Blade vs Captain America

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Francisco
Blade has an adamantium sword and Capt. America has his shield.
The fight takes place on the rooftops of Manhattan.
Who takes it?

snoopdogg
Blade is very underrated on these forums. Blade can give Cap a run for his money imo.

Dinalfos
Cap's jobber/PIS/CIS aura makes this a little hard to decide. He shouldn't technically stand a chance, but he has beaten guys like him in the comcs.

But still, my gut tells me that Blade should win this.

braz
Blade.

rotiart
Cap. Cap. Cap. Blade has never faced off against opponents like Cap has. Blade has never fought Hyde, Hulk, Namor, Ironman, Taskmaster, US Agent, Shield, Hydra, AIM, Terrax.

Cap wins.

thedude1948
Cap destroys Blade 8/10

MJOILNIR
I think Cap will take the majority but Blade could take some. He is underrated somewhat.

Soljer
While I admit that Blade is underrated, I seriously doubt his ability to tackle Cap.

Francisco
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade is very underrated on these forums. Blade can give Cap a run for his money imo. What's up dog? Don't you trust in the evidence you placed on that Respcet Blade thread of yours? Blade can do impressive stuff.

First of all Blade is at least class 3 tones in the strenght department and he has been alive for over 70 years. 58 of which he has been fighting vampires and other demons. On his bios it says that he has mastered every single weapon known to man and that he is a master in several forms of hand to hand combat.

If the story was written properly Blade should take Cap at least 7 out of 10 battles. IMO.

braz
Originally posted by Francisco
What's up dog? Don't you trust in the evidence you placed on that Respcet Blade thread of yours? Blade can do impressive stuff.

First of all Blade is at least class 3 tones in the strenght department and he has been alive for over 70 years. 58 of which he has been fighting vampires and other demons. On his bios it says that he has mastered every single weapon known to man and that he is a master in several forms of hand to hand combat.

If the story was written properly Blade should take Cap at least 7 out of 10 battles. IMO.

yes

grey fox
Originally posted by Francisco
What's up dog? Don't you trust in the evidence you placed on that Respcet Blade thread of yours? Blade can do impressive stuff.

First of all Blade is at least class 3 tones in the strenght department and he has been alive for over 70 years. 58 of which he has been fighting vampires and other demons. On his bios it says that he has mastered every single weapon known to man and that he is a master in several forms of hand to hand combat.

If the story was written properly Blade should take Cap at least 7 out of 10 battles. IMO.

Cap is possibly 4 tons and could be higher from what his feats show us.

'Mastered every single weapon known to man' laughing
So he can use the ultimate nullifier ? A Skrull pistol ? What about the 'Kree ultimate weapon'.

Lets see....

Cap can keep up with Beast while under a hangover , now correct me if i'm wrong but Blade can't touch Beast when it comes to speed and agility.

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica261p054kw.jpg

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica261p077qy.jpg

Taking several punches from Powerman (who's WAY out of Blades league)

http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1021164ds.jpg

Let's see....bullet proof skin , Class ten strength and all the training cap has had, surely US Agent has this in the bag ?

http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384172wt.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384183ph.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384219qu.jpg

http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384223ac.jpg

...nope.

This Skrull took a punch from Thing and didn't flinch , he get's ko'd by cap.
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol307173vr.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol307202pc.jpg


Cap pwns blade so much it wouldn't even be a fight , more like a one sided ass kicking.

soxfn89
Blade is an impressive martial artist with years of training. His skillwith a sword is impresive. But cap is cap. he has gone up against opponents he shouldn't have beaten and won. so i give cap 7/10

Francisco
Originally posted by grey fox
Cap is possibly 4 tons and could be higher from what his feats show us.

'Mastered every single weapon known to man' laughing
So he can use the ultimate nullifier ? A Skrull pistol ? What about the 'Kree ultimate weapon'.

Lets see....

Cap can keep up with Beast while under a hangover , now correct me if i'm wrong but Blade can't touch Beast when it comes to speed and agility.

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica261p054kw.jpg

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica261p077qy.jpg

Taking several punches from Powerman (who's WAY out of Blades league)

http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1021164ds.jpg

Let's see....bullet proof skin , Class ten strength and all the training cap has had, surely US Agent has this in the bag ?

http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384172wt.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384183ph.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384219qu.jpg

http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384223ac.jpg

...nope.

This Skrull took a punch from Thing and didn't flinch , he get's ko'd by cap.
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol307173vr.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol307202pc.jpg


Cap pwns blade so much it wouldn't even be a fight , more like a one sided ass kicking.

Captain America can't bench 4 tons he is a peak human he can bench between 800 to 1100 pounds not more.

US Agent is not as well trained as Blade plus he is a jobber. He never fights smartly and he makes a lot of mistakes. Blade would smoke his butt easily.

Was that Super Skrull or just a regular skrull? Are Skrulls supposed to be that strong after they're forced to return to their true forms?


Who is Beast?
BP has surpassed Beast's agility several times!
So has Dare Devil and Wolverine!

Blade has leaped so high and moved so fast that his opponents who happen to be faster than peak human thought he was flying and that time has slowed down.

What's the difficult on using a Skrull pistol or a ultimate nullifier. You just pull the trigger. Anyway I assume that when they talk abotu mastering all weapons known to man they're talking about swords, knives and stuff like that.


Hell when he was just a normal guy with immunity to vampire bites he was fighting creatures that dwarfed him on strength and durability yet he managed to kill a lot of them

As I said before may this battle be written properly and Blade would beat Cap within every inch of his body. Blade 7/10.

bakerboy
Please, beast's agility is miles away from Wolverine's. Daredevil's and Black Panther's are close, but not in the same level than beast. Only spidey and night crawler could be as agile as beast is.

Francisco
Originally posted by bakerboy
Please, beast's agility is miles away from Wolverine's. Daredevil's and Black Panther's are close, but not in the same level than beast. Only spidey and night crawler could be as agile as beast is.

Daredevil and Bp are more agile than Beast and it was shown several times when the Panther trained in the Avengers training room.
Hell Bp even defeated Beast when they fought on agility alone. He sent Beast flying through a wall brick with ease.
Anyway Beast agility doesn't matter at all on this topic. Blade is faster, stronger, more agile and more experienced than Cap given the fact that he has been alive longer. Over 70 years alive baby, while Cap was frozen since the end of WWII.

bakerboy
Originally posted by Francisco
Daredevil and Bp are more agile than Beast and it was shown several times when the Panther trained in the Avengers training room.
Hell Bp even defeated Beast when they fought on agility alone. He sent Beast flying through a wall brick with ease.
Anyway Beast agility doesn't matter at all on this topic. Blade is faster, stronger, more agile and more experienced than Cap given the fact that he has been alive longer. Over 70 years alive baby, while Cap was frozen since the end of WWII.

Man, beast is not human. Daredevil and black panther are very athletic men, but they are human. Beast has superhuman strenght and agilty, daredevil and black panther are human peak. The difference is very clear. Beast IS more agile than daredevil and panther. Only spider man and nightcrawler are in the same level of beast.

Francisco
I'm going for what I see in the comics. BP is stated to be faster and more agile than Cap. Plus when him and Beast had their fight Beast said that BP could match him on agility and then BP sent him flying through a brick wall.

Francisco
Plus no one is at the same level of Spider-Man in agility. The only one coming close is Vamped Blade.

bakerboy
Originally posted by Francisco
I'm going for what I see in the comics. BP is stated to be faster and more agile than Cap. Plus when him and Beast had their fight Beast said that BP could match him on agility and then BP sent him flying through a brick wall.

Well, i have seen spider man sent the thing and the hulk flying throught away, and that doesnt mean than spidey is stronger than both.

I have seen too many times beast doing the same thing that spidey or crawller in agility terms.

And not, beast and night crawler are in the same level of spider man, more agile than vamped blade.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by Francisco
What's up dog? Don't you trust in the evidence you placed on that Respcet Blade thread of yours? Blade can do impressive stuff.

First of all Blade is at least class 3 tones in the strenght department and he has been alive for over 70 years. 58 of which he has been fighting vampires and other demons. On his bios it says that he has mastered every single weapon known to man and that he is a master in several forms of hand to hand combat.

If the story was written properly Blade should take Cap at least 7 out of 10 battles. IMO. Well if we go by the evidence I put in Blades respect forum I think he can take Cap 7/10.

Blades faster, stronger, better durability etc.

Blade is a obscure character but he has the tools to beat Cap.

Francisco
Originally posted by bakerboy
Well, i have seen spider man sent the thing and the hulk flying throught away, and that doesnt mean than spidey is stronger than both.

I have seen too many times beast doing the same thing that spidey or crawller in agility terms.

And not, beast and night crawler are in the same level of spider man, more agile than vamped blade.

I'm not claiming he is stronger than the Hulk or Thing.

I suggest you to go and check Blade's respect thread so you can see him in action.

Brutacus
Originally posted by grey fox
Cap is possibly 4 tons and could be higher from what his feats show us.

'Mastered every single weapon known to man' laughing
So he can use the ultimate nullifier ? A Skrull pistol ? What about the 'Kree ultimate weapon'.

Lets see....

Cap can keep up with Beast while under a hangover , now correct me if i'm wrong but Blade can't touch Beast when it comes to speed and agility.

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica261p054kw.jpg

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica261p077qy.jpg

Taking several punches from Powerman (who's WAY out of Blades league)

http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1021164ds.jpg

Let's see....bullet proof skin , Class ten strength and all the training cap has had, surely US Agent has this in the bag ?

http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384172wt.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384183ph.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384219qu.jpg

http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv384223ac.jpg

...nope.

This Skrull took a punch from Thing and didn't flinch , he get's ko'd by cap.
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol307173vr.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol307202pc.jpg


Cap pwns blade so much it wouldn't even be a fight , more like a one sided ass kicking.


hmmm you make it sound like cap is more agile than beast??

bakerboy
Originally posted by Francisco
I'm not claiming he is stronger than the Hulk or Thing.

I suggest you to go and check Blade's respect thread so you can see him in action.

Dude, i wasnt talking about blade in that one. I was saying that spidey has sent fly away people like the hulk or the thing and it doesnt means that he is stronger than hulk or thing.

I have read tons of blade comics, he is very good. Very atlethic, very good fighter, very strong, a sword master, etc. But in agility terms, he is not like beast, spiderman, nightcrawler, captain america, daredevil or black panther.

Jyppe
What kinda logic is that? Spider-man only needs to be strong enough to lift Hulk or Thing. He's lot faster and more agile that they could react to being thrown away.

Now, it's lot different against someone nearly agile as you are. If Beast was indeed more agile and faster than BP, BP wouldn't have owned him.

Besides, we've seen what Beast's agility and other advantages become when he's up against people with high jobber auras. (Ie Wolverine, Captain America)

IMO Cap is bit more skilled in hand to hand combat than Blade, but Blade makes it up with his weapons. IMO this is quite fair match. I could see it go either way. So it's 6/10 for both of them, depending of course.

General Kon-El
Blade wins 5/10

bakerboy
Originally posted by Jyppe
What kinda logic is that? Spider-man only needs to be strong enough to lift Hulk or Thing. He's lot faster and more agile that they could react to being thrown away.

Now, it's lot different against someone nearly agile as you are. If Beast was indeed more agile and faster than BP, BP wouldn't have owned him.

Besides, we've seen what Beast's agility and other advantages become when he's up against people with high jobber auras. (Ie Wolverine, Captain America)

IMO Cap is bit more skilled in hand to hand combat than Blade, but Blade makes it up with his weapons. IMO this is quite fair match. I could see it go either way. So it's 6/10 for both of them, depending of course.

Dude, spiderman not only needs to be strong enough to lift hulk or thing. We are talking about guys who can lift 100 tons or nearly, to lift one of those guys and send them fly away needs to be very strong. But it doesnt means that he is STRONGER than those guys.

Beast feats of agily are so inpressive than only spidey or crawler could equal him in those terms. Black panther , maybe sometimes he could be almost as agile as beast.

Also, i see that cap's agility is very underrated. He is nearly daredevil or panther in agility terms, if not equal. Wolverine isnt as agile as those guys.

And talking about this particular match, i say cap wins. Blade is pretty good, and is stronger than cap, but cap is a master in several kind of figting, also his shield its a good adventage for him.

Francisco
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladejumpin.jpg

If this do not place Blade several categories above Beast/Cap/DD I don't know what could.

Brutacus
Originally posted by Francisco
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladejumpin.jpg

If this do not place Blade several categories above Beast/Cap/DD I don't know what could.

lol that litlte jump puts him above beast, you do know beast and iff you want to see some agility of him read Avengers (1st series) #137.
He the only one who was agile enough to make it in a maze full of bombs.

King KAM
Cap 9/10.

Until i See 1 feat of blade beating someone worth a goddamn in h2h. he aint worth nothing. And as for strength, cap bench presses 2200 without breaking a sweat kiddoe. Also agility wise, he has kept up with the best.

Now for blade being stronger, he aint nearly strong enough. Cap trades blows with top dogs unless Blade is class 20 he aint KOing cap without a hell of a time.

And im going to check out the Respect thread and i BETTER see a better feat than running damn near 60mph and he better be eating explosions for lunch.

batdude123
Originally posted by King KAM
Cap 9/10.

Until i See 1 feat of blade beating someone worth a goddamn in h2h. he aint worth nothing. And as for strength, cap bench presses 2200 without breaking a sweat kiddoe. Also agility wise, he has kept up with the best.

Now for blade being stronger, he aint nearly strong enough. Cap trades blows with top dogs unless Blade is class 20 he aint KOing cap without a hell of a time.

And im going to check out the Respect thread and i BETTER see a better feat than running damn near 60mph and he better be eating explosions for lunch.

Damn straight. thumb up

MJOILNIR
Originally posted by King KAM
Cap 9/10.

Until i See 1 feat of blade beating someone worth a goddamn in h2h. he aint worth nothing. And as for strength, cap bench presses 2200 without breaking a sweat kiddoe. Also agility wise, he has kept up with the best.

Now for blade being stronger, he aint nearly strong enough. Cap trades blows with top dogs unless Blade is class 20 he aint KOing cap without a hell of a time.

And im going to check out the Respect thread and i BETTER see a better feat than running damn near 60mph and he better be eating explosions for lunch.
Bygod you tell em' Im to mad to mad

King KAM
I AM back, and i just looked through the blade Respect thread. All he did is cut down a bunch of Vampires, but Blade has a jobber Aura with Vampires like Wolverine does Ninjas, sure he can kill a bunch of em, but after the first hundred, no-one is impressed anymore.

Blade Tangled with Gambit, who KEPT up with him, he also Tangled with spidey, but he didnt BEAT anyone, he has no heavyweights under his belt, and hasnt shown anything as impressive as Cap.

Cap is Faster, Stronger, More Durable, and just all around more Gangsta

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King KAM
I AM back, and i just looked through the blade Respect thread. All he did is cut down a bunch of Vampires, but Blade has a jobber Aura with Vampires like Wolverine does Ninjas, sure he can kill a bunch of em, but after the first hundred, no-one is impressed anymore.

Blade Tangled with Gambit, who KEPT up with him, he also Tangled with spidey, but he didnt BEAT anyone, he has no heavyweights under his belt, and hasnt shown anything as impressive as Cap.

Cap is Faster, Stronger, More Durable, and just all around more Gangsta Wow you are a moron. When Blade fought Gambit he didn't have his Vampiric powers yet. Faster? You didn't look too close in the thread I think. More durable? Blades been shot in the leg and kept fighting. Your a dumb@ss imo.

soxfn89
Originally posted by bakerboy
Dude, i wasnt talking about blade in that one. I was saying that spidey has sent fly away people like the hulk or the thing and it doesnt means that he is stronger than hulk or thing.

I have read tons of blade comics, he is very good. Very atlethic, very good fighter, very strong, a sword master, etc. But in agility terms, he is not like beast, spiderman, nightcrawler, captain america, daredevil or black panther.

The one where I think spiderman beat up the hulk was cosmic spiderman. When classic spidey fought hulk I think he flipped him over once and gave him a few good shots but I wouldn'y say he was the victor

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wow you are a moron. When Blade fought Gambit he didn't have his Vampiric powers yet. Faster? You didn't look too close in the thread I think. More durable? Blades been shot in the leg and kept fighting. Your a dumb@ss imo. good thing no-one gives a flying monkey f*ck ab out your Opinion. Cap got shot 7 times in the arm and not only never said ouch, but used the arm to shoot back at the people.

soxfn89
Anyway I still say cap takes 7/10

King KAM
Originally posted by soxfn89
Anyway I still say cap takes 7/10 9/10....but you get the point.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King KAM
good thing no-one gives a flying monkey f*ck ab out your Opinion. Cap got shot 7 times in the arm and not only never said ouch, but used the arm to shoot back at the people. You have scan of that impressive peak human moment?

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
You have scan of that impressive peak human moment? why yes i do, would you like to see it?

Jyppe
Who has said anything about KOing him? Blade would just slice his head off with his sword.



..Umm, you mean like as big as Captain America has with everyone? That's quite large jobber aura then smile

How well has Captain America fared against Wolverine in the past? And don't mention the one hit KO from Enemy of State/Agent Of Shield.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King KAM
why yes i do, would you like to see it? I gotta see this.

Can Cap move this fast?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladespeedBlade3.jpg

This scan he was moing so fast his pursuers said he moved like lightning.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladefast.jpg

King KAM
Originally posted by Jyppe
Who has said anything about KOing him? Blade would just slice his head off with his sword.



..Umm, you mean like as big as Captain America has with everyone? That's quite large jobber aura then smile

How well has Captain America fared against Wolverine in the past? And don't mention the one hit KO from Enemy of State/Agent Of Shield. Well cap once punched wolverine through a car, and then got tackled, and the fight ended on a Interference. Then in there other fight, Cap whooped up on wolverine and was leaving when nuke interfered and then cap while turning around to deal with nuke got attacked from behind by a berserker wolverine. But he could have killed wolverine with the Muramasa blade earlier, he just didnt want to.

King KAM
the scans:http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/5159/ca2117wt6.th.jpg
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/6258/ca2118fu5.jpg

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King KAM
the scans:http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/5159/ca2117wt6.th.jpg
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/6258/ca2118fu5.jpg Where does it show him getting shot? And where's the blood?

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I gotta see this.

Can Cap move this fast?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladespeedBlade3.jpg

This scan he was moing so fast his pursuers said he moved like lightning.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladefast.jpg and those bullets came from assualt rifles.

and for speed, well cap does his thang when its time to do it. http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=103ak.jpg The gunman shoots at caps back, and when he is done shooting cap is behind him eek!

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Where does it show him getting shot? And where's the blood? he gets shot in the page before the thumbnail i have the comic so i can just show it, and the blood is everywhere on him, it was a gruesome scene, dont you see it???

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/3492/ca2116xe3.th.jpg
And he doesnt have bullet holes in him before the shooting....there is about 100 rounds fired at the car he is in and at him, and then he has seven bullet holes in his arm, you do the math.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King KAM
and those bullets came from assualt rifles.

and for speed, well cap does his thang when its time to do it. http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=103ak.jpg The gunman shoots at caps back, and when he is done shooting cap is behind him eek! That's not a speed feat slick. That's a tactics feat.

Batman Beyond
Originally posted by Francisco
Blade has an adamantium sword and Capt. America has his shield.
The fight takes place on the rooftops of Manhattan.
Who takes it?

caps sheild is stronger then adamantium

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's not a speed feat slick. That's a tactics feat. how is that tactics? the shooter shot at caps back, when he was finished shooting,cap was behind him, before he shot cap was infront of him.....yeah....i know it must hurt to be pwned...but u could atleast take it like a man. big grin

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King KAM
how is that tactics? the shooter shot at caps back, when he was finished shooting,cap was behind him, before he shot cap was infront of him.....yeah....i know it must hurt to be pwned...but u could atleast take it like a man. big grin The guy has his f*cking eyes closed. WTF scan are you looking at? laughing

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
The guy has his f*cking eyes closed. WTF scan are you looking at? laughing but did cap still not manage to dodge bullets after they were fired at him, from behind???

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King KAM
but did cap still not manage to dodge bullets after they were fired at him, from behind??? THE GUY HAD HIS EYES CLOSED!!!!!!!

It's kinda hard to hit somebody with your eyes closed and it's rather easy to sneak up on them with their eyes closed.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Francisco
What's up dog? Don't you trust in the evidence you placed on that Respcet Blade thread of yours? Blade can do impressive stuff.
.

Wow I couldnt even read what you said because im to busy cracking up because you said "What's up dog" laughing

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
THE GUY HAD HIS EYES CLOSED!!!!!!!

It's kinda hard to hit somebody with your eyes closed and it's rather easy to sneak up on them with their eyes closed. well the guy did mangage to hit EVERYONE who was standing right where cap was......

Grimm22
Originally posted by Brutacus
hmmm you make it sound like cap is more agile than beast??

He is no expression

Grimm22
Originally posted by King KAM
Cap 9/10.

Until i See 1 feat of blade beating someone worth a goddamn in h2h. he aint worth nothing. And as for strength, cap bench presses 2200 without breaking a sweat kiddoe. Also agility wise, he has kept up with the best.

Now for blade being stronger, he aint nearly strong enough. Cap trades blows with top dogs unless Blade is class 20 he aint KOing cap without a hell of a time.

And im going to check out the Respect thread and i BETTER see a better feat than running damn near 60mph and he better be eating explosions for lunch.

Since when has Peak Human been raised to above 1000 lbs?!!? What the f**k?

bag

King KAM
Originally posted by Grimm22
Since when has Peak Human been raised to above 1000 lbs?!!? What the f**k?

bag since i think around 1992 when the comic came out....lol

Grimm22
Originally posted by King KAM
since i think around 1992 when the comic came out....lol

Ugh sick

It still dosent justify the whole Wolverine dumpster thing

King KAM
Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh sick

It still dosent justify the whole Wolverine dumpster thing wolverine didnt throw that dumpster with 1 hand, and that dumpster weighed like 400 pounds.

Grimm22
Originally posted by King KAM
wolverine didnt throw that dumpster with 1 hand, and that dumpster weighed like 400 pounds.

Not according to Capt stick out tongue

King KAM
Originally posted by Grimm22
Not according to Capt stick out tongue yeah.....but when he got banned people paraded in the streets, he is the worst fanboy of em all..

Darth Martin
I'm not sure who would take this.

braz
well idunno, this may be just me, but IMO feats in the comic book world really dont mean jack. cuz of course writers are gunna have diff characters on completely different strength levels going against each other just because theyre both under the same comicbook company(MARVEL). for example: Captain America vs Hulk. now. we all know thats unrealistic and that the hulk would smash him with eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeee. Wolverine vs Captain Am. even this ones a no-brainer, we all know wolvie would stab CA's brains out and spill them all over the pavement then slice n dice em to little pieces with those claws. and normal punchez wont work on wolvie because he has a metal skeleton. and if u really think about it, all the peak humans in the comic book world have one or two feats which would put them above peak human. for example: Batman year one with Bruce kicking down trees and punching through brick walls. thats not realistic. we all know Batmans only peak human. and so is the Cap. and guess what. Blade isnt!!!! hes a f*cking vampire!! he thus, has vampiric strength, speed, agility, & durability, not to mention an assload of badass weaponz which IMO easily gives Blade the win. Blade 8.5/10.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by King KAM
wolverine didnt throw that dumpster with 1 hand, and that dumpster weighed like 400 pounds.

Yes he did and no it doesn't. I posted some measurements (and a link to a site that had bunch of dumpster info) on how much that dumpster would weigh when it was full/empty when I scanned the feat. Much more then 400lbs.


And Captain America wins. He is better then Blade in every way.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by braz
well idunno, this may be just me, but IMO feats in the comic book world really dont mean jack. cuz of course writers are gunna have diff characters on completely different strength levels going against each other just because theyre both under the same comicbook company(MARVEL). for example: Captain America vs Hulk. now. we all know thats unrealistic and that the hulk would smash him with eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeee. Wolverine vs Captain Am. even this ones a no-brainer, we all know wolvie would stab CA's brains out and spill them all over the pavement then slice n dice em to little pieces with those claws. and normal punchez wont work on wolvie because he has a metal skeleton. and if u really think about it, all the peak humans in the comic book world have one or two feats which would put them above peak human. for example: Batman year one with Bruce kicking down trees and punching through brick walls. thats not realistic. we all know Batmans only peak human. and so is the Cap. and guess what. Blade isnt!!!! hes a f*cking vampire!! he thus, has vampiric strength, speed, agility, & durability, not to mention an assload of badass weaponz which IMO easily gives Blade the win. Blade 8.5/10.


This is the kind of crap that really pisses me off. You think Blade wins not because of anything he has ever done. No no no you think Blade wins because he is part vampire. Never mind the fact that Marvel's vampires are a joke. Never mind that Captain America has matched and surpassed every single impressive thing Blade as ever done. Nope Blade wins because he is a vampire and Captain America is only human. What kind of shit is that? People need to get preconceived notions out of their heads that the classification "human" some how limits a character while "vampire" elevates them. Why even read a comic if you are just going to ignore everything presented too? Blade wins because he is a vampire? Don't make me laugh.

braz
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This is the kind of crap that really pisses me off. You think Blade wins not because of anything he has ever done. No no no you think Blade wins because he is part vampire. Never mind the fact that Marvel's vampires are a joke. Never mind that Captain America has matched and surpassed every single impressive thing Blade as ever done. Nope Blade wins because he is a vampire and Captain America is only human. What kind of shit is that? People need to get preconceived notions out of their heads that the classification "human" some how limits a character while "vampire" elevates them. Why even read a comic if you are just going to ignore everything presented too? Blade wins because he is a vampire? Don't make me laugh.

makes sense to me. or at least it does realistically, im not sure about the comic book world though because i dont read them that much, but yes, if u got two average people, one a human, the other a vampire and put them in an arena and had them fight, who do u think would win? yea.

King KAM
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes he did and no it doesn't. I posted some measurements (and a link to a site that had bunch of dumpster info) on how much that dumpster would weigh when it was full/empty when I scanned the feat. Much more then 400lbs.


And Captain America wins. He is better then Blade in every way. its impossible for him to throw that garbage can with one hand...... if you are using real life system to find out how much that thing weighs i will use real life physics to explain how he didnt do it with 1hand.

King KAM
Originally posted by braz
makes sense to me. or at least it does realistically, im not sure about the comic book world though because i dont read them that much, but yes, if u got two average people, one a human, the other a vampire and put them in an arena and had them fight, who do u think would win? yea. u dont read comics yet you post on a comic book forum.....you just let everyone know that your word dont amount to shit

capt it up
Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh sick

It still dosent justify the whole Wolverine dumpster thing
wolevrines always listed as over peakhuman so yes it does

capt it up
Originally posted by King KAM
yeah.....but when he got banned people paraded in the streets, he is the worst fanboy of em all..
you talk so much smack it amazing and u can never back it up.


on a side note blade gets his ass kicked

Grimm22
Originally posted by capt it up
wolevrines always listed as over peakhuman so yes it does

Strength still isnt the matter in this no expression

Its the fact that a Wolverine wouldnt be able to pick that up with one hand no expression

Its beyond the laws of phycics

Now if he were to slide the dumpster that would be possible

capt it up
Originally posted by Grimm22
Strength still isnt the matter in this no expression

Its the fact that a Wolverine wouldnt be able to pick that up with one hand no expression

Its beyond the laws of phycics

Now if he were to slide the dumpster that would be possible

are u realy gunna talk phycics with me when ur favorit character picks up cars with one arm which is also against the laws of phycics that he can move let a lone pick up a car with one arms or two lol.

Grimm22
Originally posted by capt it up
are u realy gunna talk phycics with me when ur favorit character picks up cars with one arm which is also against the laws of phycics that he can move let a lone pick up a car with on arms or two lol.

Um What the f**k?

The Thing's hands are 10x larger than Wolverine's head no expression

That and he can grip the cars wink

How is that against the laws of phycics?!?! What the f**k?

Wolverine isnt strong enougth to grip it like a strongman would

capt it up
Originally posted by Grimm22
Um What the f**k?

The Thing's hands are 10x larger than Wolverine's head no expression

That and he can grip the cars wink

How is that against the laws of phycics?!?! What the f**k?

Wolverine isnt strong enougth to grip it like a strongman would

also things ahnd is about the size of wolverines head

wolverine hands are large enough to grip the dumpster and u just assume he no strong enough to lift it.

think moving is against the law of physicic so is thing picking up the back end of a truck with one hand and throwing it.

Grimm22
Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine hands are large enoguh to grip the dumpster and u just assume he no strong enough to lift it.

think moving is against the law of physicic so is thing picking up the bakc end of a truck with one hand and throwing it.

You're comparing Wolverine's strength to Ben's Strength?!!? no expression......

hysterical

Wow your delusion knows no bounds, eh laughing

capt it up
Originally posted by Grimm22
You're comparing Wolverine's strength to Ben's Strength?!!? no expression......

hysterical

Wow your delusion knows no bounds, eh laughing
delusion? haft ur answer to threads is like thing owns it pethetic.


I am also in no way shape or form comparing wolverine strength to things. You my friend need to read what I am saying. You do not like what wolverine does so u say it against the law of phyicics, but the thing is what thing does is also against the law of phyicics, so I don't really care if u don't like what wolverine does, but the fact is you can not use the law of phyicic for one character, but not another.

King KAM
Originally posted by capt it up
you talk so much smack it amazing and u can never back it up.


on a side note blade gets his ass kicked dude i show you up in every thread...Grimm what is this??? like his 3 time saying i never back shit up, than he gets pwned and doesnt reply.Originally posted by Grimm22
Strength still isnt the matter in this no expression

Its the fact that a Wolverine wouldnt be able to pick that up with one hand no expression

Its beyond the laws of phycics

Now if he were to slide the dumpster that would be possible exactly he doesnt understand it, its not that wolverine couldnt have lifted the garbage can, its that with 1 hand its impossible for him to lift it...he needs 2 hands to pick it up and there is no scan of him actually lifting it with 1 hand, so we dont know whether he used 2 or not.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This is the kind of crap that really pisses me off. You think Blade wins not because of anything he has ever done. No no no you think Blade wins because he is part vampire. Never mind the fact that Marvel's vampires are a joke. Never mind that Captain America has matched and surpassed every single impressive thing Blade as ever done. Nope Blade wins because he is a vampire and Captain America is only human. What kind of shit is that? People need to get preconceived notions out of their heads that the classification "human" some how limits a character while "vampire" elevates them. Why even read a comic if you are just going to ignore everything presented too? Blade wins because he is a vampire? Don't make me laugh.

thumb up

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by King KAM
dude i show you up in every thread...Grimm what is this??? like his 3 time saying i never back shit up, than he gets pwned and doesnt reply. exactly he doesnt understand it, its not that wolverine couldnt have lifted the garbage can, its that with 1 hand its impossible for him to lift it...he needs 2 hands to pick it up and there is no scan of him actually lifting it with 1 hand, so we dont know whether he used 2 or not.

Why it is impossible to throw something with one hand? Comic book characters do it all the time.

soxfn89
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Why it is impossible to throw something with one hand? Comic book characters do it all the time.

True, the laws of physics really don't have to comply with the comic book world. Actually they rarely do. Thats why superheroes are able to do the extraordinary

King KAM
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Why it is impossible to throw something with one hand? Comic book characters do it all the time. at the end of the day, i still say it looks like wolverine threw it with both hands, and as for the Weight of the dumpster....there are different varietys of dumpsters everywhere. That feat has too many variables.

capt it up
Originally posted by King KAM
dude i show you up in every thread...Grimm what is this??? like his 3 time saying i never back shit up, than he gets pwned and doesnt reply. exactly he doesnt understand it, its not that wolverine couldnt have lifted the garbage can, its that with 1 hand its impossible for him to lift it...he needs 2 hands to pick it up and there is no scan of him actually lifting it with 1 hand, so we dont know whether he used 2 or not.
wolverine did lift it with one hand and also you have never once pwned me in any thing, hell most of your posts are CAPT OWNS ALL it is rather pethetic and u are extremely cocky.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by King KAM
its impossible for him to throw that garbage can with one hand...... if you are using real life system to find out how much that thing weighs i will use real life physics to explain how he didnt do it with 1hand.


... KAM didn't you just argue that Herc would beat Wolverine by picking up 40 tons of earth and dumping it on him? Wolverine tossing a dumpster makes alot more sense then Herc lifting 40 tons.

jasofisc
blade owns captain america if their are no plot devices, or PIS involved. Blade is faster, stronger, as well trained, more agile. If cap didn't have plot devices he would have been dead in WWII concidering bulets would be coming from every where and his shield isn't big enough to protect everything. They should give cap a luck factor like long shot and some of the stuff he does would make some kinda sence.

jasofisc
I still only give blade a slight advantage like 5.5 or 5.1.

jasofisc
I also ask why it is impossible to throw something that is that big. couldn't the person use inertia along with their strength to throw something.

keak da sneak
cap is way more powerful than blade you guys say that blade is faster more durable and stronger he may be stronger but that doesnt matter if cap has an adamantium shield wich will cut his sword in half none of his weaons can compare to caps shield ans cap is more durable than blade i never seen blade take anyhits from hulk or thor and cap has so blade's martial arts ability is nothin compare to caps sp cap wions 8/10

jasofisc
blade gets an adamantium sword in this. also cap have got punched by the hulk and thor? like to his face or gut, that's just insane that he could survive something like that.

braz
Blade winsbig grin

Grimm22
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Why it is impossible to throw something with one hand? Comic book characters do it all the time.

Its not the one handedness of it.

Its the fact that an object of that size and matter cannot be picked up with one hand by Wolverine at the angle that Capt is suggesting.

Grimm22
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... KAM didn't you just argue that Herc would beat Wolverine by picking up 40 tons of earth and dumping it on him? Wolverine tossing a dumpster makes alot more sense then Herc lifting 40 tons.

If it were a trash can then it would make sense.

However a dumpster that is roughly 10x bigger than Wolverine made out of material that Wolverine cannot crush to create a grip on no expression

It makes no sense

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Grimm22
If it were a trash can then it would make sense.

However a dumpster that is roughly 10x bigger than Wolverine made out of material that Wolverine cannot crush to create a grip on no expression

It makes no sense

I don't know, Wolverine has a pretty strong grip. When he was washed away in a turrent of sewer water after the X-men fought the Hell Fire club he reached out and grabbed a steal pipe. His grip was so strong that he crushed it in his palm.

Grimm22
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know, Wolverine has a pretty strong grip. When he was washed away in a turrent of sewer water after the X-men fought the Hell Fire club he reached out and grabbed a steal pipe. His grip was so strong that he crushed it in his palm.

*Goes and gets DP TPB*

Yep your correct there

However it was a rusted pipe. That and a pipe and a dumpster have much different durablity

King KAM
Originally posted by Grimm22
*Goes and gets DP TPB*

Yep your correct there

However it was a rusted pipe. That and a pipe and a dumpster have much different durablity exactly, we never saw him grip and crush the dumpster, he would need 2 hands to launch that thing, not for the strength simply for the grip.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Grimm22
*Goes and gets DP TPB*

Yep your correct there

However it was a rusted pipe. That and a pipe and a dumpster have much different durablity

Rust would make the metal more brittle so it would have crumbled under pressure instead of being crushed. So it may have been rusted on the outside but I think the metal still had a great deal structural integrity (... is that the phrase I'm looking for). Also I'm hardly an expert but I'd say a water pipe would be durable then the metal a dumpster is made of if only because I have seen dumpsters rusted right through but never a water pipe.

Mider999
blade wins?

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Mider999
blade wins?

An all expenses paid trip to the emergency room courtesy of Captain America. cool

Soljer
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
An all expenses paid trip to the emergency room courtesy of Captain America. cool

yes

Francisco
You fanboys can say whatever you want but Blade wins this. He is stronger, faster, more durable and just plain better.

Captain American has not benched 2200 since the time he got super strenght. Blade is superhuman and he would crush him like a bug.

snoopdogg
Well when Blades new ongoing gets started next month he will get some better attention. In the first issue he fights Spidey and in the second issue goes against Dr. Doom.

Francisco
That's what I'm hoping for. That the new series would make a lot of fanboy to rethink their views regarding Blade.

snoopdogg
Well anybody who think Cap. will put Blade in the hospital is a moron. That's imo however.

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well anybody who think Cap. will put Blade in the hospital is a moron. That's imo however. all i have to say about that is....http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7858/drkinglz5.jpg

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King KAM
all i have to say about that is....http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7858/drkinglz5.jpg I'm a Nigga with a steel trigga.

King KAM
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'm a Nigga with a steel trigga. good thing im like bruce leeroy in this *****.

braz
what are some of Caps greatest strength feats? scans? cuz every1 says hes superhuman, but i looked on wikipedia and it said the serum only brought him to peak human physical perfection.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by braz
what are some of Caps greatest strength feats? scans? cuz every1 says hes superhuman, but i looked on wikipedia and it said the serum only brought him to peak human physical perfection. That is true. He is only peak human. Basically the same as Batman except for Batman has to work at it.

braz
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That is true. He is only peak human. Basically the same as Batman except for Batman has to work at it.

exactly! eek! thats the same thing i always thought. cuz i do believe that Caps superhuman to an extent, but not like Spiderman or nothin, maybe 3-4 ton range at the most, but it specifically states that Blade has superhuman strength, vampiric strength which is above peak human(1-2 range). and im sure Blade has his own share of superhuman strength feats on scans that would exceed 1-2 ton range easily.
so, IMO Blade wins 6/10

snoopdogg
Originally posted by braz
exactly! eek! thats the same thing i always thought. cuz i do believe that Caps superhuman to an extent, but not like Spiderman or nothin, maybe 3-4 ton range at the most, but it specifically states that Blade has superhuman strength, vampiric strength which is above peak human(1-2 range). and im sure Blade has his own share of superhuman strength feats on scans that would exceed 1-2 ton range easily.
so, IMO Blade wins 6/10 Actually 3-4 tons is kinda high for Cap. And Blade does not have any strength feats that I am aware.

braz
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually 3-4 tons is kinda high for Cap. And Blade does not have any strength feats that I am aware.

doesnt mean he doesnt have any.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by braz
doesnt mean he doesnt have any. I made a respect thread for Blade and read alot of his books. I don't think he has any. I do think that he can beat Cap though. He's got the whole "all of their strengths and none of their weaknesses" thing going on.

http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1845548#1845548

braz
hmmm ur right. he probably doesnt then. well, given that, and knowing that Caps above peak human just like Blade, with enhanced reflexes also and most likely superior fighting skills, i say the Cap takes it. 6/10

snoopdogg
Originally posted by braz
hmmm ur right. he probably doesnt then. well, given that, and knowing that Caps above peak human just like Blade, with enhanced reflexes also and most likely superior fighting skills, i say the Cap takes it. 6/10 Just because Blade does not have any strength feats I wouldn't change your opinion on the fight. Caps. bios list him with peak human strength and Blades say he has superhuman strength. So I am gonna assume Blade is stronger.

hitemup
i say blade takes it 6/10

snoopdogg
Actually I found a strength feat for Blade. He was in a underground tunnel/cave and dug his way to the surface with his bare hands.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladedigginBlade2.jpg

Up In Flames
Blade beats Cap even without the sword.

I'm black and I'm proud!... so sue me.

braz
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Just because Blade does not have any strength feats I wouldn't change your opinion on the fight. Caps. bios list him with peak human strength and Blades say he has superhuman strength. So I am gonna assume Blade is stronger.

idunno, regardless though, Cap still has superior reflexes so he could be countering more blows IMO.

braz
Bah, what am i thinking, Blade beats him, after he dodges Caps shield being chunked at him, Blade puts a shell in his grill.

jasonk3
How well has Captain America fared against Wolverine in the past? And don't mention the one hit KO from Enemy of State/Agent Of Shield.

What?! he snuck up on wolverine from behind and smashed him, he cant beat wolverine in a one on one fight and lets not forget he fought an ass-load of people earlier. But lets not get off track thats a whole another topic, cap'll beat blade (i think)

don't shiv
BLADE.

Daredevil1
I go with Cap, more skilled and just as good stats.

King KAM
Originally posted by Up In Flames
Blade beats Cap even without the sword.

I'm black and I'm proud!... so sue me. koon yes

braz
Originally posted by King KAM
koon yes

racist!!. no expression

naw, but seriously i should kick ur head in for saying that. dots

kevdude
Blade wins 6/10.

don't shiv
Blade so owns Cap its not funny.

jasonk3
Bump

jasonk3
Cap is peak human, while blade is low superhuman...but cap is slightly more skilled.

Rick/Genis
Blades head is gone via a well placed "SHIELD THROW!!!!" Followed by a "STARS AND STRIPES" for good measure.

emporerpants
wtf is all this nonsense about blade beating cap? seriously. the think the crown jewel of this whole debacle is the fact that the pro blade people actually admitted that blade has no strength feats. wait, maybe its the whole "blade wins because he's a vampire." with no other reasons forthcoming.

OneDumbG0
Baron Blood was a vampire. Captain America beat Baron Blood. I don't get it either, emporerpants.

Cap 8/10

Alfheim
Originally posted by jasonk3
Cap is peak human, while blade is low superhuman...but cap is slightly more skilled.

Bro Cap is actually superhuman as well. I used to think that the most Namor could lift was 85 tons but his feats contradict this.

Oh yeah Cap actually has 1000s of years combat experience due to Korvac.

jasonk3
Originally posted by Alfheim
Bro Cap is actually superhuman as well. I used to think that the most Namor could lift was 85 tons but his feats contradict this.

Oh yeah Cap actually has 1000s of years combat experience due to Korvac.

Originally posted by Validus
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jasonk3
Originally posted by Alfheim
Bro Cap is actually superhuman as well. I used to think that the most Namor could lift was 85 tons but his feats contradict this.

Oh yeah Cap actually has 1000s of years combat experience due to Korvac.

Oh and I was basing my judgement on cap being peak-human and blade being advanced human on what snoop told me.

jasonk3
Originally posted by snoopdogg
According to the guys as Marvel he is. I emailed them asking this question and they said Cap has peak human strength and Blade has genuine(low level) superhuman strength.

No point in debating me...I was pretty much quoting what snoop said. erm

Alfheim
Originally posted by jasonk3


Well do you know why Cap is in the street level category? Is this beacuse you think that Cap has peak human stats? Well do you know that peak human strength ends around a 1000lbs, do you know that Caps strength level has consistently been shown to be well above 1000lbs, therefore he has superhuman strength and should not be on street level.

Furthermore what really ****ed up about that list is that Black Panther is on street level when his bio says he is superhuman.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Black_Panther_(T'Challa)

Powers
T'Challa's senses and physical attributes have been enhanced to superhuman levels by the heart-shaped herb.

Originally posted by jasonk3
Oh and I was basing my judgement on cap being peak-human and blade being advanced human on what snoop told me.

Oh OK well hes wrong anyway *shrug*

snoopdogg
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Baron Blood was a vampire. Captain America beat Baron Blood. I don't get it either, emporerpants.

Cap 8/10 Dracula was a vampire too I think and Blade beat him.Originally posted by Alfheim
Well do you know why Cap is in the street level category? Is this beacuse you think that Cap has peak human stats? Well do you know that peak human strength ends around a 1000lbs, do you know that Caps strength level has consistently been shown to be well above 1000lbs, therefore he has superhuman strength and should not be on street level.

Furthermore what really ****ed up about that list is that Black Panther is on street level when his bio says he is superhuman.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Black_Panther_(T'Challa)

Powers
T'Challa's senses and physical attributes have been enhanced to superhuman levels by the heart-shaped herb.



Oh OK well hes wrong anyway *shrug* I'm wrong? Why don't you email the editors of the Marvel Handbooks and tell them they are wrong.

Anyways this is a good fight either way as they both have decades of fighting experience even though Cap was frozen for most of his life.

emporerpants
actually, marvel handbooks are almost ALWAYS wrong. they're very unreliable.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by emporerpants
actually, marvel handbooks are almost ALWAYS wrong. they're very unreliable. Only in certain things but if the writers actually come out and say one character is stronger than another it's safe to assume he is.

Superhuman>peak human.

emporerpants
no, the handbooks are useless as proof about anything. i will say that blade is probably a little stronger than cap, but cap has fought MUCH stronger people than blade. cap is more skilled, and more agile. cap takes blade down hard.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by emporerpants
no, the handbooks are useless as proof about anything. i will say that blade is probably a little stronger than cap, but cap has fought MUCH stronger people than blade. cap is more skilled, and more agile. cap takes blade down hard. Blade has fought and beat guys much more stronger than Cap also. Cap is not more agile either. They are equal at Caps best in agility.

emporerpants
what are blades agility feats? cap has a trillion more than blade. the people cap has fought >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the people blade has fought. blade is cool and all, but he loses to cap.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by emporerpants
what are blades agility feats? cap has a trillion more than blade. the people cap has fought >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the people blade has fought. blade is cool and all, but he loses to cap. Cap has alot more appearances than Blade does! Did you ever stop to consider that?

Captain America is Marvels icon.

emporerpants
doesn't change the fact that cap wins.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by emporerpants
doesn't change the fact that cap wins. Not logically but comics are rarely logically.

Experience is about the same though as they are both around the same age but Blade has been fighting his whole life as oppose to being frozen for 20 years.

emporerpants
we can only go by what the characters have shown to be able to do. what cap has shown is >>>>> than what blade has shown. we can't say that blade wins simply because he is a vamp. he doesn't have the feats to back him up. until blade has some better showings cap > blade.

emporerpants
cap has much more exp than blade due to korvac, was already mentioned by alfheim.

Daredevil1
Captain America wins 7-8/10.


Cap has defeated Beast, Tarantula, Scorpion, Man-ape, Ramrod. So the arguement that Blade wins because the term superhuman is associated with him is nonsensical, especially considering since Cap's feats in strength/speed are just as impressive if not more so.

tkitna
Blade eats shield in this match. I seriously cant see him winning any fight with Cap. Caps a beast.

Francisco
Currently Blade's a wimp... He gets beaten all the time... Hell he even cut off his own hand after being captured again... He seems unable to prevent getting captured....

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