star/sun effects the space/time fabric.
None of the Psi-Lord scans (exploding Space/Time) mention anything about "fabric" lala.

Simply, Space/Time itself:
Originally posted by Mr Master

Psi-Lord explodes an entire Universe in Vangaard's face:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6461/v6ec6eb5.th.jpg

"Brace yourselves for the Big Bang"

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http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1415/v7bu1tm0.th.jpg

"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"

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Even Psi-Lord wouldn't have survived,
he had to escape into a Sub-pocket of Space withIN his armor:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7582/psi2wb8gi0.th.jpg

"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket"

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"A Big Bang implosion of Space/Time itself"

yawn

Originally posted by id369

And for all your image posts, with briefing.
It still failed to mention the destruction of the universe.
As you wish.

Have fun. smile

id369

Mr Master

Cosmic Flame
Dark Phoenix for the win.

id369

GalacticStorm

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