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Johnny Storm Rising Storm, had the powers of Invisible Woman... but as a herald of galactus had it raised to incredible levels.

Who would win, The Herald of Galactus, or Superboy Prime.

Personally I think SBP is going to go down and Johnny takes this 7/10

johnny has his ass handed to him
when sbp punches it off - lol

I can't see even SBP punching through the force field. I mean guys like thing used to pound on Susans when she was IW... This is her powers elevated to cosmic levels by Galactus..

Superboy-Prime can break reality.

Who do you THINK wins?

He didn't destroy reality in that pic did he? He just broke through a force that contained him there. Its kinda like he was standing behind a door and rammed his way through it.

That 'door' was a dimensional barrier, which was 'impossible' to breach.

He broke reality.

its the phantom zone

Originally posted by Private Pion
Superboy-Prime can break reality.

Who do you THINK wins?



Breaking out from the Phantom Zone arrow = breaking reality???

Originally posted by illadelph12


Breaking out from the Phantom Zone arrow = breaking reality???

He didn't break out of no arrow-He broke a dimensional barrier, one which no other person ever has been able to.

Physically, its impossible to do it.

So, Superboy Prime- Thats right chuckles- Broke reality.

Originally posted by rotiart
I can't see even SBP punching through the force field. I mean guys like thing used to pound on Susans when she was IW... This is her powers elevated to cosmic levels by Galactus..

wow are you being for real cause sbp punched his way out of the Phantom Zone and the Speed Force so yes he could breack im's force feilds. but in any case unless im starts this fight in sheild mode their is no way to put it up fast enough to protect himself.

Originally posted by Sea King
wow are you being for real cause sbp punched his way out of the Phantom Zone and the Speed Force so yes he could breack im's force feilds. but in any case unless im starts this fight in sheild mode their is no way to put it up fast enough to protect himself.

why not? Wouldn't he have cosmic awareness, and whose to say how fast he was? for all we know he was as fast as the silver surfer, but he would could definetly take one punch from sbp then throw up a shield, this isn't just a normal person here.

Well far as I know.. Heralds of Galactus don't exactly go down in a punch. I mean I don't think that Johnny necessarily had his original human form once he became a herald. do you? Unless i misread those comics.

All right then, lets say for Arguements sake johnny starts with his shield on. since you guys are assuming sbp is gonna speed blitz, lets assume johnny starts with shields full on. Now what?

Superboy Prime = The Ultimate Copout

Originally posted by rotiart
Well far as I know.. Heralds of Galactus don't exactly go down in a punch. I mean I don't think that Johnny necessarily had his original human form once he became a herald. do you? Unless i misread those comics.

All right then, lets say for Arguements sake johnny starts with his shield on. since you guys are assuming sbp is gonna speed blitz, lets assume johnny starts with shields full on. Now what?

well sbp breaks it then rips im in half poor guy he should have stayed in bed

This version of Johnny is close to Silver Surfer levels

Still SBP >>> Silver Surfer

Hrm. Yah I guess. Johnny never really did know the full extent to what he could do. I was just imagining that while SBP was pounding on the Force field, Johnny could bathe sbp in red sunlight.

didn't he cut someone in half then merge him back together again? I donno, that seems pretty powerful, I think it would be cool, whose to say that sbp could even find him if he went invisible, then blast the hell out of him with cosmic blasts.

Originally posted by FujiFuu
didn't he cut someone in half then merge him back together again? I donno, that seems pretty powerful, I think it would be cool, whose to say that sbp could even find him if he went invisible, then blast the hell out of him with cosmic blasts.

Unless he's incased in lead, Supes is gonna see him. Besides, all Kryptonians have a wide array of different visions. X-ray, Infrared, Heat, "Soul Vision," blah blah blah. Trust me SBP would be able to see him.

Yeah. Agreed. In a recent Superman comic book, he gave Lois Lane his abilities for a day by giving her a potion/serum/drink. whatever. As her powers waned, she talked about all the spectrums she couldn't see anymore. Besides. Infrared would be all SBP would need. The displacement of heat around Johnny would be enough. If not X-Rays. Or hell. He could try sonar displacement like a bat.

Originally posted by rotiart
Yeah. Agreed. In a recent Superman comic book, he gave Lois Lane his abilities for a day by giving her a potion/serum/drink. whatever. As her powers waned, she talked about all the spectrums she couldn't see anymore. Besides. Infrared would be all SBP would need. The displacement of heat around Johnny would be enough. If not X-Rays. Or hell. He could try sonar displacement like a bat.

Seriously, he's got some crazy ass senses.

Originally posted by batdude123
Unless he's incased in lead, Supes is gonna see him. Besides, all Kryptonians have a wide array of different visions. X-ray, Infrared, Heat, "Soul Vision," blah blah blah. Trust me SBP would be able to see him.

Well actually, Adult Valeria has the ability to become completely invisible.

Meaning impossible to detect in anyway possible

Originally posted by Grimm22
Well actually, Adult Valeria has the ability to become completely invisible.

Meaning impossible to detect in anyway possible

Valeria would still be detected by Superman's "soul vision."

Valeria's a girl. They have no souls.. :P Thats why they can date 10 guys at a time and not care. hehe.

I can't remember IM getting his shield breached.

Originally posted by batdude123
Valeria would still be detected by Superman's "soul vision."

Nope

She cant even be detected by Doom in a world that Doom controls.

Trust me Supes cant find her

Originally posted by Grimm22
Nope

She cant even be detected by Doom in a world that Doom controls.

Trust me Supes cant find her

Can you prove that Valeria doesn't have a soul? Until you can, Supes can still detect her!!!!!

soul vision? man superman has the stupidest completely unrelated powers...

I think the soul vision is made up. We're just messing around at this point it seems. Imagine if Dr. Doom somehow ended up in the DC universe and crafted a body for himself out of Kryptonian DNA.

Originally posted by FujiFuu
soul vision? man superman has the stupidest completely unrelated powers...

Yep, because DC had nothing better to do Pre-IC

DC Guy 1: Hey lets give Superman Soul Vision

DC Guy 2: Why?!? What good can come out of that?!?

DC Guy 1: I donno, but we cant think of anything else

Originally posted by rotiart
I think the soul vision is made up. We're just messing around at this point it seems. Imagine if Dr. Doom somehow ended up in the DC universe and crafted a body for himself out of Kryptonian DNA.

I'm not joking. He really does have soul vision.

Originally posted by rotiart
I think the soul vision is made up. We're just messing around at this point it seems. Imagine if Dr. Doom somehow ended up in the DC universe and crafted a body for himself out of Kryptonian DNA.


Doom + Superman's Powers = The Death of the DC Universe

Originally posted by Grimm22
Yep, because DC had nothing better to do Pre-IC

DC Guy 1: Hey lets give Superman Soul Vision

DC Guy 2: Why?!? What good can come out of that?!?

DC Guy 1: I donno, but we cant think of anything else

Marvel Guy 1: Let's make Thing look like a retarded pile of poop

Marvel Guy 2: Fine by me!

Originally posted by Grimm22
Doom + Superman's Powers = The Death of the DC Universe

Superman rarely shows it, but he is one of the absolute smartest people on the planet without a doubt.

Originally posted by batdude123
Marvel Guy 1: Let's make Thing look like a retarded pile of poop

Marvel Guy 2: Fine by me!



Wha?

Seriously wha?!?

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman rarely shows it, but he is one of the absolute smartest people on the planet without a doubt.

Yeah, but nowhere as smart as Doom

Originally posted by Grimm22
Yeah, but nowhere as smart as Doom

Take a look at some of the Pre-Crisis comics of Superman. He was easily on Doom's level of intelligence. Seriously, it was rediculous.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wha?

Seriously wha?!?
A big pile of rocky sh*t.

Originally posted by batdude123
A big pile of rocky sh*t.

Well that big pile of rocky sh*t crushes Batman's head in

Originally posted by Grimm22
Well that big pile of rocky sh*t crushes Batman's head in

*coughMOTHERBOXcough*

Originally posted by batdude123
*coughMOTHERBOXcough*

*Cough*

umm...

Father Cube

*cough*

Originally posted by batdude123
Marvel Guy 1: Let's make Thing look like a retarded pile of poop

Marvel Guy 2: Fine by me!

Sorry Grimm but this cracked me up... besides it's kinda true

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sorry Grimm but this cracked me up... besides it's kinda true

How dare you insult Jack "Da King" Kirby!