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Create your own JL or X-men squad.

Criteria:

a) The team must be capable of at least KOing Thanos.
b) Can mix and match Marvel & DC characters
c) Must have at least 1 female on the team, who is not the mastermind/leader (see below)
d) Must have no more than 5 characters
e) Can not choose any characters above Thanos, i.e. no skyfathers/celestials..no prime beings or RKT either
f) Also, you must choose a 6th individual, who WILL not take part in any conflicts...person is a mastermind/leader so to speak to lead the group and plan/coordinate tactical functions
g) Finally, pick apart someone else's team for a nice debate...boast why yours is the best!

Enjoy!

Mastermind/Leader- Warlock- knows Thanos better than anyone.

Heroes

1. Silver Surfer
2. Dr. Strange
3. Superman
4. Thor
5. Ms. Marvel ( Carol Danvers)

I'm assuming its only heroes.

Victor Von Doom
Magneto
Superman
Green Lantern
Thor (if not Hulk)

Leader: Reed Richards
Female: Rogue
Muscle: Pitt (I know not DC or Marvel but I want him)
Support: Darwin & Fabian Cortez
Speed: Flash
Mental: Professor X

Nimbus, you can use "bad guys" too. Not a problem.

Well yea but I kinda like my team so here is an all Villian team

Mastermind/ Leader- Doom

1. Fallen One
2. Magneto
3. Doomsday
4. Classic Juggernaut
5. Eclipso

leader:King hyper
Cosmo:Captain Marv-ell
Girl:Holy fire thing Supergirl
Muscle:Amazo
Speed: Runner- lol he is allowed cause im only using speed not nothing like strength or big bangs etc.

Mastermind:Guilt Hulk

haha they will kill thanos for a joke

Leader: Reed Richards
Female/Mystic: Scarlet Witch
Tank: Classic Juggernaut
Damage: Superman
Speed:Flash
Psionic: Vulcan

Leader: Extremis Iron Man

1. Wonder Woman, if not her then She-Hulk
2. The Hulk
3. Martian Manhunter
4. Quicksilver
5. Vision

Originally posted by IronKnight101
Leader: Extremis Iron Man

1. Wonder Woman, if not her then She-Hulk
2. The Hulk
3. Wonder Man
4. Quicksilver
5. Vision

You know i do not think that team can take Thanos. Infact I know they cant.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Leader: Reed Richards
Female/Mystic: Scarlet Witch
Tank: Juggernaut
Damage: Superman
Speed:Flash
Psionic: Vulcan


nice team
like the supes with juggs combo

and vulcan with scarlet witch that would be a real good combo

flash runs around dragging reed to trap people some nice team you have-

Originally posted by nimbus006
You know i do not think that team can take Thanos. Infact I know they cant.

Originally posted by lilnutta12
nice team
like the supes with juggs combo

and vulcan with scarlet witch that would be a real good combo

flash runs around dragging reed to trap people some nice team you have-

Yea that one caught my eye as well. Still think my team is best though

Originally posted by nimbus006
You know i do not think that team can take Thanos. Infact I know they cant.

Well, I did not think we could use characters more than once and I thought we could only use heroes.

Oh well, no you can i think. Yea i thought it was only heroes as well.

Originally posted by nimbus006
You know i do not think that team can take Thanos. Infact I know they cant. Agreed, they would be toast. thanos2 = toast2

Dr Doom
Reed Richards
Dr. Fate
Dr. Strange
Superman
Phantom Stranger
I take over the Cosmos, see all of you in my throne room bowing under my feet.

New Team

Mastermind/ Leader- Richards
1. Black Bolt
2. GL Hal
3. Gladiator
4. Adam Warlock
5. Scarlet Witch

And all of them are wearing super sonic ear plugs created by Reed Richards.

Wouldn't the likes of Superman, Thor or Silver Surfer be considered Sky Father level?

Originally posted by nimbus006
New Team

Mastermind/ Leader- Richards
1. Black Bolt
2. GL Hal
3. Gladiator
4. Adam Warlock
5. Scarlet Witch

And all of them are wearing super sonic ear plugs created by Reed Richards.


Why you gonna go and steal Scalet Witch from me, whats up with that?

You know the Illuminati would work pretty well here as well.

Mastermind/Leader- Reed

1. Ironman
2. Dr. Strange
3. Namor
4. Black Bolt
5. Xavier

But i guess they would need a female, so replace Namor with Namorita...lol

Ok ok sorry Ill go with Zantanna

Originally posted by Soleran

Dr Doom
Reed Richards
Dr. Fate
Dr. Strange
Superman
Phantom Stranger

I take over the Cosmos, see all of you in my throne room bowing under my feet.


So far no team can get near mine, I am dominating the other teams with sheer brain power and magic!

Originally posted by nimbus006
You know the Illuminati would work pretty well here as well.

Mastermind/Leader- Reed

1. Ironman
2. Dr. Strange
3. Namor
4. Black Bolt
5. Xavier

But i guess they would need a female, so replace Namor with Namorita...lol I really can't see this team doing much to Thanos at all.

Leader: Dr. Doom

1. Martian Manhunter
2. Sentry
3. Flash (Bart Allen)
4. Jean Grey
5. AMAZO

Originally posted by Soleran
So far no team can get near mine, I am dominating the other teams with sheer brain power and magic! crazysign

Originally posted by Soleran
So far no team can get near mine, I am dominating the other teams with sheer brain power and magic!





Did you check my team........

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Did you check my team........ Did you check mine, Darwin (omega level mutant) binds with Pitt making him nasty then Cortez max them both out to god awful level and then Professor X protects his mind. What the hell would you do to him? Or Rouge absorbs all their powers and Cortez amps her up.

Originally posted by ThePittman
I really can't see this team doing much to Thanos at all.

Well Xavier, Ironman, and Namor would probably be non factors, but Strange and Black Bolt alone could give Thanos a run for his money.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Well Xavier, Ironman, and Namor would probably be non factors, but Strange and Black Bolt alone could give Thanos a run for his money. Black Bolt is nasty but I can't see doing much against Thanos's sheild. As for the magic don't know how Thanos does against that.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Did you check mine, Darwin (omega level mutant) binds with Pitt making him nasty then Cortez max them both out to god awful level and then Professor X protects his mind. What the hell would you do to him? Or Rouge absorbs all their powers and Cortez amps her up.


Flash speed-blitzes them all before they even thought (since he is faster then thought) about trying to do that, Superman knocks Pitt into orbit.

Vulcan after the House of M was describe to be beyond omega level, so he mind wipes your whole team.

Or Scarlet witch manipulates reality and puts them all in a Paradise filled world, and they lose by default.

Juggernaut sits back and says "You cant be serious, you must not know who we are?"

My first team is ridiculous.

Leader- Adam Warlock

1. Silver Surfer
2. Dr. Strange
3. Superman
4. Thor
5. Ms. Marvel

Originally posted by ThePittman
Black Bolt is nasty but I can't see doing much against Thanos's sheild. As for the magic don't know how Thanos does against that.

Thanos shield doesn't block out sound.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I was thinking of a good counter argument until i came across the Superman=Skyfather.

Your probably right, its Freaking Superman. thumbsup

Im pretty sure he can control the frequency, isnt that the purpose of the antenna on top of his head.

I dare anoyne to try and beat this team:

Martian Manhunter
The Doctor
Majestic
The Egineer
Baron Zemo (The Captain)
Flash

You need a female in there, and isnt the doctor above skyfather.

Guys, nice responses! ...seems that some of you are still confused as to whether or not you can use bad guys/villians.

The answer is yes.

Leader - Reed Richards

Silver Surfer
Mr. Majestic
Martian Manhunter
Dr. Doom
Wonder Woman

i debated as to having reed richards a genius, or someone like professor xavior a psychic as my leader...

THIS IS THE TRUE TEAM

LEADER-aunt may
2ic-squirrel girl
joker-slapstick
regeneration-deadpool
annoying-loki

mastermind-n THE SPOT



HA THE ULTIMATE TEAM CAN KILL EVEN THE SUPREME CELESTIALS

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
Leader - Reed Richards

Silver Surfer
Mr. Majestic
Martian Manhunter
Dr. Doom
Wonder Woman

i debated as to having reed richards a genius, or someone like professor xavior a psychic as my leader... That's why I put X in my fighting team and Reed as the leader.

Originally posted by nimbus006
You need a female in there
The Engineer is a female

Originally posted by nimbus006
, and isnt the doctor above skyfather.


No

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
What this team .....

Leader: Reed Richards
Female: Rogue
Muscle: Pitt (I know not DC or Marvel but I want him)
Support: Darwin & Fabian Cortez
Speed: Flash
Mental: Professor X


Hardly ! How and why, give reasons.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Leader: Reed Richards
Female: Rogue
Muscle: Pitt (I know not DC or Marvel but I want him)
Support: Darwin & Fabian Cortez
Speed: Flash
Mental: Professor X

your leader is good, but other than that, i don't see this team having much of an effect on thanos...

flash would be the only one to pose a threat because of his speed.

i was debating the leaders because i knew that neither of them would be good to have in my fighting force but both were good leaders...

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I dare anoyne to try and beat this team:

Martian Manhunter
The Doctor
Majestic
The Egineer
Baron Zemo (The Captain)
Flash



So far this is the only team that can give me a run for it so far.

Originally posted by Soleran
Dr Doom
Reed Richards
Dr. Fate
Dr. Strange
Superman
Phantom Stranger
I take over the Cosmos, see all of you in my throne room bowing under my feet.





Vulcan Mind Wipes your whole team


GG

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Vulcan Mind Wipes your whole team


GG




As my team is either sitting in Dooms castle Superman uses Doom's time machine and Vulcan just ceases to exist.............next.

Originally posted by Soleran
As my team is either sitting in Dooms castle Superman uses Doom's time machine and Vulcan just ceases to exist.............next.

Flash Speedblitz's dooms castle before your team even has a thought about using dooms time machine........

next.

leader:High Evolutionary
Cosmo: Silver Surfer
Girl: Nova
Muscle: Terminus
Speed: Runner

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Flash Speedblitz's dooms castle before your team even has a thought about using dooms time machine........

next.

Show me Flash Speedblitzing Superman

Originally posted by Soleran
Show me Flash Speedblitzing Superman




I cant believe you would even question Flash's speed..........

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Professor X is going to turn off Vulcans mind................really now

Edit: And i forgot, how is he going to turn off Juggernauts mind, ya know, with his helmet and all..... Yes he does have telepathy but not on the level of X, his other powers yes but not on that level. If he did then he would have used that ability during the Deadly Genesis issues to show everyone what X did to him.

professor x would not turn off superman or vulcan's mind...

i think you are over estimating him pittman or underestimating them...

Also anything that you do to Darwin he evolves from it including death, he can turn into pure energy and envelope everyone on my team where as your Darwin is powering Vulcan.

Muscle: War Hulk
Speed: Zoom II
Mind: Onslaught (Pre-Reality-Warping-Upgrades, just baseline)
Magic: The Enchantress
Flying Brick: Gladiator

Leader: Captain America (Mindlinked with everyone through Onslaught)

Bring. It. On.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Also anything that you do to Darwin he evolves from it including death, he can turn into pure energy and envelope everyone on my team where as your Darwin is powering Vulcan.


And Vulcan cuts off his brain waves, off course mind wipes him right after-words.


Face it. Right now, my team is the team to beat.

Leader: Reed Richards

Scarlet Witch
Vulcan
Juggernaut
Superman
Flash

Originally posted by Apolloknight
And Vulcan cuts off his brain waves, off course mind wipes him right after-words. How's he going to do that once X turns his brain off? Besides he would evolve from that as well.

Originally posted by ThePittman
How's he going to do that once X turns his brain off? Besides he would evolve from that as well.


You really are under-estimating vulcan, really........

Originally posted by Apolloknight


I cant believe you would even question Flash's speed..........

Was that me questioning Flash's speed? I think not, its comparing Superman to Flash's speed. Is Flash faster, sure, is Flash fast enough to stop Superman in this small example, probably not.

Vulcan gets vaporized

Appolo, what if I use your same exact team, and sub in SS instead of Supes?



Hooohahahahahahah!!!

Originally posted by Soleran
Was that me questioning Flash's speed? I think not, its comparing Superman to Flash's speed. Is Flash faster, sure, is Flash fast enough to stop Superman in this small example, probably not.

Vulcan gets vaporized


Flash is faster then Thought, before you team even thinks of using dooms time machine, flash, speedblitz's his castle.

Flash's speedforce>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Superman

Originally posted by BobbyD
Appolo, what if I use your same exact team, and sub in SS instead of Supes?



Hooohahahahahahah!!!

Sorry, Appollo. ...didn't mean to spoil your fun.

Originally posted by Dalak
Muscle: War Hulk
Speed: Zoom II
Mind: Onslaught (Pre-Reality-Warping-Upgrades, just baseline)
Magic: The Enchantress
Flying Brick: Gladiator

Leader: Captain America (Mindlinked with everyone through Onslaught)

Bring. It. On.


Reed Richards>>>>>>>>Captian America

Flash and Zoom 2 have one of there historic battles going either way, but speedforce FTW

Vulcan and Onslaught, hmmm, not sure who is the better telepath here, Vulcan can imatate other peoples powers by just reading their mind, chronokinesis, reality warping, just to name a few, so for now Im going with Vulcan here.

Honestly I dont know enough about Enchantress to make a decision.
Let me know some of her powers and I'll let you know what I think.

My team...

Leader: Reed Richards

Scarlet Witch
Dr. Strange
Onslaught
Thor
Flash

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Reed Richards>>>>>>>>Captian America

Smarts? Maybe, and if he was able to make any machines that might help but it's just leadership quality since neither are allowed in interfere. He's the one lacking in that department, son.



You say Tomato, I say Tomato. LIke you said this can go either way, though Zoom has teh tiniest edge IMO which is why I picked him.



Onslaught didn't jsut have Xavier's mind powers, he also had Magneto's. Remember, he didn't need a Helmet to keep Charles out in the past. Though X > Mags in minds, X + Mags is scary. Add in complete control over the EM spectrum and it's devastating. These guys will be duking it out a LOONG time.



The Thor Villianess, and I don't really know much about her besides that she's an Asguardian Sorceress near the same level as Loki, and that's a guy Dr. Strange wants to avoid.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/e/enchantress.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enchantress_(Marvel_Comics)

And in looking over your team, if you get Wanda's Major Reality Altering powers then I get at least Franklin Richards inside Onslaught

whats the point of this thread?

Originally posted by bigbran
whats the point of this thread? My team can beat up your team, or at least it is now.

galactus
thor
ss
beta ray bill
omega

Originally posted by bigbran
galactus
thor
ss
beta ray bill
omega Well there is a limit of Skyfather/Celistial level characters.no

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
vulcan just not allows prof-x to use his powers How's that?

Classic Thor
He got strength, durability, reflexes and speed at high superhuman levels, plus all the energy powers of mjolnir and his god of thunder and lightning at his disposal, not to mention his strength belt, battle gloves and battle armor which made him a more dangerous opponent, and the famous "Warrior Madness".Thor is also a skilled fighter and tactician, thousand years of experience, he's not some huge blond man with a hammer.

Namor
Strength, durability, reflexes and speed at high superhuman levels too, not high as Thor, but we all know how powerful Namor is, and if you don't, check out Darkcrawler's respect thread.The Avenging Son also got some energy manipulation abilities and access to the magic armor Neptunes gave him and to the magical trident.
Less years of experience than Thor, but still many battle faced, Namor is another great member for this team.

Genis Vell
This guy fought Sentry and beat him, just like Thor, he got a vast array of powers at his disposal, and he usually doesn't hold back but preferes to go all out whenever he cant.Genis is showing that he's proud of being Mar Vell son, even if he don't care about it anymore.

Binary
When Carol Danvers was the female space demi-god known as Binary she draw power from a white star, she was able to grant herself strength, durability, speed and energy powers of a high level, and she also looked really hot.

Orion
Anothe godly guy with an attitude for war and fight who match that of Thor himself, his physical treats are on a high level, and he can also manipulate Astro Force and boost his powers letting his berserker rage going out.Orion is also a skilled and experienced warrior.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Classic Thor
He got strength, durability, reflexes and speed at high superhuman levels, plus all the energy powers of mjolnir and his god of thunder and lightning at his disposal, not to mention his strength belt, battle gloves and battle armor which made him a more dangerous opponent, and the famous "Warrior Madness".Thor is also a skilled fighter and tactician, thousand years of experience, he's not some huge blond man with a hammer.

Namor
Strength, durability, reflexes and speed at high superhuman levels too, not high as Thor, but we all know how powerful Namor is, and if you don't, check out Darkcrawler's respect thread.The Avenging Son also got some energy manipulation abilities and access to the magic armor Neptunes gave him and to the magical trident.
Less years of experience than Thor, but still many battle faced, Namor is another great member for this team.

Genis Vell
This guy fought Sentry and beat him, just like Thor, he got a vast array of powers at his disposal, and he usually doesn't hold back but preferes to go all out whenever he cant.Genis is showing that he's proud of being Mar Vell son, even if he don't care about it anymore.

Binary
When Carol Danvers was the female space demi-god known as Binary she draw power from a white star, she was able to grant herself strength, durability, speed and energy powers of a high level, and she also looked really hot.

Orion
Anothe godly guy with an attitude for war and fight who match that of Thor himself, his physical treats are on a high level, and he can also manipulate Astro Force and boost his powers letting his berserker rage going out.Orion is also a skilled and experienced warrior. Well I believe some of them are Skyfather/Celistial level characters.

Originally posted by Dalak
Smarts? Maybe, and if he was able to make any machines that might help but it's just leadership quality since neither are allowed in interfere. He's the one lacking in that department, son.



You say Tomato, I say Tomato. LIke you said this can go either way, though Zoom has teh tiniest edge IMO which is why I picked him.



Onslaught didn't jsut have Xavier's mind powers, he also had Magneto's. Remember, he didn't need a Helmet to keep Charles out in the past. Though X > Mags in minds, X + Mags is scary. Add in complete control over the EM spectrum and it's devastating. These guys will be duking it out a LOONG time.



The Thor Villianess, and I don't really know much about her besides that she's an Asguardian Sorceress near the same level as Loki, and that's a guy Dr. Strange wants to avoid.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/e/enchantress.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enchantress_(Marvel_Comics)

And in looking over your team, if you get Wanda's Major Reality Altering powers then I get at least Franklin Richards inside Onslaught


I like your team, you describe them well, and honestly I think it could give my team some trouble, some.....

You see Vulcan and Wanda are my Jokers, and alot of people don't understand that, well, Vulcan can use other peoples powers by just thinking about it, and of course, he would just look at flash, and guess what, You now have one of the most powerful telepath's in existence, moving and thinking faster then the speed of light. This alone could equal instant death for your team. Wanna make it even crazier, after he looks at flash, he looks at Hulk..........

I know I know, its silly

But Ill entertain you with the other fights.

Reed Richards my not be anywhere in the league of Capt in terms of leadership, but He Does have Tech, yes, Crazy tech, and don't get me wrong, leadership is important. But the Tech that reed can come up with....yeah.

Flash has beat Zoom 2 before, albeit they have very close battles, but like i Said, I would have to believe the speed-force would eventually trump him.

War Hulk, well he gets put in never never land by Wanda, or gets mind wiped by vulcan. And I know hulk has pretty good telepathic resistance, but this is wanda and vulcan I'm talking about.

I think me and you both know Gladiator and Superman would be locked in a battle throwing planets at one another in outer space. But while Superman cant weaken outside of that precious little stone or powerful magic, Glads confidence can, and remember Supes does have T-Vo, it is said he can induce illusions and all types of crazy stuff. He would make Glads think he's fighting 30 Superman's, and the second Gladiator hesitates, when he sees 30 Superman charging him, well hesitation comes from doubt, and doubt affects confidence. You know the rest.

Enchantress hmm, after reading over her powers nothing really jumps out at me, she seem to have to be able to create illusions and casts spells, travel through dimensions and some other things, but wanda reshaped the whole 616, EVERYBODY was fooled so, yeah. But even still just be reading he powers, and some of her back story, nothing seems to impress me, and she's not even the top sorcerer is Asgard.

Onslaught is your best bet, he would be hard to take down, but I think my team could do it, After Vulcan Mind wipes your whole team (thanks to him using flashes powers). My team gains up on onslaught, If this is his first form, Vulcan could take it down by himself, (Using Your hulks vast Strength to crack his armor).

His second form, The reality warper, would be a struggle between wanda, vulcan, vs. Onslaught, I'm not sure if vulcan's and wandas combined might could take him down, but I would believe so. If not, someone would have to sacrifice them selves to kill this form, maybe flash, after that, my team just unloads everything they have, until he falls, just like he did before.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I like your team, you describe them well, and honestly I think it could give my team some trouble, some.....

You see Vulcan and Wanda are my Jokers, and alot of people don't understand that, well, Vulcan can use other peoples powers by just thinking about it, and of course, he would just look at flash, and guess what, You now have one of the most powerful telepath's in existence, moving and thinking faster then the speed of light. This alone could equal instant death for your team. Wanna make it even crazier, after he looks at flash, he looks at Hulk..........

I know I know, its silly

But Ill entertain you with the other fights.

Reed Richards my not be anywhere in the league of Capt in terms of leadership, but He Does have Tech, yes, Crazy tech, and don't get me wrong, leadership is important. But the Tech that reed can come up with....yeah.

Flash has beat Zoom 2 before, albeit they have very close battles, but like i Said, I would have to believe the speed-force would eventually trump him.

War Hulk, well he gets put in never never land by Wanda, or gets mind wiped by vulcan. And I know hulk has pretty good telepathic resistance, but this is wanda and vulcan I'm talking about.

I think me and you both know Gladiator and Superman would be locked in a battle throwing planets at one another in outer space. But while Superman cant weaken outside of that precious little stone or powerful magic, Glads confidence can, and remember Supes does have T-Vo, it is said he can induce illusions and all types of crazy stuff. He would make Glads think he's fighting 30 Superman's, and the second Gladiator hesitates, when he sees 30 Superman charging him, well hesitation comes from doubt, and doubt affects confidence. You know the rest.

Enchantress hmm, after reading over her powers nothing really jumps out at me, she seem to have to be able to create illusions and casts spells, travel through dimensions and some other things, but wanda reshaped the whole 616, EVERYBODY was fooled so, yeah. But even still just be reading he powers, and some of her back story, nothing seems to impress me, and she's not even the top sorcerer is Asgard.

Onslaught is your best bet, he would be hard to take down, but I think my team could do it, After Vulcan Mind wipes your whole team (thanks to him using flashes powers). My team gains up on onslaught, If this is his first form, Vulcan could take it down by himself, (Using Your hulks vast Strength to crack his armor).

His second form, The reality warper, would be a struggle between wanda, vulcan, vs. Onslaught, I'm not sure if vulcan's and wandas combined might could take him down, but I would believe so. If not, someone would have to sacrifice them selves to kill this form, maybe flash, after that, my team just unloads everything they have, until he falls, just like he did before.

I think I know exactly how to nullify every advantage your team has over mine by adding one character: War Hulk -> Amazo.

You are underestimating Gladiator, since he is more akin to Pre-Crisis Supes than Curent Supes at his(Glads') high end, so while they will be fighting awhile Glads will win in the end.

Vulcan is nice, but now knowing about him I'd have to say Zoom would be smart enough to use his slight edge in speed to take him out quick before being locked in a Speed-Duel with The Flash.

With Uber-Wanda The Enchantress will be going down quick, but Uber-Onslaught more than makes up for her loss, and without Vulcan's backup she will be going down.

War-Hulk has probably KO-ed/Killed Juggs at this point, while the Superspeed Duels are still quite active, and Onslaught tips the scales in teh Gladiator fight by popping out a few Miniature Red Suns/Kryptonite Moons, andtogether they have a good chance of taking out the Flash without any further casualties.

Again, Reed and Cap are only in as Advisory Roles, and if they are given that knowledge I'm sure Cap would take out the biggest threat first.

Even a clap at the Bell by Hulk might be enough to stun Vulcan (If his body is Basic Human like most mutants, since I can't find anything on Wiki or marvel though I've heard of him involved with Xavier bevore) and then Onslaught can wipe him out with a thought, since it will take time for him to think to look at Flash and Do so, and he might not even be able to see Flash unless he waits long enough for himself to be seen in which case Zoom is free to vape half of your team. With those 2 running around they will be effectively invisible.

I can see your Team winning against mine, but after careful thought I belive mine gets the majority out of 10.

Originally posted by Dalak
I think I know exactly how to nullify every advantage your team has over mine by adding one character: War Hulk -> Amazo.

You are underestimating Gladiator, since he is more akin to Pre-Crisis Supes than Curent Supes at his(Glads') high end, so while they will be fighting awhile Glads will win in the end.

Vulcan is nice, but now knowing about him I'd have to say Zoom would be smart enough to use his slight edge in speed to take him out quick before being locked in a Speed-Duel with The Flash.

With Uber-Wanda The Enchantress will be going down quick, but Uber-Onslaught more than makes up for her loss, and without Vulcan's backup she will be going down.

War-Hulk has probably KO-ed/Killed Juggs at this point, while the Superspeed Duels are still quite active, and Onslaught tips the scales in teh Gladiator fight by popping out a few Miniature Red Suns/Kryptonite Moons, andtogether they have a good chance of taking out the Flash without any further casualties.

Again, Reed and Cap are only in as Advisory Roles, and if they are given that knowledge I'm sure Cap would take out the biggest threat first.

Even a clap at the Bell by Hulk might be enough to stun Vulcan (If his body is Basic Human like most mutants, since I can't find anything on Wiki or marvel though I've heard of him involved with Xavier bevore) and then Onslaught can wipe him out with a thought, since it will take time for him to think to look at Flash and Do so, and he might not even be able to see Flash unless he waits long enough for himself to be seen in which case Zoom is free to vape half of your team. With those 2 running around they will be effectively invisible.

I can see your Team winning against mine, but after careful thought I belive mine gets the majority out of 10.

Zoom really didnt have a slight edge in speed, Flash eventually proved himself to be faster, when he caught up to him and hit him in the back when they were running around the world.

This entire fight is won by flash or Zoom, if Zoom gets a sucssful speedblitz (which is going to be very very very hard) on vulcan, the fights in your favor. But if flash stops him (which is more likely since he will be standing near vulcan) the fights in our favor.

If flash stops Zoom, Vuclan uses his Chrono-kinesis- He has the mutant ability to control time. He can slow it down or even stop it in small radiuses. He also has the ability to replay time, watching events occur in certain areas as if they were phantoms.

Vulcan stops time on Zoom and everybody else, form here he could do anything, IE make flash faster because he also has Darwins evolutionary powers, Make Juggernaut more powerful, make superman evolve from his weakness to kyrptonite. Or he would just uses Flash's powers giving him lightspeed thinking, and then do these things.

From this point its all down hill for your team. And of Course Vulcans going to save Onslaught for last, Since he is in his First Form, He cant do all those crazy summon a star things until his second form.

So, Flash stops Zoom 8-9/10

Vulcan doesn't have telepathy. And he can't mimic people's powers not without Darwin at least iirc.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Vulcan doesn't have telepathy. And he can't mimic people's powers not without Darwin at least iirc.



Marvel.com

Vulcan has thus far demonstrated enormous energy-manipulation, psionic powers, the ablility to control other's powers, super-adaptive physiology, and geokinesis. He has also acquired the abilities of his teammates Petra (geokinesis), Darwin (advanced adaptation), and Sway (time manipulation) after his revival.

From Wiki a little more detialed

His precise powers are not known at this time. He has displayed enormous psionic abilities; including energy-manipulation, psychometry, telepathy, and telekinesis as well as the ability to duplicate the powers of others by unknown means. Emma Frost, Rachel Summers and Professor Xavier have confirmed him to be beyond an Omega-level mutant. However "Beyond Omega" is speculated to be a mistake by writer Ed Brubaker since one cannot be more powerful than unlimited therefore Vulcan may also be considered just an Omega-level mutant. After being swallowed by the very soil of Krakoa, he was given by Darwin his powers and those of his teammates Petra and Sway, giving him their abilities of advanced adaptation, terrakinesis, and time manipulation, respectively.


Vulcans a monster................

Originally posted by Apolloknight If flash stops Zoom, Vuclan uses his Chrono-kinesis- He has the mutant ability to control time. He can slow it down or even stop it in small radiuses. He also has the ability to replay time, watching events occur in certain areas as if they were phantoms.

Vulcan stops time on Zoom and everybody else, form here he could do anything, IE make flash faster because he also has Darwins evolutionary powers, Make Juggernaut more powerful, make superman evolve from his weakness to kyrptonite. Or he would just uses Flash's powers giving him lightspeed thinking, and then do these things.

Now this is where I've got a problem. Since Zoom's powers are adjusting his personal timeframe, how can someone "Stop Time" for him since he controls his own?

Stopping time would be the single worst thing that Vulcan could do IMO since that would give Zoom the chance to take out everyone on your team before Vulcan. If Flash freezes, Zoom won't take long to figure it out.

When did he demonstrate telepathy. He needed a telepath namely Xavier or Rachel to even link minds. Whose powers did he duplicate?

IIRC Zoom is outside of time.

BTW why is the Scarlet Witch allowed. She remade a universe, and nearly brought down the house of cards that is the multiverse by doing so.

Originally posted by Apolloknight


Marvel.com

Vulcan has thus far demonstrated enormous energy-manipulation, psionic powers, the ablility to control other's powers, super-adaptive physiology, and geokinesis. He has also acquired the abilities of his teammates Petra (geokinesis), Darwin (advanced adaptation), and Sway (time manipulation) after his revival.

From Wiki a little more detialed

His precise powers are not known at this time. He has displayed enormous psionic abilities; including energy-manipulation, psychometry, telepathy, and telekinesis as well as the ability to duplicate the powers of others by unknown means. Emma Frost, Rachel Summers and Professor Xavier have confirmed him to be beyond an Omega-level mutant. However "Beyond Omega" is speculated to be a mistake by writer Ed Brubaker since one cannot be more powerful than unlimited therefore Vulcan may also be considered just an Omega-level mutant. After being swallowed by the very soil of Krakoa, he was given by Darwin his powers and those of his teammates Petra and Sway, giving him their abilities of advanced adaptation, terrakinesis, and time manipulation, respectively.


Vulcans a monster................

Could you give me a link to his Wiki page? I search for Vulcan and I get the God or Nothing.

Spiderman
Superman
Wolverine
Iceman
Storm

Leader-Xavier

Originally posted by IceDragon
Spiderman
Superman
Wolverine
Iceman
Storm

Who's your extra who will be leading, remember, the will end up not being able to interfere.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
When did he demonstrate telepathy. He needed a telepath namely Xavier or Rachel to even link minds. Whose powers did he duplicate?

IIRC Zoom is outside of time.

BTW why is the Scarlet Witch allowed. She remade a universe, and nearly brought down the house of cards that is the multiverse by doing so.

Hmmmm, I really want to more about Vulcan now.

And I ahve a problem with Uber-Wanda too, but that's why I picked Onslaught. If Ubers are allowed, he's a whopper, and if not he makes a GOOD Top Tier with his basic powerset.

oh yeah i forgot, let me add that.

Originally posted by Dalak
Could you give me a link to his Wiki page? I search for Vulcan and I get the God or Nothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_%28comics%29

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
When did he demonstrate telepathy. He needed a telepath namely Xavier or Rachel to even link minds. Whose powers did he duplicate?

IIRC Zoom is outside of time.

BTW why is the Scarlet Witch allowed. She remade a universe, and nearly brought down the house of cards that is the multiverse by doing so.

Because shes not a cosmic, read the OP

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Because shes not a cosmic, read the OP I did but when exactly has anyone below skyfather level had the power to remake a universe?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I did but when exactly has anyone below skyfather level had the power to remake a universe?

Scarlet witch.......

Originally posted by Apolloknight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_%28comics%29

Hmmmmm

I'm not sure, but it looks like Currently he's without Darwin and the powers given him through thier bonding, so his exact powers are unknown.

What was his powerset Pre-Darwin-Boost?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Scarlet witch....... K.

Do the teams have to be made from people others haven't chosen already?

BTW Vulcan has no chrono- or terra- powers without Darwin.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
K.

Do the teams have to be made from people others haven't chosen already?

BTW Vulcan has no chrono- or terra- powers without Darwin.


Which is why I use current Vulcan, I would be crazy not too!!!

No you can make your team of anybody, But Dalak has made a team thats pretty good using none of mine that I selected.

1. TOAA
2. Lucifer
3. Michael
4. Elaine
5. The Presence

These are all under abstract level, right?

Originally posted by Dalak
Hmmmmm

I'm not sure, but it looks like Currently he's without Darwin and the powers given him through thier bonding, so his exact powers are unknown.

What was his powerset Pre-Darwin-Boost?


Its always been within his ability to use other peoples powers, Omega level telekinesis, energy manipulation. He only received darwins powers after he was killed, thus his evolutionary powers, along with his geokinesis, and chronokinesis, If you read his bio on Marvel.com he said he used Sways and Marvel girls powers against the X-men.

Hmmm, vulcan sounds interesting, I have only skimmed through Deadly Genesis comics, I'm thinking about picking a few up tomorrow now.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Which is why I use current Vulcan, I would be crazy not too!!!

No you can make your team of anybody, But Dalak has made a team thats pretty good using none of mine that I selected.

From the Wiki link you gave:





So I assume you aren't using Current Darwin then . . . .

You all stink. FORGET YOU ALL!!!! *runs away crying like a girl*

Originally posted by batdude123
You all stink. FORGET YOU ALL!!!! *runs away crying like a girl*

What? You forgot a leader too, so we ignored you . .






































. . cuz you SUCK!!!!

Originally posted by Dalak
What? You forgot a leader too, so we ignored you . .






































. . cuz you SUCK!!!!

WHO THE HELL IS A BIGGER OR BETTER LEADER THAN THE PRESENCE OR TOAA???!!!!

Mad Jim Jaspers
Despero
The Fury
Sersi
Superboy Prime

Alexander Luthor Jr.

Originally posted by batdude123
WHO THE HELL IS A BIGGER OR BETTER LEADER THAN THE PRESENCE OR TOAA???!!!!

You need 5 members, one of which is a chick AND a seperate Leader, D00fus!!

Originally posted by Dalak
You need 5 members, one of which is a chick AND a seperate Leader, D00fus!!



Alright, replace The Presence with the Spectre, and the Presence would be the team leader.

No takers...? Cool... guess I win..

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Mad Jim Jaspers
Despero
The Fury
Sersi
Superboy Prime

Alexander Luthor Jr.

Lesse, the limit is: e) Can not choose any characters above Thanos, i.e. no skyfathers/celestials..no prime beings or RKT either

Okay, Jim, gone,

Fury? Oh yes it's dead.

Super-Emo? Yeah, Pre-Crisis Supes can beat Thanos, as well as Juggle Planets and breathe out stars with a quick puff. I wouldn't let him.

That's why I topped out my Onslaught at Pre-Upgrades.

And that's why I'm thinking of calling Shenanigans on Wanda and Vulcan seems to be powerful, but not on the Big scale like Full Power Onslaught/Uber Wanda are.

His ambiguity right now is annoying though, since the current him's powers aren't known.

Hey.. the Scarlet Witch was allowed.

Jimmy J's just a mutie too. SBP isn't skyfather or celestial either.

The Fury is dead? I know. So? Where's Onslaught?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hey.. the Scarlet Witch was allowed.

Jimmy J's just a mutie too. SBP isn't skyfather or celestial either.

The Fury is dead? I know. So? Where's Onslaught?

I meant Fury's out of the TOurney, not literally dead. And just cause it hasn't been called down yet doesn't mean she's been allowed. I could load my Team with Franklin RIchards and the like if that was teh way it works

Franklin Richards is nothing to Jimmy J.

The Fury's out? You confuse me. A difficult thing to do.

The Fury is neither a Skyfather nor Celestial nor Cosmic being.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Franklin Richards is nothing to Jimmy J.

The Fury's out? You confuse me. A difficult thing to do.

The Fury is neither a Skyfather nor Celestial nor Cosmic being.

No but it's designed to kill them, jut like the Asquardian Destroyer

Team Warp Your Reality The Easy Way

Emperor Joker
Full Power CIS-Free Onslaught
Pre-Retcon Molecule Man
Adam Warlock with the IG
Parallax "One Punch" Jordan

Leader: Optimus Prime with a CD of "The Touch" on Loop with the Matrix.

Meh Alexander has the Multiverse Tower...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh Alexander has the Multiverse Tower...

Leader's can't get involved, but anything Prime leads using The Touch while holding The Matrix CAN'T lose. He might die but the day will be won.

Well we have gone into the ridiculous now haven't we?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well we have gone into the ridiculous now haven't we?

Not yet

Team Rediculous

Bugs Bunny ("This Means War" Mode)
BeetleJuice (Toon: Just said "It's Showtime"
Universe Man (They Might Be Giants - particle Man)
"Causality Is My Little B***h' Tom Servo ( http://youtube.com/watch?v=zE3UIYnF9w0 )
Sorcerer's Apprentice Mickey Mouse

Leader: Hannibal (The A-Team)

Not Mr T? I pity you fool.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Not Mr T? I pity you fool.

I picked Fake Things all, cept for the Leader, but you want T, you got him.

Team 80's

Mr. T
Chuck Norris
He-Man
Captain N: The Game Master
Mario (Super Mario World: All Power Ups)

Leader: Ronald Reagan

Originally posted by Dalak
Leader: Ronald Reagan He's no Denny Crane.. but he'll do.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He's no Denny Crane.. but he'll do.

3AM is bedtime, so if you want a Flamboyant Lawyer team you'll ahve to come up with one of your own.

Just don't forget Matlock or Perry Mason

Maaatttttlock...

Bye.

if we are talking about current vulcan he don't has his superadaptation powers and so on but then prof-x is not a mutant these days anyway vulcan can still shutt of his like he did to rachel who is omega level

This team?

Leader: Reed Richards
Female: Rogue
Muscle: Pitt (I know not DC or Marvel but I want him)
Support: Darwin & Fabian Cortez
Speed: Flash
Mental: Professor X

Any one of my people can probably take your entire team.

Mad Jim Jaspers
Despero
The Fury
Sersi
Superboy Prime

Alexander Luthor Jr.

Leader: Steel

Dr.Fate
Superman
WonderWoman
Flash
HalJordan

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Leaderteel

Dr.Fate
Superman
WonderWoman
Flash
HalJordan Yours too for the most part.

Can we have reserves?

No idea. I didn't make the thread.

My reserves would be Atom, Plastic Man, and Shazam.

Originally posted by Soleran
Dr Doom
Reed Richards
Dr. Fate
Dr. Strange
Superman
Phantom Stranger
I take over the Cosmos, see all of you in my throne room bowing under my feet.

Most believe that every member of the Quintessence is Skyfather level. Therefore Phantom starnger is out. Flash speed blitz's Strange, and Majestic speed blitz's Fate. Zemo drops Doom and Reed in a black hole, and the egineer shrinks to microscopic level and infects Supes with a nano virus. The Doctor acts as plan b, as he transforms anyone, who was successsful against my team into a tree or a bird.

Classic Thor
Namor
Orion
Binary
Genis Vell/Photon

Mastermind:
Metron

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Flash is faster then Thought, before you team even thinks of using dooms time machine, flash, speedblitz's his castle.

Flash's speedforce>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Superman

Do you think Superman travels multiples of lightspeed and only thinks as fast as a typical human

damn double post junkies like myself!