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the fights in Gotham at night.

no prep.


Batman has the Nomex survival suit off Batman Begins, and some of his more advanced equipment along with his standard arsenal: batarangs(normal, exploding & electric auto-tracking), grapple gun, mini mines, nerve/tear gas, liquid-nitrogen capsules, flashbangs, infared/night vision, single marble, medikit, and cell phone.

The Punisher has: class 4 kevlar vest w/ ceramic plate, Colt .45 w/ laser sight, M16/M203 assault rifle/grenade launcher, 5 frag grenades, and dual MAC-10 UZI's.

who wins???

Second team wins...if Batman doesnt have any prep.

wolverine/cap

Cap and Wolverine own most of those weapons dont even barly effect wolverine with his healing, and cap is train with millitary to take some gas, lol ,

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
wolverine/cap

team two

In Gotham ?

Batman wins.

Team 2 FTW 10/10

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
In Gotham ?

Batman wins. Lulz

Team 2. Punisher is the weak link.

Team 2 for the win

Team 2 pretty badly. Batman can stalemate Capt until he runs out of juice but Wolverine destroys The Punisher.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Team 2. Punisher is the weak link.

Correct.

Er you know what yeah Punisher actually didnt do to badly in a brief fight with Wolverine and his leg was injured at the time as well. Im not talking about Einnis either, now that bullets are dropping him Punisher could actually beat him.

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007126yn.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007134jd.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal00714159jt.jpg

He was also fast enough to get Winter Soldier dead to rights. Im assuming WS thinks Frank can pull the trigger before he can break his neck.

http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=99673_buckyvcastle4_122_986lo.jpg

Originally posted by iceman24567
Lulz

Something funny ?

Batman can actually beat Captain America with his gadgets but Wolverine is too much. Logan will kill Frank before Bruce takes out Steve.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Logan will kill Frank before Bruce takes out Steve.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Er you know what yeah Punisher actually didnt do to badly in a brief fight with Wolverine and his leg was injured at the time as well. Im not talking about Einnis either, now that bullets are dropping him Punisher could actually beat him.

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007126yn.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007134jd.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal00714159jt.jpg

He was also fast enough to get Winter Soldier dead to rights. Im assuming WS thinks Frank can pull the trigger before he can break his neck.

http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=99673_buckyvcastle4_122_986lo.jpg

Originally posted by Alfheim
Er you know what yeah Punisher actually didnt do to badly in a brief fight with Wolverine and his leg was injured at the time as well. Im not talking about Einnis either, now that bullets are dropping him Punisher could actually beat him.

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007126yn.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007134jd.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal00714159jt.jpg

He was also fast enough to get Winter Soldier dead to rights. Im assuming WS thinks Frank can pull the trigger before he can break his neck.

http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=99673_buckyvcastle4_122_986lo.jpg

That's early Jim Lee isn't it?

Originally posted by endrict
That's early Jim Lee isn't it?

Not sure but its not Einnis. The scan at the bottom is from last year I think. Obvoulsy Wolverine can beat Frank, but I dont think its as easy as some people are making out, especially with his reduced HF, Frank has a decent chance of winning.

Frank Castle with his resourcefulness and cunning always has a chance against Wolverine depending on the enviorment surroundings. However Wolverine's healing factor allows him to eat almost anything Frank can dish out.

Btw Haven't seen any recent Wolverine comics son I don't know how powerful he is anymore.

Oh and logically Batman should take out Cap easily.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Frank Castle with his resourcefulness and cunning always has a chance against Wolverine depending on the enviorment surroundings. However Wolverine's healing factor allows him to eat almost anything Frank can dish out.


There you go.

http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan07oh9.jpg

as you can see from the scans Frank is fast enough to get him.

That wasn't Frank that was Warpath and he shot him with a sniper rifle from quite a distance.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
That wasn't Frank that was Warpath and he shot him with a sniper rifle from quite a distance.


....anyway my point is that bullets can drop him.

Meh that wasn't Warpath that shot him.

Looked like him to me.

Looks like Scalphunter with his cyborg arm.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Looked like him to me.

Originally posted by Alfheim
....anyway my point is that bullets can drop him.

Originally posted by endrict
Looks like Scalphunter. Indeed it was both are Nakey Americans so the confusion is understandable. Scalphunter > Frank Castle when it comes to sniping and general marksmanship.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Indeed it was both are Nakey Americans so the confusion is understandable. Scalphunter > Frank Castle when it comes to sniping and general marksmanship.

Ok are you sure about that? At any rate theres this as well.

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007126yn.jpg

Originally posted by Alfheim
Okay I see so we just have to figure out how far the distance is when the teams start fighting then I suppose.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Okay I see so we just have to figure out how far the distance is when the teams start fighting then I suppose.

Well Frank dindt have any problems hitting him with his fists at close range why would we assume that Frank cant shoot him, remember Frank was already injured before he got into the fight with Wolverine.

If Frank is fast enough to beat WS to the draw.

http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=99673_buckyvcastle4_122_986lo.jpg

We cant assume that Wolverine can.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok are you sure about that? At any rate theres this as well.

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007126yn.jpg
Yes pretty sure since Scalphunter is a Mutant with enhanced senses

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes pretty sure since Scalphunter is a Mutant with enhanced senses

Ok sorry but thats your proof? You know that doesnt always mean anything? Hell DD has better senses than Cap but Cap is arguably a better fighter.

Thor is 1000s of years old but hes not better at MA than Cap. logically he should be but thats not always the case.

Wolverine is faster and more experienced than Bucky Wolverine beats Frank 8/10 even with the weapons Frank has.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Wolverine is faster and more experienced than Bucky Wolverine beats Frank 8/10 even with the weapons Frank has.

Can you prove that? Experience doesnt always mean anything. Hell Wolverine has been chucked out in the snow by Molly Hayes.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok sorry but thats your proof? You know that doesnt always mean anything? Hell DD has better senses than Cap but Cap is arguably a better fighter. Whats your proof? Somebody shot Wolverine while he was in the middle of a fight so Frank Castle can do the same? Hell i could shoot Wolverine while he is busy hold off a few Marauders.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well Frank dindt have any problems hitting him with his fists at close range why would we assume that Frank cant shoot him, remember Frank was already injured before he got into the fight with Wolverine.

If Frank is fast enough to beat WS to the draw.

http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=99673_buckyvcastle4_122_986lo.jpg

We cant assume that Wolverine can. That my friend is a link to a magazine cover for me.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Can you prove that? Experience doesnt always mean anything. Hell Wolverine has been chucked out in the snow by Molly Hayes. Can you prove Wolverine is going down at all in this fight considering they start off with equal footing Frank isn't behind him taking his time to snipe his leg and Wolverine isn't fight a couple Marauders.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Whats your proof? Somebody shot Wolverine while he was in the middle of a fight so Frank Castle can do the same? Hell i could shoot Wolverine while he is busy hold off a few Marauders.

What do you mean whats your proof. I already showed you scans of Frank shooting Wolverine while running.


You said Wolverine was faster than Bucky, now you cant porve anything you wanna turn it back to me.



Originally posted by Darth Martin
That my friend is a link to a magazine cover for me.


http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=99673_buckyvcastle4_122_986lo.jpg

Try it again.

But those aren't normal bullets that blew out Logans brains like that.

Scalphunter is a master at weaponry and can easily create a gun to blow Logans Fu@king brains out a lot better than Frank can.

That didn't work either. Same thing.

Originally posted by Alfheim
What do you mean whats your proof. I already showed you scans of Frank shooting Wolverine while running.


You said Wolverine was faster than Bucky, now you cant porve anything you wanna turn it back to me.






http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=99673_buckyvcastle4_122_986lo.jpg

Try it again. So you think a normal human with a cybernetic arm is faster than Wolverine? Wolverine has superhuman speed and i am done with this because you obviously just want to argue with no kind of comic book character knowledge.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
That didn't work either. Same thing.

Well anyway the scans show WS breaking Franks arm.
WS throws Frank, Frank almost lands on his feet but WS pushes Frank to the ground. It ends up with WS hand to Franks throat and, Frank with his gun to WS throat. WS decides to back down after Frank bascally tells him to "look into his eyes and see if hes is messing"

Originally posted by iceman24567
So you think a normal human with a cybernetic arm is faster than Wolverine? Wolverine has superhuman speed and i am done with this because you obviously just want to argue with no kind of comic book character knowledge.

*sigh* WS is a normal human? Er there are scans of Wolverine vs WS in the Wolverine forum they dont work but there are alot of them, it seems that he might have done quite well.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well anyway the scans show WS breaking Franks arm.
WS throws Frank, Frank almost lands on his feet but WS pushes Frank to the ground. It ends up with WS hand to Franks throat and, Frank with his gun to WS throat. WS decides to back down after Frank bascally tells him to "look into his eyes and see if hes is messing"



*sigh* WS is a norml human? Yes he isn't even peak human the arm gives him the edge but he is still a normal human by all means. Do you really think he is even close to Wolverine level physically?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes he isn't even peak human the arm gives him the edge but he is still a normal human by all means. Do you really think he is even close to Wolverine level physically?


Look your just telling me that Wolverine is faster but your not providing any evidence. These classifications of peak and enhanced dont always mean anything.

I mean hell Frank in those scans was punching Wolverine up and he was already injured in the leg. WS is most likely better trained than Frank. Even if he isnt as fast as Wolverine his arm makes up for the difference.

Batman takes the majority against Cap 8/10.

Wolverine takes the majority against Punisher ?/?.

Cased closed. Period.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Batman takes the majority against Cap 8/10.

Wolverine takes the majority against Punisher ?/?.

Cased closed. Period.

I dunno about 8/10

Uh it's clear that Bruce martial arts skill>Steve Roger's and add the enhanced durability given from the Nomex Survival Batsuit and the Utility Belt and yes it's about that.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Look your just telling me that Wolverine is faster but your not providing any evidence. These classifications of peak and enhanced dont always mean anything.

I mean hell Frank in those scans was punching Wolverine up and he was already injured in the leg. WS is most likely better trained than Frank. Even if he isnt as fast as Wolverine his arm makes up for the difference. You are such a hypocrite. You say Winter Soldier is most likely better trained than Frank where is your evidence? I assumed i didn't need to show you basic knowledge about characters but i guess i do huh? No his Cybernetic arm doesn't make up for the rest of his body being below Wolverines physically. These classifications do mean something don't be ignorant. Peak humans are stronger, faster and physically better than normal humans like Winter Soldier. Bucky stated himself Captain America was 3 times stronger and faster than him i guess the classification means something. Physically Wolverine > Bucky in everyway that is fact not even opinion.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Uh it's clear that Bruce martial arts skill>Steve Roger's

Really? Ive seen scans of Bruce saying that Steve was almost his superior nbot sure if Ican find them though.

Originally posted by Darth Martin

and add the enhanced durability given from the Nomex Survival Batsuit and the Utility Belt and yes it's about that.

Cap has KOed Namor. Namor > Nomex suit. yes the utility belt will help.

Originally posted by iceman24567
You are such a hypocrite.


Get a grip.

Originally posted by iceman24567

You say Winter Soldier is most likely better trained than Frank where is your evidence?

Because he was trained by Captain America....and thats why I said most likely ie good possibility but may not be true. WS also posibly has even more experience than Frank. This does not defintely make him better but I think that probably will make him superior.

Hell even if you look at that fight WS was doing better than Frank.

Originally posted by iceman24567


I assumed i didn't need to show you basic knowledge about characters but i guess i do huh? No his Cybernetic arm doesn't make up for the rest of his body being below Wolverines physically. These classifications do mean something don't be ignorant. Peak humans are stronger, faster and physically better than normal humans like Winter Soldier. Bucky stated himself Captain America was 3 times stronger and faster than him i guess the classification means something. Physically Wolverine > Bucky in everyway that is fact not even opinion.

Well alot of people on this forum think that Cap ais faster than Wolverine so that dont mean a dman thing. He also did not state how much faster. Anyway it doesnt even matter because on street level people who arent even described as peak have been shown to keep up with enhanced people....like I said an injured Punisher was punching up Wolverine....accorinding to your logic he would have got stomped.

Anyway here are the scans of Wolverine vs WS...they dont work but there are alot of them

http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky1.jpg
http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky2.jpg
http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky3.jpg
http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky4.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky5.jpg
http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky6.jpg
http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky7.jpg
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky8.jpg
http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky9.jpg
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.ph...oganbucky10.jpg
http://img42.imagevenue.com/img.php...oganbucky11.jpg
http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.ph...oganbucky12.jpg
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php...oganbucky13.jpg


Well i'll pm the guy to see if he has them.....but those are alot of scans.....

"Really? Ive seen scans of Bruce saying that Steve was almost his superior nbot sure if Ican find them though."

Umm I think Bruce was reffering to in a H2H fight(no help, prep, gadgets, shield) "it is concievable" that Cap would beat him. That's due to the SSS not martial arts skill. Plus Crossovers aren't a reliable canon source.

"Cap has KOed Namor. Namor > Nomex suit. yes the utility belt will help."

And Batman's "batkick" made the Spectre bleed. Batman has on numerous times taken shots from Superman and Wonder Woman and also a energy beam from Hal Jordan.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
"Really? Ive seen scans of Bruce saying that Steve was almost his superior nbot sure if Ican find them though."

Umm I think Bruce was reffering to in a H2H fight(no help, prep, gadgets, shield) "it is concievable" that Cap would beat him. That's due to the SSS not martial arts skill. Plus Crossovers aren't a reliable canon source.


Well what did you say?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Uh it's clear that Bruce martial arts skill>Steve Roger's

You were refering to H2H. Well ok apparently in the canon source the writers stated that Cap was supposed to be superior to Bruce.

"Cap has KOed Namor. Namor > Nomex suit. yes the utility belt will help."

Originally posted by Darth Martin

And Batman's "batkick" made the Spectre bleed. Batman has on numerous times taken shots from Superman and Wonder Woman and also a energy beam from Hal Jordan.

Bro....Spectre let Batman kick him and im pretty sure it didnt make him bleed.

Batmasn doesnt take any of that without any prep and hes not prepping for superman and WW here.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Get a grip.



Because he was trained by Captain America....



Well alot of people on this forum think that Cap ais faster than Wolverine so that dont mean a dman thing. He also did not state how much faster. Anyway it doesnt even matter because on street level people who arent even described as peak have been shown to keep up with enhanced people....like I said an injured Punisher was punching up Wolverine....accorinding to your logic he would have got stomped.

Anyway here are the scans of Wolverine vs WS...they dont work but there are alot of them

http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky1.jpg
http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky2.jpg
http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky3.jpg
http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky4.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky5.jpg
http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky6.jpg
http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky7.jpg
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky8.jpg
http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky9.jpg
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.ph...oganbucky10.jpg
http://img42.imagevenue.com/img.php...oganbucky11.jpg
http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.ph...oganbucky12.jpg
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php...oganbucky13.jpg


Well i'll pm the guy to see if he has them.....but those are alot of scans..... Nah you need to get a grip on facts because you obviously are avoiding them for some reason. The point i was making was that Wolverine is faster, stronger and smarter than Bucky and the instances where Wolverine was shot are in no way the same as them fighting on neutral ground Castle goes down 8/10 to Wolverine and so does Bucky.

Originally posted by Alfheim
You were refering to H2H. Well ok apparently in the canon source the writers stated that Cap was supposed to be superior to Bruce.

"Cap has KOed Namor. Namor > Nomex suit. yes the utility belt will help."



Bro....Spectre let Batman kick him and im pretty sure it didnt make him bleed.

Batmasn doesnt take any of that without any prep and hes not prepping for superman and WW here. While I agree that all of thos Batman feats I just listed are PIS/CIS(meybe with the exception of the blast from Hal) so is Cap knocking out Namor. unless he did it with the Shield I don't buy it.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah you need to get a grip on facts because you obviously are avoiding them for some reason.

Yeah of course


Originally posted by iceman24567

The point i was making was that Wolverine is faster, stronger and smarter than Bucky


Well if can get those scans then wwe will see for sure. At any rate you cant pove that Wolverine is smarter than WS because Wolverine can act like a dumbass. He probably is stronger but it wont make that much difference. Faster well lets put it this way, lots of people who are not classified as enhanced have given Wolverine problems.

Hell Wolverine was fighting Echo shes not enhanced and he had to get pull out his claws because he was not winning in H2H.

Silver Samurai isnt enhanced hes been beaten by Wolverine but hes good enough to give him trouble.

Shin Kuei isnt enhanced but he can be a major problem to an enhanced DP

Your logic just doesnt add up.

Originally posted by iceman24567

and the instances where Wolverine was shot are in no way the same as them fighting on neutral ground Castle goes down 8/10 to Wolverine and so does Bucky.

Oh I see so them fighting H2H in those scans doesnt ahve anything to do with this thread....idiot.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
While I agree that all of thos Batman feats I just listed are PIS/CIS(meybe with the exception of the blast from Hal)

so is Cap knocking out Namor. unless he did it with the Shield I don't buy it.

Cap has been punching and stunning people with superhuman strength for 100s of years its not PIS. Besides Namor was mindcontrolled thats why he was able to do it, otherwise Namor would have been too fast.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah of course





Well if can get those scans then wwe will see for sure. At any rate you cant pove that Wolverine is smarter than WS because Wolverine can act like a dumbass. He probably is stronger but it wont make that much difference. Faster well lets put it this way, lots of people who are not classified as enhanced have given Wolverine problems.

Hell Wolverine was fighting Echo shes not enhanced and he had to get pull his claws because he was winning H2H.

Silver Samurai isnt enhanced hes been beaten by Wolverine but hes good enough to give him trouble.

Shin Kuei isnt enhanced but he can be a mjor problem to an enhanced DP

Your logic just doesnt add up.



Oh I see so them fighting H2H in those scans doesnt ahve anything to do with this thread....idiot. Nice so we resort to insulting because the logic you claim i don't have doesn't add up? Just because these people have given Wolverine trouble doesn't mean Bucky or Frank can beat Wolverine in battle. What hand 2 hand scans? You obviously are in denial if you think Bucky is faster than Wolverine or even smarter. Wolverine is a mutant those times he acts like a dumbass is because of his animal instincts whats your excuse? I have evidence but it really doesn't matter if i give you scans because you are immune to logic.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Cap has been punching and stunning people with superhuman strength for 100s of years its not PIS. Besides Namor was mindcontrolled thats why he was able to do it, otherwise Namor would have been too fast.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nice so we resort to insulting because the logic you claim i don't have doesn't add up? Just because these people have given Wolverine trouble doesn't mean Bucky or Frank can beat Wolverine in battle. What hand 2 hand scans? You obviously are in denial if you think Bucky is faster than Wolverine or even smarter. Wolverine is a mutant those times he acts like a dumbass is because of his animal instincts whats your excuse? I have evidence but it really doesn't matter if i give you scans because you are immune to logic.

Ok I apologise but your rude. You rude and illogical. You dont actually call me names but basically you talk down to me.

So what your telling me is that, this does not have any bearing on how this fight will go?

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007134jd.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal00714159jt.jpg

You started laughing at me and then start telling me that this has no bearing on how the fight will go....then you wonder why im rude.

Whose the one getting punched up in those scans Frank or Wolverine? No I dont think that Frank is faster than Wolverine but it obvoulsy in this fight doesnt make that much of a difference.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok I apologise but your rude. You rude and illogical.

So what your telling me is that, this does not have any bearing on how this fight will go?

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007134jd.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal00714159jt.jpg

You started laughing at me and then start telling me that this has no bearing on how the fight will go....then you wonder why im rude. Rude to you maybe but i never seen those scans...My logical hasn't been objected by anybody but you YET. My way of thinking iis different than yours but i stand by it. Wolverine takes out Frank.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Rude to you maybe but i never seen those scans...My logical hasn't been objected by anybody but you YET. My way of thinking iis different than yours but i stand by it. Wolverine takes out Frank.

Ah that would explain it....you've seen those scans now.

Originally posted by Alfheim
.

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007126yn.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal007134jd.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=punisherwarjournal00714159jt.jpg



Thats the whole lot.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ah that would explain it....you've seen those scans now.



Thats the whole lot. Ok i still stand by what i said before.

Why are we still arguing this?

We all agree(I think) that Batman take majority against Captain America and that Wolverine takes majority against Punisher.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Ok i still stand by what i said before.

Bear in mind there scans of Wolverine detecting sniper fire and doging the bullets, in this case obvoulsy Frank was too fast....also when Frank fought Wolverine his leg was injured.......


I think Wolverine wins the majority but I dont think its going to be as easy as people think.....Wolverine 7/10

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bear in mind there scans of Wolverine detecting sniper fire and doging the bullets, in this case obvoulsy Frank was too fast....also when Frank fought Wolverine his leg was injured.......


I think Wolverine wins the majority but I dont think its going to be as easy as people think.....Wolverine 7/10 Okay case closed. Everyone agrees!

Originally posted by Alfheim
Get a grip.



Because he was trained by Captain America....and thats why I said most likely ie good possibility but may not be true. WS also posibly has even more experience than Frank. This does not defintely make him better but I think that probably will make him superior.

Hell even if you look at that fight WS was doing better than Frank.



Well alot of people on this forum think that Cap ais faster than Wolverine so that dont mean a dman thing. He also did not state how much faster. Anyway it doesnt even matter because on street level people who arent even described as peak have been shown to keep up with enhanced people....like I said an injured Punisher was punching up Wolverine....accorinding to your logic he would have got stomped.

Anyway here are the scans of Wolverine vs WS...they dont work but there are alot of them

http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky1.jpg
http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky2.jpg
http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky3.jpg
http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky4.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky5.jpg
http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky6.jpg
http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php...loganbucky7.jpg
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky8.jpg
http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.ph...loganbucky9.jpg
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.ph...oganbucky10.jpg
http://img42.imagevenue.com/img.php...oganbucky11.jpg
http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.ph...oganbucky12.jpg
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php...oganbucky13.jpg


Well i'll pm the guy to see if he has them.....but those are alot of scans.....
You realize that before the fight took place, Winter Soldier had a sniper tranquilize Wolverine, so he wouldn't be able to fight at 100%.

its amazing how in one breath Wolverine fanboys say how his hf is so great he can withstand a nuke, but then cry when he loses a fight after he suffers from a gunshot wound. Anyway Bruce beats Cap 6/10 only because he has a slight edge and homefield advantage...otherwise they are pretty much equals....but Logan should be able to beat Castle 8/10 simply because the mutie gods have blessed him with a hf

I'll break down my opinion of a Captain America vs Batman fight.

Steve Rogers edges Bruce Wayne out in every physical statistic imaginable thanks to the SSS, but not by alot. Bruce makes up for this in his knowledge and wide variety of the martial arts at his disposal. In a H2H fight taking Cap's Peak Human stamina and endurance Bruce would eventually tire before Rogers would.

However as Batman Bruce would have a utility belt with numerous explosives, batarangs, and a wide array of gas pellets at his disposal. Steve can pass on the first two(assuming he keeps his shield in front of him) but with the gas, Captain America is vulnerable to gas attacks. This leads to a Batman win.

Steve Rogers vs Bruce Wayne H2H(no gadgets, shield, suits, or weapons). Steve rogers 6/10 due to peak human stamina and endurance.

Captain America vs Batman (Standard Equipment). Batman 8/10 due to utility belt and gadgetry.

LOL!!


there are actually people who think batman/punisher have a chance at winning this fight.





To those people, when I come through your drive thru, please dont **** up my order.

Originally posted by JasonK4
You realize that before the fight took place, Winter Soldier had a sniper tranquilize Wolverine, so he wouldn't be able to fight at 100%.

Nope thats why I pmed somebody for the scans. Anyway Punisher is supposed to be third tier he was injured at the time and had no problem thumping Wolverine in the head.

Hell WS could probably give Wolverine a good fight without the tranquilizer but he probably did it to ensure a victory.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
him) but with the gas, Captain America is vulnerable to gas attacks. This leads to a Batman win.

That aint gonna work its in an open space. Hell Cap was able to fight a Class 10 Paladin while holding his breath because of gas in an enclosed space. He lost eventually but gas aint gonna cut it.

I don't see Batman taking out Captain America in a standard fight without some sort of specific prep for the majority. Although fairly closely trained...Cap is a better physical combatant, not to mention he is physically stronger, tougher, and actually faster than Batman.

And anyone that thinks Punisher takes out Wolverine for the majority needs a shrink.

Originally posted by horrorwolf


And anyone that thinks Punisher takes out Wolverine for the majority needs a shrink.

Its good that nobody does then.

Batman w/ utility belt>Captain America w/ shield.