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Well, is there an opposite for everything?

Huh? No. The vast majority of things don't have an opposite.

i suppose in some sense ur right.

Wouldn't the opposite of Everything be Nothing?

I believe so, everything has an opposite.......Yin/Yang, cause effect, Sowing/Reaping, fear/love, up/down, visible/invisible, male/female, ...etc...also cyclical....

Originally posted by Gregory
Huh? No. The vast majority of things don't have an opposite. While I'll agree that not everything has an opposite, I'd have to say that there's quite a large number of things that do. A lot of things exist in duality. Black/white, heaven/hell, matter/antimatter, fire/water, earth/air. Even the seven deadly sins have their opposites. There's the color wheel, which is constructed from opposites. Day/night, dusk/dawn, sun/moon, silver/gold.

In general, opposites exist in the natural world, not really in the modern one.

ofcourse not everything has an opposite.

take humans. What is the opposite of me, Evil Dead, Jeff personally?

Originally posted by Mindship
Wouldn't the opposite of Everything be Nothing?

If the opposite of everything is nothing, then nothing has an opposite.

Originally posted by Ladyluck
If the opposite of everything is nothing, then nothing has an opposite.

Nothing is not the opposite of everything because they are both something.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Nothing is not the opposite of everything because they are both something.

So everything doesn't have an opposite then, and neither does nothing.

Originally posted by Ladyluck
So everything doesn't have an opposite then, and neither does nothing.

I would agree with that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would agree with that.

Well I believe we've come to a conclusion for the original question.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
ofcourse not everything has an opposite.

take humans. What is the opposite of me, Evil Dead, Jeff personally?

The opposite of you is the Evil Dead from the Anti-matter universe of course

good answer.

EVERYTHING MUST HAVE AN OPPOSITE For science to work....

Everything has an equal to opposite reaction.......

what the hell are you going on about Debbie?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
what the hell are you going on about Debbie? LOL

Of course there are "Polar opposites".........And even with Asexual organisms............there IS STILL AN OPPOSITE within there/that body.

What the hell...There is "Cause and Effect"..............These are opposites.............It's in science.........it's in frickin everything........cycles...............

*Goes to Walmart*

Originally posted by debbiejo
EVERYTHING MUST HAVE AN OPPOSITE For science to work....

Everything has an equal to opposite reaction.......

Do you mean every action has an equal but opposite reaction?

Newton's Third law of Motion
To every action (force applied) there is an equal but opposite reaction (equal force applied in the opposite direction).

Originally posted by Flamboyant4Life
Well, is there an opposite for everything?

Nah

Nothing is more the absence of everything, rather than the opposite of everything.

Shaky already covered the laws of motion....which apply to forces...



cause and affect are not oposites. I strike a match (cause).....the friction causes the match head to catch fire (affect). A match head catching fire is not the opposite of a match being struck.

Whats the opposite of humans?

Non humans.

OK just for fun........What doesn't have an opposite?

Originally posted by debbiejo
OK just for fun........What doesn't have an opposite?


A Dog.

A non dog.

Originally posted by debbiejo


A non dog.

That does not exist. Fact is there is no opposite of a Dog.

A dog that is not...........a non dog.

Originally posted by debbiejo
A dog that is not...........a non dog.

And you are not.....me.


Am i your opposite?

Possibly....

Is opposite only a label?? What is a true opposite as compared to what we call true opposites?...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Possibly....

Is opposite only a label?? What is a true opposite as compared to what we call true opposites?...

...what the hell are you talking about. The major problem we have here is that you don't know how opposites are defined. take a Dictionary and save us some time.

No

It works for me............

Originally posted by debbiejo
No

It works for me............

It's still wrong.

Are you sure?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Are you sure?

No, but rather....

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, but rather....

Certain abstracts supposedly don't have opposites. But don't quote me on that because it is a sound bite from a lecture I wasn't meant to be in, and I didn't actually know what it meant.

Abstract whats I don't know.

That is an interesting way to think ! The opposite of a "dog" is a "non-dog". In one sense they are opposites, depends on how you see the question.

I think the problem is in the definition of opposite, there are many ways to understand what it is.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
That is an interesting way to think ! The opposite of a "dog" is a "non-dog". In one sense they are opposites, depends on how you see the question.

I think the problem is in the definition of opposite, there are many ways to understand what it is.

I think of it as opposite as positive negative. Something like dog - non dog. Non-dog is lots of things.

Of course there is an opposite to everything. How can there not be.

Positive / Negative

Someone please give me a plausible example of something that doesn't have an opposite.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Of course there is an opposite to everything. How can there not be.

Positive / Negative

Someone please give me a plausible example of something that doesn't have an opposite. Whew....

Thank you...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Of course there is an opposite to everything. How can there not be.

Positive / Negative

Someone please give me a plausible example of something that doesn't have an opposite.

You...

Spoon.

Originally posted by Gregory
Spoon.

Fork.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Fork.

How is a fork the opposite (real opposite) of a spoon? And where does a knife fit into that picture?

Sorry, you were joking...funny..haha

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Of course there is an opposite to everything. How can there not be.

Positive / Negative

Someone please give me a plausible example of something that doesn't have an opposite.

Here's a list of things I'd like to know the opposite of then:

Flying
Drowning
Chocolate
TV
Book
Bardock42
George W. Bush
The Sun
The USA
Music
Earth
Five
Zero
The letter "B"
The Batman Sign

Yes, no, maybe.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yes, no, maybe.

One of the options you gave is correct.

Flying - falling?
Drowning - Swimming?
Chocolate - Ahhh... Egypt?
TV - Book
Book - TV (ok, I am being silly now)
Bardock42 - The Fallen Madonna with the Big Boobies ('Allo 'Allo)
George W. Bush - A smart person.
The Sun - A black hole
The USA - ASU?
Music - Discord.
Earth - Air?
Five - Evif?
Zero - Hero.
The letter "B" - Z minus 2.
The Batman Sign - The Robin Sign.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Flying - falling?
Drowning - Swimming?
Chocolate - Ahhh... Egypt?
TV - Book
Book - TV (ok, I am being silly now)
Bardock42 - The Fallen Madonna with the Big Boobies ('Allo 'Allo)
George W. Bush - A smart person.
The Sun - A black hole
The USA - ASU?
Music - Discord.
Earth - Air?
Five - Evif?
Zero - Hero.
The letter "B" - Z minus 2.
The Batman Sign - The Robin Sign.

I take it you are being funny, while actually agreeing wit me...haha then.

Just for everyone to remember what an "opposite" is:

n.
One that is opposite or contrary to another.
An opponent or antagonist.
An antonym.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opposite

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You...

The opposite of me is you, actually.

Opposite of me as an object would be male.

''Here's a list of things I'd like to know the opposite of then:''

Flying - falling
Drowning - swimming, or being on the land, not drowning
Chocolate - no chocolate
TV - no TV
Book - No book
Bardock42 - no bardock42
George W. Bush - No George W. Bush
The Sun - No sun
The USA - Any other country, or no USA
Music - silence or no music
Earth - air, or no earth
Five - minus 5, or no 5, or 0
Zero - something - any other number that isn't 'zero' is its opposite.
The letter "B" - no letter B
The Batman Sign - No batman sign

Opposite of something that IS, is something that ISN'T that. How complicated is that.

Something is something, because its not the other.

exactly.

I know they are trying, but we must remember they have been cursed with being the opposite of women..

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Opposite of something that IS, is something that ISN'T that. How complicated is that.

It's very simple. It's also complete nonsense. No wonder you think everything has an opposite, since by your definition, every thing is the opposite of every thing else.

Almost nothing has a real opposite. The opposite of light is darkness? Nuh uh. Darkness is just what you get when there isn't any light. If we associated light with the real numbers, and gave a lightwave a "lightness rating" of ten, darkness would be nothing more impressive then zero. The opposite of light--antilight, with a rating of negative ten--does not exist.

Originally posted by Gregory
The opposite of light is darkness? Nuh uh. Darkness is just what you get when there isn't any light.

Holly shit Sherlock!! No way!

.....

Opposite of light is darkness, and you just said so. Absence of Light equal darkness. Light is opposite of dark.

When there is NO light there is dark.

Dark = no light. (refer to my otehr list)

Dark is opposite of light. Absence of one, creates the other.
Its a perfect opposite in fact.

Way. I don't know why I'd want to continue a conversation with you after that, but I just told you why I disagree with that. You can read my post as many times as you want, if you didn't catch it the first time.

Absence of something is not the same as opposite. Zero is not the opposite of five, whatever you seem to think. Darkness is not the opposite of light.

Opposite is like something positive/negative. It's vague but it is an opposite. To find an opposite to an object like a spoon you would need something living that is not metal and not spoon shaped. You have to narrow it down by asking these type of questions until you have something that is a perfect opposite. Anyone understand because I am still not sure. Cat. Has hair, has whiskers, lives, not metal. Perfect opposite of spoon. But there are more animals that have that.
So i think everything has an opposite

An electron has an opposite, it is called an anti-electron. They are the same but their charge is different; one is positive and one is negative. So, the opposite of light would be a photon with a different charge then a standard photon, and that does not exist.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Holly shit Sherlock!! No way!

.....

Opposite of light is darkness, and you just said so. Absence of Light equal darkness. Light is opposite of dark.

When there is NO light there is dark.

Dark = no light. (refer to my otehr list)

Dark is opposite of light. Absence of one, creates the other.
Its a perfect opposite in fact. I AM SOOOOOOOO HAPPY.!!jump

It's only logical.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I AM SOOOOOOOO HAPPY.!!jump

It's only logical.

Did you read my post?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
The opposite of me is you, actually.

Opposite of me as an object would be male.

''Here's a list of things I'd like to know the opposite of then:''

Flying - falling
Drowning - swimming, or being on the land, not drowning
Chocolate - no chocolate
TV - no TV
Book - No book
Bardock42 - no bardock42
George W. Bush - No George W. Bush
The Sun - No sun
The USA - Any other country, or no USA
Music - silence or no music
Earth - air, or no earth
Five - minus 5, or no 5, or 0
Zero - something - any other number that isn't 'zero' is its opposite.
The letter "B" - no letter B
The Batman Sign - No batman sign

Opposite of something that IS, is something that ISN'T that. How complicated is that.

Something is something, because its not the other.

Wow...I can't even say much besides...BULLSHIT

Come on now, even you must realize how stupid that view is.

What is No Bardock? Nothing? Everything that is not Bardock? Is a Piece of paper the opposite of Bardock? Let me give you the answer there...NO. It's not. There is no opposite to it...


And five has two opposites? Hahahaha. Haha. Ha?

Opposite is not the absence of something. It is...well..the opposite.

To be the opposite of something every part of it has to be the opposite to it. Not just the existence. It needs opposite character. Opposite ideas. Opposite Hair Colour. And that's all not possible. Because there is no opposite to hair colour. There's no absolute line to judge it on. It'S just not.

There's not an opposite to everything. FACT.

Can someone smart also explain the ignormi here that they are wrong? Please? I doubt they will believe me. Although they are clearly wrong.

The opposite of Chocolate is Vanilla.

Originally posted by lord xyz
The opposite of Chocolate is Vanilla.
Hahahahahah

And the opposite of strawberry is peanut butter. Why? I don't know, it just is. Because Strawberries need to have an opposite...

The opposite of anything is "not IT"......

Originally posted by debbiejo
The opposite of anything is "not IT"......

Oh I get the hang of it now...the opposite of debbiejo is "a smart person" ...right?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I take it you are being funny, while actually agreeing wit me...haha then.

Indeed that was my intention.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh I get the hang of it now...the opposite of debbiejo is "a smart person" ...right?

Right. So, I'm the opposite of Deb.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Right. So, I'm the opposite of Deb.

Pride leads to the darkside (but then everything does. Damn Jedi)

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh I get the hang of it now...the opposite of debbiejo is "a smart person" ...right? GET OUT OF MY BOAT!!

Originally posted by debbiejo
GET OUT OF MY BOAT!!

I'm not even on your boat. There are only people that realize that hardly anything has an actual opposite.

Well when I meant opposites, I didn't really mean Absolute opposites. Like the opposite of a dog is a cat. Opposite of an apple is an orange.

Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Well when I meant opposites, I didn't really mean Absolute opposites. Like the opposite of a dog is a cat. Opposite of an apple is an orange.

Oh...you meant like no opposites at all then? Because clearly the opposite of a cat is not a dog...same for apples and oranges.

If you were asking if one could make up a fake opposite for everything..then yes. The opposite of a knife could be a lake then...and of a phone maybe soy sauce...but what does that help?

Well, it has to at least make sense.

Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Well, it has to at least make sense.

But your examples do not make sense. And they do not apply. And....and....it's just very, very weird to assume that everything has an opposite, seeing as hardly anything really has one.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm not even on your boat. There are only people that realize that hardly anything has an actual opposite. Understandable since you cannot accept the realistic views....

Actually, everything does have an opposite, but the opposite is not in our universe. It's in an opposite universe, parellel to ours.

could also be.....

Originally posted by debbiejo
Understandable since you cannot accept the realistic views....

Look, in this universe hardly anything has an opposite.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Actually, everything does have an opposite, but the opposite is not in our universe. It's in an opposite universe, parellel to ours.

Nice theory, I won't say it is wrong...but..well it has to be wrong.

The opposite of one thing is something which is completely different in the most extreme way, but only in regard to the relevant aspect(s) to it, ergo one thing can have more than one opposite.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

3.Being the other of two complementary or mutually exclusive things: the opposite sex; an opposite role to the lead in the play.

4.
a. Altogether different, as in nature, quality, or significance: The effect of the medication was opposite to that intended.

BRAVO!!

You have just proven all my points, than you for that.

I have underlined and empasised the important thigs which prove what i said.

Everything has a duality - something which is opposite to something else, IE, what it isn't. The fricking deffinition tells you so.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
BRAVO!!

You have just proven all my points, than you for that.

I have underlined and empasised the important thigs which prove what i said.

Everything has a duality - something which is opposite to something else, IE, what it isn't. The fricking deffinition tells you so.

Again, what is the opposite of a piano?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
BRAVO!!

You have just proven all my points, than you for that.

I have underlined and empasised the important thigs which prove what i said.

Everything has a duality - something which is opposite to something else, IE, what it isn't. The fricking deffinition tells you so.

The problem is that there are so many definitions of opposite that both everything does and everything does not have an opposite can be true.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Again, what is the opposite of a piano?

The one on the other side of the room.
The one playing the counter point.
There is no opposite.

All these are true.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The problem is that there are so many definitions of opposite that both everything does and everything does not have an opposite can be true.



The one on the other side of the room.
The one playing the counter point.
There is no opposite.

All these are true.

Why doesn't somebody define the term then? Preferably the thread starter.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The one on the other side of the room.
The one playing the counter point.
There is no opposite.

All these are true.

Shakya, that might be the msot stupid thing I have ever.....EVER read.

You understand that you just made 1000 cute baby seals die with that nonsense?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Shakya, that might be the msot stupid thing I have ever.....EVER read.

You understand that you just made 1000 cute baby seals die with that nonsense?

1. Placed or located directly across from something else or from each other: opposite sides of a building.

3. Being the other of two complementary or mutually exclusive things: the opposite sex; an opposite role to the lead in the play.

Fact is fact, get over it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
1. Placed or located directly across from something else or from each other: opposite sides of a building.

3. Being the other of two complementary or mutually exclusive things: the opposite sex; an opposite role to the lead in the play.

Fact is fact, get over it.

I can't get over Bullshit. Either there is an opposite or there isn't. There not being an opposite is for example the opposite of their being an opposite, so in this case there is an opposite.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I can't get over Bullshit. Either there is an opposite or there isn't. There not being an opposite is for example the opposite of their being an opposite, so in this case there is an opposite.

Why don't you read? It all depends on what opposite means.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why don't you read? It all depends on what opposite means.

No..really, it doesn't, that's just a very basic concept. If something has an opposite in one of those cases the thing has an opposite. You'll probably call me pedantic or something, but what you said was just wrong.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Why doesn't somebody define the term then? Preferably the thread starter. The term can also be abstract. It is only OUR label of what we think is opposite, but necessarily what the TRUE meaning of it is.

Again Bardock, the opposite of a piano is a non piano.

Night - day
male - female
creative - non creative
dog - non dog
fries - non fries
trees, non trees
Spirit - no spirit
Rich - poor ( or your view of rich and poor)
aggressive - passive
Happy - sad
owned - free
Attracted - non Attracted
Beer - non beer
Secure - non secure
Stable - non stable
Judgement - non judgement
North Pool - South Pole
Yes - No
God - No god
Faith - No faith
Asexual - non sexual
20 plus - 20 minus
Gravity - non gravity



Simple actually IMO.

Mathamatics does show this so.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No..really, it doesn't, that's just a very basic concept. If something has an opposite in one of those cases the thing has an opposite. You'll probably call me pedantic or something, but what you said was just wrong.

I gave you the definitions. If a person chooses to only use one definition, they maybe closed minded, but the are not technically wrong.

Originally posted by debbiejo
The term can also be abstract. It is only OUR label of what we think is opposite, but necessarily what the TRUE meaning of it is.

Again Bardock, the opposite of a piano is a non piano.



Might I just ask, sweetie.

What's the ****ing point of that?

Does everything have an opposite?

'Yes, if you apply the prefix 'non-'.'

Ok, cya!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I gave you the definitions. If a person chooses to only use one definition, they maybe closed minded, but the are not technically wrong.

Yeah, maybe, but you saying that it has an opposite but doesn't have one just is wrong.


Okay, debbie..where is this non-piano? Can you show it to me?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, maybe, but you saying that it has an opposite but doesn't have one just is wrong.


Okay, debbie..where is this non-piano? Can you show it to me?

I was merely illustrating the ambiguously of the word. I was not giving my opinion. I gave that back in the beginning of this thread.

Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Well, is there an opposite for everything?

When it comes to poeple, yes.

In nature? Yeah I guess so.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Again, what is the opposite of a piano?

Right, you cannot think anything which is ''altogether different in nature'' to a piano.

By your logic, everything else, is the same, or similar to piano, and thus, it doen't have an opposite.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Right, you cannot think anything which is ''altogether different in nature'' to a piano.

By your logic, everything else, is the same, or similar to piano, and thus, it doen't have an opposite.

No, just something that is different from a piano is the opposite of it. For example a cat just isn't the opposite of a piano. If you think that you are stupid.

Oh and please provide me with evidence which suggests that not everything has an opposite, because maybe then I can stop thinking you're talking out of your ass.

Quite an irony really, particulary because you believe you have ANY authority to decide who is stupid.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Oh and please provide me with evidence which suggests that not everything has an opposite, because maybe then I can stop thinking you're talking out of your ass.

Quite an irony really, particulary because you believe you have ANY authority to decide who is stupid.

Look, the matter of the fact is that a Piano doesn't have an opposite. There is no "no-piano" it doesn't exist. The opposite is not the rest of a set.

Look your "no-something" replies don't prove shit, since those "no-something things do not exist. I mean even rich and poor are at most artificial opposites I mean what is the opposite of having 10.000 dollars that. Is it having no money? HAving 10. 000 debts is it having 20 000 dollars? It doesn't have an actual opposite. Oh and just for the record cats are not the opposite of dogs.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Look, the matter of the fact is that a Piano doesn't have an opposite. There is no "no-piano" it doesn't exist. The opposite is not the rest of a set.

Look your "no-something" replies don't prove shit, since those "no-something things do not exist. I mean even rich and poor are at most artificial opposites I mean what is the opposite of having 10.000 dollars that. Is it having no money? HAving 10. 000 debts is it having 20 000 dollars? It doesn't have an actual opposite. Oh and just for the record cats are not the opposite of dogs.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
please provide me with evidence which suggests that not everything has an opposite

Originally posted by lil bitchiness


Wow, you want me to prove that something does not exist. Are you sure that you are studying at a University currently? Are you sure you aren't a kindergarten drop out?

Look, we looked at the definition of "Opposite", it does not support your definition, your definition does not exist. Your definition of "opposite" is actually the definition of "complement". Before you go ahead and say it says "complement" in one of the definitions, read again, that is about to things that make up a whole. That is not given.


So still what is the opposite of having 10.000 dollars? What is the opposite of gravity? And I'd still would want you to show me where this opposite of a piano is. I mean you should be able since everything supposedly has an opposite (no it doesn't)

Well a non piano is one that is not a piano. It could be a wind instrument, or brass...........It just isn't a piano.. ..It could be a stick even...........just not a piano...
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Might I just ask, sweetie.

What's the ****ing point of that?

Does everything have an opposite?

'Yes, if you apply the prefix 'non-'.'

Ok, cya! I'm not sure, I suppose it was just the opposite of me being you...........lol

Originally posted by Bardock42
Wow, you want me to prove that something does not exist. Are you sure that you are studying at a University currently? Are you sure you aren't a kindergarten drop out?

Look, we looked at the definition of "Opposite", it does not support your definition, your definition does not exist. Your definition of "opposite" is actually the definition of "complement". Before you go ahead and say it says "complement" in one of the definitions, read again, that is about to things that make up a whole. That is not given.


So still what is the opposite of having 10.000 dollars? What is the opposite of gravity? And I'd still would want you to show me where this opposite of a piano is. I mean you should be able since everything supposedly has an opposite (no it doesn't)

Awwwh, whats the matter? You're all pissy now, and insluting because you have absolutely NO evidence for what you saying.
Technical term for that is ''talking out of one's ass''. This instance yours.

'kindergarden drop out'? Don't be pathetic.


Show me the evidence which suggest that there could not possibly be an opposite. A deffinition or a theory as to why this is impossible.

You have no grounds for claim apart from your own simple minded logic.


You know what else strikes me mind numbing apart from your arrogance?

You claiming that thousands and thousends of years old philosophy is ''wrong'' and ''stupid'' and basing that claim on absolutely nothing.
Damn those Chinese.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well a non piano is one that is not a piano. It could be a wind instrument, or brass...........It just isn't a piano.. ..It could be a stick even...........just not a piano...
I'm not sure, I suppose it was just the opposite of me being you...........lol

debbiejo, its pointless arguing. One thing worst than an ignorant person, is the one who is not willing to learn, or think outside what they have thought up.

Everything has an opposite, and although its not absolute, it is relative.

Apperantly it is sometimes difficult for people to comprehand that.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well a non piano is one that is not a piano. It could be a wind instrument, or brass...........It just isn't a piano.. ..It could be a stick even...........just not a piano...
I'm not sure, I suppose it was just the opposite of me being you...........lol

So your definition of opposite is "Something that is not the other part of the opposite" ...you know that the clue of "opposite" the thing that males it so awesomely useful and the reason why it is still around is because it makes sense the opposite is something TWO particular things may share. If a stick is the opposite of a piano and a cat is the opposite of a stick then a cat is a piano....and we all know that's not true, right?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
debbiejo, its pointless arguing. One thing worst than an ignorant person, is the one who is not willing to learn, or think outside what they have thought up.

Everything has an opposite, and although its not absolute, it is relative.

Apperantly it is sometimes difficult for people to comprehand that.

Oh of course if you want a subjective opposite that's easy, I mean I can make up that the opposite of a piano is a beer can and the opposite of a beer can is a piano. Great I made it up. So everything has an opposite if I made this opposite up? Great useful word this "opposite".

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Awwwh, whats the matter? You're all pissy now, and insluting because you have absolutely NO evidence for what you saying.
Technical term for that is ''talking out of one's ass''. This instance yours.

'kindergarden drop out'? Don't be pathetic.


Show me the evidence which suggest that there could not possibly be an opposite. A deffinition or a theory as to why this is impossible.

You have no grounds for claim apart from your own simple minded logic.


You know what else strikes me mind numbing apart from your arrogance?

You claiming that thousands and thousends of years old philosophy is ''wrong'' and ''stupid'' and basing that claim on absolutely nothing.
Damn those Chinese.

I asked you questions, give me answers. I supported my claim with the actual definition of the word opposite. I am not saying those philosophies are wrong, but guess what, the Chinese don't use the word "opposite" ..it is an English word, it has a definition that you can't just bend because it is the word you have learned in your philosophy classes. Not everything has an opposite, that's a fact. You just like the word "opposite", but it just doesn't mean what you want it to mean, sorry.

Put on you abstract hat.......Not everything we have given a definition to is a true definition..............at least to me....Oh and Albert Einstein too...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Put on you abstract hat.......Not everything we have given a definition to is a true definition..............at least to me....Oh and Albert Einstein too...

No, this is not an abstract thing.

There is a true definition of the word "opposite". That's what this thread is about.

The definitions of "opposite" that you folks made up have nothing to do with the topic, so leave 'em out, kay?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh of course if you want a subjective opposite that's easy, I mean I can make up that the opposite of a piano is a beer can and the opposite of a beer can is a piano. Great I made it up. So everything has an opposite if I made this opposite up? Great useful word this "opposite".



I asked you questions, give me answers. I supported my claim with the actual definition of the word opposite. I am not saying those philosophies are wrong, but guess what, the Chinese don't use the word "opposite" ..it is an English word, it has a definition that you can't just bend because it is the word you have learned in your philosophy classes. Not everything has an opposite, that's a fact. You just like the word "opposite", but it just doesn't mean what you want it to mean, sorry.

Posts and posts of irrelevant bullshit, and still no asnwer to my point.

I shall repet it once more -

Provide me with the theory, challenge or evidence that everything doesn't have an opposite!

I base my argument on Metaphysics and Chinese Philosophy. What do you base your argument on?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Posts and posts of irrelevant bullshit, and still no asnwer to my point.

I shall repet it once more -

Provide me with the theory, challenge or evidence that everything doesn't have an opposite!

I base my argument on Metaphysics and Chinese Philosophy. What do you base your argument on?

Bottom Quark: so far they have never found a Top Quark.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Bottom Quark: so far they have never found a Top Quark.

Which doesn't make it non existant, however...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Which doesn't make it non existant, however...

Yes, I'm not arguing with you, but it is just as likely that it does not exist. When they finish building that big accelerator, we may find out.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I base my argument on Metaphysics and Chinese Philosophy. What do you base your argument on?

I'm curious now; How much have you studied regarding Metaphysics and Chinese Philosophy? How long for?

Perhaps tell us who or where you've gathered this vast amount of knowledge from. I'm sure it's not another one of your cultural, monthly fads, I'm sure.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If this is another "I've studied it!" I.E: I've rented some books from the library, then save it, because anyone can do that.

If you have something to contribute to the discussion, contribute it, if not, do not post random pointless posts getting at me, for whatever reason.

This happens again, I will take it as trolling.

I'm asking you a very civil question, no need to be so insecure.

What Metaphysics material and Chinese Philosophy material have you studied, and for how long? Because I'm interested, as my cousin is here and has studied such subjects for five years. He seems to believe you're talking in a really uninformed way, regardless of if you are correct.

It's a civil, curious question. Why take it personal? You can't warn people because they're questioning you. You have as bad an attitude as some of the people here. I'm just asking how long you've studied it for, and what you've studied. Civilly, friendly, so why not afford a likewise reply?

-AC

If everything has an opposite, what is the opposite of fire?

Well, duh, the non-fire.

Originally posted by lord xyz
If everything has an opposite, what is the opposite of fire?

That would depend on how you define fire.

Some say ice, some say water.

-AC

I wasn't aware that people over the age of 10 actually still believed in the idea of "if it's not something, then it is its opposite."

What is the opposite of opposite?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That would depend on how you define fire.

Some say ice, some say water.

-AC That's stupid, an opposite is something that reverses what it's opposite to equally.

E.g. North -- South

If I travel north, to do the opposite would be to travel south.

Fire does not reverse ice or water, therefore it can't be opposite to either.

Equivelant.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm asking you a very civil question, no need to be so insecure.

What Metaphysics material and Chinese Philosophy material have you studied, and for how long? Because I'm interested, as my cousin is here and has studied such subjects for five years. He seems to believe you're talking in a really uninformed way, regardless of if you are correct.

It's a civil, curious question. Why take it personal? You can't warn people because they're questioning you. You have as bad an attitude as some of the people here. I'm just asking how long you've studied it for, and what you've studied. Civilly, friendly, so why not afford a likewise reply?

-AC

Actually, you asked me a civil question in a very rude manner. The best thing for you to do is ignore my posts, if you cannot help but be rude.

And you have no space to talk to me about my attitude, in all honesty.

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I did Classical Studies at A-level. We talked about Aristotle. Since then, I have, whenever the time, read a lot on Aristotle, and especially Metaphysics.

Explaining the world is something, i presume a lot of people would be interested in.

Second, idea of ying-yang is pretty wide known. The whole universe is made up of opposing forces, or opposites, each opposing while complimenting each other.

Opposites are never absolute, but relative. ying-yang.


Thus I was backing up my argument with the Metaphysics and Chines e Philosophy, while some people were backing it up with ''It just doens't have opposites''

I was hopping people would come up with a theoretical challenge to either of those philosophies at best. And by challenege, I mean a plausible example of why something cannot be.

Hey, sweety, philosophy is great and all, but the thing is it is wrong in this case. It is wrong because the actual definition of the word "opposite" in the English language does not apply to it. What is closer to the truth would be the word "complement". Those two are not synonymous.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually, you asked me a civil question in a very rude manner. The best thing for you to do is ignore my posts, if you cannot help but be rude.

If you cannot help but assume I'm being rude, the best thing for you to do is realise that books don't win debates.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I did Classical Studies at A-level. We talked about Aristotle. Since then, I have, whenever the time, read a lot on Aristotle, and especially Metaphysics.

So basically, it is what I said it is? You read a lot of books and therefore assume you are more of an authority in this debate because of it? I accused you of that and you went off on one.

You read about it and studied it at A-Level, wow, no seriously. Floored.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Explaining the world is something, i presume a lot of people would be interested in.

This is relevent how?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Thus I was backing up my argument with the Metaphysics and Chines e Philosophy, while some people were backing it up with ''It just doens't have opposites''

You're assuming that because you've read about some philosophers, you're an authority.

Did it, or does it not occur to you that...you know...other humans also read and have access to books and knowledge? You express an interest in many things and read up on them, splendid. I actually encourage people to learn more in their free time, but that doesn't entitle you to assume that you have some worthwhile and superior knowledge on it.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I was hopping people would come up with a theoretical challenge to either of those philosophies at best. And by challenege, I mean a plausible example of why something cannot be.

Fair enough, and I've got no problem with WHAT you're saying, Lil. You just seem to continually assume that you know more and have more right to speak simply because you've got an interest.

I find medicine interesting, I don't assume I know more about it.

-AC

Why can't we just get along?

I think only concepts can have true opposites.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If you cannot help but assume I'm being rude, the best thing for you to do is realise that books don't win debates.



So basically, it is what I said it is? You read a lot of books and therefore assume you are more of an authority in this debate because of it? I accused you of that and you went off on one.

You read about it and studied it at A-Level, wow, no seriously. Floored.



This is relevent how?



You're assuming that because you've read about some philosophers, you're an authority.

Did it, or does it not occur to you that...you know...other humans also read and have access to books and knowledge? You express an interest in many things and read up on them, splendid. I actually encourage people to learn more in their free time, but that doesn't entitle you to assume that you have some worthwhile and superior knowledge on it.



Fair enough, and I've got no problem with WHAT you're saying, Lil. You just seem to continually assume that you know more and have more right to speak simply because you've got an interest.

I find medicine interesting, I don't assume I know more about it.

-AC

I can do and say whatever I please, you have no right, authority nor knowledge to say what I assume or think.


And the fact that you came into a thread to tell ME what I am like, making absolutely no referance to the thread, is again, trolling.

I already warned you about trolling. This is the last call.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I can do and say whatever I please, you have no right, authority nor knowledge to say what I assume or think.


And the fact that you came into a thread to tell ME what I am like, making absolutely no referance to the thread, is again, trolling.

I already warned you about trolling. This is the last call.

You are wrong. He asked you where you got your "knowledge" about the subject from. That is on topic. Stop abusing your powers, just cause you are wrong.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are wrong. He asked you where you got your "knowledge" about the subject from. That is on topic. Stop abusing your powers, just cause you are wrong.
And I answered 10 times, where my claims came from.

Yet you are still to answer me. My claims are backed by Metaphysics and Chinese philosophy...and yours?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And I answered 10 times, where my claims came from.

Yet you are still to answer me. My claims are backed by Metaphysics and Chinese philosophy...and yours?

10 times is a little bit exaggerated. You answered once. Which is sufficient. Then you went ahead and threatened AC. Childish.

My claims come from the English language and the definition of the word. Which, well, beats all the shit you could ever read in a book. The word is defined. The way it is defined not everything has an "opposite". That's the end of the story. And nothing is actually backed by Metaphysic, Metaphysics are just not an accurate science, they are putting out an idea and thinking about it. And they certainly don't back anything cause there are very different ideas in the field of Metaphysics. But I see you learned a new word, that's cool.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why can't we just get along?

I think only concepts can have true opposites.

We can't get along cause one of us is claiming authority despite her (err, I mean their) total lack of it.

And I agree with that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
We can't get along cause one of us is claiming authority despite her (err, I mean their) total lack of it.

And I agree with that.

How do you spell pissed of mod? BAN

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How do you spell pissed of mod? BAN

She hasno right to Ban me. I didn't do anything wrong. Even if she does everyone would realize it, I can live with that.

Actually, Lil, it seems that you can't do or say whatever you please, since you're getting on AC's case for what he's saying. And his commenting on what you assume is similar, especially as earlier you attacked Bardock.

Coming into a thread on a forum such as this, where most of the debaters will know one another and have talked before, means that judgements based on each others' characters are a simple part of discussion. As for not making a relevent post, AC was challenging the 'base' of your argument. Just because he wasn't previously involved in the discussion doesn't mean he hasn't read the thread.

In fact, I'd be interested to know which part of 'Chinese Philosophy' you based your argument on. Repeatedly stating that you have done so is interesting, but not very helpful. In fact, your first related comment was four pages into your contribution to the discussion, which mainly consisted of you attacking Bardock. Your relevent comments actually changed tack partway through the argument, too, when you changed from a Positive/Negative stance to a more generic 'anything not the piano is the piano's opposite'.

Can you explain exactly why anything that isn't the piano (the mythical non piano) is the opposite of it? I'd argue that only forces and concepts can have true opposites, because everything else that exists within the universe share similarities.

Trickster, she expects it all to be taken at face value. The first hint that you don't think she's some ultra genius and she abuses the mod powers.

I edited my post when I thought it could be seen as disrespectful, before Lil even replied, but she still calls it trolling. Ridiculous. It wasn't trolling even if I left it in. I've not trolled her by any definition.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
My claims are backed by Metaphysics and Chinese philosophy...and yours?

Yes, A-level discussions and spare time reading. Hardly makes you more credible than anybody else here.

Everyone is asking you what you base your knowledge on, and you say "Metaphysics and Chinese Philosophy.", then expect us to just accept that.

Like you said, either contribute or don't.

Don't give me "last call" threats. Last call for what? Me pulling up on things you can't back up? I'm not trolling you and you know it. I came in a thread and suggested that you don't act all high and mighty because you've read books. We've all asked what you base your info on and you can't give us examples.

As for you telling me about being rude, you've replied remarkably rude to Bardock in this thread.

-AC

i dont have an opposite

yes...its anti-you

lol find him and ill believe u

Originally posted by Bardock42
10 times is a little bit exaggerated. You answered once. Which is sufficient. Then you went ahead and threatened AC. Childish.

My claims come from the English language and the definition of the word. Which, well, beats all the shit you could ever read in a book. The word is defined. The way it is defined not everything has an "opposite". That's the end of the story. And nothing is actually backed by Metaphysic, Metaphysics are just not an accurate science, they are putting out an idea and thinking about it. And they certainly don't back anything cause there are very different ideas in the field of Metaphysics. But I see you learned a new word, that's cool.

English deffinition of a word beats all the shit i can read in a book?
Right...

When Aristotle discussed reality and idea of opposites English language didnt even exist.
And when Chinese introduced the idea of ying-yang, English language didn't exist.

Also, I do not udnerstand how someone can prove a theory through English deffinition of a word.

Let me go prove Physics is right - by deining it in English!!

Originally posted by Trickster
Actually, Lil, it seems that you can't do or say whatever you please, since you're getting on AC's case for what he's saying. And his commenting on what you assume is similar, especially as earlier you attacked Bardock.

Coming into a thread on a forum such as this, where most of the debaters will know one another and have talked before, means that judgements based on each others' characters are a simple part of discussion. As for not making a relevent post, AC was challenging the 'base' of your argument. Just because he wasn't previously involved in the discussion doesn't mean he hasn't read the thread.

In fact, I'd be interested to know which part of 'Chinese Philosophy' you based your argument on. Repeatedly stating that you have done so is interesting, but not very helpful. In fact, your first related comment was four pages into your contribution to the discussion, which mainly consisted of you attacking Bardock. Your relevent comments actually changed tack partway through the argument, too, when you changed from a Positive/Negative stance to a more generic 'anything not the piano is the piano's opposite'.

Can you explain exactly why anything that isn't the piano (the mythical non piano) is the opposite of it? I'd argue that only forces and concepts can have true opposites, because everything else that exists within the universe share similarities.

The discussion was flowing finely, until people begun to be rude, then when the sae is thrown back at them, they can't handle it.
I tolerated Bardock calling me stupid, passing sly comments regarding 'university or kindegarden dropout comments' which were unecessary.

When someone said something back - he called you and AC to visit the thread and be on his side. Hmmm...

I would tell you to refer to the earlier posts and read the thread, but I am pretty sure you have already made up your mind.

At any rate, you can PM me with your concerns regarding what I said and the way I conducted myself - not on the board, please.
Same goes for Bardock anyone else - please use PMs from now on.

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Second, chinese philosophy of oppoistes Im sure you know. Its ying-yang. The idea that whole universe is made up of the opposing forces - ying and yang. They are not independent and they are not absolute - they are relative, but they all have an opposite.

What is opposite of you - would actually be a female. Becuse you cannot be defined into ''one thing'' neither can your opposite - which would be a little strange.

Matter has less ''absolute'' opposites, and they are far more relative - but existant.


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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Trickster, she expects it all to be taken at face value. The first hint that you don't think she's some ultra genius and she abuses the mod powers.

I edited my post when I thought it could be seen as disrespectful, before Lil even replied, but she still calls it trolling. Ridiculous. It wasn't trolling even if I left it in. I've not trolled her by any definition.



Yes, A-level discussions and spare time reading. Hardly makes you more credible than anybody else here.

Everyone is asking you what you base your knowledge on, and you say "Metaphysics and Chinese Philosophy.", then expect us to just accept that.

Like you said, either contribute or don't.

Don't give me "last call" threats. Last call for what? Me pulling up on things you can't back up? I'm not trolling you and you know it. I came in a thread and suggested that you don't act all high and mighty because you've read books. We've all asked what you base your info on and you can't give us examples.

As for you telling me about being rude, you've replied remarkably rude to Bardock in this thread.

-AC

I am not going to tell you again. If you came here to argue how I conducted myself to bradock, use PMs.

This is for discussion only. And I am absolutey serious about tis.

If you have something to say to me, regarding my modding, or the way I conduct myself, use PMs, not the board.



Lets continue this thread in discussion only.

I don't feel the need to use a PM, but I'd just liek to say that I wasn't called by anybody into this thread. I don't often post here, I just read the threads that interest me. When your disagreement blossomed, I felt moved to respond with my PoV. However, I will not post again on this subject.

Originally posted by Trickster
I don't feel the need to use a PM, but I'd just liek to say that I wasn't called by anybody into this thread. I don't often post here, I just read the threads that interest me. When your disagreement blossomed, I felt moved to respond with my PoV. However, I will not post again on this subject.

Thank you. And apologies for my assumption.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
English deffinition of a word beats all the shit i can read in a book?
Right...

When Aristotle discussed reality and idea of opposites English language didnt even exist.
And when Chinese introduced the idea of ying-yang, English language didn't exist.

Also, I do not udnerstand how someone can prove a theory through English deffinition of a word.

Let me go prove Physics is right - by deining it in English!!

Haha. And there's where your mistake lies. Indeed when Aristotle made up his theories (Aristotle is by no way infallible, by the way) the word "opposite" didn't exist. So he used a different word. IF he had used a word that exactly means "opposite" as it does now exist in the English language he would be wrong, since not everything has an opposite, that happens to be a fact by the way. I can only assume, but you did read them books about Aristotle in English, right?


Also, stop being childish about the topic, it is a discussion and debate topic. That absolutely includes questionings one sources and knowledge about a subject, especially when they pulled their "facts" and an assumed authority right out of their ass. Stop dodging the topic, it is very pathetic and to be honest it's more against the rules than anything AC, Trickster or I have done in this thread.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Haha. And there's where your mistake lies. Indeed when Aristotle made up his theories (Aristotle is by no way infallible, by the way) the word "opposite" didn't exist. So he used a different word. IF he had used a word that exactly means "opposite" as it does now exist in the English language he would be wrong, since not everything has an opposite, that happens to be a fact by the way. I can only assume, but you did read them books about Aristotle in English, right?


Also, stop being childish about the topic, it is a discussion and debate topic. That absolutely includes questionings one sources and knowledge about a subject, especially when they pulled their "facts" and an assumed authority right out of their ass. Stop dodging the topic, it is very pathetic and to be honest it's more against the rules than anything AC, Trickster or I have done in this thread.

You assume wrong. I read it in Serbo-Croat.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You assume wrong. I read it in Serbo-Croat.

Fair enough, I should have assumed you didn't read them in Greek, did you?

Also, what about not only addressing one point of my post? It's rude.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Fair enough, I should have assumed you didn't read them in Greek, did you?

Also, what about not only addressing one point of my post? It's rude.

Bardock, I am tolerating your rude attitude, so please stop it. I do not call you names, I do not call you childish, nor do I imply anything regarding your school or your intelligance. I would expect the same back from you.

As far as Aristotle goes, you did not read him in Greek either, thus comparison regading languages is irrelevant

What is teh point I failed to address?







Second of Seven Cosmic laws -

The second of the Seven Cosmic Laws is Polarity
(GH - In Waves and Out Waves, In Phase and Opposite Phase Waves)

Everything has its opposite, & opposites manifest with a spectrum of polarities between them. Land has valleys as well as mountains. Magnets have opposite poles. People possess varying degrees of strength, intelligence & wisdom. Yin is complemented by Yang. Harmony is achieved by establishing & maintaining equilibrium between opposing forces. The interaction of Parallelism with Polarity results in the phenomena of reflections. Just as a mirror absorbs, refracts, & distorts the light that it reflects, so also can the reflections of Truth be very murky indeed! Supreme clarity of mind is required to discern what is actually real.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Oh and please provide me with evidence which suggests that not everything has an opposite, because maybe then I can stop thinking you're talking out of your ass.


Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Awwwh, whats the matter? You're all pissy now, and insluting because you have absolutely NO evidence for what you saying.
Technical term for that is ''talking out of one's ass''. This instance yours.


You have no grounds for claim apart from your own simple minded logic.


You know what else strikes me mind numbing apart from your arrogance?


Originally posted by lil bitchiness
debbiejo, its pointless arguing. One thing worst than an ignorant person, is the one who is not willing to learn, or think outside what they have thought up.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Posts and posts of irrelevant bullshit, and still no asnwer to my point.


...err?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Bardock, I am tolerating your rude attitude, so please stop it. I do not call you names, I do not call you childish, nor do I imply anything regarding your school or your intelligance. I would expect the same back from you.

As far as Aristotle goes, you did not read him in Greek either, thus comparison regading languages is irrelevant

What is teh point I failed to address?







Second of Seven Cosmic laws -

The second of the Seven Cosmic Laws is Polarity
(GH - In Waves and Out Waves, In Phase and Opposite Phase Waves)

Everything has its opposite, & opposites manifest with a spectrum of polarities between them. Land has valleys as well as mountains. Magnets have opposite poles. People possess varying degrees of strength, intelligence & wisdom. Yin is complemented by Yang. Harmony is achieved by establishing & maintaining equilibrium between opposing forces. The interaction of Parallelism with Polarity results in the phenomena of reflections. Just as a mirror absorbs, refracts, & distorts the light that it reflects, so also can the reflections of Truth be very murky indeed! Supreme clarity of mind is required to discern what is actually real.

There's an actual word for that..and I even happen to know it. It's hypocrite.

No, it is rather important. He did not use opposite. We do actually have a word called "opposite" in the English language. It doesn't fit the theory. We shouldn't adjust, bend or simply ignore the actual word in a debate about the word.

If you remember correctly you only replied to one little part of my post where I assumed you probably read about Aristotle in English.


The thrd of the 5 laws I just made up is about polarity

Not everything has its opposite, & opposites don't manifest with a spectrum of polarities between them. Valleys are not the true opposite Mountains, but rather an opposite humankind has made up for a slight difference in distance from the core of the earth . Magnets do actually have opposite poles. People possess varying degrees of strength, intelligence & wisdom which do not fit the term opposite. Yin is complemented by Yang in this theory, and we should especially note the word "complemented". Supreme clarity of mind is required to discern what is actually real of course I just add that to keep the superiority and total control of my theories.


Look, lil bitchiness, quoting some philosophical laws, that are in not supported by actual science, just doesn't make your point any more right. I have something to base my point on. You, well, read a book about someone making a thought experiment.

I am going to be a bigger person here, and not bother quoting you calling me stupid, telling me about im a kindergarden drop out, childish and generaly provoking...etc.

Look back Bardock, you're the one who told me that if I believe something you don't, it makes me stupid.
Drop the magifying glass and pick up a mirror. By every one of my posts, add your post prior to that.

I have asked nicely to drop with the arrogant and rude posts. If you cannot do that, then please do not respond to my posts.

As for your argument. I think it is self explanitary.
You make up your theories, I don't mind. But don't pass them as facts - because they are supported by nothing other than your need to win an internet argument.


If you want to further argue ''what i did to you'' use the PM, not this thread. Try and respect that, if you can.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I am going to be a bigger person here, and not bother quoting you calling me stupid, telling me about im a kindergarden drop out, childish and generaly provoking...etc.

Look back Bardock, you're the one who told me that if I believe something you don't, it makes me stupid.
Drop the magifying glass and pick up a mirror. By every one of my posts, add your post prior to that.

I have asked nicely to drop with the arrogant and rude posts. If you cannot do that, then please do not respond to my posts.

As for your argument. I think it is self explanitary.
You make up your theories, I don't mind. But don't pass them as facts - because they are supported by nothing other than your need to win an internet argument.


If you want to further argue ''what i did to you'' use the PM, not this thread. Try and respect that, if you can.

Yeah, you are the bigger person. No wait, you denied doing it, I didn't. I actually admit to my posts and thoughts and take responsibility for what I do.

Oh my, and there's the hypocrisy again.

They are no more rude than yours. And lets face it you prefer that they are a little more aggressive than usual so you can avoid all points and just go to your stubborn mode...focusing on it, despite yourself being just as rude.

No, I don't make up my theories. Chinese Philosophers make up their theories. I just look at the definition of a word we are talking about and point out what it actually means, no theory will change that. The matter of the fact is not everything has an opposite, given we use the actual definition of the word. The "supported by nothing other than your need to win an Internet argument." was quite rude again, is it your major goal to be a hypocrite, since you achieve it just nicely.

I will reply to you in the way you reply to me (that means if you want to take it to PMs then do so, don't tell me to do it though, you are the one addressing me on the forums so I will reply on the forums). If you want the last word in this thread you have to convince me that you are right, which will be hard, since you are wrong.

The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong is to let him have his own way.
- Josh Billings