Sinister six (original) VS New Mutants II

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Scarlet_Spidey
I know those images are amateuristic, cause i made them myself, but hey ...

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5562/sinistersix9xq.png

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Draco69
The Sinister Six in a curbstomp.

Elixir better hope he can bring people back to life from ashes...

Apolloknight
Sinister six not playing around and well written to their full potential would handle them with ease. Along with a bunch of other teams.

Metalmanx
I dunno really. Surge alone can cause plenty of damage to the Sinister Six. Alone, she could take out Doc Ock, Kraven, Mysterio, and Vulture in the first second.

And then Prodigy could imitate either the powers of Sandman or Electro, which would greatly increase the New Mutants' odds.

Wallflower could make the SS piss their pants with fear.

And Wind Dancer is actually pretty useful, too. She could really mess them up with some powerful winds.

I dunno. I'm going with the New Mutants, but just barely. Like 6/10.

Scarlet_Spidey
Prodigy can only take over knowledge and skills but not powers.

And everyone must remember that the strongest probably is Kraven, since he's stronger than Spidey himself.

Scarlet_Spidey
For all to be clear, here is a list of powers :


The New Mutants II :

* Prodigy , the team's co-leader, who can utilize the skills and knowledge (but not powers) of those near him.
* Wind Dancer , the other co-leader, who can create winds, fly via said winds, and eavesdrop over distances by conducting air vibrations.
* Wallflower , a shy girl, who generates pheromones that usually cause people near her to match her moods, although she is learning to control this.
* Elixir , who can heal himself and others.
* Surge , who absorbs electricity which she can release as blasts, or use for super-speed, but requires mechanical gauntlets to prevent overcharge.
* Icarus, who flies on red, angel-like wings, heals rapidly, and possesses a very beautiful singing voice.


The Sinister Six :

* Vulture can lift up to 700 pounds and has a very good armour. He can also fly up to 95 miles an hour. He is also extremely good at electronics and programming.
* Doctor Octopus has adamantium arms who can't be destroyed and are very powerful, and he is very smart as well.
* Electro can absorb electricity and fire it at enemies at will. He can also charge himself.
* Kraven has agility, reflexes, stamina, and endurance that are enhanced plus he is superstrong and superfast.
* Sandman can gather sand to make any shape and bash it to his enemies.
* Mysterio is the smartest foe and well gifted with electronics and holografic designs. He also has developed some very strong robots and is a master of illusion. He can also fight, but has no superhuman strenght.

lilnutta12
elixir is a bloody OMEGA LEVEL MUTANT he could take down sinister six with these other guys

Draco69
Originally posted by lilnutta12
elixir is a bloody OMEGA LEVEL MUTANT he could take down sinister six with these other guys

..........

All he can do is HEAL people.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Doc Ock
The Sinister Six all the way

Scarlet_Spidey
He can also fight. And healing the others is a great gift, making them unbeatable if he keeps heeling them and the others can protect them.

grey fox
Originally posted by lilnutta12
elixir is a bloody OMEGA LEVEL MUTANT he could take down sinister six with these other guys Originally posted by Draco69
..........

All he can do is HEAL people.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

.......pwned.

Draco69
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
He can also fight. And healing the others is a great gift, making them unbeatable if he keeps heeling them and the others can protect them.

Against these foes, he has a choice of fighting or healing. Since the SS will be slaughtering them, he will focus on healing. However he has his limits as displayed in Astonishing X-Men AND Doctor Octopus being the evil genius he is will focus the team on Exilir since he's the backbone of the team.

Scarlet_Spidey
Who's Exilir ?

Ok, this is the line-up :

Vulture VS Wind Dancer - She can create winds to blow his bottoms away !
Electro VS Surge - She absorbs Electro's electricity and uses it against him.
Mysterio VS Prodigy - He can take over his knowledge and use it against him ae. disabling his robots.
Dock Ock VS Wallflower - She can manipulate his feelings, thus disabling his control over his mechanical arms and taking him out.
Sandman VS Icarus : For now, Icarus can only keep Sandman bizzy.
Kraven VS Surge : Electrified.

Draco69
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
Who's Exilir ?

Ok, this is the line-up :

Vulture VS Wind Dancer - She can create winds to blow his bottoms away !
Electro VS Surge - She absorbs Electro's electricity and uses it against him.
Mysterio VS Prodigy - He can take over his knowledge and use it against him ae. disabling his robots.
Dock Ock VS Wallflower - She can manipulate his feelings, thus disabling his control over his mechanical arms and taking him out.
Sandman VS Icarus : For now, Icarus can only keep Sandman bizzy.
Kraven VS Surge : Electrified.

Um. No.

Here's a better scenario: Sandman creates a 150 feet tall tidal wave of sand and drowns the muties.

Or Sandman (with the unexpected aid of Wallflower) turns into sandstorm therefore blinding, suffocating and tearing apart the muties limb from limb.

Electro is FAR better than Surge at electricity manipulation. He has far more experience and he's far more powerful. HE sucks HER electricity and b*tchslaps her. Than he proceeds to fry the other brats.

Doctor Ock slams his 80 mph per sec mechanical arms through who ever crosses him.

So many painful death scenarios for the muties.... rolling on floor laughing

Scarlet_Spidey
Well you can definitly guess on which side you're on...

Soleran
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
Well you can definitly guess on which side you're on...


Who needs to guess, its pretty clear.

Draco69
Draco Malfoy: You chose the losing side!

laughing out loud

I LIKE the New Mutants. But they're horribly outmatched. If you removed Doc Ock, Electro and Sandman than you would have a fight.

Scarlet_Spidey
You are forgetting that the tentacles of Ockie are controlled by his mind and feelings, so if Wallflower manipulates his feelings so that he hates the sinister six and attacks them, what will you do then ?

Draco69
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
You are forgetting that the tentacles of Ockie are controlled by his mind and feelings, so if Wallflower manipulates his feelings so that he hates the sinister six and attacks them, what will you do then ?

The tectacles are independent if Doc Ock is KOed or Doc Ock is manipulated beyond mission parameters.

And the mission parameters today is kill the muties.

Doc Ock also carries many gadgets for protection against various obstacles. He DOES run into telepaths every now and then....

Wallflower won't make a difference. She'll get fried, suffocated or have her head lopped off by near speed of sound tectancle before she can even react....

Scarlet_Spidey
No SHE won't ! You are clearly underestimating the new mutants and you do not even want to admit it.

Draco69
?????

Oooooookay. Huh. A New Mutants fanboy. That's a new one. Last eccentric fanboy we got as a Blob fanboy...

sick

If you can come up with a remotely viable way the New Mutants can win without some really bad writing or plot device....

Metalmanx
Originally posted by Draco69
Electro is FAR better than Surge at electricity manipulation. He has far more experience and he's far more powerful. HE sucks HER electricity and b*tchslaps her. Than he proceeds to fry the other brats.


I don't think he'll get the chance to after she's speed-blitzed him and snapped his neck.

Blade Cutter
What the F@CK are they going to do to beat Sandman?They would have a chance against him if he was by him self.But they will have to deal with five other powerful villains and Sandman can kill them all wile they are busy with the other.

Scarlet_Spidey
Wind Dancer can blow so hard that his body divides in so many little pieces of sand very far away it will take forever to be that strong again.

Draco69
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
Wind Dancer can blow so hard that his body divides in so many little pieces of sand very far away it will take forever to be that strong again.

Storm tried blowing him away with a hurricane.

Guess what? It didn't work.

If Wind Dancer did THAT, she would create a sandstorm. Sandstorms are bad. Especially when the sandstorm is Sandman....

Scoobless
You're continually telling people they don't know what they're talking about with regards to the new mutants ... after posting this:

Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
The Sinister Six :

* Vulture can lift up to 700 pounds and has a very good armour. He can also fly up to 95 miles an hour. He is also extremely good at electronics and programming.
* Doctor Octopus has adamantium arms who can't be destroyed and are very powerful, and he is very smart as well.
* Electro can absorb electricity and fire it at enemies at will. He can also charge himself.
* Kraven has agility, reflexes, stamina, and endurance that are enhanced plus he is superstrong and superfast.
* Sandman can gather sand to make any shape and bash it to his enemies.
* Mysterio is the smartest foe and well gifted with electronics and holografic designs. He also has developed some very strong robots and is a master of illusion. He can also fight, but has no superhuman strenght.

Doc Ock does not have adamantium arms, he had them for one story years ago then he lost them

Mysterio is not the "smartest foe"... in fact, compared to Ock he's a total dumbass

Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
And everyone must remember that the strongest probably is Kraven, since he's stronger than Spidey himself.

Bullsh!t, Sandman is way stronger than Kraven, Electro can become stronger than Kraven and Doc Ock's arms are stronger than Kraven.... Kraven is not stronger than Spider-Man

Scarlet_Spidey
Kraven was stronger than spidey, otherwise Macendale wouldn't ever of wanted the elexir. Read your comics !

Apolloknight
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
Kraven was stronger than spidey, otherwise Macendale wouldn't ever of wanted the elexir. Read your comics !

From Marvel.com


By ingesting mystical potions Kraven was able to grant himself superhuman strength (capable of lifting approximately 2 tons under optimal conditions) and speed (able to sprint short distances up to 60 miles per hour). These same potions greatly slowed his aging process. At the time of his death he was over 70 years old and he appeared to be in his prime, though age was beginning to affect him. His agility, reflexes, stamina, and endurance were also enhanced. As he constantly ingested these potions he usually had these abilities, but without the effects of these potions he still possessed physical strength and agility of the level of an Olympic athlete.



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Scarlet_Spidey
Originally posted by Apolloknight
From Marvel.com


By ingesting mystical potions Kraven was able to grant himself superhuman strength (capable of lifting approximately 2 tons under optimal conditions) and speed (able to sprint short distances up to 60 miles per hour). These same potions greatly slowed his aging process. At the time of his death he was over 70 years old and he appeared to be in his prime, though age was beginning to affect him. His agility, reflexes, stamina, and endurance were also enhanced. As he constantly ingested these potions he usually had these abilities, but without the effects of these potions he still possessed physical strength and agility of the level of an Olympic athlete.



No

So ... what does that prove ?

Apolloknight
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
So ... what does that prove ?



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Scarlet_Spidey
Originally posted by Apolloknight
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That's not an answer ...

Apolloknight
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
That's not an answer ...


You said Kraven was stronger then spidy.








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Scarlet_Spidey
KRAVEN IS STRONGER WITH THE ELIXIR. Ok, tomorrow i'll scan it for YOU !

grey fox
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
KRAVEN IS STRONGER WITH THE ELIXIR. Ok, tomorrow i'll scan it for YOU !

OK , when Spidey started off (right at the beginning of his series , no upgrades) HE COULD LIFT TEN TONS.

Currently he can lift around 25 ton's. Kraven never has , and never will be stronger then Spidey . Now will you shut up and stop screaming that we're wrong.

bigbran
that is with the elixer, and kravens a 3 strength. spides can lift 10 tons, s hes the top 4 strength. and its all about the electro and sandman.
if electro was written good, hed be a planetary threat, the guy has complete control over all electricitie in the vicinity.
and i dont see any water people for sandman.
and with prep ock, will be the main man, even w/o it, he is in spides range of strength.
seriosly, you write thoses 3 good, and there pretty powerful(especialy the first 2, electro and sandman)
at least sinister 6 8/10, and thats at the least.

grey fox
Originally posted by bigbran
that is with the elixer, and kravens a 3 strength. spides can lift 10 tons, s hes the top 4 strength. and its all about the electro and sandman.
if electro was written good, hed be a planetary threat, the guy has complete control over all electricitie in the vicinity.
and i dont see any water people for sandman.
and with prep ock, will be the main man, even w/o it, he is in spides range of strength.
seriosly, you write thoses 3 good, and there pretty powerful(especialy the first 2, electro and sandman)
at least sinister 6 8/10, and thats at the least.

Not a planetary threat , but definitely a city...maybe even a small country sized threat.

But yeah Electro is the shiznitz , he can Magnetise objects , charge an area , give himself class five strength plus all of his usual powers. The man just doesn't get any respect....probably the Hokey puck that ended it all for him.

bigbran
well, he can control all electricity, and isnt only magneto and gravatron above him in those powers.

grey fox
Originally posted by bigbran
well, he can control all electricity, and isnt only magneto and gravatron above him in those powers.

Not ALL electricity , he can only store 10,000,000 volts within his body . Although occasionally he's been able to 'up-grade' himself .

bigbran
Originally posted by grey fox
Not ALL electricity , he can only store 10,000,000 volts within his body . Although occasionally he's been able to 'up-grade' himself . still hes fugging powerful, and i mean the electricity around him.
im going to bed.

outarddwarf
new mutants are suffocated fried and have holes punched through them with metal arms. Then mysterio puts out a giant hologram of the Dancing banana.

PWNED Happy Dance

Broly92
I know because the Sinister Six always do what they could like when one of them provides a challenge for Spider-Man and they face him together they lose to just Spider-MAN!!!!!!

Scoobless
Originally posted by Broly92
I know because the Sinister Six always do what they could like when one of them provides a challenge for Spider-Man and they face him together they lose to just Spider-MAN!!!!!!

They've beaten him a couple of times.... but he always managed to get out of it

Black Adam
Sinister six

Black Adam
Originally posted by grey fox
Not ALL electricity , he can only store 10,000,000 volts within his body . Although occasionally he's been able to 'up-grade' himself .

like when he drained NYC.

Grimm22
Elixer >>>>>>> Sinister Six no expression

Brutacus
Elixer can also hurt people by touch right??
and since he's omega level mutant he should be able to do some damage.

Sixth_Winged
I haven't seen him do something offensive with his powers yet(the kind that is useful) unless we are counting the alternate cruel HOM version of him. He hasn't really mastered the use of his powers or have lived up to expectations of him being Omega level.

And for the match, Six for the curbstomp.

Black Adam
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