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Reed Richards goes solo and moves to Gotham City.

He starts to fight the evil crime world that infest the city of Gotham.


All of Batman's villians and Batman himself are trying to find him and bring him down.


Can Reed Richards take out Batman's villians, plus keep, away from Batman.

Reed wares a mask, Dose not use anykind of weapons or gadgets.so know one knows who he is.



Villians he might run into:
Bane
Black Mask
Blockbuster
Calender Man
Cat-Man
Catwoman
Cluemaster
Colonel Brass
David Cain
Deadshot
Harley Quinn
Hush
Hugo Strange
The Joker
KGBeast
Killer Croc Killer
Moth
King Snake
Lady Shiva
Mad Hatter
Man-Bat
Maxwell Lord
Mister Freeze
Nocturna
The Penguin
Poison Ivy
Ra's Al Ghul
The Riddler
Scarecrow
Two-Face
Ventriloquist

batman looses his job in DC, and does comics for marvel..then gets pimp slapped by DOOM

Batman will now have more time for those late nights with robin.inlove

Originally posted by spideycarnage
batman looses his job in DC, and does comics for marvel..then gets pimp slapped by DOOM



So true

Bah, a stretchy man can't be that hard to find. Batman employs his plastic man countermeasure.

Mister Freeze or Scarecrow could give him a fight. I actually think they'd do really well if they switched places.

Batman in FF wouldn't really do that well, though.

"Quick, Bruce, you must find the equation to open the extradimensional gate to Negative dimension and warp us through it so Thing can breathe again!"

"...what?!"

Reed would do shit, i mean he supposed one of the most smartest men in marvel, and there is still crime in the world. he could make a anti evil device or something

Reed without his gadgets or weapons is just a punk and anyone of the baddies would take him out. Granted Reed is uber smart but Bats is the supreme detective and would find him in a heart beat.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Batman in FF wouldn't really do that well, though.

"Quick, Bruce, you must find the equation to open the extradimensional gate to Negative dimension and warp us through it so Thing can breathe again!"

"...what?!"

Originally posted by ThePittman
Reed without his gadgets or weapons is just a punk and anyone of the baddies would take him out. Granted Reed is uber smart but Bats is the supreme detective and would find him in a heart beat.

Wow you underestimate Reed so much

Reed is indestructable.

He is smarter, stronger and debatably faster than Batman.

How is he a punk!?!?

Originally posted by ThePittman
Reed without his gadgets or weapons is just a punk and anyone of the baddies would take him out. Granted Reed is uber smart but Bats is the supreme detective and would find him in a heart beat.



Are you serious? Reed without his gadgets and weapons is still a genious who makes Batman look like a retarded, one legged seventy year old guy who has just awaken from coma. This is a man who made his father, who is a scientist who invented a time travel machine stand in awe when Reed solved a complex mathematical equation he had been wondering. And Reed was about EIGHT YEARS OLD THEN. And he still has his powers which enable him to go hurt guys like Namor...

Reed would pwn Batman left and right when it comes to scientific accomplishments, and he would pwn him up and down if it would come to battle. Prep time or not.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler


Are you serious? Reed without his gadgets and weapons is still a genious who makes Batman look like a retarded, one legged seventy year old guy who has just awaken from coma. This is a man who made his father, who is a scientist who invented a time travel machine stand in awe when Reed solved a complex mathematical equation he had been wondering. And Reed was about EIGHT YEARS OLD THEN. And he still has his powers which enable him to go hurt guys like Namor...

Reed would pwn Batman left and right when it comes to scientific accomplishments, and he would pwn him up and down if it would come to battle. Prep time or not.

Yep

Seriously, Reed is VERY underestimated by everyone.

He's Doom's rival for a reason people

Reed hangs with guys like Namor, Bats cant handle that

What could Batman without prep and his villians do against MF

Reed has led Fantastic Four for years. He's gone against interdimensional conquers, beings with cosmic powers, godlike beings and REAL gods, Galactus...and they are still alive this day, and even though Thing died once, Reed went to heaven, literally, and got him back. Tactically, Reed has led his team through things that Batman can't even dream of.

I don't see few gangsters and lunatics with mild superhuman powers and resources give him any problems. Reed Richards still has his unrivaled mind, and it can be used to do another things then just invent gadgets.

As for guys like Bane...Reed coud face him in combat and prevail with ease. His punches have hurt Namor...they would easily knock out Bane. He is able to increase his bodymass or transfer it to one point and make his punches more powerful that way.

I really need to make a Reed respect thread. Most people don't know that he is one of the most foremost masters of Judo either.

I think you guys are downplaying Batman and overhyping Reed. Batman would have no trouble fitting in the Marvel Universe. If he WAS in the Marvel Universe, he'd have contigency plans for almost everyone on 616.

"Quick, Bruce, you must find the equation to open the extradimensional gate to Negative dimension and warp us through it so Thing can breathe again!"

*Batman gives Thing a rebreather*

Batman: Now let's motherbox our way out of here.

FF with Batman (To Nihil): You're a whore if you mess with the Fantastic Four!

And sure, Reeds is great, but Bruce can do THIS:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1473208.htm

kidding.

Plus, Reeds isn't a detective. He'd be doing some pointless mathematical equation to try to predict what all the villains will do, but they're too insane for that. He'd be constantly too late to stop murders left and right. And he'd suck at blending in too. He's not good enough to hide like Bruce, and once people start seeing his bright blue costume, he'd attract attention, and then the criminals will start figuring out his weaknesses. Energy Weapons. Cold Temperatures (which messes up his elasticity). Also, he's more dependant on a team, whilst Batman usually takes on the "One Man War On Crime" ideology. Alone, Reed is not likely to take on Gods, Demigods, or any super being. He'd be out of his element in Gotham.

Reed goes down. He meets real villains.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I really need to make a Reed respect thread. Most people don't know that he is one of the most foremost masters of Judo either.
Beat you to it...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t399053.html

It's not much, but it's something. I also believe I saw a scan of Invisible Woman using judo on Doom and commenting that Reed taught her. maybe I'll find the scan and post it there.

He's also a judomaster. Just ask sue

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
I think you guys are downplaying Batman and overhyping Reed. Batman would have no trouble fitting in the Marvel Universe. If he WAS in the Marvel Universe, he'd have contigency plans for almost everyone on 616.

"Quick, Bruce, you must find the equation to open the extradimensional gate to Negative dimension and warp us through it so Thing can breathe again!"

*Batman gives Thing a rebreather*

Batman: Now let's motherbox our way out of here.

FF with Batman (To Nihil): You're a whore if you mess with the Fantastic Four!

And sure, Reeds is great, but Bruce can do THIS:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1473208.htm

kidding.

What would Batman do if all their equimpment would be destroyed and he actually would have to made a teleporter himself out of alien technology he has never encountered before? Or when he would need to face Terminus or some other interdimensional god in battle and find a way to defeat them in half a minute?

Pray?

It's Batman who is WAY above his level here.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Plus, Reeds isn't a detective. He'd be doing some pointless mathematical equation to try to predict what all the villains will do, but they're too insane for that. He'd be constantly too late to stop murders left and right. And he'd suck at blending in too. He's not good enough to hide like Bruce, and once people start seeing his bright blue costume, he'd attract attention, and then the criminals will start figuring out his weaknesses. Energy Weapons. Cold Temperatures (which messes up his elasticity). Also, he's more dependant on a team, whilst Batman usually takes on the "One Man War On Crime" ideology. Alone, Reed is not likely to take on Gods, Demigods, or any super being. He'd be out of his element in Gotham.

Not half of Batman's villains are insane enough for Reed not to understand them, and even those who are can be understood by him. Reed has predicted what aliens or magical creatures that aren't even from this world would do, insane minds won't be a problem, since understanding the workings of mind is one of his fields too. And can't blend in? He can mimic his appearence and face to disguise as another person, creature or inanimate object if he wishes so. Reed has defeated enemies without his teammates. And he is 99% of the time the guy who finds a way to defeat them also. Reed does not need his team...they can't work really without Reed.

And Batman's villains would not just figure out that he is weak to those things...I doubt that an universal genius would just run at a guy named "Mr.Freeze".

Originally posted by Accel
Namor couldn't even physically hurt Reed. Killer Croc and Clay Face sure won't do any thing. He's been shown to amp his strength up to Thing levels.

Reed probably can't keep away from Batman for good, but he doesn't need to.

I wouldnt say he can amp up to Thing level

More like 50 tons

Also, Reed has been taking Ben's punches for years now and Ben is a hell of a lot stronger than any of Batman's villans

Originally posted by Grimm22
I wouldnt say he can amp up to Thing level

More like 50 tons

Also, Reed has been taking Ben's punches for years now and Ben is a hell of a lot stronger than any of Batman's villans
I believe it's been stated he amped his size and strength to "Thing like proportions" when he confronted Onslaught.

Originally posted by Accel
I believe it's been stated he amped his size and strength to "Thing like proportions" when he confronted Onslaught.

Did it

Hmm, i'll have to go back and read that issue.

I remeber the scene which you are talking about.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler


Not half of Batman's villains are insane enough for Reed not to understand them

Which one isn't insane?

, and even those who are can be understood by him. Reed has predicted what aliens or magical creatures that aren't even from this world would do, insane minds won't be a problem, since understanding the workings of mind is one of his fields too.

Please, Reed can't even grasp the concept of magic. Sure, he could logically predict what aliens or magical creatures might do, but none of them were insane. Batman's villains are more illogical than anything Reed's dealt with.

He can mimic his appearence and face to disguise as another person, creature or inanimate object if he wishes so

His costume is freakin blue. Blue vase. Blue floor. Blue creature. Yeah, I'm sure he'd make a great detective.

Reed has defeated enemies without his teammates. And he is 99% of the time the guy who finds a way to defeat them also. Reed does not need his team...they can't work really without Reed.

He can think of ways to defeat them, but 99% of the time he requires a team.

And Batman's villains would not just figure out that he is weak to those things...I doubt that an universal genius would just run at a guy named "Mr.Freeze".

How could they not?

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Originally posted by DarkCrawler


Which one isn't insane?
I said insane enough. Most of them are just gangsters or crooks with extra murderous tendencies and something special which makes them dangerous.


Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
, and even those who are can be understood by him. Reed has predicted what aliens or magical creatures that aren't even from this world would do, insane minds won't be a problem, since understanding the workings of mind is one of his fields too.

Please, Reed can't even grasp the concept of magic. Sure, he could logically predict what aliens or magical creatures might do, but none of them were insane. Batman's villains are more illogical than anything Reed's dealt with.

Let's see. It took roughly thirty minutes for Dr.Strange to teach Reed to use magical objects and incantations to get him in level where he could go toe to toe with Doctor Doom in magical combat...

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Originally posted by DarkCrawler


His costume is freakin blue. Blue vase. Blue floor. Blue creature. Yeah, I'm sure he'd make a great detective.

*Sigh*

Unstable molecules. They change their form.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Originally posted by DarkCrawler


He can think of ways to defeat them, but 99% of the time he requires a team.

And you think Batman could defeat cosmic being without their help?

Reed requires his team because he competes in different ballpark then Batman.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Originally posted by DarkCrawler


How could they not?

Because they don't know the first thing about him...

Alright, Darkcrawler has the better argument.

But I just want to say that you are undermining Batman's intelligence. Just because he doesn't apply himself to science as well as Reeds doesn't mean Reed is smarter than him. Batman has a much larger range of masteries.


- Greatest Detective in DC

- Lock Picking Skills

- Trained In Over Hundreds Of Martial Arts

- Expert In Criminology, Sociology, Biology, Chemistry, Astrophysics, Mechanics, Law, Psychology, Anatomy and Physiology, Biotechnology, Genetic Engineering, Social and Technical Sciences etc.

- Master Artistry

- Can speak English, Mandarin, Japanese, Middle Eastern Languages, Russian, German, Australian, Spanish, French all fluently

- Load of money and business pioneering skills

- Proven to be the smartest human alive in DC (DC One Million arc)

- Array Of Gadgets to compensate for no cheap superhuman powers

- Hacking Skills

- Perfect Marksman

- Chick Magnet; CATWOMAN, BATGIRL, WONDER WOMAN, TALIA



It can't be proven that Reeds is smarter than Bruce, only that what he says happens to be more verbose, pretentious, and vague in that it uses scientific doubletalk. So from now on I think if anybody says that Reed is infinitely smarter than Bruce, I'll just start debating with them.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence


- Greatest Detective in DC -

And ? As previously stated Reed can guess what aliens are doing easily enough , how is a thug with no particular pattern comparable to a alien mind.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence

- Lock Picking Skills -

Reed can stretch his fingers into a suitable shape to unlock doors , he can also hook up to pc's

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence

Trained In Over Hundreds Of Martial Arts -

Judo pwns !

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence

- Expert In Criminology, Sociology, Biology, Chemistry, Astrophysics, Mechanics, Law, Psychology, Anatomy and Physiology, Biotechnology, Genetic Engineering, Social and Technical Sciences etc.

As is reed , except reed is 100 X better.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence

- Master Artistry .

Ahh yes, because linguistic skills are a necessity to crime fighting...

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence

- Can speak English, Mandarin, Japanese, Middle Eastern Languages, Russian, German, Australian, Spanish, French all fluently .

Reed has a universal translator in his suit


Originally posted by MrHeavySilence

- Proven to be the smartest human alive in DC (DC One Million arc)

How is a descendant a valid point ?

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence

- Array Of Gadgets to compensate for no cheap superhuman powers .

Please Batman is the cheapest character in all of Dc . He can somehow accomplish crap which Supes (with all his powers) can't.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence

- Hacking Skills .

Reeds are better.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Alright, Darkcrawler has the better argument.

But I just want to say that you are undermining Batman's intelligence. Just because he doesn't apply himself to science as well as Reeds doesn't mean Reed is smarter than him. Batman has a much larger range of masteries.

- Greatest Detective in DC

- Lock Picking Skills

- Trained In Over Hundreds Of Martial Arts

- Expert In Criminology, Sociology, Biology, Chemistry, Astrophysics, Mechanics, Law, Psychology, Anatomy and Physiology, Biotechnology, Genetic Engineering, Social and Technical Sciences etc.

- Master Artistry

- Can speak English, Mandarin, Japanese, Middle Eastern Languages, Russian, German, Australian, Spanish, French all fluently

- Load of money and business pioneering skills

- Proven to be the smartest human alive in DC (DC One Million arc)

- Array Of Gadgets to compensate for no cheap superhuman powers

- Hacking Skills

- Perfect Marksman

- Chick Magnet; CATWOMAN, BATGIRL, WONDER WOMAN, TALIA

I can speak Australian too... i.e. English. You probably mean the language of Australian Aborigines in which case there are like a hundred dialects...

How are lockpicking and martial arts skills and marksmenship measures of intelligence...

Expert criminologist yes... but (I think I've asked this before) really.. how often does he consistently exhibit expertise in genetic engineering or the legal framework or complex human anatomy.

It's arguable whether giving a character plot device gadgets or giving a character superpowers is more 'cheap'.

Reed's married to the incredibly hot and incredibly powerful Invisible Woman while Bruce spends most of his time with boy wonder...

really, what issue did they establish that?



Yeah....but follows the Michael jackson template of having young preteens around

Originally posted by grey fox
You don't seem to understand.

Street smarts aren't intelligence , their a mix of cunning and violence.


Whereas reed's opened a stable dimensional portal wherein creatures reside which make Cluthlu look like my little pony.

Bastman's a moron compared to Reed. Yes I do understand what intelligence means. 1 a : the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations b : the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (as tests). Street smarts and book smarts are two different applications of the same thing. Each uses their intelligence in different ways.

So I wonder why batman did not piss his pants when the Spectre had him and the jla in that extra dimension prison?

And one last thing how is Reed vastly more inteligent than batman?

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
So I wonder why batman did not piss his pants when the Spectre had him and the jla in that extra dimension prison? That was a joke, I know that he wouldn't piss his pants he has a gadget for that.

Ok you made your point, now about you stop at me.

Originally posted by grey fox
And ? As previously stated Reed can guess what aliens are doing easily enough , how is a thug with no particular pattern comparable to a alien mind.

Exactly though, they are contrasting differences. Whatever aliens he faced, think logically. Thugs don't; they're more spontaneous.



Reed can stretch his fingers into a suitable shape to unlock doors , he can also hook up to pc's

Batman learned it without using powers.


Judo pwns !

vs. 127 martial arts? no


As is reed , except reed is 100 X better.

Seriously doubt that


Ahh yes, because linguistic skills are a necessity to crime fighting...

They do if you're a detective.


Reed has a universal translator in his suit

Fair enough


How is a descendant a valid point ?

Descendant of what?



Please Batman is the cheapest character in all of Dc . He can somehow accomplish crap which Supes (with all his powers) can't.

There's no such thing as cheating when you play to win.



Reeds are better.

Is that a conjecture, or do you have proof? Like Reed, Batman can deduce alien technology at a glance. Not even in continuity but: in the JLU Cartoon, Bruce hacked Chronos's belt with barely any contact with it. He probably observed it for a few seconds in part 1 and came up with a fast way to reprogram it. And I never said Reed is lesser than Batman, just that you are severely denying Bruce's intelligence , which is very high- I daresay, close to Reed on the "smartness" echelon.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
And one last thing how is Reed vastly more inteligent than batman? Because he:

A) Has WAY higher IQ

B) Has created things that Batman would can only dream about

C) Has accomplished stuff that Batman has wet dreams about

Batman has street smarts. But Reed is vastly more intelligent. We are talking about a man who can open a portal to REAL Heaven in a day and go save his friend's soul.

As for aforementioned liguistic skills, Batman knows Earth languages...Reed knows them, PLUS Alien languages, and other languages that Batman hasn't even heard about (Atlantean language comes first on top of my mind). Only thing Batman is better then Reed is martial arts, psychology and criminology.

Sociology? Besides having complete understanding of nearly all Earth cultures and customs, he also has understanding of Alien sociology.

Biology? Reed Richards created an device that can restore the powers of mutants and superhumans in a short time.

Chemistry? Reed is vastly better. He, for example has created an antidote that works for 11000 different poisons and injected his team with it before they went to a mission.

Astrophysics? Please. We are talking about a man who can create a device that harnesses all the power of entire other galaxy, guy who can open portal to a Negative Zone as easily as you and me open a door, fellow who visits another planets, galaxies, dimensions, etc. with no trouble...he is so much above Batman in this thing that it is not even funny.

Mechanics? Don't. Just don't even go there. Reed has a working time machine in his lab.

Law? Well Batman might know this better.

Psychology? Batman knows this better too.

Anatomy and Physiology? No way. Besides complete understanding of human, mutant and animal physiologies, Reed knows also the physiologies of countless alien species and cosmic beings.

Biotechnology? Well, besides the aforementioned antidote, Reed has also created an device that shrunks things to molecular size, so he etc. can work on diseases from that level, and nanotechnology.

Genetic Engineering? You mean besides making gloves that can take back the stolen powers of Fantastic Four, changing the genetic structure of two people in a second?

Social and Technical Sciences? Well, this goes to the sociology. Reed understands the aspects of hundreds of cultures.

I am not denying Batman's intelligence. It is just that compared to Reed's it's not much.

Why in the world are you bringing up JLU feats?

Before all you people (read: DarkCrawler) continue dissing Batman, I suggest you pick up some JLA comics. Seriously, you're waaaaaay underestimating Batman and his intelligence.

I'm not saying he;s smarter than Reed, but he's faced stuff that matches anything Reed's faced.

With far more powerful team, other good strategists and intelligence and technology that really isn't his.

Usually, Reed devises the strategy on fly by himself, creates entire new revolutionizing technology on the same time to defeat them, and has a team where the only member close to JLA in power is Invisible Woman...

Still his takes on similar threats then JLA. And they are still alive.

And you are right that he is not smarter then Reed. He's far from matching him too. He's intelligent. I know a lot about Batman. He is one of my favorite characters, but he just doesn't compare. The most impressive pieces of technology he has are Mother Box and Boom tube. Neither of them he has created himself. Meanwhile, Reed has inventions equal to those, only that he's created them himself.

And I don't diss Batman.

If I say that Hulk is stronger then Thing, do I diss Thing? It's just that in this case, in the place of strength, there is intelligence.

And Reed is Hulk. Batman is Thing.

In comparison their IQ is probably pretty close, going back to my other post about intelligence it is the ability to learn new things and apply or control your environment. Now granted I would have to give the higher IQ to Reed but they use their minds in different fashions.

Reed's IQ is higher but not by much

Reed has build stuff batman could not hope to dream but batman should be able to study the device in thirty minutes and design his own in another thirty minutes.

Batman only builds what he needs...if it requires batman to start thinking like reed to get his message across I have no dought he would be able to do so.

Besides there isn't much reed can do that batman would not be able to replicate.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Reed's IQ is higher but not by much

Reed has build stuff batman could not hope to dream but batman should be able to study the device in thirty minutes and design his own in another thirty minutes.

Batman only builds what he needs...if it requires batman to start thinking like reed to get his message across I have no dought he would be able to do so.

Besides there isn't much reed can do that batman would not be able to replicate.
So your basically saying Batman can do what ever Reed can do by copying Reed.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Reed's IQ is higher but not by much

Reed has build stuff batman could not hope to dream but batman should be able to study the device in thirty minutes and design his own in another thirty minutes.

Batman only builds what he needs...if it requires batman to start thinking like reed to get his message across I have no dought he would be able to do so.

Besides there isn't much reed can do that batman would not be able to replicate. Innovation vs imitation...

If I wanted to I could "rediscover" the structure of DNA... it's not getting me a Nobel prize.

anyone have scans of Reed going to Heaven for thing?

Yess



Not to say that batman cannot build or invent his own stuff on the spot.

But if you unlock a gene in certain areas in the human genome you will be getting a Noble Piece Price. For example this guy discovered the structure of DNA, but you used the DNA data that this guy found to discover something new. You will be getting a Noble Piece Price why because you have just given a new way to look at DNA.

Hence when batman rebuild's what ever it is Reed built he would have improved on it. To make it his and no longer reed's invention.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Yes
Not to say that batman cannot build or invent his own stuff on the spot.
But if you unlock a gene in certain areas in the human genome you will be getting a Noble Piece Price. For example this guy discovered the structure of DNA, but you used the DNA data that this guy found to discover something new. You will be getting a Noble Piece Price why because you have just given a new way to look at DNA.
They don't tend to award a Nobel Peace Prize (?) to scientists based on their discoveries...
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Hence when batman rebuild's what ever it is Reed built he would have improved on it. To make it his and no longer reed's invention. You've gone from saying anything Reed can build Bruce can build too... which to me was already a bit of a stretch... to saying anything Reed can build Bruce can build better?

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Yess



Not to say that batman cannot build or invent his own stuff on the spot.

But if you unlock a gene in certain areas in the human genome you will be getting a Noble Piece Price. For example this guy discovered the structure of DNA, but you used the DNA data that this guy found to discover something new. You will be getting a Noble Piece Price why because you have just given a new way to look at DNA.

Hence when batman rebuild's what ever it is Reed built he would have improved on it. To make it his and no longer reed's invention.
Copying off of Reed's design doesn't make Batman nearly as intelligent as Reed, though. It just means Batman is good at copying other people.

Do you think if Batman managed to construct a time machine based off of what he saw Reed do, he'd be able to improve upon it?

I think the martial arts thing is overrated. Depending on which ones they are, 1 martial art can trump many. And with Reed's powers, I don't think any martial art will have much an effect on him or any move he'll have difficulty pulling off without the hinderance of bones and joints.

True but this would be no small discovery. Who ever does such a thing is getting rewarded.



Yeah.....and better for bruce.

Besided what evidence has come to possession that would suggest that would not be able to do what reed does?

Batman has better "street smarts" while reed has better "book smarts"

Yes, reed is smarter than batman but not by lot like some people here think. If batman wanted to do things like reed he would succeed but that would just make him too over powering and I don't think that would make good comic when the character is batman or someone similar.



No improvement because what is a time machine? Its just some device that allows you to go backwards and forward in time.

Reed Wraps up all of gotham, and uses his body as a trampoline to send all of arkham into Black Adam's Country, where all of their bodies are instantly ripped apart, and blood rains down from the sky.

BTW. Anyone know who that girl is in MrHeavySilence sig? Reminds me of Zhang Ziyi, but in any case is incredibly hot...

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Yeah.....and better for bruce.

Besided what evidence has come to possession that would suggest that would not be able to do what reed does? The lack of evidence to suggest he can.Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Yes, reed is smarter than batman but not by lot like some people here think. If batman wanted to do things like reed he would succeed but that would just make him too over powering and I don't think that would make good comic when the character is batman or someone similar.Superman and Wonder Woman succumb to his jobber aura yet the reason he isn't shown to do the things read does is because it would make him seem to powerful?
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
No improvement because what is a time machine? Its just some device that allows you to go backwards and forward in time. The best ones go sideways too

Look! I stole an cellphone! Now it has a coffee machine strapped on it with tape and glue!

I AM A GENIUS!!!!

Stealing designs and putting something little on them does not make Batman Reed's equal. Actually, it makes him worse, since he obviously could not come close to him without stealing. And even then, he hasn't invented the most difficult things by himself

Reed >>>> Batman.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Look! I stole an cellphone! Now it has a coffee machine strapped on it with tape and glue!

I AM A GENIUS!!!!

Stealing designs and putting something little on them does not make Batman Reed's equal. Actually, it makes him worse, since he obviously could not come close to him without stealing. And even then, he hasn't invented the most difficult things by himself

Reed >>>> Batman.

What an awful thing to say DC! schmoll I think I'm going to be sick.... puke

Originally posted by batdude123
What an awful thing to say DC! schmoll I think I'm going to be sick.... puke
You know it's true.

Well who's the better detective?

Here is the lowdown:

Topic Point:

Can Reed successfully infiltrate Gotham and takeout the Bat's baddies using just himself, yes.

Can he do this without being found by Batman:
1. If Batman is going all out and Reed has no gadgets, then probably not.
2. If Batman is just attempting to track without gadgets, then probably yes.

Is Reed overall smarter than Batman, hands down yes.

Also, Reed vrs. Batman:

1. Hand to Hand: Reed
2. Both with prep: Reed

And in my own opinion, Batman is WAY WAY WAY overrated.

Well they do say Ignorance is bliss



what?



what are you talking about?

Batman is politically smart like a good leader of a country who would understand the world better while Reed is more of when you think of a scientist genius like when you think of Einstein

Reed w/ mother box........dread to think about it........is nigh unstoppable. lol

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Look! I stole an cellphone! Now it has a coffee machine strapped on it with tape and glue!

I AM A GENIUS!!!!

Stealing designs and putting something little on them does not make Batman Reed's equal. Actually, it makes him worse, since he obviously could not come close to him without stealing. And even then, he hasn't invented the most difficult things by himself

Reed >>>> Batman.

Originally posted by Big Sexy


You've got doodoo in your soul! bawling *runs off crying like a girl*

Originally posted by batdude123
You've got doodoo in your soul! bawling *runs off crying like a girl* I have to admit, that analogy was hilarious.