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alrighty....these x-men VS the fantastic four



storm, psylock, cannonball, dust, and mercury


VS

the fantastic four

the x-men have five members due to the fact that dust and mercury are a little innecpierenced, and they don't have a super-strong person on the team.

FF in less than 60 seconds. Two of those are not even X-men actually.

Originally posted by Omega-level
FF in less than 60 seconds. Two of those are not even X-men actually.

care to explain how?

It's stormfront, guys, just feed her imagination, say that "Storm lyke baets the funktastic fuor!!11" and maybe she'll go away.

Two of those are not even X-men, just kids in training, the Invisible Woman is at least as powerful as Betsy and Ororo, so they can't win by raw power alone, and Storm maybe a good leader, but she's nowhere near the strategist Richards is; actually, she's nowhere near the strategist Cyclops is.

the x-men have mind powers on their side, gotta count for something right?

does anyone care to explain how the fantastic four win so easily? saying they win counts for nothing unless you can back it up

Fantastic four knows all of the xmen's powers, Thing is taking out Cannon ball and Psylock. Invisable woman put's fields over every one else and wraps the fight up while reed and jonny play patti cake.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Fantastic four knows all of the xmen's powers, Thing is taking out Cannon ball and Psylock. Invisable woman put's fields over every one else and wraps the fight up while reed and jonny play patti cake.

cannonball is very quick, thing isn't just gonna take him out. plus i am not clued up on all Betsy's powers but she is a telepath right? she can take others out with her mind.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thing is taking out Cannon ball and Psylock. Invisable woman put's fields over every one else and wraps the fight up while reed and jonny play patti cake.

1)storm is easily taking out the thing, she's had him on his knees screaming in pain before...it'll happen again.

2)cannonball and psylock together could take human torch

3) mercury just has to distract reed, which she is capable of doing...she's not going to beat him just distract him

4)dust will distract sue...dust can be inside sue's body. to take dust out sue will have to almost kill herself

Fantastic Four win (because of Invisible Woman simultaneously crushing the opposing team's vital organs).

FF in a flash. Johnny goes nova and kills the opponents easily.

Originally posted by stormfront13
alrighty....these x-men VS the fantastic four



storm, psylock, cannonball, dust, and mercury


VS

the fantastic four

the x-men have five members due to the fact that dust and mercury are a little innecpierenced, and they don't have a super-strong person on the team.

Psylocke wins by herself. Thus, the X-Men win 9/10 times.

dust doesnt have vital organs....shes.....dust


Cannonball isnt gonna be taken out by anybody on this team
He can feed off kinetic energy and well they just happen to have HT who would power him up, and hes taken a Gladiator "planet busting" full confidence punch. Storm has so many different powers its crazy. And with dust being able to literaly tear your skin off and BECOME dust, well.......I dont see the FF winning

honestly is this that much of a lopsided match?

No.

X-men win 9/10

Pyslocke is overkill, Her TK protects them from Nova, and she mindrapes them all.

I honestly don't think it's that bad of a match, it's just a terror to hear Stormfront to talk about Ororo's omniversal powers.

Originally posted by What If...
No.

X-men win 9/10

Pyslocke is overkill, Her TK protects them from Nova, and she mindrapes them all.

psylock doesn't have tp...only tk

Originally posted by Soljer
I honestly don't think it's that bad of a match, it's just a terror to hear Stormfront to talk about Ororo's omniversal powers.

where in this thread have i mentioned anything about storms so called omniversal powers?

Storm is a naughty girl that you'd find walking hollywood boulevard. Her nickname is pestilence, as she spread a deadly disease she contracted in Africa.

Originally posted by What If...


what?

Well is it TK Betsy or TP?

Originally posted by What If...


that is the goofiest/funniest jubilee, thing, i have seen in the history of jubilee things

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
that is the goofiest/funniest jubilee, thing, i have seen in the history of jubilee things That's from the X-Men Cartoon Maker.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's from the X-Men Cartoon Maker.
\
whoa

i used to have Batman cartoon maker
i used to make batman movies all the time
oh gosh
they were so goofy.
nastalgia overcomeing me

my comptuers "too fast" for it now


they seriosuly need to make an "updated", but still toony batman/xmen CM
those are sooooooooo fun to dick around with

they are fun to what?

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
\
whoa

i used to have Batman cartoon maker
i used to make batman movies all the time
oh gosh
they were so goofy.
nastalgia overcomeing me

my comptuers "too fast" for it now


they seriosuly need to make an "updated", but still toony batman/xmen CM
those are sooooooooo fun to dick around with I think there are programs to tweak some of the older programs so that they run properly... Runtime somethign or other.. .

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
Well is it TK Betsy or TP?

tk betsy

Originally posted by stormfront13
1)storm is easily taking out the thing, she's had him on his knees screaming in pain before...it'll happen again.

2)cannonball and psylock together could take human torch

3) mercury just has to distract reed, which she is capable of doing...she's not going to beat him just distract him

4)dust will distract sue...dust can be inside sue's body. to take dust out sue will have to almost kill herself

Hmm

As I recall Ben KO'ed Storm and most of the X-men with one Thunderclap

If Cannonball touches Torch he dies.

Johnny turns Dust into Glass.

The only threat to the FF here is Psylocke and she dosent even have TP, thus FF takes this 10/10

Originally posted by Grimm22
Hmm

As I recall Ben KO'ed Storm and most of the X-men with one Thunderclap

If Cannonball touches Torch he dies.

Johnny turns Dust into Glass.

Pretty Much

Originally posted by Grimm22
Hmm

As I recall Ben KO'ed Storm and most of the X-men with one Thunderclap

If Cannonball touches Torch he dies.

Johnny turns Dust into Glass.

1)storm also had ben on his knees screaming in pain as well.

2)cannonball has a force-field that would protect him, and his force-field negates kinetic energy...heat and fire are a form of kinetic energy

3)johnny won't have time to attack dust when he's being occupied by psylock and cannonball

Originally posted by Grimm22
The only threat to the FF here is Psylocke and she dosent even have TP, thus FF takes this 10/10

...But she has high-level TK.

X-Men win.

Originally posted by stormfront13
1)storm also had ben on his knees screaming in pain as well.

2)cannonball has a force-field that would protect him, and his force-field negates kinetic energy...heat and fire are a form of kinetic energy

3)johnny won't have time to attack dust when he's being occupied by psylock and cannonball

This is one of the few times that I've agreed with each and everything you've said in a post before.

Originally posted by stormfront13
1)storm also had ben on his knees screaming in pain as well.

2)cannonball has a force-field that would protect him, and his force-field negates kinetic energy...heat and fire are a form of kinetic energy

3)johnny won't have time to attack dust when he's being occupied by psylock and cannonball

First off, Ben dosent scream in pain.

He has been tortured before and he never screamed in pain

Second, Lightning dosent hurt Ben, so what is storm going to do?!?

Last, Johnny's flames are not kinetic energy

arent dust and mercury new mutants?

Johnny's fire is what then?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...But she has high-level TK.

X-Men win.

Sue kills her before she can do anything

She then kills Storm and Cannonball.

Johnny then kills Dust and Mercury.

TK is faster... + Psylocke is ninja.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
TK is faster... + Psylocke is ninja.

Being a ninja isnt going to save her from Sue

Either way, the FF win

Ninja. Better reflexes. And TK is faster. Sue is KTFO.

Originally posted by Grimm22
First off, Ben dosent scream in pain.

he has before...



and?



yeah...lightning does hurt him...



then what exactly are they?

Originally posted by Grimm22

Either way, the FF win

care to explain how?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
This is one of the few times that I've agreed with each and everything you've said in a post before.


ha must be my lucky day

fire isnt kinetic energy?

its moving molecules. It would actually strengthen his shield. Hell there was a cannonball vs Superman match that made a load of pages worth, and heat vision was a common said tactic that would actually backfire on Supers

Originally posted by Grimm22
First off, Ben dosent scream in pain.

He has been tortured before and he never screamed in pain

Second, Lightning dosent hurt Ben, so what is storm going to do?!?

Last, Johnny's flames are not kinetic energy

Sam will be just fine in his shield as long as he's blasting. Torch couldn't do a damn thing to him in this state.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Sue kills her before she can do anything

She then kills Storm and Cannonball.

Johnny then kills Dust and Mercury.

I don't understand how you can be so biased.

If anything, Betsy kills Sue before she can do anything. TK = Faster.

Hm...heating up mercury...dunno why, but that doesn't appear to be a very useful strategy.

Sam could take the Torch easily. Same for Thing and for Mr. F. And with the rest of the team they could take out Sue.

cannonball is way more underestimated that i expected

cant CB hold them in his shield as well? While its not as good as IW he could hold HT and have him just power him up with his flame....

Originally posted by stormfront13
he has before...

and?

yeah...lightning does hurt him...



You obviously know nothing about Ben, his character or his powers, so yeah you arent one to talk

Originally posted by Blair Wind
fire isnt kinetic energy?

its moving molecules. It would actually strengthen his shield. Hell there was a cannonball vs Superman match that made a load of pages worth, and heat vision was a common said tactic that would actually backfire on Supers

Oh

Well I was just assuming that Kinetic Energy is energy created by friction or more or less any kind of movement and since Johnny dosent need to move to go nova...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't understand how you can be so biased.

If anything, Betsy kills Sue before she can do anything. TK = Faster.

Hm...heating up mercury...dunno why, but that doesn't appear to be a very useful strategy.

How is TK faster?!?

As soon as Sue's bubbles form in Psylocke's brain she is dead

Originally posted by Grimm22
How is TK faster?!?

As soon as Sue's bubbles form in Psylocke's brain she is dead TP>TK>Sue

Less processes.

Example, move a pen.

TK: 'Move pen'
Sue: 'Create construct of a specific size, shape etc' 'move pen'

Additionally she's ninja, better reflexes.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Oh

Well I was just assuming that Kinetic Energy is energy created by friction or more or less any kind of movement and since Johnny dosent need to move to go nova...


well....to bad thats also considered kinetic energy

X-team wins.

3/3

FF takes Galactus and Dr. Doom, but lose to a team with two 16 year-olds? The Invisible Woman is a match to almost any, or any, Omega-Level mutant, The Thing is strongest than any X-man but Juggs, The Human Torch can go Super-Nova, and Reed, along with Dr. Doom, and perhaps above him, is the best strategist in the Marvel Universe, while Storm isn't even close to be the best strategist of the X-men. Again, FF wins this easily.

It's always amusing when people use "The FF take on Galactus" as an argument as if using their powers alone they logically stand any chance against non-jobbing Galactus whatsoever. Speed from the Young Avengers is something around 16 years old. Doesn't mean he can't arguably take out the Fantastic Four himself.

Originally posted by Omega-level
FF takes Galactus and Dr. Doom, but lose to a team with two 16 year-olds? The Invisible Woman is a match to almost any, or any, Omega-Level mutant, The Thing is strongest than any X-man but Juggs, The Human Torch can go Super-Nova, and Reed, along with Dr. Doom, and perhaps above him, is the best strategist in the Marvel Universe, while Storm isn't even close to be the best strategist of the X-men. Again, FF wins this easily. With a name like that I can't tell if you're being sarcastic..

But you know name dropping isn't a valid argument.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's always amusing when people use "The FF take on Galactus" as an argument as if using their powers alone they logically stand any chance against non-jobbing Galactus whatsoever. Speed from the Young Avengers is something around 16 years old. Doesn't mean he can't arguably take out the Fantastic Four himself. One way to look at it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
TP>TK>Sue

Less processes.

Example, move a pen.

TK: 'Move pen'
Sue: 'Create construct of a specific size, shape etc' 'move pen'

Additionally she's ninja, better reflexes.

Being a ninja has nothing to do with this.

However, you make a good point, BUT Sue has been using her powers a lot longer than Psylocke has and im sure she can take out Psylocke before she can.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Being a ninja has nothing to do with this. Being specifically trained to react, think and move quicker than a normal person has nothing to do with the speed at which a person can act?

Originally posted by Grimm22
However, you make a good point, BUT Sue has been using her powers a lot longer than Psylocke has and im sure she can take out Psylocke before she can. Practice makes perfect if and only if the practice if perfect.

A person who has been alive longer may not be as skilled as a person who has had more intense training in the same skill.

But I see why you had to disregard the being a ninja thing, it was so that the speed gap between Psylocke and Sue was smaller. Sadly since being a ninja means an increased speed, and she IS a ninja. that gap that you wished to narrow will not be narrowed.

Isin't it true in the MU that one force field cannot be created inside of another one? (heard that somwhere) In that case Sam can stay blasting the whole time and Sue can not put bubbles in his brain. He can rip through Reed, pierce Sue's force fields, and Thing is an easy win. He can absorb all of Things punches and with the help of the others the X team takes this with ease.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Being specifically trained to react, think and move quicker than a normal person has nothing to do with the speed at which a person can act?

Practice makes perfect if and only if the practice if perfect.

A person who has been alive longer may not be as skilled as a person who has had more intense training in the same skill.

But I see why you had to disregard the being a ninja thing, it was so that the speed gap between Psylocke and Sue was smaller. Sadly since being a ninja means an increased speed, and she IS a ninja. that gap that you wished to narrow will not be narrowed.

Touche

Fine, Psylocke wins.

However without Psylocke this is a massacure

How? Cannonball is indestructible
He can absorb and power up from Kinetic Energy. He can capture HT and Reed in his shield, and cannonball at the Thing.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
How? Cannonball is indestructible
He can absorb and power up from Kinetic Energy. He can capture HT and Reed in his shield, and cannonball at the Thing.

Sue would rip Cannonball in half

His sheilds cannot protect him from Sue

Since when? You have any scans that can back that up? He is indestructable and has taken a super shot from Gladiator

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Since when? You have any scans that can back that up? He is indestructable and has taken a super shot from Gladiator

Sue's bubbles arent kinetic energy.

Thus he has no protection from her.

He can FEED off kinetic energy. He can block all energy
Are you seriously going to say that Sue can hit him with a blast and have it actually hurt him?

besides if you want to get techincal, any of her bubbles movements would have kinetic energy

Originally posted by Grimm22
Sue's bubbles arent kinetic energy.

Thus he has no protection from her. If the forcefeild move, or colides it will produce kinetic energy.

Since kinetic energy is movement, and fire is still moving molecules heat is movement (which is why friction produces heat)

A pull or a tuf will require kinetic energy (movement energy)

Originally posted by Blair Wind
He can FEED off kinetic energy. He can block all energy
Are you seriously going to say that Sue can hit him with a blast and have it actually hurt him? I'm wondering how there can be a collision with no kinetic energy. Or a grab, grip, pull, tug.

Originally posted by Creshosk
If the forcefeild move, or colides it will produce kinetic energy.

Since kinetic energy is movement, and fire is still moving molecules heat is movement (which is why friction produces heat)

A pull or a tuf will require kinetic energy (movement energy)

I'm wondering how there can be a collision with no kinetic energy. Or a grab, grip, pull, tug.

Sue's bubbles form where she wants them to.

They dont move to the location

Originally posted by Grimm22
Sue's bubbles form where she wants them to.

They dont move to the location if they move they produce kinetic energy, if they colide with something they produce kinetic energy, pressure is also kinetic energy.

He has a cannonball that covers his whole body and becomes indestructable........show me a scan of ANYONE manipulating CBs insides while in the cannonball form and Ill consent

Originally posted by Grimm22
Sue's bubbles form where she wants them to.

They dont move to the location Good luck trying to form something inside a Cannonball going at full blast, while surrounded by a living sandstorm and being struck by lightning.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
He has a cannonball that covers his whole body and becomes indestructable........show me a scan of ANYONE manipulating CBs insides while in the cannonball form and Ill consent I won't. if it starts to push on him then the energy being used to create the pressure will be absorbed and the pressure will stop.

So even if his insides can be manipulated, there will still be the kinetic energy to absorb.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Good luck trying to form something inside a Cannonball going at full blast, while surrounded by a living sandstorm and being struck by lightning.

First, Storm is dead before she can do anything.

Second, Johnny kills Dust.

That and im sure that Reed could take down Cannonball

Originally posted by Grimm22
First, Storm is dead before she can do anything.

Second, Johnny kills Dust.

That and im sure that Reed could take down Cannonball How to any of this?

Originally posted by Creshosk
How to any of this?

1. Sue kills storm in a second.

2. Sue puts Johnny and Dust in a bubble and Johnny goes Nova. Dust is glass

3. Sue puts a Reed and Cannonball in a bubbe, Reed then traps CB, until he runs out of oxygen

Originally posted by Creshosk
How to any of this?
Because they're the Fantastic Four.

wackest scenarios ever

Originally posted by Grimm22
1. Sue kills storm in a second.

2. Sue puts Johnny and Dust in a bubble and Johnny goes Nova. Dust is glass

3. Sue puts a Reed and Cannonball in a bubbe, Reed then traps CB, until he runs out of oxygen
4. The X-Men stand around doing nothing while this happens.

Actually that should be number one.

Originally posted by Grimm22
1. Sue kills storm in a second.

2. Sue puts Johnny and Dust in a bubble and Johnny goes Nova. Dust is glass

3. Sue puts a Reed and Cannonball in a bubbe, Reed then traps CB, until he runs out of oxygen Psylocke took Sue out...

Why is Psylocke suddenly removed?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Psylocke took Sue out...

Why is Psylocke suddenly removed?

Because the conclusion was made that she could win this on her own.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Because the conclusion was made that she could win this on her own. Then it'd be up to the original poster to change the settings of the fight.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Then it'd be up to the original poster to change the settings of the fight.

Either way, im just saying that without Psylocke, the FF should take this

Originally posted by Grimm22
Either way, im just saying that without Psylocke, the FF should take this Except for number three... I'm not sure how reed would trap cannon ball... Cause canonball would absorb the kinetic energy being produced from the pressure of holding him in a direction. Then he'd be able to bust out of the bubble (absorbign the kinetic energy of the impact and powering him up...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Except for number three... I'm not sure how reed would trap cannon ball... Cause canonball would absorb the kinetic energy being produced from the pressure of holding him in a direction. Then he'd be able to bust out of the bubble (absorbign the kinetic energy of the impact and powering him up...

How exactly is he going to bust out from Reed

He's indestructible

Originally posted by Grimm22
How exactly is he going to bust out from Reed

He's indestructible He'd take Reed with him... or stretch him far enough that it causes enough of a strain that he passes out.
though I'm curious as to how reed would hold onto him inside the bubble...

Hows anyone gonna hurt Cannonball. Hes indestructible with a kinetic energy feeding shield that he can hold others in

HE could solo them

Originally posted by Creshosk
He'd take Reed with him... or stretch him far enough that it causes enough of a strain that he passes out.
though I'm curious as to how reed would hold onto him inside the bubble...

Reed would simply form himself to the shape of the bubble and keep that shape. He would then continue to increase his density making it harder for Cannonball to strech him. Eventually, CB would get tired.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Hows anyone gonna hurt Cannonball. Hes indestructible with a kinetic energy feeding shield that he can hold others in

HE could solo them

As cool as cannonball is, the thought of him beating the FF single handidly is ubsurd.

Then again so is Psylocke

Originally posted by Grimm22
Reed would simply form himself to the shape of the bubble and keep that shape. He would then continue to increase his density making it harder for Cannonball to strech him. Eventually, CB would get tired. More resistence, more kinetic energy more powerful canonball...

Oh yeah that was a good idea...

Originally posted by Grimm22
As cool as cannonball is, the thought of him beating the FF single handidly is ubsurd.

Then again so is Psylocke Absurd or not... Guess what?

Truth is stranger than fiction... even the truth about fiction.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Absurd or not... Guess what?

Truth is stranger than fiction... even the truth about fiction.

Either way, the FF with prep win 10/10

If he can take on Gladiator, take on his "planet busting full confidence punches" and take it just fine, NONE of these guys are gonna give him trouble but IW and his kinetic energy steal gives him the easy win.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
If he can take on Gladiator, take on his "planet busting full confidence punches" and take it just fine, NONE of these guys are gonna give him trouble but IW and his kinetic energy steal gives him the easy win.
It was city busting.

And cut it out with that damn smiley.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
If he can take on Gladiator, take on his "planet busting full confidence punches" and take it just fine, NONE of these guys are gonna give him trouble but IW and his kinetic energy steal gives him the easy win.

Please, Gladiator has been jobbed so many times.

I mean especially the fighting wolverine for six days thing

Originally posted by Grimm22
Either way, the FF with prep win 10/10 I find it amusing that when a person cannot fight within the confines of the rules of the thread and KMC vs forums they have to go and add or change something else in order to win.

Kinda shows they didn't have a chance in the first place don't it?

Originally posted by Validus
It was city busting.

And cut it out with that damn smiley.



which one? There are soo many

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That one.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I find it amusing that when a person cannot fight within the confines of the rules of the thread and KMC vs forums they have to go and add or change something else in order to win.

Kinda shows they didn't have a chance in the first place don't it?

Hence the shifty

Either way its still true

Originally posted by Validus
That one. Had you taken the time to go through this thread and quote him each time he did that and compiled that into the post you would have won, but copying and pasting the same quote means you fail...


Of course that means nothing either.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Hence the shifty

Either way its still true Depends on the amount of prep given.

If its one minute of prep probably not.

If its half an hour (15 minutes would probably squeak them by) or more then yeah.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Had you taken the time to go through this thread and quote him each time he did that and compiled that into the post you would have won, but copying and pasting the same quote means you fail...


Of course that means nothing either.
Too lazy for that however, I'll keep that in mind for the next thread he does that in (which should be the next one he posts in).

Originally posted by Creshosk
Depends on the amount of prep given.

If its one minute of prep probably not.

If its half an hour (15 minutes would probably squeak them by) or more then yeah.

One minute of prep reed just goes and gets some do hickey he used to beat some cosmic being or whatnot

Originally posted by Grimm22
One minute of prep reed just goes and gets some do hickey he used to beat some cosmic being or whatnot he'd probably only have enough time to grab something at random... which means he has a 50% chance with 1 minute.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Hence the shifty

Either way its still true That's because prep is a giant gaping deus ex machina plot device.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's because prep is a giant gaping deus ex machina plot device. So does that mean that the fantastic four aren't as good as people think they are because they have to rely on a crutch of the plot device?

Originally posted by Creshosk
So does that mean that the fantastic four aren't as good as people think they are because they have to rely on a crutch of the plot device? Hey you said it not me.

Originally posted by Validus
Too lazy for that however, I'll keep that in mind for the next thread he does that in (which should be the next one he posts in).


really now

Originally posted by Creshosk
So does that mean that the fantastic four aren't as good as people think they are because they have to rely on a crutch of the plot device?

No

But, point taken

well there's no prep in this match...

Originally posted by stormfront13
1)storm also had ben on his knees screaming in pain as well.

2)cannonball has a force-field that would protect him, and his force-field negates kinetic energy...heat and fire are a form of kinetic energy

3)johnny won't have time to attack dust when he's being occupied by psylock and cannonball

1. Did Ben have Sue to shield him? Like they always do? Besides, guess who's claustrophobic? And guess who can close in around her?

2. Err. No. They are forms of ENERGY. KINETIC energy is a form of energy.

3. So we're pretending Ben, Reed, and Sue aren't gonna do anything. Ok.


But dude if Wolverine had Beyonders powers, he could totally take Sentry and Gladiator all alone!

I still cant get over the ubsurd remark that Storm had Ben screaming in pain

Doom couldnt get Ben to scream in pain while he was torturing him, what makes anyone think that Storm could

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
1. Did Ben have Sue to shield him? Like they always do? Besides, guess who's claustrophobic? And guess who can close in around her?

sue's going to be too busy with her attackers. besides..when can ben fly? he won't be able to enclose around her



ugh...what are you trying to prove with this?



ben, red, and sue are all busy as well

Originally posted by Grimm22
I still cant get over the ubsurd remark that Storm had Ben screaming in pain

Doom couldnt get Ben to scream in pain while he was torturing him, what makes anyone think that Storm could

well it did happen wether you agree with it or not

Originally posted by stormfront13
well it did happen wether you agree with it or not

A lot of things "happened"

It dosent make them right or even close.

Pure PIS, and out of character for Ben

Whoever wrote it needs to get pucnhed in the head

I'd like to see Ben smuthering Storm and inducing her claustrophobia while she is flying and bombarding him with full powered lightning bolts.

Even better it would be great if he made her claustrophobia come out, then he would just unleash that evil Storm(scans when I find them)

wont let me edit so heres the scan http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5945/uncannyxmen147ox7.jpg
thats after she was trapped in a box

Originally posted by Grimm22
A lot of things "happened"

It dosent make them right or even close.

Pure PIS, and out of character for Ben

Whoever wrote it needs to get pucnhed in the head

if it happened in a canon book...then it's canon. no PIS in the match... considering when torturing someone you don't want to scream because it givers your assualter pleasure of hearing your scream. for instance...wildchild didn't scream when he had his skin stripped off his body...but he has screamed from certain attacks.

Another scan of that part. Storm Almost killing Doom http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8990/roguestormmo7.jpg

Originally posted by stormfront13
if it happened in a canon book...then it's canon. no PIS in the match... considering when torturing someone you don't want to scream because it givers your assualter pleasure of hearing your scream. for instance...wildchild didn't scream when he had his skin stripped off his body...but he has screamed from certain attacks.

Yeah just like Wolverine surving a napalm bomb is canon

Its still complete crap.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
Another scan of that part. Storm Almost killing Doom http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8990/roguestormmo7.jpg

I have to say that is crap beyond crap.

Storm's lightning would never even come close to penetrating Doom's sheilds or his armor for that matter.

That and a blast from Doom should KO Wolverine if not kill him

The Storm nearly killing Doom thing was written by Chris Claremont. If depended on him, she would kick the ass out of Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer and Black Bolt... together!

You hate Storm too much do you? Hahaha, your Storm vs. Firestorm thread was so obviously a spite thread. Hey grow a brain and learn some stealth okay? You're just showing how you hate a fictional character so much. You are so damn pathetic.



Ummmm...WAIT! Oxygen! Yeah that's it.

And don't ever give me that NOVA thing. It's too pathetic. First of all, it takes sh*ts of time to form one hot nova, by that time, he's been separated to pieces by Betsy or I don't know, being extinguished by Storm. Your choice. And yes, he is NOT immune to lightning. Electricity will just disrupt his motor functions. Blah blah blah, he falls.

FF is so overrated in these boards.



This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read since winds are not made up of air. In atomic scale, kinetic energy is heat energy. Human Torch generates heat energy. Cannonball absorbs kinetic energy. Cannonball > Human Torch



Well good luck with that. It's no use arguing with you. You seem to believe the FF are like gods which they're not. Storm is not dumb and you make it look like Sue can just trap her easily when she can command intense covers to hide her with barely a thought. There is no way Storm is killed first, she is not weak. Wake up.



And guess who goes wild and unstoppable when her claustrophobia is unleashed? She can just destroy everything around her. And in the scan provided, Doom could not even take her. In that scan alone, she showed characteristics of an omega (not saying she is, but she did transform millions more threatening than the regular Storm we know).



Umm....yeah so any hard proof about Storm should be voided out because of the writer? The fact that it happened still happened. What kind of proof do you need if a published one is provided? Your imagination and opinion?

And you have to remember that Storm is very powerful. The only thing that is holding her back is her compassion and her sense of being grounded well since she was young. That scan showed a Storm with no care and full realization of her true powers, she looked like an unleashing Phoenix in that scan. Magneto realized her potential and wanted to train her than how Xavier trains her, which is all about heroism more than destruction.

Originally posted by Grimm22
I have to say that is crap beyond crap.

Storm's lightning would never even come close to penetrating Doom's sheilds or his armor for that matter.

That and a blast from Doom should KO Wolverine if not kill him
I dont care if you think its crap. You can't deny what has happend just because you dont want it to be true