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If Connery was in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, do you think the movie would of been better?

I have a deep, dark secret...I actually liked OHMSS

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
I have a deep, dark secret...I actually liked OHMSS

WHAT!!!

No, the storyline was just completely shit. Bond getting married, come on.
But I hated the actor they casted as Bond too...

If Connery was in On Her Majesty's Secret Service it would have been the best bond movie.

Err no it wouldnt.Like Eis said,the storyline was complete shit.Not even Connery could have saved that movie from being crap.However IF Connery had done it,the fans would have been able to feel sorry for Bond at the end when his wife got gunned down and killed,heck I think if Moore had done that film they would have, but they couldnt because Lazenbys acting was so horrible in that movie.Thats why he only lasted one film and was not offered another one after that.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Thats why he only lasted one film and was not offered another one after that. Actually he was offered a seven movie contract....So, you're wrong.

Wow those movie studio people sure had their heads up their asses to do something idiotic like that.Thank god that he never wound up doing those 7 movies.

I liked the script of on her majesty secret service, but i think that this movie failed mainly because the terrible acting by george lazenby. With connery, surely it could be much better.

Bond getting married is kinda lame though.

But i think that it if give some new and fresh style to the series. Its a little boring 20 movies of james bond being the playboy with hundred of different women. I think that in at least one movie, they tried to change a little the same story that we have seen in the another 19 movies( but it was innovative to a certain point, at the end, bond was free again).

Fair enough.

Originally posted by bakerboy
I liked the script of on her majesty secret service, but i think that this movie failed mainly because the terrible acting by george lazenby. With connery, surely it could be much better.

Naw only a tiny bit better Bakerboy.The script was so atrocious that not even Connery cold have saved this crapfest movie.

I desagree here with you, mr parker. I think that the script of that movie was very innovative and original, and very interesting. But the choice of George Lazenby as Bond destroyed the scritpt and the movie, because he was so bad and his Bond was so Uncharismatic and pathetic that the people wasnt releated to that bond, and his story and his relatioships witht the characters was boring and unteresting for the audience, so, the story and the movie suffers too much because that thing.

But the only thing that was innovative, original and interesting about it was that it was different in that he was getting married.the story itself is a snoozefest and boring.

Not only the marriage. The female character played by Diann rigg was complex and strong, different from another bond girls before this movie. The rest wasnt so innovative, right.

There. NOW you got it. right.

Yes, i got it long time before.

But you have to admit something, it was at least innovative in a certain way. The bonds that i think that are innovative in some ways are the next ones:

Live and let die( bond vs the voodo)

moonraker( bond in the space)

on her majesty secret service( bond married and the stronger female character in the series, diana rigg)

Casino royale( bond before being the bond that we all know)

If Connery was in it, it would be better, but it would still suck hard. The movie has one or two good points in it, but that's about it.

No matter what though, the absolute worst part of that film is that repetitive X-Mas song that they play. Good lord that freakin thing is annoying!!

Originally posted by Eis
No, the storyline was just completely shit. Bond getting married, come on.


It was shit because bond getting married but yet it happens in the novel

work that one out

Originally posted by NoFate007
If Connery was in it, it would be better, but it would still suck hard. The movie has one or two good points in it, but that's about it.

No matter what though, the absolute worst part of that film is that repetitive X-Mas song that they play. Good lord that freakin thing is annoying!!

Yeah it would at least have been touching at the end when they gunned down his wife if Connery had taken on the role.Without Connery you really could not find the scene touching at all which was a shame.Yeah it would indeed suck hard still even with him.Him being married had nothing to do with the movie being so horrible,it is easliy the most horribly written Bond movie of them all and not even Connery could have saved it.

and yeah bakerboy I will admit it was innovative in a certain way,but that didnt save it from being and extrmely horribly written and boring film though.

Originally posted by Eis
No, the storyline was just completely shit. Bond getting married, come on.


(Just quoting this one again Since i can't edit it)

That whole thing with Bond getting married is in the book of "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" so if they are trying to do a perfect translation it would be in the film so really its not shit

I didn't mind OHMSS, it was a nice twist to the usual Bond story, and the storyline at least fit into what had been previously established and was still ongoing, almost serialized...

Connery may have brought a whole different vibe to the role, as he did when he was brought back for Diamonds are Forever, but Lazenby did OK for what he had to work with.

Hard for him to come in after Connery's 5 successful flicks, and to pick up the strings of storyline that run thru those first 6 or 7 films, not easy when we're used to seeing Connery up there, but the groundwork that was laid in the earlier films still flows thru OHMSS;

Bond is asked/forced to resign because of his apparent obsession with toppling SPECTRE and bringing Ernst Stavros Blofeld down, and Bond won't focus on the new mission M offers. On leave, he gets hooked up with the mafia dude, because the mafia dude has connections to Blofeld; Bond is again asked/forced to do the bidding of the mafia dude to get the information on Blofeld, but in this case, since his task is to woo the daughter of the mafia boss, Bond shrugs and begrudgingly agrees. He's Bond, James Bond, wooing babes is what he does when he's not tracking Blofeld or cracking SPECTRE! In this case, he gets to woo the babe in the process of tracking Blofeld and bringing SPECTRE down! it's still win-win, just like the past Bond bombshells!!

Only now, Bond is rogue, doesn't have to answer to HMSS, but still in his heart, he's OHMSS. Ya, Lazenby kinda sucked bringing the level of depth and character and internal struggle Bond should have been facing, but the story was there, strong/weak as the previous chapters.

there are things to love/hate about each Bond film really... the trouble with Dr No's hands?? why?? WTF?? the cassette tape that rules the world in Diamonds are Forever? the ninjas and Bond becoming Japanese in You Only Live Twice?? the mystery of Stromberg's exploding lair and why Agent XXX didn't kill Bond for killing her lover, in Spy Who Loved Me??

but, there is also a nice progression of storyline there, thru the SPECTRE story, and the Cold War tie-in, and the space-race and all that stuff... OHMSS even actually introduced us to the original Fembots (not robots, but mind-controlled babes with lethal perfume atomizers!!) which was a pretty good twist, having the unwitting army of unsuspected housewives be Blofeld's playthings, just as so many women had been playthings for Bond over the years; a nice twist!


seems things took a turn into fantastical and nonsensical once Blofeld died (for like the 4th time, I think) in Live and Let Die, once Bond started having dealings with Sheriff DR Pepper from N'Orleans, then met him again, completely at random, in... India or where ever that was in Man with the Golden Gun, I think...

and, of course, once SPECTRE was dealt with, that opened the door for the story to go anywhere and everywhere, even including a Bond-in-Space in Moonraker which was forced upon the public during the days of Star Wars... after Spy Who Loved Me, when fans were eagerly awaiting For Your Eyes Only!

I think OHMSS tried something different, in a way tried to go back to the beginning, as it was less hi-tech, more character-driven like Dr No, just that we were getting used to the gadgets and such, and used to Connery too, and Lazenby came off a bit dry, dull and flat behind the weaker low-tech story...

maybe better with Connery, but then again, Connery came back once more after his return for Diamonds are Forever (and Diamonds did have that lame-cassette tape that rules the world scenario!!)... does anyone remember Never Say Never Again?? you should remember it, since you saw it the first time they filmed Connery as Bond using that script, but they called it Thunderball...

think Lazenby would have found his place, if he had wanted to do the next 5 or 6 Bond films. And, when I watched them in order OHMSS really didn't seem so god awful bad, Bond getting married and all!!!

far better than the go-go-gadgets, special effects, non-stop stunt-fests that Brosnan-Bonds had become!

haven't seen Casino Royale yet (either version) so don't know where it all began, or how it all turned out, but Lazenby and OHMSS 'fits' for me! Of course, nobody does it better than Connery, except that was the song from Moore's installment, Spy Who Loved Me, so... oh well!