The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas

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ephraim

Alliance
Both Isreal and Palestine are f*ckups. Personally Isreal is pissing me off more today.

By the way has anyone seen my other SOCK? I seem to have lost it and this one's all alone sad

maham

Alliance
Don't even bother...anyone who thinks Islam is more evil than any other religion is delusional and imo stupid.

maham
Originally posted by Alliance
Don't even bother...anyone who thinks Islam is more evil than any other religion is delusional and imo stupid.

Shakyamunison
They have been saying that Jesus is coming soon for 2000 years now. You will never see it in your life time.

Quiero Mota
No. I think the only thing that would turn an atheist into a believer, would be if God materilized before them, said "I am God", made their favorite dish appear in front of them, and started playing their favorite song.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No. I think the only thing that would turn an atheist into a believer, would be if God materilized before them, said "I am God", made their favorite dish appear in front of them, and started playing their favorite song. Agreed, so what's up with that dick not doing that to save all the people he "loves" so much?

debbiejo
The Seventh Day Adventist church believes the mark of the beast are Sunday church goers, not keeping the Sabbath. Many other protestants believe it is an actual mark or tattoo on you. Others believe it's a system you are involved in. At one time the Catholics in the middle ages believed it was the Protestants, being that they were the whore mentioned in Revelations. The Catholics come back was "If we're the whore, what does that make you?"

Boris
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No. I think the only thing that would turn an atheist into a believer, would be if God materilized before them, said "I am God", made their favorite dish appear in front of them, and started playing their favorite song.

Holy shit, God with pizza and Tool.

Yes, then I shall believe! Praise the LORD! thumb up

Quiero Mota
Originally posted by Boris
Holy shit, God with pizza and Tool.

Yes, then I shall believe! Praise the LORD! thumb up

laughing out loud In my case, It'd be cheese enchiladas with a tall cold Dos Equis and Tupac.

Jim Reaper
Originally posted by ephraim



In summary, Jesus is Lord and he is coming soon.



Well... He has a lot of explaining to do.

leonheartmm
LMFAO!!!!!!!! thats a good one. DUDE, christianity is just as extreme as islam albeit more damaging to the world right now. islam has as many moderate followers as christianity. and if ANY1 is the antichrist right now it is ahed olmert and the israeli government/military. NOT the poor occupied/locked up in in their own home or regions/oppressed/slaughtered palestinians. mahmoud abbas, are you freaking KIDDIN me. olmert and the israeli government is FAR worse than he can ever hope to be in his naughty dreams.

ephraim
For all those who like less detailed explanations.

Explanation 666

On June 16, 2006 a program was enacted that allowed money to flow
through one man, Mahmoud Abbas, in order to pay the salaries of his people.
He empowered his people (Fatah) to buy and sell simply because he was
allowed to receive and disperse funds. Hamas was prevented from
receiving aid from Abbas. This fulfills Revelation 13.
Hamas boycotted the Election of Mahmoud Abbas, therefore they did
not receive the mark. Only Fatah got the mark, and only Fatah is
receiving money from Abbas. Therefore, Hamas cannot buy and sell
because they did not receive the mark. Here is another way to view it.
By not receiving salaries they were prevented from buying and selling.

So here is the interpretation that I am describing. No man can buy and
sell unless he has the mark, the number of his name, or his name.
The men being referred to are the Palestinians, not the whole world.
The funds in question are Western donations. Money which used to go
to the PA but stopped after Hamas took over the Government.
The Mark was an indelible ink mark applied to the right hand during the
Palestinian Presidential Election. Make any sense? Ephraim

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by ephraim
For all those who like less detailed explanations.

Explanation 666

On June 16, 2006 a program was enacted that allowed money to flow
through one man, Mahmoud Abbas, in order to pay the salaries of his people.
He empowered his people (Fatah) to buy and sell simply because he was
allowed to receive and disperse funds. Hamas was prevented from
receiving aid from Abbas. This fulfills Revelation 13.
Hamas boycotted the Election of Mahmoud Abbas, therefore they did
not receive the mark. Only Fatah got the mark, and only Fatah is
receiving money from Abbas. Therefore, Hamas cannot buy and sell
because they did not receive the mark. Here is another way to view it.
By not receiving salaries they were prevented from buying and selling.

So here is the interpretation that I am describing. No man can buy and
sell unless he has the mark, the number of his name, or his name.
The men being referred to are the Palestinians, not the whole world.
The funds in question are Western donations. Money which used to go
to the PA but stopped after Hamas took over the Government.
The Mark was an indelible ink mark applied to the right hand during the
Palestinian Presidential Election. Make any sense? Ephraim

Revelations is a anti-Roman propaganda book and has nothing to do with the future. The "mark of the beast" is 666, which is a code word of Nero.

debbiejo
But we all can buy and sell. Are you complicating the Euro? Cause the Euro is what many churches teach as the one world money system. Just wondering.

AngryManatee
Isn't there already a Mark of the Beast thread?

AngryManatee
Originally posted by AngryManatee
Isn't there already a Mark of the Beast thread?

Computer says: 1

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=452068&highlight=the+mark+of+the+beast

ephraim
Originally posted by debbiejo
But we all can buy and sell. Are you complicating the Euro? Cause the Euro is what many churches teach as the one world money system. Just wondering.

Only after these questions are answered can it be known what is meant by 666.
It is impossible to tell what allows the people to buy an sell unless you know the
following things.

1. Which people are being discussed?
2. Why is there a need for money, or what caused them to
have a lack of funds?
3. When the first two questions are answered then the most
important can be asked. Who is the individual that will cause
the people to receive those needed funds?
4. Also, who are those being prevented from obtaining funds
because they have not received the Mark?

The Temporary International Mechanism was established on
June 16, 2006. This allowed aid to reach Palestinians while
bypassing the Hamas led Government. Ephraim

anaconda
The second coming of the Holy Ghost
We need a pocketful of miracles
Two thousand years and he ain't shown yet
We kept his seat warm and the table set
The second sitting for the Last Supper Happy Dance

DigiMark007
Originally posted by ephraim
Only after these questions are answered can it be known what is meant by 666.
It is impossible to tell what allows the people to buy an sell unless you know the
following things.

1. Which people are being discussed?
2. Why is there a need for money, or what caused them to
have a lack of funds?
3. When the first two questions are answered then the most
important can be asked. Who is the individual that will cause
the people to receive those needed funds?
4. Also, who are those being prevented from obtaining funds
because they have not received the Mark?

The Temporary International Mechanism was established on
June 16, 2006. This allowed aid to reach Palestinians while
bypassing the Hamas led Government. Ephraim

Wait, what?! When did Satan start dealing in economics? Back to bloody goats and babies being slaughtered! Back, I say!

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by ephraim
Only after these questions are answered can it be known what is meant by 666.
It is impossible to tell what allows the people to buy an sell unless you know the
following things.

1. Which people are being discussed?
2. Why is there a need for money, or what caused them to
have a lack of funds?
3. When the first two questions are answered then the most
important can be asked. Who is the individual that will cause
the people to receive those needed funds?
4. Also, who are those being prevented from obtaining funds
because they have not received the Mark?

The Temporary International Mechanism was established on
June 16, 2006. This allowed aid to reach Palestinians while
bypassing the Hamas led Government. Ephraim

Before you can address those questions, you have to answer one very important question: why believe the bible?

ephraim
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Before you can address those questions, you have to answer one very important question: why believe the bible?

Because everyone dies. Everyone.
It is the age old question. Why am I here and what is my purpose?
Have I evolved from an ape or did a God create me? Where will I
go when I die? I might live my life much differently if I believed there
was no God and nothing was waiting for me on the other side. It is
through the things that are here presently like the Earth and the Stars
that make it obvious that God created them. So for these and many
other reasons, I investigate why. I could not be like some and remain
apathetic, there is too much at stake. The first thing in investigating
why will always make you look for the creator; to search him out and
discover his purpose. This is why I read the Bible. It is the only logical
answer to all of these questions. Eventually, the parables will start
making sense. The whole Bible is a riddle. If God wanted us to know
everything he would have written it like a novel, but instead it is a
mystery that can only be figured out with time and patience.
The Bible is like a news item that hasn't happened yet. When it does
happen then and only then can the answer be seen. Christianity tells
the future. No other religion can begin to answer these questions.
That is why I believe the Bible. Ephraim

leonheartmm
Originally posted by ephraim
Because everyone dies. Everyone.
It is the age old question. Why am I here and what is my purpose?
Have I evolved from an ape or did a God create me? Where will I
go when I die? I might live my life much differently if I believed there
was no God and nothing was waiting for me on the other side. It is
through the things that are here presently like the Earth and the Stars
that make it obvious that God created them. So for these and many
other reasons, I investigate why. I could not be like some and remain
apathetic, there is too much at stake. The first thing in investigating
why will always make you look for the creator; to search him out and
discover his purpose. This is why I read the Bible. It is the only logical
answer to all of these questions. Eventually, the parables will start
making sense. The whole Bible is a riddle. If God wanted us to know
everything he would have written it like a novel, but instead it is a
mystery that can only be figured out with time and patience.
The Bible is like a news item that hasn't happened yet. When it does
happen then and only then can the answer be seen. Christianity tells
the future. No other religion can begin to answer these questions.
That is why I believe the Bible. Ephraim

take a deep breath. go back, and read what you have written. isnt it more likely that you are merely thinking too much and trying to find generalised causes for things. and christianity gives conveient explanations for things? nuthing is happening, the sky isnt falling. and perhaps its paranioa like this on the part of others which makes their lives full of anxiety, guilt etc. and also leads them to do harsh things to others based on their paranioa. you need to calm down.

and mahmoud abbas isnt the devil, that gratious label is better suited for bush, or olmert or sharone.

ephraim
Originally posted by leonheartmm
take a deep breath. go back, and read what you have written. isnt it more likely that you are merely thinking too much and trying to find generalised causes for things. and christianity gives conveient explanations for things? nuthing is happening, the sky isnt falling. and perhaps its paranioa like this on the part of others which makes their lives full of anxiety, guilt etc. and also leads them to do harsh things to others based on their paranioa. you need to calm down.

and mahmoud abbas isnt the devil, that gratious label is better suited for bush, or olmert or sharone.

This was a response to Shakyamunison.
Your opinion was noted in an earlier post.
Thank you for the first post. Ephraim

DigiMark007
Originally posted by ephraim
This was a response to Shakyamunison.
Your opinion was noted in an earlier post.
Thank you for the first post. Ephraim

Condescension doesn't suit you.

...

Also, there's already scientific explanations for the universe. You don't need to turn to the Bible to answer it (which it doesn't, and is anything but logical). Just open your eyes and stop hiding behind the Fundamentalist banner.

Because right now you're probably 1-2 Jesus-stained threads away from being tuned out by the entire forum (most of whom know better) and just used as a forum amusement. Like JIA and his ilk.

ephraim
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Condescension doesn't suit you.

...

Also, there's already scientific explanations for the universe. You don't need to turn to the Bible to answer it (which it doesn't, and is anything but logical). Just open your eyes and stop hiding behind the Fundamentalist banner.

Because right now you're probably 1-2 Jesus-stained threads away from being tuned out by the entire forum (most of whom know better) and just used as a forum amusement. Like JIA and his ilk.

Neither do threats suit you. If you don't want to hear what I have to
say, do not read my posts. I do not care what you believe. I am just
stating interpretations that come from a lifetime of study. I do not
expect everyone to agree with me, but your plea to censor me
makes you look silly. Ephraim

DigiMark007
Originally posted by ephraim
Neither do threats suit you. If you don't want to hear what I have to
say, do not read my posts. I do not care what you believe. I am just
stating interpretations that come from a lifetime of study. I do not
expect everyone to agree with me, but your plea to censor me
makes you look silly. Ephraim

Threats? Who threatened you? You just treated leonheart (and now me) like crap and I pointed it out. It's a public forum where anyone can express their opinions and beliefs. I did read your posts, and if you want others to start taking you seriously you'll need to stop acting like a jerk, and start engaging people in discussion rather than having a one-way conversation with yourself where you do nothing but spout Biblical interpretations.

Storm
In May 2005 it was reported that scholars at Oxford University using advanced imaging techniques had been able to read previously illegible portions of an early (third century) version of the Book of Revelation, part of its Oxyrhynchus collection of papyri. The fragment gives the Number of the Beast as 616.

anaconda
a frame: if at least you had any interesting things to say

it doesnt and never had, at its dawn chrisitianity never took toll for the advanced progress man was able to do through the centuries. The bible like the qur'an is out of date. They are stuck back to the time they were written. And for that period of time they looked subtle, now though nothing more like just another fairytale mythology, just as naive as Roman, Greek, and Norse mythology

anaconda
yeah 666 the number of talents King Solomon received

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Storm
In May 2005 it was reported that scholars at Oxford University using advanced imaging techniques had been able to read previously illegible portions of an early (third century) version of the Book of Revelation, part of its Oxyrhynchus collection of papyri. The fragment gives the Number of the Beast as 616.

I remember that. It got brought up in the comic forum because the mainstream Marvel Universe is universe #616. It was like "OmgZ!! Satan!"

embarrasment

ephraim
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Threats? Who threatened you? You just treated leonheart (and now me) like crap and I pointed it out. It's a public forum where anyone can express their opinions and beliefs. I did read your posts, and if you want others to start taking you seriously you'll need to stop acting like a jerk, and start engaging people in discussion rather than having a one-way conversation with yourself where you do nothing but spout Biblical interpretations.

To make a statement that the whole forum will tune me out because I
talk about Jesus is a threat. I do not care what you believe. I am stating
facts that can be used to ask questions and get answers to. If you don't
agree with the premise in the first place there is no need to keep telling
me. It makes no sense. I respect your opinion, although I totally
disagree. What more do you want from me?

Remember, this whole series started with an answer to Shakyamunison.
A question to me, which I answered that started all this ridicule.
I know what you want and what your used to. Anyone who mentions
Jesus is spit on. What do you expect me to say? Ephraim

DigiMark007
Nah, saying that they'll tune you out is an opinion based on prior experience in the forum. A threat implies harm or ill-intent. I don't let KMC-stuff upset me, so neither of those are anywhere near true.

And people who mention Jesus aren't spit on. People who act like they control their threads, who insult others whenever you "didn't ask for their input" (leonheart, myself, probably others). So it's not that you're mentioning Christianity that's the problem, but that you're just telling us what you believe in long diatribes without actually engaging people in discussion.

ephraim
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Nah, saying that they'll tune you out is an opinion based on prior experience in the forum. A threat implies harm or ill-intent. I don't let KMC-stuff upset me, so neither of those are anywhere near true.

And people who mention Jesus aren't spit on. People who act like they control their threads, who insult others whenever you "didn't ask for their input" (leonheart, myself, probably others). So it's not that you're mentioning Christianity that's the problem, but that you're just telling us what you believe in long diatribes without actually engaging people in discussion.

Well I guess you expect me to read your mind when you say they will
tune me out if I mention Jesus. Your past experience is not a part of my
thought process. As for controlling my thread that is exactly what you
are doing. I have heard your opinion. Thank You, I respect your opinion.
There are others here I would like to hear from also. This group is just
not the property of two individuals. If you have a question that doesn't
feel like mockery, I might answer you. Ephraim

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by ephraim
Because everyone dies. Everyone.
It is the age old question. Why am I here and what is my purpose?
Have I evolved from an ape or did a God create me? Where will I
go when I die? I might live my life much differently if I believed there
was no God and nothing was waiting for me on the other side. It is
through the things that are here presently like the Earth and the Stars
that make it obvious that God created them. So for these and many
other reasons, I investigate why. I could not be like some and remain
apathetic, there is too much at stake. The first thing in investigating
why will always make you look for the creator; to search him out and
discover his purpose. This is why I read the Bible. It is the only logical
answer to all of these questions. Eventually, the parables will start
making sense. The whole Bible is a riddle. If God wanted us to know
everything he would have written it like a novel, but instead it is a
mystery that can only be figured out with time and patience.
The Bible is like a news item that hasn't happened yet. When it does
happen then and only then can the answer be seen. Christianity tells
the future. No other religion can begin to answer these questions.
That is why I believe the Bible. Ephraim

Thank you for answering my question.

There are older and more pure holy books then the bible. That bible has been changed and correpted. I suggest you read the Lotus Sutra and tell me what you think.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0231081618/ref=pd_sl_aw_alx-jeb-7-1_book_2506818_2

Melcórë
In the end, it is all a matter of interpretation/opinion, though, is it not? One sees what they wish to see, no matter what others believe, or purport to be the truth....

debbiejo
Some Protestant Bible commentators have equated the "beast" of Revelation chapter 13 with the Papacy. To this end, the letters of a title of the Pope, accepted as authentic from 8th - 16th century, Vicarius Filii Dei, are summed to total 666 in Roman numerals.

Melcórë
I doubt we'll ever truly know what (or whom) "John" meant to signify with 616/666. At least, I certainly hope we never do.

debbiejo
That book was taken out of the Cannon so many times and it should of stayed out. All it has done is caused confusion perpetuated postulation.

Melcórë
I agree. I find that it can also be very, very frightening. sad

Zeal Ex Nihilo

debbiejo
http://egomania.nu/gates.html

The real mark of the beast.


OMG.. eek!


lol

Grand_Moff_Gav
Originally posted by Bardock42
Agreed, so what's up with that dick not doing that to save all the people he "loves" so much?

Why don't you learn some responsibility you slob!

Wanting everything done for you. mad

ephraim
Why is Mahmoud Abbas the Beast of Revelation 13?

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the
meaning of Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed.
If the wrong people are associated with the prophecies of Revelation
13 its answer can never be found. The people being referred to in
Revelation 13 are the Palestinians. Once this is decided three questions
have to be answered; why, how and who.

Why do the Palestinian people lack the ability to buy and sell?
Due to the Hamas takeover of the Palestinian Government,
Western Aid was discontinued.

How will the Palestinian people receive funds in order to buy and sell?
Through a program called the Temporary International Mechanism
that bypasses the Hamas controlled Palestinian Authority. This program
was established on Friday June 16, 2006. This date 6/16/06 represents
the day that one man was allowed to administer a program that paid the
salaries of his people. This is an amazing coincidence. There are only
three days in ten years that end with three sixes; June 6, June 16, and
June 26.

Who will provide these salaries to the Palestinians?
Salaries will be paid through the office of Mahmoud Abbas.

Also, what group will be prevented from getting money because they did
not receive the mark?

Hamas boycotted the Election of Mahmoud Abbas in January 2005;
therefore they did not receive the indelible ink mark to their right hands.
All salaries are being given to Fatah, the party of Mahmoud Abbas.
Hamas will not honor the image of Mahmoud Abbas. The image of
Mahmoud Abbas is required by the international community to continue
peace talks with Israel. This image is three items that represent Abbas
and his Government; the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements
with Israel, the renunciation of terror as a means to an end, and a two-
state solution based on the 1967 borders prior to the six-day war.


Three items point to the Beast of Revelation 13: his mark, his number
and his name. WOEphraim

Grand_Moff_Gav
Originally posted by Bardock42
Agreed, so what's up with that dick not doing that to save all the people he "loves" so much?

Because they're backing Ron Paul!

Bicnarok
Read this somewhere dunno if there is any truth in it.

:-"The "beast " is the mega computer which controls the internet, and everything connected to it. Thats why WWW is the number of the beast 666 equivalent to old Hebrew letter sound for "W""-:

Templares
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Read this somewhere dunno if there is any truth in it.

:-"The "beast " is the mega computer which controls the internet, and everything connected to it. Thats why WWW is the number of the beast 666 equivalent to old Hebrew letter sound for "W""-:

http://www.anaitgames.com/wp-content/darth_vader_nooo1.jpeg

Quark_666
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Read this somewhere dunno if there is any truth in it.

:-"The "beast " is the mega computer which controls the internet, and everything connected to it. Thats why WWW is the number of the beast 666 equivalent to old Hebrew letter sound for "W""-:

It's true. Every word of it. Saw it with my own eyes as I walked out of the psychiatrist's.

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