Aegis vs Superman Red Son

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UniOmni
Can the Superman with uber powers, defeat the Aegis, Lady of Sorrows?

Validus
All Out Superman takes this 9/10

UniOmni
I don't wanna believe you.

Validus
Why not? All Out Superman has infinite strength, speed, and durability. Not that pansy Hulk style infinite but truly infinite. Remember that his dials go up to 11. It's over in one punch.

Grimm22
Erg, I truely dislike Superman Red Son.

As good of a story as it was, Supes as a commie makes me sad sad

kgkg
Originally posted by UniOmni
Can the Superman with uber powers, defeat the Aegis, Lady of Sorrows? Aegis the one that suppose to = Galactus in power? wink

thedude1948
Aegis From Annihilation? She takes any version of Superman 10/10

Sixth_Winged
Superman get's man-raped

K3VIL
Are you drunk?Or on drugs?
Aegis is a being on Galactus level.

Juntai
Originally posted by Validus
All Out Superman takes this 9/10 In a comic he would.

But on the forum Superman is barely over street level or something. Seeing as how people don't put him up at herald level, despite his showings.

sexyking
Originally posted by Juntai
In a comic he would.

But on the forum Superman is barely over street level or something. Seeing as how people don't put him up at herald level, despite his showings.

yes Although its the opposite for Thor.

K3VIL
Originally posted by Juntai
In a comic he would.

But on the forum Superman is barely over street level or something. Seeing as how people don't put him up at herald level, despite his showings.
You are stating that Superman can beat beings on Galactus level?
ROTFL

Sixth_Winged
I don't know why you guys are getting too sensitive about a logical loss for supes. Heck, even shiny space beach bum who could **** superman so bad, he'd beg for kryponite got his silver plated ass shattered in Annihilation 1 after getting the beatdown.

Inhuman
Originally posted by Juntai
In a comic he would.

But on the forum Superman is barely over street level or something. Seeing as how people don't put him up at herald level, despite his showings.

Aegis takes this easy.
Plus supes is lower to mid level herald in my opinion. PLus to be Herald level you have to do ALOT more than just punch. wink

Validus
Originally posted by Inhuman
Aegis takes this easy.
Plus supes is lower to mid level herald in my opinion. PLus to be Herald level you have to do ALOT more than just punch. wink
So Silver Age Mangog isn't herald level? That's why that logic doesn't work.

UniOmni
Originally posted by Juntai
In a comic he would.

But on the forum Superman is barely over street level or something. Seeing as how people don't put him up at herald level, despite his showings.

Superman isn't herald level.

He's top tier in power.

As is Thor, Surfer and many others.


And Vally, Mangog is above the top tier. By a fair bit.

And Jun, how do you propose it would go in a comic??
Think T-vo would come into play somewhere?








O/T- I was in the bookstore today, and saw Superman: For Tomorrow. Both volumes.
I skimmed the first one, and wasn't really impressed.

Does the second improve, or should i just bypass them altogether?

And i got Supermanmessedecret Identity coming, and thinking about Superman: For all Seasons.

Is FAS any good??

Validus
Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman isn't herald level.

He's top tier in power.

As is Thor, Surfer and many others.


And Vally, Mangog is above the top tier. By a fair bit.
Apparently not since his main power is hitting stuff really hard.

UniOmni
Originally posted by Validus
Apparently not since his main power is hitting stuff really hard.

Then Doomsday isn't top tier. Nor Validus.

They're top tier in the respect that they have immense durability and physical power.

Herald isn't a level. Its a title. Thats all.

Validus
Originally posted by UniOmni
Then Doomsday isn't top tier. Nor Validus.

They're top tier in the respect that they have immense durability and physical power.

Herald isn't a level. Its a title. Thats all.
Thanks Captain Obvious.

bigbran
Either way, that conversation is irrelevent. Aegis wins.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman isn't herald level.

He's top tier in power.

As is Thor, Surfer and many others.


And Vally, Mangog is above the top tier. By a fair bit.

And Jun, how do you propose it would go in a comic??
Think T-vo would come into play somewhere?














O/T- I was in the bookstore today, and saw Superman: For Tomorrow. Both volumes.
I skimmed the first one, and wasn't really impressed.

Does the second improve, or should i just bypass them altogether?

And i got Supermanmessedecret Identity coming, and thinking about Superman: For all Seasons.

Is FAS any good??
Actually Superman is Top Tier Heral LvL. The Heralds all manifest thier power cosmic in differnt ways. Superman is able to channel and absorb vast amount of Star energy. Which is pretty much cosmic energy. Herald lvl beings would include
Thor
Sersi
Quasar
Green Lanterns
Wonder WOman
Captain Marvel
Gladiator
an Alph mutant Such as Magneto
Flash
Sentinal
Any Boomtubed New God ( as they decreese to match the universe they boom tube to)

Rols
I though Supes only absorbs Solar Energy, but im kinda missing a few old issues.. Anyhow we havent really seen what Aegis can do cept She curbstomp upgrade SS. I doubt Supes could take her...

bigbran
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually Superman is Top Tier Heral LvL. The Heralds all manifest thier power cosmic in differnt ways. Superman is able to channel and absorb vast amount of Star energy. Which is pretty much cosmic energy. Herald lvl beings would include
Thor
Sersi
Quasar
Green Lanterns
Wonder WOman
Captain Marvel
Gladiator
an Alph mutant Such as Magneto
Flash
Sentinal
Any Boomtubed New God ( as they decreese to match the universe they boom tube to) Wonder woman, Cap Marvel, magneto, and Gladiator? Are you kidding me? Especially Magneto!!
Even Thor is a very big stretch. The only thing that would put Thor on that level, is his hammer. I wouldn't count him as a herald level.
It's debatable. To me, he's not a herald level.

K3VIL
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually Superman is Top Tier Heral LvL. The Heralds all manifest thier power cosmic in differnt ways. Superman is able to channel and absorb vast amount of Star energy. Which is pretty much cosmic energy. Herald lvl beings would include
Thor
Sersi
Quasar
Green Lanterns
Wonder WOman
Captain Marvel
Gladiator
an Alph mutant Such as Magneto
Flash
Sentinal
Any Boomtubed New God ( as they decreese to match the universe they boom tube to)
What?What?Superman channel star energy?Maybe you mean stellar, and anyway, where are proofs of it?
Aegis of the Sorrows punked the newly improved Silver Surfer, like he was nothing.She and Tenebrous will wipe Supes out of existance on a whim.You cannot be serious.
Originally posted by bigbran
Even Thor is a very big stretch. The only thing that would put Thor on that level, is his hammer. I wouldn't count him as a herald level.
It's debatable. To me, he's not a herald level.
Thor's superhuman physical powers, the mastery over Weather Elements, the Lightning, and the Energy and Matter Manipulation abilities of the hammer put him on herald level.He has beaten heralds before, it means he is in their league.

Tassadar
Originally posted by Juntai
In a comic he would.

But on the forum Superman is barely over street level or something. Seeing as how people don't put him up at herald level, despite his showings.

What the f**k? Who says Supes isnt herald level?

UniOmni
Originally posted by Tassadar
What the f**k? Who says Supes isnt herald level?

Me, since herald level doesn't exist...............And Vally, i know you understand this!
You don't become a captain being stupid.

invisiblewoman
I am not very familiar with aegis, lady of sarrows can someone fill me in please confused

thedude1948
There was a war a long time ago in the Marvel Universe and the only 3 survivors were Aegis, Tenebrous, and Galactus. And Galactus locked Aegis and Tenebrous away in the Kyln prison. After the Annihilation wave destroyed the prison Aegis and Tenebrous were released. They are both supposed to be around Galactus's Power Level, and so far Aegis has smashed Silver Surfer and KOed Galactus (by a cheap shot but still impressive.)

Pic of Aegis and Tenebrous
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1515/aegistenebrousfz1.jpg

invisiblewoman
Originally posted by thedude1948
There was a war a long time ago in the Marvel Universe and the only 3 survivors were Aegis, Tenebrous, and Galactus. And Galactus locked Aegis and Tenebrous away in the Kyln prison. After the Annihilation wave destroyed the prison Aegis and Tenebrous were released. They are both supposed to be around Galactus's Power Level, and so far Aegis has smashed Silver Surfer and KOed Galactus (by a cheap shot but still impressive.)

Pic of Aegis and Tenebrous
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1515/aegistenebrousfz1.jpg THANKS, THAT IS INTERESTING

Mr Master
Originally posted by invisiblewoman
I am not very familiar with aegis, lady of sarrows can someone fill me in please confused

Aegis
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3717/goons3hs5.th.jpg


Tenebrous
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9387/goons4la6.th.jpg


BOTH Equal Galactus in Power.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4168/2goonsym8.th.jpg


Aegis squashing the Silver Surfer
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5049/squashgo9.th.jpg


Aegis frying Galactus's brain
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4691/squash2ld6.th.jpg


Galactus Falls
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4905/squash3jj7.th.jpg

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
Aegis
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3717/goons3hs5.th.jpg


Tenebrous
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9387/goons4la6.th.jpg


BOTH Equal Galactus in Power.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4168/2goonsym8.th.jpg


Aegis squashing the Silver Surfer
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5049/squashgo9.th.jpg


Aegis frying Galactus's brain
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4691/squash2ld6.th.jpg


Galactus Falls
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4905/squash3jj7.th.jpg those are impressive scans!

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
those are impressive scans!

No doubt.

There's a tab next to the quote tab, edit.

press the edit tab, and erase the scans on your post so they don't have to repeat themselves.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
No doubt.

There's a tab next to the quote tab, edit.

press the edit tab, and erase the scans on your post so they don't have to repeat themselves. cool cool, those scans pretty much sum up the fact that aegis would crush red son supes

invisiblewoman
Those are nice scans, I don't think you can argue with that.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman isn't herald level.

He's top tier in power.

As is Thor, Surfer and many others.


And Vally, Mangog is above the top tier. By a fair bit.

And Jun, how do you propose it would go in a comic??
Think T-vo would come into play somewhere?








O/T- I was in the bookstore today, and saw Superman: For Tomorrow. Both volumes.
I skimmed the first one, and wasn't really impressed.

Does the second improve, or should i just bypass them altogether?

And i got Supermanmessedecret Identity coming, and thinking about Superman: For all Seasons.

Is FAS any good??

Red Son had never shown T-vo so I doubt it could come into play here.

I'm not even sure where I'd place Red Son power wise...this is a guy who laughed off the GL Corps and kicked some serious ass.

Aegis though is on a whole different scale of power, what made you start this thread? Is there something that Red Son did that made you think he could possibly compete?

For the record: I did exactly the same thing with the "For Tomorrow" arcs.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Mr Master
Aegis
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3717/goons3hs5.th.jpg


Tenebrous
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9387/goons4la6.th.jpg


BOTH Equal Galactus in Power.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4168/2goonsym8.th.jpg


Aegis squashing the Silver Surfer
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5049/squashgo9.th.jpg


Aegis frying Galactus's brain
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4691/squash2ld6.th.jpg


Galactus Falls
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4905/squash3jj7.th.jpg

This is what annoys me about SS and Galactus.

Surfer gets upgraded and destroys a planet easily by himself in battle, yet a battle between 3 Galactus level beings doesnt?

Marvel writers should get their heads checked and put a VERY clear and distinctive line between these 2.

Thank god the art for these issues has been beautiful.

bigbran
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
This is what annoys me about SS and Galactus.

Surfer gets upgraded and destroys a planet easily by himself in battle, yet a battle between 3 Galactus level beings doesnt?

Marvel writers should get their heads checked and put a VERY clear and distinctive line between these 2.

Thank god the art for these issues has been beautiful. Because, what would destroying the planet accomplish?(unless they have some relation to omega!!!)
Surfer was way out of his power, to beat her. He was just lucky he lasted so long.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by bigbran
Because, what would destroying the planet accomplish?(unless they have some relation to omega!!!)
Surfer was way out of his power, to beat her. He was just lucky he lasted so long.

What did it really accomplish for SS?

And if SS did it without that much problem, these guys should be doing this easily by accident.

Think about it, these guys minimum output should far exceed Surfers maximum output.

bigbran
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What did it really accomplish for SS?

And if SS did it without that much problem, these guys should be doing this easily by accident.

Think about it, these guys minimum output should far exceed Surfers maximum output. That could also go for Tyrant and Galactus though.
They destroyed galaxies without trying.
I guess if they missed, they would obliterate the planet. But they do have control, And Surfer sent out his power all around him to destroy the planet.
They were just doing simple blasts.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman isn't herald level.

He's top tier in power.

As is Thor, Surfer and many others.


And Vally, Mangog is above the top tier. By a fair bit.

And Jun, how do you propose it would go in a comic??
Think T-vo would come into play somewhere?








O/T- I was in the bookstore today, and saw Superman: For Tomorrow. Both volumes.
I skimmed the first one, and wasn't really impressed.

Does the second improve, or should i just bypass them altogether?

And i got Supermanmessedecret Identity coming, and thinking about Superman: For all Seasons.

Is FAS any good?? For tomorrow had some great art in book too but the premise was stupid. Superman basically creates a paradise in the phantom zone. Their he battles Zod. Its worth it for the art but not the story.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Big Sexy
For tomorrow had some great art in book too but the premise was stupid. Superman basically creates a paradise in the phantom zone. Their he battles Zod. Its worth it for the art but not the story.

Don't forget that he wills himself to forget about this paradise.

UniOmni
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
This is what annoys me about SS and Galactus.

Surfer gets upgraded and destroys a planet easily by himself in battle, yet a battle between 3 Galactus level beings doesnt?

Marvel writers should get their heads checked and put a VERY clear and distinctive line between these 2.

Thank god the art for these issues has been beautiful.

Thats the exact same thing i thought when i saw the fight.

Galactus really needs more out there showings. He's an out there kinda character.

A fight between three Galactus level being should at least destroy a few galaxies. At the very minimum, a solar system or two.

superkronick92
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Red Son had never shown T-vo so I doubt it could come into play here.

I'm not even sure where I'd place Red Son power wise...this is a guy who laughed off the GL Corps and kicked some serious ass.

Aegis though is on a whole different scale of power, what made you start this thread? Is there something that Red Son did that made you think he could possibly compete?

For the record: I did exactly the same thing with the "For Tomorrow" arcs.

dude i know, red son supes was literally infinitley strong, fast.(as long as kryptonire ar red sun energy isnt involved)

Mider999
ok i dont get it did they all team up with annihlus did they give him a army where did he get the army is he there boss are they his boss is he super strong as in upgraded what the hell is going on.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Mider999
ok i dont get it did they all team up with annihlus did they give him a army where did he get the army is he there boss are they his boss is he super strong as in upgraded what the hell is going on.

Nah.

Aegis and Tenebrous could care less about Annihilis and his crusade, they just wanted revenge and then some out of Galactus.

Mr Master
Originally posted by UniOmni
A fight between three Galactus level being should at least destroy a few galaxies. At the very minimum, a solar system or two.

The fight went pretty quick though.

Here it is in it's entirety.


Aegis
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3717/goons3hs5.th.jpg

Aegis squashing the Silver Surfer
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5049/squashgo9.th.jpg

Both Aegis and Tenebrous equal Galactus in Power
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4168/2goonsym8.th.jpg


Tenebrous & Galactus battled alone for most of the fight.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/152/gfight1or9.th.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/769/gfight2hu1.th.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/825/gfight3wu7.th.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6982/gfight4lz0.th.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7581/gfight6lz1.th.jpg

Mr Master
Continues...


Aegis snuck up from behind Big G
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3487/gfight5rt7.th.jpg

Aegis then fried his brain
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4691/squash2ld6.th.jpg

Galactus Falls
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4905/squash3jj7.th.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8901/gfight7sz9.th.jpg

K3VIL
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Red Son had never shown T-vo so I doubt it could come into play here.

I'm not even sure where I'd place Red Son power wise...this is a guy who laughed off the GL Corps and kicked some serious ass.

Aegis though is on a whole different scale of power, what made you start this thread? Is there something that Red Son did that made you think he could possibly compete?

For the record: I did exactly the same thing with the "For Tomorrow" arcs.
Red Son defeated US Army soldiers who received their rings and weren't even trained.You wanna call that bunch of rookies a GL Corp?
About the Surfer and his power, if he fire an energy blast of planetary annihilation he can focus it, it will not necessary destroy anything around SS.About the art I agree, great book.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by K3VIL
Red Son defeated US Army soldiers who received their rings and weren't even trained.You wanna call that bunch of rookies a GL Corp?
About the Surfer and his power, if he fire an energy blast of planetary annihilation he can focus it, it will not necessary destroy anything around SS.About the art I agree, great book.

The construct was well thought, bad ass, and still willed by an army of men. It's still quite a feat even if due to just sheer numbers.

I wasn't just talking about SS, I'm talking in comparison with Galactus...it seems like the feats for those 2 are backwards.

guy222
Aegis

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