Superman (vs) Ego The living Planet

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Soujaboy
who wins?

Fight to the Death

The Pict
probably superman

Dalak
I'm not so sure about Superman's victory here, and as it is I'm trying to find visual proof of him Stalemating Galactus, and from memory a particularly nasty Herald tricked him into going after Ego when hungry one day and he got beaten too, but that's a Hungry Galactus and not mentoined anywhere that I can find at the moment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_the_Living_Planet

bigbran
why would supes win?

Juntai
Gladiator beat Ego.

Soujaboy
Originally posted by Juntai
Gladiator beat Ego.

So has Thor, but would Superman?

bigbran
Originally posted by Juntai
Gladiator beat Ego. abc logic, and when someone else uses examples like that, you get mad, and write a long post.

Soujaboy
Originally posted by bigbran
abc logic, and when someone else uses examples like that, you get mad, and write a long post. laughing

Grimm22
Why is it that a foe that challanges even Galactus gets beaten by guys like Thor and Gladiator no expression

bigbran
because he doesnt have arms to protect himself.

Juntai
Originally posted by Grimm22
Why is it that a foe that challanges even Galactus gets beaten by guys like Thor and Gladiator no expression If I remember right, all Gladiator did was punch it a couple times.

Soujaboy
Originally posted by Grimm22
Why is it that a foe that challanges even Galactus gets beaten by guys like Thor and Gladiator no expression

I don't know about his fight with Gladiator, but Thor defeated Galactus and Ego. I caused a Thunderstorm on ego's surface, that he couldn't stop. Galactus was starving, still a great feat though.

Broly92
It depends if it is fighting a normal Galactus and not getting humiliated then he wins if not Superman wins and trust me if I say he wins he WINS

The Pict
i imagine if thor can beat ego then so can superman, he is fast enough to dodge egos cosmo blasts or whatever it is he does. he'd probably fly straight threw the planet

Soujaboy
Originally posted by The Pict
i imagine if thor can beat ego then so can superman, he is fast enough to dodge egos cosmo blasts or whatever it is he does. he'd probably fly straight threw the planet

laughing laughing laughing

batdude123
Originally posted by Soujaboy
laughing laughing laughing

roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Soujaboy
Originally posted by batdude123
roll eyes (sarcastic)

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That means what?

batdude123
Originally posted by Soujaboy
That means what?

Oh boy. doh

Only Superman defeating a planet. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Grimm22
Ego >>>> Cannibal Planet no expression

Why?

One Word: Mustache cool

Broly92
Originally posted by Soujaboy
That means what?
Batman wins cool

Dalak
Originally posted by batdude123
roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Is this the sun-eater that killed Earth's Sun and caused Parralax to sacrifice himself?

batdude123
Originally posted by Dalak
Is this the sun-eater that killed Earth's Sun and caused Parralax to sacrifice himself?

Yes.

Soujaboy
Originally posted by batdude123
Yes.

He isn't on Par with Galactus

batdude123
Originally posted by Soujaboy
He isn't on Par with Galactus

How the hell would you know??? Besides, neither is Gladiator or Thor. Nice try.

Dalak
Originally posted by batdude123
Yes.

Why didn't supes, y'know, KILL THE FREAKING THING BEFORE IT DID IRREPERABLE DAMAGE TO THE SUN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

batdude123
Originally posted by Dalak
Why didn't supes, y'know, KILL THE FREAKING THING BEFORE IT DID IRREPERABLE DAMAGE TO THE SUN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

Because he's Superman. cool

Soujaboy
Originally posted by batdude123
How the hell would you know??? Besides, neither is Gladiator or Thor. Nice try.

So he's on par with Galactus? Thor and Gladiator aren't but Ego is or is close.

Broly92
Originally posted by batdude123
Because he's Superman. cool
and he is an idiot whistle

batdude123
Originally posted by Broly92
and he is awesome yes

Broly92
Originally posted by batdude123
no I am an idiot

steverules
Aunt May win's cool

Broly92
Originally posted by steverules
Aunt May win's cool
SHe is too powerfull she is on par with TOAA

batdude123
Originally posted by Broly92
I'm discombulated about all these dire events because I'm a brash and haughty punk who doesn't understand the vastness of Superman's potential. I am so blinded by my hatred of him, that I'll say anything to spite him.

Broly92
Originally posted by batdude123
I am a jerk
What the f**k? I said Superman wins but the second thing you said is true

complexbrother
Originally posted by Dalak
Is this the sun-eater that killed Earth's Sun and caused Parralax to sacrifice himself?

no

the Sun Eater
http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/dc/bitmaps/suneater.jpg

BRIEF HISTORY
Not much is known about this entity, since every time it visits a world, few people or none is left to talk about it. The only survivor known is named Dusk, and ever since then, preceeds it trying to warn the worlds of the system whose sun is going to be consumed, but she has never thought of recording any data of it.
The Sun-Eater's modus operandi seems to be the following: as it arrives to a suitable star, it wraps around it, leaving no light out of its embrace. The inhabitated worlds of the sun's system are capable of supporting life just for five days. The first day, the temperature drops, and during the second, wind and snowstorms begin all around. Then the crops die, the rainforests die, the oceans freeze and every living being is erradicated from the surface of those planets.
However, things don't last enough for that fate, since the stars begin to expand as a natural way of healing themselves. As the Sun-Eater realize it's in danger, it escapes quickly to space leaving that particular star to burst in a super-nova.
Last time this entity was seen, it was trying to consume the Earth's sun, and unable of doing anything else, humanity asked for help to Parallax, who travelled to the sun, used all his power against his enemy and died as both him and the Sun-Eater exploded in space. It's likely that the entity died as well.

UniOmni
I don't know how Superman would win, but in a DC comic, his hv and icebreath would probably be enough. And Thor stopped Ego, by laying waste to the planets atmosphere with outrageous storms.
Big difference.

Dalak
Batdude, say what you will but Superman is pretty much the superhero with the most wildly contradictory showings in Comic-Book History.

If they have to write him so far beneath what he is capable of so often he's just not that interesting. That's how I see it anyway.

batdude123
Originally posted by Broly92
What the f**k? I said Superman wins but the second thing you said is true

I'm a cool jerk. cool

batdude123
Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't know how Superman would win, but in a DC comic, his hv and icebreath would probably be enough. And Thor stopped Ego, by laying waste to the planets atmosphere with outrageous storms.
Big difference.

And Gladiator did it with a few punches.

batdude123
Originally posted by Dalak
Batdude, say what you will but Superman is pretty much the superhero with the most wildly contradictory showings in Comic-Book History.

If they have to write him so far beneath what he is capable of so often he's just not that interesting. That's how I see it anyway.

Same could be said about the Hulk. wink

Broly92
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm a cool jerk. cool
and I'm a punk rock

Dalak
Originally posted by complexbrother
no

the Sun Eater
http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/dc/bitmaps/suneater.jpg

BRIEF HISTORY
Not much is known about this entity, since every time it visits a world, few people or none is left to talk about it. The only survivor known is named Dusk, and ever since then, preceeds it trying to warn the worlds of the system whose sun is going to be consumed, but she has never thought of recording any data of it.
The Sun-Eater's modus operandi seems to be the following: as it arrives to a suitable star, it wraps around it, leaving no light out of its embrace. The inhabitated worlds of the sun's system are capable of supporting life just for five days. The first day, the temperature drops, and during the second, wind and snowstorms begin all around. Then the crops die, the rainforests die, the oceans freeze and every living being is erradicated from the surface of those planets.
However, things don't last enough for that fate, since the stars begin to expand as a natural way of healing themselves. As the Sun-Eater realize it's in danger, it escapes quickly to space leaving that particular star to burst in a super-nova.
Last time this entity was seen, it was trying to consume the Earth's sun, and unable of doing anything else, humanity asked for help to Parallax, who travelled to the sun, used all his power against his enemy and died as both him and the Sun-Eater exploded in space. It's likely that the entity died as well.

Thank you for celaring that up.

So right now Supes beat a planet that was munching on a star, but not one that has Ego's vast powers. IN that case I'm still up in the air.

UniOmni
Superman and Gladiator aren't exact equals. Supermans average shits on Kallarks, but when Gladiator is good, he's very good. Plus his power is actually dynamic.

And when did Clark ever punch a planet apart??

And not the scan when he flies through a moon. Not the same.

Dalak
Originally posted by batdude123
Same could be said about the Hulk. wink

How often has Superman dealt with Toyman? How often has Hulk been choked by a snake?

Plus Supes has more of a history of it.


j00 jus7 g07 pwn3d1!1!!!!1!!!! Happy Dance

batdude123
Originally posted by Dalak
How often has Superman dealt with Toyman? How often has Hulk been choked by a snake?

Plus Supes has more of a history of it.


j00 jus7 g07 pwn3d1!1!!!!1!!!! Happy Dance

Hence PIS. Happy Dance

Dalak
Originally posted by batdude123
Hence PIS. Happy Dance

Agreed PIS, but we weren't talking about feats and debates. I was making the point because he's a big reason I don't read DC. I still have my favorites that I check out occasionally (Flash and GL) but I don't 'read' it as I do several Marvel Titles.

bigbran
Originally posted by batdude123
Same could be said about the Hulk. wink at least hulk gets beat!!!

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Dalak
Thank you for celaring that up.

So right now Supes beat a planet that was munching on a star, but not one that has Ego's vast powers. IN that case I'm still up in the air.


That's a pretty bad-ass planet if it eats stars. To do that, it's power has to be pretty much off the scales.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7978/suneata6zf.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1426/gosupes7jo.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7818/gosupes28oa.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/550/brainfreeze8za.th.jpg

batdude123
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
That's a pretty bad-ass planet if it eats stars. To do that, it's power has to be pretty much off the scales.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7978/suneata6zf.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1426/gosupes7jo.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7818/gosupes28oa.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/550/brainfreeze8za.th.jpg

I already showed those scans. laughing

Soujaboy
Originally posted by Dalak
Batdude, say what you will but Superman is pretty much the superhero with the most wildly contradictory showings in Comic-Book History.

If they have to write him so far beneath what he is capable of so often he's just not that interesting. That's how I see it anyway.

I agree

bigbran
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
That's a pretty bad-ass planet if it eats stars. To do that, it's power has to be pretty much off the scales.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7978/suneata6zf.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1426/gosupes7jo.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7818/gosupes28oa.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/550/brainfreeze8za.th.jpg all he did was freeze his brain though, its not like he beat him physically.

bigbran
you do realize how bad a brain freeze is right???

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by bigbran
you do realize how bad a brain freeze is right???

Freezing a brain is a physical thing.

Besides, had he beat him with a punch, wouldn't you find that even more absurd?

bigbran
yes, and its not an absurd thing, its an actully believable feat(for once)
he used his brains, not brawn this time, because really it would be retarded if he actully beat him down.

bigbran
but does ego have holes in him like that?

Mr. Universe
Please tell me this is a joke.

darthgoober
Ego

ExtraMision5555
Trunks could do it easy.
So could freiza.

boriquaking55
One of the most pointless (but funny big grin ) threads I've ever seen. Ego 10/10.

Oh, and the Thor and Glad feats against Ego were trash. Absolute garbage PIS, and if people can't see that - well, that's just fanboism at it's greatest. This lunacy has to stop.

Ego would get majority on Superman Prime if PIS is off. He's nigh-abstract level with massive powers beyond any skyfather and probably above Elder god also. This is pathetic - he's way underrated. Putting him against Supes of all people is a slap in the face.

Supreme being
Originally posted by boriquaking55
One of the most pointless (but funny big grin ) threads I've ever seen. Ego 10/10.

Oh, and the Thor and Glad feats against Ego were trash. Absolute garbage PIS, and if people can't see that - well, that's just fanboism at it's greatest. This lunacy has to stop.

Ego would get majority on Superman Prime if PIS is off. He's nigh-abstract level with massive powers beyond any skyfather and probably above Elder god also. This is pathetic - he's way underrated. Putting him against Supes of all people is a slap in the face.

I dont care pis or no pis the planet got punked twice thats marvel saying something. It seems all it takes is a few punches so with that in mind superman for the win.

lando005
Originally posted by Supreme being
I dont care pis or no pis the planet got punked twice thats marvel saying something. It seems all it takes is a few punches so with that in mind superman for the win.
you gotta be kidding me superman beating ego? you might as well say wolverine beats galatucs by himself there really isnt anything sups could do and dont say brain freeze that's just retarded even if it worked it would only slow him down for a few moments ego would probably absorb sups



ego 120/10

Horrificus
Superman wins.
The times Ego has been beaten, haven't ven been close, or in gigantic all-out battles.

Ego is powerful, but he isn't what a lot of noobs think he is.
I have seen him compared to abstract, and have seen Marvel list him as an Elder.
Blah, blah, blah.
His trump of Galactus was a starving G.
Ego is Power and Mass. Thats all.
In this case, superspeed is a plus. Yes, I said it. I hate that I did, but I did.
Supes can just turn Ego into the proverbial Moon that is made out of Swiss Cheese.

lando005
Originally posted by Horrificus
Superman wins.
The times Ego has been beaten, haven't ven been close, or in gigantic all-out battles.

Ego is powerful, but he isn't what a lot of noobs think he is.
I have seen him compared to abstract, and have seen Marvel list him as an Elder.
Blah, blah, blah.
His trump of Galactus was a starving G.
Ego is Power and Mass. Thats all.
In this case, superspeed is a plus. Yes, I said it. I hate that I did, but I did.
Supes can just turn Ego into the proverbial Moon that is made out of Swiss Cheese. that wouldnt stop him not to mention ego has vast psionc power

ExtraMision5555
ego reminds me of the moon on majoras mask


well actually


should be the other way around seeing as ego came first

darthgoober
The funny thing, is that Superman fanboys always look at PIS showings like Ego vs Gladiator or Thor, and say "Well that shows how powerful he really is", but when it comes to things like Supes having a hard time with Toyman(who's alot weaker than Thor or Gladiator), they always say "Well that's a bullsh*t showing, Supes should have creamed him".

This is pathetic, Ego makes Supe his b*tch.

hitemup
Originally posted by Soujaboy
That means what?

it means superman wins

darthgoober
Originally posted by hitemup
it means superman wins
laughing out loud

hitemup
Originally posted by darthgoober
laughing out loud

u honestly think ego can beat superman. how? explain

lando005
Originally posted by hitemup
u honestly think ego can beat superman. how? explain
he could eat him blow him up in a multitude of ways so on and so forth

boriquaking55
Originally posted by hitemup
u honestly think ego can beat superman. how? explain

Ego can drain all of the solar energy from him, mind-rape him, toss him into a quanum singularity, turn him into a carebear, take away his powers and leave him human, smash into him at light speed, teleport him into his core, etc. He could use his imagination and come up with a million ways to kick superman's lame ass. laughing

Supes can't even hold Ego's Handlebar Mustachio.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by hitemup
u honestly think ego can beat superman. how? explain



Rip his clothes off
Pull his pants down
Swallow him, throw up, swallow his half-charred remains
Chastise him
Outgrow him, and then force him to commit adultry
Slam into him (highspeed)
Erase his memory so he doesnt know him anymore, rejuvinate his memory, etc..
Ram into him @ high speed, do something helpful to him, ram into him @ high speed, do something helpful to him (supes would be confused.. etc..) infinite cycle
Lecture him
Evaporate him
Transform him into evaporated milk, stir him into a beverage, drink him. Regurjitate him, swallow his charred remains.
Send him on "vacation"
Read to him (Kryptonians arent very literate)
Challenge him, win.
Challenge him, stalemate.
Tear his clothes off, re assemble them on someone elses body (shamevictory)
Shift the balance from 15 (republican lead) to 12 (Democrat lead)
E

lando005
Originally posted by hitemup
u honestly think ego can beat superman. how? explain explain how sups wins this

Horrificus
Originally posted by darthgoober
The funny thing, is that Superman fanboys always look at PIS showings like Ego vs Gladiator or Thor, and say "Well that shows how powerful he really is", but when it comes to things like Supes having a hard time with Toyman(who's alot weaker than Thor or Gladiator), they always say "Well that's a bullsh*t showing, Supes should have creamed him".

This is pathetic, Ego makes Supe his b*tch.

I can't stand Superman. I just think he beats Ego. Ego is powerful, but he gets beat on a lot, and has been shown to have trouble against these Cosmics. And... everybody else.

But, if it makes you feel better, I think Ego could beat Batman, and maybe Captain America.

olympian
Originally posted by Juntai
Gladiator beat Ego.

Marvel Adventures? I reckon that it migth not be in continuity.

Besides, know how Thor beat Ego the first time? By summoning an *universal type blast* or such.

No shiat.

Horrificus
Originally posted by boriquaking55
One of the most pointless (but funny big grin ) threads I've ever seen. Ego 10/10.

Oh, and the Thor and Glad feats against Ego were trash. Absolute garbage PIS, and if people can't see that - well, that's just fanboism at it's greatest. This lunacy has to stop.

Ego would get majority on Superman Prime if PIS is off. He's nigh-abstract level with massive powers beyond any skyfather and probably above Elder god also. This is pathetic - he's way underrated. Putting him against Supes of all people is a slap in the face.

I don't understand what you guys are talking about.
Where are these immense feats that Ego supposedly has?
What are you drawing from?
If you are going to say that Ego is high-skyfather, or Abstract-level, you have to show Ego doing things that will put him in that class.
You are talking about the class of Odin and Crom, or possibly In-Betweener and Oblivion.
I will gladly agree, but you have to prove first, because this just sounds goofy.

lando005
Originally posted by Horrificus
I don't understand what you guys are talking about.
Where are these immense feats that Ego supposedly has?
What are you drawing from?
If you are going to say that Ego is high-skyfather, or Abstract-level, you have to show Ego doing things that will put him in that class.
You are talking about the class of Odin and Crom, or possibly In-Betweener and Oblivion.
I will gladly agree, but you have to prove first, because this just sounds goofy. ego went toe to....errr ummm crust with big g and held his own not to mention even tho he is not shown on pannel all that much doesnt mean people have an understanding of how powerful he is he's a freakin planet his power levels are off the charts

hitemup
Originally posted by Horrificus
I don't understand what you guys are talking about.
Where are these immense feats that Ego supposedly has?
What are you drawing from?
If you are going to say that Ego is high-skyfather, or Abstract-level, you have to show Ego doing things that will put him in that class.
You are talking about the class of Odin and Crom, or possibly In-Betweener and Oblivion.
I will gladly agree, but you have to prove first, because this just sounds goofy.

i agree. all u guys say that ego could do this and that but wheres the proof.i looked up his powers and abiliteis and all it says is it can possibly move faster than the speed of light and it can change it's terrain to suit the circumstances. the fantastic four(mostly thing) defeated ego and u guys say superman cant. i smell haters. sick

lando005
Originally posted by hitemup
i agree. all u guys say that ego could do this and that but wheres the proof. in a case like EGO a lot of screen time is not needed if tomarrow TOAA shows up roaming around marvel and even LT is afraid of him are you really gonna ask for proof of what he can do? no ofcorse not you have a extreamly powerful being vouching for him same thing with ego galatcus thinks twice befor trying to chow down on him he's a living planet with vast psionic powers to equal his size it's not like he's putting on a big bluff and would collaps with one hit he's just as powerful as he looks

darthgoober
ninja

Symmetric Chaos
Superman flies through him





And gets eaten.

New plan . . . I got nutin'

Juntai
Superman wins.

Blight
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman wins. How?

Juntai
Flying around and punching him into submission?

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Flying around and punching him into submission?
I thought that this was about a NON jobbing Ego?

Juntai
Originally posted by darthgoober
I thought that this was about a NON jobbing Ego? What is that exactly, his one appearance against Galactus, against the wealth of others discussed in the thread?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Juntai
Flying around and punching him into submission?

Why would you punch a planet sized object with complete control of it's molecular structure?

Juntai
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why would you punch a planet sized object with complete control of it's molecular structure? Works for others, why not the one who's arguably the best at it?

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
What is that exactly, his one appearance against Galactus, against the wealth of others discussed in the thread?
What do you mean his ONE appearance against Galactus? He's actually had 2 direct run in's with Big G, and the second ended with Big G retreating due to their power being evenly matched...

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8964/thor22611xg1.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2222/thor22612sl9.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5741/thor22613dc3.jpg

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Juntai
Works for others, why not the one who's arguably the best at it?

Because Ego can attack him with hundreds of independent constructs or tentacles or it could pull him into his surface.

Juntai
Originally posted by darthgoober
What do you mean his ONE appearance against Galactus? He's actually had 2 direct run in's with Big G, and the second ended with Big G retreating due to their power being evenly matched...

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8964/thor22611xg1.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2222/thor22612sl9.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5741/thor22613dc3.jpg Galactus jobs at times, doesn't mean much to me. A guy who can smash solar systems obviously wasn't at the top of his game.

I believe in Surfer volume 3, you realise Galactus is way way way above Ego. Since he teamed up with all the Elders, and were easily foiled.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Galactus jobs at times, doesn't mean much to me. A guy who can smash solar systems obviously wasn't at the top of his game.

And Ego jobs at times as well(such as his being beaten by Gladiator). So where's the proof that Supes can beat a NON jobbing Ego?

Originally posted by Juntai
I believe in Surfer volume 3, you realise Galactus is way way way above Ego.
Where is that established?

Juntai
Originally posted by darthgoober
And Ego jobs at times as well(such as his being beaten by Gladiator). So where's the proof that Supes can beat a NON jobbing Ego?


Where is that established? Wheren't the elders all teamed up to try to take down Galactus, and got foiled by some heralds?
Fantastic 4, someone said in the thread defeated him?
Thor?
Gladiator?

Blight
Wasn't ego counted among the Abstracts in the fight against Thanos during Infinity Gauntlet? I could be wrong on that one but if so... doesn't that alone say something?

Juntai
I dunno, Ego only has a handful of appearances, and I've only seen a few of them. But when high tiers on down give him trouble, and he has a moderately good showing against Galactus. I take Galactus as the exception, rather than the other way.
Superman has a better track record here against powerful foes. He demolishes the top tiers and the cosmic badasses both.
You say, what does he do against a non jobbing Ego?
Well, what does Ego do to a non jobbing Superman, who's record and showings of power far excede his own?

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Wheren't the elders all teamed up to try to take down Galactus, and got foiled by some heralds?
Actually Ego only served as the base of operations for the Elders, he never really DID anything there. He wasn't even present at the final showdown in fact.

Originally posted by Juntai
Fantastic 4, someone said in the thread defeated him?
You mean the same FF that manages to take down Galactus? I'm willing to bet that Reed had some plot device invention that Supes will be lacking for this match.

Originally posted by Juntai
Thor?
PIS. Even if you take that seriously, Thor has magical options available that Supes lacks.

Originally posted by Juntai
Gladiator?
Again, PIS due to the fact that Ego could(and more importantly SHOULD) have used his abilities to heal ANY damage done to his surface that Gladiator managed to inflict via physical force...
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4743/silversurfer198902212fm4.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5130/silversurfer198902213rn7.jpg

Blight
He was a beast in Exiles, as well!

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Well, what does Ego do to a non jobbing Superman, who's record and showings of power far excede his own?
Let's see, he could....

1. Create an army of beings that are Supes equal to combat him.
2. Change his entire landscape into K-Nite.
3. Absorb all the solar energy from Supes.
4. Use magnetic fields the same way that Dr. Polaris did.

Just to name a few.

Juntai
Originally posted by darthgoober
Let's see, he could....

1. Create an army of beings that are Supes equal to combat him.
2. Change his entire landscape into K-Nite.
3. Absorb all the solar energy from Supes.
4. Use magnetic fields the same way that Dr. Polaris did.

Just to name a few. Cool. Show me examples of him doing these type of things. And using them on the fly. So we know it's in character for him to do so. Superman's overcome all of these weaknesses, and it IS in character for him to do so. This is 'non jobbing' right?

He knows the composition of Kryptonite?

Got an example of him creating beings that are Superman's equal?
I very highly doubt that.



As I said before;

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Cool. Show me examples of him doing these type of things. And using them on the fly. So we know it's in character for him to do so. Superman's overcome all of these weaknesses, and it IS in character for him to do so. This is 'non jobbing' right?

He knows the composition of Kryptonite?

Got an example of him creating beings that are Superman's equal?
I very highly doubt that.



As I said before;
Let's see....

1. 1. Create an army of beings that are Supes equal to combat him.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3972/antibodiesmz0.jpg

2. Change his entire landscape into K-Nite.
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/518/mindreadingandtransmutaok9.jpg

3. Absorb all the solar energy from Supes.
I gotta look though my library, but I'll be back with this one soon.

4. Use magnetic fields the same way that Dr. Polaris did.
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/517/silversurfer198902209yd1.jpg

Juntai
http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sm20918ol5.jpg

Badabing
Originally posted by darthgoober
Let's see....

1. 1. Create an army of beings that are Supes equal to combat him.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3972/antibodiesmz0.jpg

2. Change his entire landscape into K-Nite.
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/518/mindreadingandtransmutaok9.jpg

3. Absorb all the solar energy from Supes.
I gotta look though my library, but I'll be back with this one soon.

4. Use magnetic fields the same way that Dr. Polaris did.
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/517/silversurfer198902209yd1.jpg jawdrop Those were some serious scans.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sm20918ol5.jpg
Yes but as I've already shown, those types of disturbances won't put down a NON jobbing Ego...

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4743/silversurfer198902212fm4.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5130/silversurfer198902213rn7.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/518/mindreadingandtransmutaok9.jpg

Juntai
A punch will crack a moon in half. Nothing to suggest he's maxing either. While it might not destroy, Ego would certainly feel it.
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smoonsplittingstrengthvs4.jpg

batdude123
I'll only say this once... if Gladiator, Thor, and Beta Ray Bill can all defeat Ego, then Superman can too.

Badabing
Originally posted by batdude123
I'll only say this once... if Gladiator, Thor, and Beta Ray Bill can all defeat Ego, then Superman can too. dursideup

Juntai
Supes can create storms, similarly to how Ego was beaten by Thor.
He has multiple feats of such. Here's one example.
http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermancreatesstorm2yq7.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermancreatesstorm3fv7.jpg

Juntai
Here's another.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesrex2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesrex3.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesrex4.jpg

Juntai
I can play this scan game all day.

darthgoober
Originally posted by batdude123
I'll only say this once... if Gladiator, Thor, and Beta Ray Bill can all defeat Ego, then Superman can too.
Isn't that the same as saying that if Supes, Firestorm, and Green Lantern can beat Darkseid, then Thor can too?

Juntai
Originally posted by Juntai
I dunno, Ego only has a handful of appearances, and I've only seen a few of them. But when high tiers on down give him trouble, and he has a moderately good showing against Galactus. I take Galactus as the exception, rather than the other way.
Superman has a better track record here against powerful foes. He demolishes the top tiers and the cosmic badasses both.
You say, what does he do against a non jobbing Ego?
Well, what does Ego do to a non jobbing Superman, who's record and showings of power far excede his own? But this is still what it comes down to.

Juntai
Anyways, my UFC 73 Pay Per View is starting.
peace.

batdude123
Originally posted by darthgoober
Isn't that the same as saying that if Supes, Firestorm, and Green Lantern can beat Darkseid, then Thor can too?

When have Firestorm and Green Lantern beaten Darkseid?

Badabing
Originally posted by batdude123
When have Firestorm and Green Lantern beaten Darkseid? He meant that Superman + Green Lantern + Firestorm = Thor. no expression














stick out tongue

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by batdude123
When have Firestorm and Green Lantern beaten Darkseid?

Firestorm redirected the OmegaForce (not the effect) and Raker beat him into the ground.

batdude123
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Firestorm redirected the OmegaForce (not the effect) and Raker beat him into the ground.

Firestorm did that in the Pre-Crisis era. Pre-Crisis Firestorm was pwning the League in those days.

And I'm pretty sure D-Side was holding back against Raker.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
I can play this scan game all day.
But none of the scans you post change the fact that NONE of that will work against a non jobbing Ego. Ego's battles with guys like Gladiator are some of the best examples of PIS I can think of.

No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Let's see now, Ego has shown the ability(and the inclination) to alter and heal his landscape at will during battle, but he doesn't do it when Gladiator is pounding on him.... yeah that sounds like PIS to me.

Now as far as Thor goes, yes Supes can create storms. But Thor is the GOD of storms and can command them at will. I personally consider Thor being able to override Ego's weather system to be PIS also, but even if it was a valid source of evidence Supes being able to create a storm doesn't mean that he can take control of Ego's weather patterns the way that Thor did.

darthgoober
Originally posted by batdude123
Firestorm did that in the Pre-Crisis era. Pre-Crisis Firestorm was pwning the League in those days.

And I'm pretty sure D-Side was holding back against Raker.
Well, Thor's the God of Thunder which lends SOME credit to him being able to override Ego's weather system, and I'm pretty sure that Ego not healing himself after Gladiator punched him was PIS seeing as how he can do it with ease.

Juntai
When losing to top tiers is the norm, and Galactus is the exception, I don't think it's PIS. Probably a lot closer to CIS, which is admissable, given that characters at the tier generally beat him. You exluding what seems to be his average combat outcome as PIS is rediculous at best.

Back to my pay per view.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
When losing to top tiers is the norm, and Galactus is the exception, I don't think it's PIS. Probably a lot closer to CIS, which is admissable, given that characters at the tier generally beat him. You exluding what seems to be his average combat outcome as PIS is rediculous at best.

Back to my pay per view.
Doesn't Flash's average combat showings have him getting tagged by people FAR slower than he is? Does that make those instances legitimate? Ego has shown the ability to heal/alter himself at will in almost EVERY appearance he's ever made. In fact, I can't think of a time other than his run in with Gladiator that he DIDN'T heal himself when he was injured. His showings against Thor and Beta Ray Bill are inconsequential because both of those characters have a magical advantage going for them that Supes lacks.

You are clinging to a SINGLE instance of some hurting Ego the way that Gladiator did, when I've shown several things to indicate the instance as PIS. You can't go by the ABC logic that just because Thor was able to pull a win against Ego that Supes will as well, because Supes lacks the ability to override Ego's weather systems. All Supes could do would be to create a storm, which Ego could easily disperse.

The fact is that there is NO logical way for Supes to put Ego down, while there are countless ways that Ego could take Supes down.

Avalonofthewind
Wasn't Ego afraid of crashing into the sun?

And come on guys..It was blatantly obvious that DG had an ulterior motive by resurrecting this ancient and near insignificant thread.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Wasn't Ego afraid of crashing into the sun?

And come on guys..It was blatantly obvious that DG had an ulterior motive by resurrecting this ancient and near insignificant thread.
That was a weakened Ego.

At his best Ego can withstand the fire of a thousand suns...
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2023/galactusblast1rv5.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2073/galactusblast2mf3.jpg


And what's wrong with me bumping a thread that's been dead for a while? There were still a lot of unanswered questions that I now happen to have evidence on so I bumped it to show that evidence off and correct a lot of common misconceptions. Why should you(or anyone else) have a problem with that?

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by darthgoober
That was a weakened Ego.

At his best Ego can withstand the fire of a thousand suns...
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2023/galactusblast1rv5.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2073/galactusblast2mf3.jpg

LOL @ stopping Galactus weapon with a sheet of ice. Anyway..back to topic.

50x Supernova >>> the fire of a thousand Suns.

1 Black Hole >>>> 1 Thousand Suns.

1 Thousand Suns wouldn't hurt Superman either...especially when he's taken the power of a million suns and returned it just fine.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3487/manofsteel130p13kp2.th.jpg

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6300/manofsteel130p14vp7.th.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4825/manofsteel130p15jn4.th.jpg

darthgoober
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
LOL @ stopping Galactus weapon with a sheet of ice. Anyway..back to topic.

50x Supernova >>> the fire of a thousand Suns.

1 Black Hole >>>> 1 Thousand Suns.

1 Thousand Suns wouldn't hurt Superman either...especially when he's taken the power of a million suns and returned it just fine.
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9615/manofsteel130p13ub0.th.jpghttp://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6300http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4825/manofsteel130p15jn4.th.jpgmanofsteel130p14vp7.th.jpg
I never said anything about Supes not being able to withstand stars(they're his power source after all), you asked about Ego and the sun so I showed you that he was weakened. You've still yet to show what Supes could do to take down Ego, and I've already listed several ways for Ego to take down Supes.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by darthgoober
That was a weakened Ego.

At his best Ego can withstand the fire of a thousand suns...
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2023/galactusblast1rv5.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2073/galactusblast2mf3.jpg


And what's wrong with me bumping a thread that's been dead for a while? There were still a lot of unanswered questions that I now happen to have evidence on so I bumped it to show that evidence off and correct a lot of common misconceptions. Why should you(or anyone else) have a problem with that?

Besides the fact that that you blatantly ressurected it to try and goad people?

Post a ninja smiley...wait patiently for a poster to say "Supes wins!" and then come with your newly acquired scans? wink

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by darthgoober
I never said anything about Supes not being able to withstand stars(they're his power source after all), you asked about Ego and the sun so I showed you that he was weakened. You've still yet to show what Supes could do to take down Ego, and I've already listed several ways for Ego to take down Supes.

Actually, Juntai has shown and the thread has shown more than enough ways.
Your scans haven't even shown Ego being in Superman's league yet... He effortlessly froze a planet much bigger than Ego munching on a sun. The Elementals of Earth itself which would have exactly the same abilities as Ego itself backed down knowing that they wouldn't stopped a determined Superman, and Superman himself can crack a planet in half with a punch without maxing out.

Ego has lost to Glads, Thor, SS, and nearly died in a sun...it took him a bit of power to overcome a jetpack on his back.


There isn't much to say about this topic...so I'll leave it as is for now.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Besides the fact that that you blatantly ressurected it to try and goad people?

Post a ninja smiley...wait patiently for a poster to say "Supes wins!" and then come with your newly acquired scans? wink
Hey I said long ago that Ego wins this in a stomp. Then people started asking for proof which I didn't have at the time, so I left the thread alone. But now that I HAVE that proof, I figured I'd bump the thread and provide proof as people asked for it. Again, what's wrong with that?

darthgoober
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Actually, Juntai has shown and the thread has shown more than enough ways.
Yes but none of the ways he listed could logically take down a non jobbing Ego.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Your scans haven't even shown Ego being in Superman's league yet...
You mean that the scans I posted that showed Ego to be on par with Galactus's don't prove that he's in Supes's league confused ?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He effortlessly froze a planet much bigger than Ego munching on a sun.
And what will his freezing Ego accomplish exactly? As I've already shown Ego can create and withstand a MASSIVE amount of ice.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The Elementals of Earth itself which would have exactly the same abilities as Ego itself backed down knowing that they wouldn't stopped a determined Superman,
Proof that the Elementals are capable of EVERYTHING that Ego is?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
and Superman himself can crack a planet in half with a punch without maxing out.
Really? Has he ever cracked a living planet that's on par with Galactus with the ability to heal itself at will in half with a punch?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ego has lost to Glads, Thor, SS, and nearly died in a sun...it took him a bit of power to overcome a jetpack on his back.
Ok let's see...

I already proved that Glads taking down Ego was PISs.

Thor has magical options availible to him that Supes lacks. Also Thor didn't beat Ego solo, he just distracted Ego while Galactus attached that machine to him.

Surfer bested a weakened Ego via plot device.

And I already showed that Ego was weakened during the Sun incident.

Juntai
I dunno, showing that he has some versatility, and calling all his fights besides a showing against Galactus PIS doesn't solidify a win for me.

Lots of characters seem versatile enough to handle Superman. Application, adaptation, keeping the pressure, and most of all finishing are quintessential pieces of combat. While both characters have great power, all those of categories belong to Superman.

Now I'm not saying Ego can't win, I'm just leaning towards Superman. In the idea that Supes has been in the situations presented and passed the tests, while Ego continuiously get beaten by characters of a similar tier.

Tyrant
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
50x Supernova >>> the fire of a thousand Suns.

1 Black Hole >>>> 1 Thousand Suns.
Eh?

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
I dunno, showing that he has some versatility, and calling all his fights besides a showing against Galactus PIS doesn't solidify a win for me.

Lots of characters seem versatile enough to handle Superman. Application, adaptation, keeping the pressure, and most of all finishing are quintessential pieces of combat. While both characters have great power, all those of categories belong to Superman.

Now I'm not saying Ego can't win, I'm just leaning towards Superman. In the idea that Supes has been in the situations presented and passed the tests, while Ego continuiously get beaten by characters of a similar tier.
You're acting as if all those herald level characters have strait up victories over Ego, but they don't. Thor didn't actually beat Ego, he just distracted him for long enough for Galactus to attach that propulsion device. And again, Thor is the God of Thunder and has a level of control over the weather that Supes lacks, so Supes won't be anywhere near as effective as Thor was in that instance. Surfer didn't actually beat Ego either, he just charged up that propulsion device to reactivate it. Ego was weakened from having to fight against that device, which is why he would have been destroyed by the Sun.

To my knowledge, Gladiator is the only herald level character that has an actual victory over Ego. So if you weigh that ONE showing against Ego's TWO showings against Galactus, it lends quite a bit of support to the opinion that his fight against Glads was nothing more than PIS.

Juntai
Who does Ego have definitive victories over?

Tyrant
Originally posted by Juntai
Who does Ego have definitive victories over? He KO'ed Thor with an indirect attack...ermm

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Who does Ego have definitive victories over?
Originally posted by Tyrant
He KO'ed Thor with an indirect attack...ermm
And technically, he has a win over Galactus also since Big G retreated to get help from Thor and Herc.

Magee
Galactus retreated to get help from Thor and Hercules. laughing

Juntai
Originally posted by Magee
Galactus retreated to get help from Thor and Hercules. laughing laughing out loud

darthgoober
Originally posted by Magee
Galactus retreated to get help from Thor and Hercules. laughing
Originally posted by Juntai
laughing out loud
It's true. That's when Thor's supposed "victory" took place. Galactus wanted Thor, Herc, and Firelord to distract Ego long enough for Big G to attach a propulsion device to the Elder.

Juntai
I understand it's what happened, but you realise how rediculous it is, right?

Funny how you call his losses PIS, and stand by a showing of Galactus running away from Ego to get help from Thor. Apperently, you're confused as to what PIS actually is.

The fire of a thousand suns is also obviously nothing more than hyperbole.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
I understand it's what happened, but you realise how rediculous it is, right?

Funny how you call his losses PIS, and stand by a showing of Galactus running away from Ego to get help from Thor. Apperently, you're confused as to what PIS actually is.

The fire of a thousand suns is also obviously nothing more than hyperbole.
As I've already explained, Galactus got help to DISTRACT Ego while Galactus attached the propulsion device. Since Thor was able to override Ego's weather systems, Thor just happened to be the best one to do that.

And why do you automatically want to dismiss the fire of a thousand suns as hyperbole? Galactus seems to be a creditable source of info on the power behind his own attacks, and he's not really the type that's given to exaggeration.

Juntai
Originally posted by darthgoober
As I've already explained, Galactus got help to DISTRACT Ego while Galactus attached the propulsion device. Since Thor was able to override Ego's weather systems, Thor just happened to be the best one to do that.

And why do you automatically want to dismiss the fire of a thousand suns as hyperbole? Galactus seems to be a creditable source of info on the power behind his own attacks, and he's not really the type that's given to exaggeration. Because a planet engulfed by the fire of a thousand suns would cease to exist. No covering the planet with ice will work in that occasion. There's simply not enough cold he could ever generate. If for example, Pluto, a whole planet of ice falls into our single sun, it will simply cease to be. It's a rediculous moment, easily as rediculous as Galactus needing Thor for help.


Originally posted by Juntai
I understand it's what happened, but you realise how rediculous it is, right?

Funny how you call his losses PIS, and stand by a showing of Galactus running away from Ego to get help from Thor. Apperently, you're confused as to what PIS actually is.

The fire of a thousand suns is also obviously nothing more than hyperbole.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Because a planet engulfed by the fire of a thousand suns would cease to exist. No covering the planet with ice will work in that occasion. There's simply not enough cold he could ever generate. If for example, Pluto, a whole planet of ice falls into our single sun, it will simply cease to be. It's a rediculous moment, easily as rediculous as Galactus needing Thor for help.
A regular planet....yes. But then again we're not talking about a regular planet now are we? By the same token, a regular man would be incinerated long before he was able to physically touch the surface of the Sun. But a SUPER man might be able to do just that without to much trouble wink .

And again, Galactus just wanted someone to distract Ego. Thor is the God of Thunder and has a history with Ego, so he served well in that regard. And now that Thor is no longer usable as an example of how Supes could put down Ego(seeing as how all he did was distract Ego) all you're left with is your ONE example of Ego being taken down by Gladiator, which is offset by Ego's TWO impressive showings against Galactus.

So again, how can Supes POSSIBLY put Ego down when anything Supes does to Ego can be repaired at will?

Juntai
Lots of options have already been shown here. Supes describing how he can tear a apart a world and it's eco system. Supes talking about how he can crack a moon in half with a blow, Ego would certainly feel that. There's lots of options. The idea that you're ignoring/dismissing or claiming PIS all over the thread, doesn't change any of that.

You're clinging to a showing of Galactus needing help from Thor, and claiming Ego's losses are the PIS ones. That doesn't go a very long way towards proving he's a definitive winner here. It just shows that you're stubbornly clinging to a showing where he's portrayed as more than he is. Likewise, I could easily be doing the same with Superman beating Imperiex, Dominus, Blaze and tons of others. And in each of these, unlike Ego, he actually has definintive credible wins. Maybe I'll go around throwing up hyperbole and a random good showing from Supes and claiming he can beat Galactus too?

You're right, it's not a regular planet. But he stopped the fire of a thousand suns with regular cold - an impossible task. Clearly hyperbole, but we can except as much from a comic where Galactus needs anything at all from Thor. Comparing regular cold stopping the heat of a thousand suns to a guy who we know absorbs star energy as a power source doing that very thing is vastly different circumstance.
On one hand we have.
Cold stopping him from taking damage after being fully engulfed the fire of a thousand suns.
A solar funnel/battery -- storing/funneling solar energy.
See the difference?

Superman's record against beings similar to Ego, or even more powerful, is not only more plentiful, but he also has definitive wins over them and at a higher percentage than Ego has in his known comic history over beings of any calibre.

Galactus running away from Ego to get help from Thor is the PIS if anything in the thread is, I don't see what you don't get about that. Regardless of the part he played, Galactus shouldn't have needed him at all, and it takes away from the credibility of Galactus' power level, and the the story overall.

You feel Ego can win, I can respect that -- but you said it's a stomp. I'm just trying to show you it isn't. It's certainly up for grabs. Superman has consistantly defeated threats like Ego, while Ego can has had problems with guys like Superman. It's not hard to put two ideas together and understand that Superman certainly can defeat Ego.

batdude123
Originally posted by darthgoober
Since Thor was able to override Ego's weather systems, Thor just happened to be the best one to do that.

How can Thor override his weather controlling abilities when Ego is Galactus level in power according to you?

Also, I'm pretty sure Beta Ray Bill has defeated Ego as well.

This is pretty interesting, because apparently Ego is the weakest most powerful character in comics.

Juntai
Originally posted by batdude123
How can Thor override his weather controlling abilities when Ego is Galactus level in power according to you? Because he's not.

batdude123
Originally posted by Juntai
Because he's not.

Bingo.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Lots of options have already been shown here. Supes describing how he can tear a apart a world and it's eco system. Supes talking about how he can crack a moon in half with a blow, Ego would certainly feel that. There's lots of options. The idea that you're ignoring/dismissing or claiming PIS all over the thread, doesn't change any of that.

You're clinging to a showing of Galactus needing help from Thor, and claiming Ego's losses are the PIS ones. That doesn't go a very long way towards proving he's a definitive winner here. It just shows that you're stubbornly clinging to a showing where he's portrayed as more than he is. Likewise, I could easily be doing the same with Superman beating Imperiex, Dominus, Blaze and tons of others. And in each of these, unlike Ego, he actually has definintive credible wins. Maybe I'll go around throwing up hyperbole and a random good showing from Supes and claiming he can beat Galactus too?

You're right, it's not a regular planet. But he stopped the fire of a thousand suns with regular cold - an impossible task. Clearly hyperbole, but we can except as much from a comic where Galactus needs anything at all from Thor. Comparing regular cold stopping the heat of a thousand suns to a guy who we know absorbs star energy as a power source doing that very thing is vastly different circumstance.
On one hand we have.
Cold stopping him from taking damage after being fully engulfed the fire of a thousand suns.
A solar funnel/battery -- storing/funneling solar energy.
See the difference?

Superman's record against beings similar to Ego, or even more powerful, is not only more plentiful, but he also has definitive wins over them and at a higher percentage than Ego has in his known comic history over beings of any calibre.

Galactus running away from Ego to get help from Thor is the PIS if anything in the thread is, I don't see what you don't get about that. Regardless of the part he played, Galactus shouldn't have needed him at all, and it takes away from the credibility of Galactus' power level, and the the story overall.

You feel Ego can win, I can respect that -- but you said it's a stomp. I'm just trying to show you it isn't. It's certainly up for grabs. Superman has consistently defeated threats like Ego, while Ego can has had problems with guys like Superman. It's not hard to put two ideas together and understand that Superman certainly can defeat Ego.
Again, you're acting as if Ego consistently loses to herald level characters in strait up combat, and that's untrue.

Thor- Never beat Ego, all he did was distract him long enough for Galactus to finish his work.

Surfer- Beat Ego via plot device(Galactus's propulsion device).

Gladiator- Beat Ego in a way that contradicts EVERY other appearance of Ego.

So I don't HAVE to say that the majority of Ego's losses have been PIS, because there's really only ONE loss that needs to be accounted for.

Let see, what can Supes do....

1. Tear up his atmosphere....wait that won't work because Ego has ample transmutation abilities to repair anything Supes does. Not to mention the fact that Ego doesn't really breath, so losing his atmosphere won't mean shit.

2. Heatvision his surface...wait that won't work because Ego's already been shown TWICE to be able to counter Galactus's cosmic fire.

3. Crack him in half with a punch...wait that won't work because Ego has not only taken Galactus's best shots, he can also alter/repair his landscape at will.

I'm not saying that Supes can't damage Ego, I'm saying that it won't matter because Ego can repair any damage that Supes actually managed to inflict. And you're acting as if Ego's just going to be hanging around while Supes is trying to take him out. It's completely within Ego's capabilities to fill his entire atmosphere with K-Nite particles, or create an army of beings that are Supes equal, or go after Supes telepathically, etc. Face it, there's just no logical way for Supes to win this, and your clinging to the notion that Supes can win because he's beaten people more powerful than he in the past, is no different than a Hulk fan saying that Hulk has a legitimate chance against Supes because Hulk's tagged speedsters in the past, and Supes has been hit by people without superhuman speed.

darthgoober
Originally posted by batdude123
How can Thor override his weather controlling abilities when Ego is Galactus level in power according to you?

Also, I'm pretty sure Beta Ray Bill has defeated Ego as well.

This is pretty interesting, because apparently Ego is the weakest most powerful character in comics.
Because Thor is the God of Thunder and his hammer is backed by a powerful skyfather. I don't really see the sense in it either, but that's the way it was written. I really consider it to be the same as Storm taking down Trion in their own dimension because she's the Mistress of Storms. But no matter how you look at it, there's NO WAY Supes would be able to accomplish the same. It may be true that Supes can create weather disturbances, but there's no way he can CONTROL the weather the way that Thor does.

Juntai
Beta Ray Bill causes Ego to get hit with a comet.
http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=korvacquestpart02thoranep2.jpg
And he is defeated "You have triumphed again."
http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=korvacquestpart02thorannual1657qi2.jpg
And the blow weakned him to such a condition he could no longer fight.

Hmm, I wonder if Gladiator, or Superman could hit that hard...

batdude123
Originally posted by darthgoober
Because Thor is the God of Thunder and his hammer is backed by a powerful skyfather.

Regardless, according to your logic, that should still make it enormous PIS considering Galactus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mjolnir.

Funny.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Juntai
Beta Ray Bill causes Ego to get hit with a comet.
http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=korvacquestpart02thoranep2.jpg
And he is defeated "You have triumphed again."
http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=korvacquestpart02thorannual1657qi2.jpg
And the blow weakned him to such a condition he could no longer fight.

Hmm, I wonder if Gladiator, or Superman could hit that hard...
What does that show exactly? That Supes might be able to hit Ego with a comet while Ego is distracted? He won't be destracted in a forum fight. And Beta wining with a comet is obviously BS due to the fact that Ego can withstand far more than a single comet...

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1599/galactusblast4ii6.jpg
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4897/galactusblast5rw9.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8964/thor22611xg1.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2222/thor22612sl9.jpg

Juntai
Originally posted by Juntai
Beta Ray Bill causes Ego to get hit with a comet.
http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=korvacquestpart02thoranep2.jpg
And he is defeated "You have triumphed again."
http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=korvacquestpart02thorannual1657qi2.jpg
And the blow weakned him to such a condition he could no longer fight.

Hmm, I wonder if Gladiator, or Superman could hit that hard... Wait, maybe. . .

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3034/ego067lu.jpg
Oh yah, punches from Gladiator can blunt force trauma him too.

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