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No Binary power levels. Fight takes place in New York. Carol isn't allowed to fly higher than the tallest buildings.

Who wins?

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Ms Marvel

Thing

She only lifts 50 tons

Why all the limits on Carol's powers? Anyway she beats him (badly) takes all his powers and goes on a date with Johnny.

Carol takes Thing. All she needs to do is absorb his energy and hit him with a couple hundred of his own punches.

Ms. Marvel beats down Thing with his own power.

WTF?!?!?

Thing dosent have any energy people

Ben wins 8/10

Originally posted by Grimm22
WTF?!?!?

Thing dosent have any energy people

Ben wins 8/10

Really so he doesn't move... She absorbs all forms of energy if I'm not mistaken including kinetic... she can absorb his punches and use them against him.

And still, her speed and strength would overcome Ben, in my opinion.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
And still, her speed and strength would overcome Ben, in my opinion.

Her strength isnt in the leauge to hurt Ben

And Ben will eventually overcome her speed

Originally posted by nimbus006
Really so he doesn't move... She absorbs all forms of energy if I'm not mistaken including kinetic... she can absorb his punches and use them against him.

So now she's Sebastion Shaw?!?

Umm no but i believe she can perform such a feat.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Umm no but i believe she can perform such a feat.

Scans? Proof?

She absorbed the Collectivists energy in New Avengers 18 or 19 i think and retained her powers as Binary although it was for a short period.

Its one of her powers Grimm... to absorb forms of energy. She has stated this on several occasions in her own series and in New Avengers.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Its one of her powers Grimm... to absorb forms of energy. She has stated this on several occasions in her own series and in New Avengers.

I know that

However energy and kinetic energy are two completly different things

Originally posted by Grimm22


However energy and kinetic energy are two completly different things


Did you read what you wrote before you submitted that

Originally posted by Soleran
Did you read what you wrote before you submitted that

yes

LOL... no i think kinetic energy is a form of energy, but i could be wrong.

Im just saying that she has never shown to absorb KINETIC energy

I know what your saying.. I'm j/k but even she can't which I'm pretty sure she can, she can still blast him with a concussive force, or go toe to toe with him h2h. Or abosrb a nuclear power plant's energy and release it on Thing.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Her strength isnt in the leauge to hurt Ben

And Ben will eventually overcome her speed

Spidey's strength isn't in the league to hurt Hulk. And yet, he's done it.

Northstar's strength isn't in the league to hurt Hulk. And yet, he's done it, too.

And how, praytell will Ben overcome her speed?

Hold on though... Carols strength is on par with Thing's. Maybe she is a little bit weaker, but she can augment her strength kind of like cosmics. Besides that yea how is Ben going to overcome her speed and Concussive blasts.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Hold on though... Carols strength is on par with Thing's. Maybe she is a little bit weaker, but she can augment her strength kind of like cosmics. Besides that yea how is Ben going to overcome her speed and Concussive blasts. Co-signed. If Carol isn't equal in class to Ben, she's still close enough to KO him.

Ben will put up a good fight here, lay the Ms. on her butt a couple times, but Carol has the strength, durability, speed, HtH skills, and ranged attacks to ultimately beat him.

Ms. Marvel 7/10.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Co-signed. If Carol isn't equal in class to Ben, she's still close enough to KO him.

Ben will put up a good fight here, lay the Ms. on her butt a couple times, but Carol has the strength, durability, speed, HtH skills, and ranged attacks to ultimately beat him.

Ms. Marvel 7/10.

Agreed.