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This is a slugfest, onslaught can use no powers except his physical strength.Who wins?

juggs

if oughnslaught only uses strength he has no shields or nothing he looses

or wins cause of his energy form in his shield armour

Onslaught. Onslaught is WAY stronger than Juggernaut.

ahh finally got a sig

took alot of time that did

oughnslaughts brute will bring the win

seeing that the final onslaught can't be physically hurt by anyone, not even the hulk, he wins easiy.

Onslaught is too versatile. And probably a bit smarter too.

onslaught no contest.

This fight already happened, and Onslaught throwed Juggernaut from Canada to New York.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Onslaught is too versatile. And probably a bit smarter too. a bit smarter?

Also Onsluaght ripped the gem of C out of Jugs.

yeah, but no mental powers.

Originally posted by trolly_crouchjr
This is a slugfest, onslaught can use no powers except his physical strength.Who wins?

Onslaught FTW

How can Onslaught hurt Juggs physically?
Throwing Juggs around wouldn't faze him.

How would Juggs not get his ass handed to him if it's "no powers" other than strength?

Kinda throws his shield out of the window.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
How would Juggs not get his ass handed to him if it's "no powers" other than strength?

Kinda throws his shield out of the window.

*rolls eyes*

Then Onslaught can't really exist, you know, being psychic energy and what not. Last I checked, that wasn't strength alone...

Originally posted by Soljer
*rolls eyes*

Then Onslaught can't really exist, you know, being psychic energy and what not. Last I checked, that wasn't strength alone...

Well, if that was really the case, then I suppose Juggernaut would just be Cain Marko pre-cyttorak?

I was just making it something other than, "oh, (fill in brawler here) loses 'cuz nothing can hurt the Juggernaut."

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Well, if that was really the case, then I suppose Juggernaut would just be Cain Marko pre-cyttorak?

I was just making it something other than, "oh, (fill in brawler here) loses 'cuz nothing can hurt the Juggernaut."

No, it's be Cain Marko with the Juggernaut's strength versus either a puff of psionic energy or a cripple and an old greying man.

Either way, if you wanted to limit it to strength alone, Cain Marko'd certainly win.

Now, if we took the SPIRIT of the thread - slug fest - and applied a little bit of logic and common sense to it...

Didn't Onslaught make Juggernaut b**@* up like a baby? I thought he hit him so hard that he knocked him into another state... and depowered him at the same time.


Onslaught everytime.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Didn't Onslaught make Juggernaut b**@* up like a baby? I thought he hit him so hard that he knocked him into another state... and depowered him at the same time.


Onslaught everytime.

This is onslaught without powers, just strength.
He used powers (not strength) to depower Juggs.
So physically, Onslaught can't hurt Juggs. Psionically yes.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is onslaught without powers, just strength.
He used powers (not strength) to depower Juggs.
So physically, Onslaught can't hurt Juggs. Psionically yes.

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Onslaught. stomp.

did juggernaut even manage to scratch Onslaught's armour?

If onslaught wills it he can punch juggs all the way to Dc (the comic)

Onslaught has no other powers other than strength here, the only reason he did what he did to Juggernaut is because he is a being with vast psychic power.

Not to mention it was one of the worst Marvel events ever and only bought into play to kill off all their dud titles.

I mean ripping the Gem out of Juggies chest? come on!

Onslaught has the power to boost his strength to any level he wants

He could litterally pull a supes 1 million and break the time continum with only his fist if he wanted to

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Onslaught has the power to boost his strength to any level he wants

He could litterally pull a supes 1 million and break the time continum with only his fist if he wanted to

ermm

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
ermm Dont you trust me?

What?

HE CAN!

There is no way in hell Onslaught is affecting Juggs with just pure strength. Throwing him around, well, what's that going to do?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Onslaught is too versatile. And probably a bit smarter too.

Onslaught is MUCH smarter than Juggy.... And what happened to Juggy in the comic was purely physical (minus the mind block) meaning that this has actually happened...

However, since Onslaught saga was the worst writing for sometime, if this with no CIS or PIS, Juggy would win physically.

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Onslaught is MUCH smarter than Juggy.... And what happened to Juggy in the comic was purely physical (minus the mind block) meaning that this has actually happened...

However, since Onslaught saga was the worst writing for sometime, if this with no CIS or PIS, Juggy would win physically.

I'm pretty sure that it was psionic energy that caused Onslaught to reach through Cain's chest for the gem. After that, then it was pure physical (throwing him to New York).

Onslaught for the win?

Nate grey used his psi armor to get up to class 100 strength or higher, basicly onslaught(xavier) learned this trick from nate, and i can see him get higher strength levels.....but if that does not count(psionicly uping his str) then maybe a stalemate, maybe a bfr in onslaughts favor

Alot of questions though..dealing with onslaught and psionics

I don't know. I thought Onslaught was using psionics to penetrate Jugg's chest. I mean doesn't he have psionic tk? Maybe he was just using pure strength though (which would suck).

I come to this conclusion

1. The writing was so bad that it shouldn't be allowed as canon on KMC.
For having the gem in Cain's chest proves that the writer didn't know much about Juggernaut in the first place. Actually I think it isn't allowed on KMC already (because its PIS).

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't know. I thought Onslaught was using psionics to penetrate Jugg's chest. I mean doesn't he have psionic tk? Maybe he was just using pure strength though (which would suck).

I come to this conclusion

1. The writing was so bad that it shouldn't be allowed as canon on KMC.
For having the gem in Cain's chest proves that the writer didn't know much about Juggernaut in the first place. Actually I think it isn't allowed on KMC already (because its PIS).

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Originally posted by guy222
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I already saw those before I posted.
It's still possible that he was using psionics through his fingers to negate Juggs enchantment. I mean isn't Onslaught pure psionic energy anyway?

Its all moot anyway. Since we all disregard that feat as PIS and bad writing. Thus Onslaught can't do that for real. Especially since the gem is not in his chest.

if Onslaught is "purely psionic" then how did Hulk manage to hit him?
does Hulk emit psionic energies in his punches?

Originally posted by janus77
if Onslaught is "purely psionic" then how did Hulk manage to hit him?
does Hulk emit psionic energies in his punches?

Yes. 313

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Yes. 313
rofl

Hulk's powers come from the psionic discharge of his many splintered personages... Bruce Banner is actually the most powerful Psionic mutant in the known universe!!!





oh, and I'm copyrighting that idea!

Originally posted by Whittdawg92
seeing that the final onslaught can't be physically hurt by anyone, not even the hulk, he wins easiy. so galactus couldnt hurt him?



wanna retract that statement now?

See, those scans, if by pure strength, just prove the that version of Onslaught has more power in his two fingers than Thor does in the Godblast.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
See, those scans, if by pure strength, just prove the that version of Onslaught has more power in his two fingers than Thor does in the Godblast.
and that juggernaut is not "invulnerable" not "unstoppable", basically not very indestructible at all.

Onslaught may be powerful, but he was fought by Hulk, not a psionically gifted character.

so Onslaught isn't exactly in the "Galactus leagues" is he?
he's powerful enough to physically stomp on juggernaut, that's all.

What did Onslaught do to deserve so much hype he isn't even Skyfather level, he is barely above Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by janus77
and that juggernaut is not "invulnerable" not "unstoppable", basically not very indestructible at all.

Onslaught may be powerful, but he was fought by Hulk, not a psionically gifted character.

so Onslaught isn't exactly in the "Galactus leagues" is he?
he's powerful enough to physically stomp on juggernaut, that's all.

Onslaught didn't physically pinch the Gem out of his chest. Onslaught has reality warping powers as well as all sorts of mental powers. So he willed the Gem there and basically warped reality to pull it out of Cain's chest.

That moment alone is PIS. And on KMC only the best moments are considered in a fight like this. Because Juggernaut has taken far worse than that.

Also Marvel says that He magnetically threw Juggs to NJ.

Holy crap, I can't believe I forgot this!

That was not a fully powered Juggernaut. Before that incident Cain was in a different Dimension (All New Exiles) that drained his power significantly. So he wasn't his good ole invulnerable self during that incident. So when he returned he was greeted by his ever loving step brother.

Later his powers were returned to him after he escaped the ruby.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Onslaught didn't physically pinch the Gem out of his chest. Onslaught has reality warping powers as well as all sorts of mental powers. So he willed the Gem there and basically warped reality to pull it out of Cain's chest.

That moment alone is PIS. And on KMC only the best moments are considered in a fight like this. Because Juggernaut has taken far worse than that.

Also Marvel says that He magnetically threw Juggs to NJ.
magnetism is a physical force.
repulsion/attraction of material substances...
my point stands.

Originally posted by janus77
magnetism is a physical force.
repulsion/attraction of material substances...
my point stands.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Holy crap, I can't believe I forgot this!

That was not a fully powered Juggernaut. Before that incident Cain was in a different Dimension (All New Exiles) that drained his power significantly. So he wasn't his good ole invulnerable self during that incident. So when he returned he was greeted by his ever loving step brother.

Later his powers were returned to him after he escaped the ruby.

magnetism is not a physical force, it has no physical manifestation.

Why do people make threads like this then use PIS's to back it up, Onslaught (although a cool character) was subject to the worst writing in a long time....
This is basically saying Captain america vs Hulk Physically, Hulk obviously would win but Captain America beat him that in a comic, the same comic where he died from a bullet... Then again Captain America has also made Onslaught bleed so...

Moral of story, DONT USE PIS's as "evidence"

And about "magnetically throwing Juggy"

http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=juggybeatsmagnetolq8.png

It wouldnt work...

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Why do people make threads like this then use PIS's to back it up, Onslaught (although a cool character) was subject to the worst writing in a long time....
This is basically saying Captain america vs Hulk Physically, Hulk obviously would win but Captain America beat him that in a comic, the same comic where he died from a bullet... Then again Captain America has also made Onslaught bleed so...

Moral of story, DONT USE PIS's as "evidence"

And about "magnetically throwing Juggy"

http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=juggybeatsmagnetolq8.png

It wouldnt work...

That pic is from a What if? comic. Plus where talking Onslaught over Mags.

Originally posted by janus77
if Onslaught is "purely psionic" then how did Hulk manage to hit him?
does Hulk emit psionic energies in his punches?

I could be speculating here. That's why I've said it in question form (and not stating it).

Can't psionic energy be converted into some type of mass like that of Jean's force fields and Sue's constructs, etc.?

I see Onslaught as one big energy construct. Maybe I'm wrong though.