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who would win in a fight, a really angrey hulk (betty dead) or the (crappy) silver surfer? i love the hulk and i hate the surfer so i choose the hulk and (if you dont mind) tell me whos your favourate so debate now!

i am the opposite opinion of you .
i dont like hulk at all
and i think silver surfer is more powerful than hulk , not pyhsically of course.
hulk will loose after a long fight

I absolutely love the Hulk and appreciate Surfer, but the latter wins.

SS takes this.

Haha.

The (crappy) silver surfer would lose. Nice opening debate topic...

*rolls eyes*

the Surfer takes this. Every. Single. Time.

yeah sufer would beat the living $*** out of hulk sufer can go up to 100x speed of light so i hear

Originally posted by Sea King
yeah sufer would beat the living $*** out of hulk sufer can go up to 100x speed of light so i hear
300x......

Surfer owns Hulk just like Strange does.

Damn you chamillion I hate surfer though, hes too much of a pacifist for his own good..makes for boring reading.

300 times the speed of light? Did Silver Surfer walk over to the DC camp or what?

I don't care how mad the hulk is, If the Surfer sucks out all the radiation in the Hulk's body, he looses.

he has done it b4.

Originally posted by Mr.V
Damn you chamillion I hate surfer though, hes too much of a pacifist for his own good..makes for boring reading.
Shut up... but that just makes it more enjoyable when he goes all out.Originally posted by Dinalfos
300 times the speed of light? Did Silver Surfer walk over to the DC camp or what?
Nah he doesn't speed blitz.......

They've fought before and Surfer's owned him both times. Surfer wins this.

Hulk can't beat the Surfer.

SS wins this, Its in the contract. . Same with Thanos owns SS. Contract rules .

Originally posted by complexbrother
I don't care how mad the hulk is, If the Surfer sucks out all the radiation in the Hulk's body, he looses.

he has done it b4.

Yep that's it fights over go home Banner stop wasting your time here.

Looks like hulk will be limited to being angry in his human form, cuz surfer will suck him dry

this was not a sexual inuendo

Hulk cant kill a fully powered Surfer

Please, there is no amount of rage that would put Hulk on the level of SS. SS wins 10/10.

I really don't see how the Hulk can win, I wish I could find the scans, but in addition to all the other ways SS would beat him, there was a time when the Hulk was really angry and throwing trees at fighter planes. The Surfer disperses the matter in the tree saving a jet and the Hulk asks him if that was his doing. Surfer says yes, and that he could do the same to the Hulk!

Too easy for SS IMO.

Hmm, strange... when Thanos beats Surfer with his bare hands, nobody complains.

But when an enraged Hulk (who is faster and stronger than Thanos) would do the same, it would be called crap writing. I guess I'll never understand it...

Don't get me wrong, written to his full potential, Surfer owns Hulk every single time ! No question about it.

But if Thanos can beat Surfer in a fist fight, Hulk can do the same. Period.

you dont know if the surfer cant be hurt by hulk in a really angry form he was taking surfers power cosmic and not even being effected and he was kicking the surfer around although the guy wasnt being hurt, point is there might be a level of rage to eventually hurt him, are you saying war hulk couldnt kill him?

Originally posted by Skeets
300x......

Surfer owns Hulk just like Strange does.



The Surfer can haul ass when he wants to
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Originally posted by who?-kid
Hmm, strange... when Thanos beats Surfer with his bare hands, nobody complains.

But when an enraged Hulk (who is faster and stronger than Thanos) would do the same, it would be called crap writing. I guess I'll never understand it...

Don't get me wrong, written to his full potential, Surfer owns Hulk every single time ! No question about it.

But if Thanos can beat Surfer in a fist fight, Hulk can do the same. Period.

Well, I'm not too sure about if you could say that Thanos used his bare hands to beat the Surfer as there appears to be an energy aspect to Thanos' attacks. Theoretically, I suppose the Hulk could reach a level where he could physically harm the Surfer but the circumstances which would ever allow that to happen seem too outlandish to be probable, imo.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7704/surfer29io8zy.th.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8485/ss29xu.th.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5980/ss36dj.th.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7189/ss43fs.th.jpg

(unless you're talking about another fight, in which case disregard these scans and my post )

See, this is what I mean. Surfer is like Flash, but he just doesn't use his speed when fighting Thanos. Almost never. That is horrible writing.

Why can't he just fly a few hundred feet above Thanos head and hit him with everything he's got, one power blast after the other ? No, the idiot has to come CLOSE to Thanos, and doesn't need to use his incredible speed.

Crap writing.

Originally posted by who?-kid
See, this is what I mean. Surfer is like Flash, but he just doesn't use his speed when fighting Thanos. Almost never. That is horrible writing.

Why can't he just fly a few hundred feet above Thanos head and hit him with everything he's got, one power blast after the other ? No, the idiot has to come CLOSE to Thanos, and doesn't need to use his incredible speed.

Crap writing.

It is odd that you hardly see any Marvel character utilize the speedblitz like their contemporaries in DC. I wonder why that is especially when so many of the characters share the same general powersets.

Good question. It's a bit like the Flash dilemma : he should be able to beat almost everybody, but Deathstroke - who's like a million times slower - owns him.

I think it's stupid to make a character too powerful (or too fast), because they become boring pretty quickly. It's even more stupid to give a character certain powers, but never let them use it when they really need it.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Hmm, strange... when Thanos beats Surfer with his bare hands, nobody complains.

But when an enraged Hulk (who is faster and stronger than Thanos) would do the same, it would be called crap writing. I guess I'll never understand it...

Don't get me wrong, written to his full potential, Surfer owns Hulk every single time ! No question about it.

But if Thanos can beat Surfer in a fist fight, Hulk can do the same. Period.

Hulk is stronger and faster than Thanos? Is that why Thanos has slapped Hulk away like a rag doll? I hate to say it, but at his base level Thanos is way above the Hulk in strength and speed. Besides, didn't Peter Davis say that Thanos was in a whole other strength league from the Hulk?

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Hulk is stronger and faster than Thanos?
An enraged Hulk yes.

When ?

Strength I agree (not much stronger though). Speed ? Don't make me laugh.

You mean Peter David instead of Peter David. And it's not like Peter David is THE AUTHORITY and THE BIBLE when it comes down to Thanos.

He is just a writer with his own view on Thanos, like so many other writers.

If I had a GL ring, the first thing I would do is kill the idea that the Hulk could hold Thanos jockstrap. And I like the Hulk. For some reason I buy him even when Marvel does dumb s**t with him. But by no stretch of the imagination is he as fast as Thanos. He could get angry enough to match Thanos base strength, but by then he should already be dead (no PIS, no CIS). And I won't even bring up the fact that Thanos can increase his physical strength even further with cosmic enrgy.

Back to topic, SS should beat a Hulk that's just witnessed Betty being tortured 10/10.

Originally posted by TheKahn
It is odd that you hardly see any Marvel character utilize the speedblitz like their contemporaries in DC. I wonder why that is especially when so many of the characters share the same general powersets.

in thanos quest, runner made thanos look like an incompetent boob for a while using his speed. and the speed he was using was NOT beyond what ss (or any cosmic, really) could bring to bear against thanos.

i'll disagree with the above. i think hulk COULD reach or surpass thanos in strength. champion appeared to be physically more powerful than thanos, so his strength, while great, is not limitless. thanos 'beat' champ by using his brains and stranding him in space. he never 'beat' him in the traditional sense. and there is always that controversial line thanos muttered but having tried to avoid any confontations with hulk, also implying that thanos too thinks hulk might pose a threat physically. he even went as far as comparing champ to what it would be like fighting hulk as champ was readying to burst his force field.

Since when is SS a weakling in the strength department? He is well above 100 class. A fully powered surfer can be ultra strong. He just doesnt fly fast and shoot energy from his fists. He has other traits as well.

Anyhow hulk takes this easy...

















J/K Surfer 10/10

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*sigh*

Why bump this? So we can listen to some of DevilHulk's innane bullshit?

The Surfer takes this with ridiculous ease.

How about angry Surfer vs angry Hulk?

Originally posted by Soljer
*sigh*

Why bump this? So we can listen to some of DevilHulk's innane bullshit?

The Surfer takes this with ridiculous ease.
I have to admit that I wanted to hear what the Hulk fans thought of the fight that I have posted.

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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
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jawdrop Damn, Silver Surfer is a BADASS when he's pissed!

Originally posted by Badabing
jawdrop Damn, Silver Surfer is a BADASS when he's pissed!
Don't make the Silver Surfer angry you won't like him when he is angry.

More angry Surfer
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SS wins......whats also funny is some people think Hulk can kick Thanos' ass ,yet Thanos kicks SS ass who can kick Hulks.ass.....interesting

Originally posted by who?-kid


When ?


I believe he means the infamous 'Pimp hand' panel wherein Thanos slaps away both hulk and thing (or possibly Thing , Hulk and Thor) while stating "You call yourself strong ! "

Originally posted by who?-kid
Strength I agree (not much stronger though). Speed ? Don't make me laugh.


I'd say their roughly equal in running speed , though i have no doubt Thanos could amp himself with PC

Originally posted by grey fox
I believe he means the infamous 'Pimp hand' panel wherein Thanos slaps away both hulk and thing (or possibly Thing , Hulk and Thor) while stating "You call yourself strong ! "
Or the panel where he slaps away Hulk and Drax with ease. Infinity Gauntlet Saga is the issue where that feat is from, if anyone's interested.

Jugg please put there issuenumbers....I hate when someone shows scans and no issuenumbers.

Originally posted by Badabing

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For Rewmac. These scans are from The Incredible Hulk, Planet Hulk, Exile Part 4, issue #95.

Originally posted by Badabing
For Rewmac. These scans are from The Incredible Hulk, Planet Hulk, Exile Part 4, issue #95.
Wasn't Surfer depowered, mind controlled and unable to use the power cosmic there?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Wasn't Surfer depowered, mind controlled and unable to use the power cosmic there?
I have the issue in front of me and it's vague at best. Both Hulk and Surfer were depowered and controlled by obedience disks. Surfer had his board but couldn't use "The Power Cosmic". No, I don't think the Hulk should win against Silver Surfer. I was making a point on how this type of result can be spun into making Hulk (or any character) shown to beat characters out of their league.

SS wins this with terrible ease. Yes hulk can get stronger as he gets angrier, but his anger is no match for the power cosmic. To quote SS from Marvel Ultimate Alliance, the power cosmic can not be defeated, thats espically true in this case.