Bloodstorm vs. Phoenix

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ddsmrt
these two women battle it out who would win Bloodstorm whose powers are control over the weather patterns, generate lighting bolts from her hands, turn to mist, summon and transform into rats, bats, wolves, and other "creatures of the night", drain blood through her fangs, healing, and hypnosis. Or Phoenix whose powers are Vast telepathic and telekinetic powers, bearer of the Phoenix Force, Phoenix is considered to be one of the Earth's most powerful telepathic minds, rivalling Professor X and the ability of resurrection.


Jean

ddsmrt
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ddsmrt
Bloodstorm

David_Richards
who cares

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by David_Richards
who cares
Worst ownage ever... Ignorance at it finest.
No offence, but can you back it up with a bio on bloodstorm?

ddsmrt
If you want a bio go to any marvel sites or wikipedia and type in bloodstorm she appeared in mutant x #1 fear him fear for him

rotiart
Phoenix every day of the month. She creates a mini sun that kills the vampire.

ddsmrt
Vampire storm isn't affected by the sun like normal vamp because of her powers plus the fact that she has a healing factor like wolverine.

ddsmrt
Bloodstorm is better than regular storm Bloodstorm even defeated Apocalypse

Creshosk
So she goes from being debated in her place in the heirarchy of cosmic beings . . . to fighting a vampire. . .

She goes from beating a hungry level galactus . . . to fighting a vampire . . .


And this isn't a cosmic powered vampire, no. . . this is a vampire who is immune to the effects of the sun...

ddsmrt
Hold on now phoneix was captured by Apocalypse who is definetly not a cosmic being to become apart of the twelve and Bloodstorm defeated the likes of Gambit, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Poison Ivy, Apocalypse, Juggernaut and Baron Zemo during the secret wars which had the top 57 warriors fighting to save the universe. And on top of that for you being so stupid I put this thread up here on purpose just to see that people underestimate anything with the world strom in it. For you information Creshosk Bloodstorm won the Secret wars and one of the 57 was phoenix whose ass she kicked.

Thanos_THOTU
Not even Onslaught is shit to Phoenix.

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Hold on now phoneix was captured by Apocalypse who is definetly not a cosmic being to become apart of the twelve and Bloodstorm defeated the likes of Gambit, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Poison Ivy, Apocalypse, Juggernaut and Baron Zemo during the secret wars which had the top 57 warriors fighting to save the universe. And on top of that for you being so stupid I put this thread up here on purpose just to see that people underestimate anything with the world strom in it. For you information Creshosk Bloodstorm won the Secret wars and one of the 57 was phoenix whose ass she kicked. Ah you're a fanboy/girl of the character.

Hell you even youse pis to back up your arguments. Cool.

Changes nothing though. Phoenix still wins.

ddsmrt
Oh yes he is he is one a the few who can stand up to the phoenix he has reality manuiplation like phoenix telepathy that is completely superior to the phoenix and has tk far byond phoenix's grasp plus super intellgeince magnetokinesis, self-evovlution and metamorphing you do the math.

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Creshosk
Ah you're a fanboy/girl of the character.

Hell you even youse pis to back up your arguments. Cool.

Changes nothing though. Phoenix still wins.
... He/She/It (-never mind) is only asking for your opinion.
You don't have to rubb it into His/Hers/it's face.

Listen Phoenix have done some amazing feats, she would squat beings like Celestial's and other mutants (doenst matter which, because she is the most powerful) like flies.

Creshosk
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
... He/She/It (-never mind) is only asking for your opinion.
You don't have to rubb it into His/Hers/it's face. I gave it, they attacked me for it, then I rubbed it in.

"And on top of that for you being so stupid" is a real open-minded way to discuss something.

ddsmrt
Phoenix is not as power as you all try to make her seem she is still limited by weak humans like jean grey who storm dominates. Bloodstorm powers are very incredible with control of weather, vampire strength, speed, agilty, hyponsis, and healing plus magic she is a kick ass female who I say can only be stop by beings such as Onslaught. Who powers are trually limitess

ddsmrt
Phoenix couldn;t take on the celestials they part of the reason it was created they would easily elimate her not even galactus in his most powerful state could take them on what makes u think phoenix can?

ddsmrt
I change my profile to show that i'm a girl happy so don't call me he she it anymore okay

Thanos_THOTU
Eternity begged for her help n'uff said.

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Phoenix is not as power as you all try to make her seem she is still limited by weak humans like jean grey who storm dominates. Phoenix who you already defined as Jean, is beaten by Jean...

Who storm dominates? :rollseyes:

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Bloodstorm powers are very incredible with control of weather, vampire strength, speed, agilty, hyponsis, and healing plus magic she is a kick ass female who I say can only be stop by beings such as Onslaught.Fangirl...

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Who powers are trually limitess That would explain why he has to be brought back after being killed...

Originally posted by ddsmrt
Phoenix couldn;t take on the celestials they part of the reason it was created they would easily elimate her not even galactus in his most powerful state could take them on what makes u think phoenix can? We've never seen him in his most powerful. And the scan of Phoenix driving away the celestials is pretty hard to ignore.

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Creshosk
I gave it, they attacked me for it, then I rubbed it in.

"And on top of that for you being so stupid" is a real open-minded way to discuss something.
Oh sorry, I was ignorant... confused

Creshosk
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Oh sorry, I was ignorant... confused No worries.

ddsmrt
She may have "drove" them away but she is no match for them

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
She may have "drove" them away but she is no match for them And how would Bloodstorm even come close to driving a celestial away?

ddsmrt
By beating the hell out of phoenix

ddsmrt
And reminding them of hte secret wars were all the great went down

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
By beating the hell out of phoenix
... Now how the hell is that gonna happend?

ddsmrt
The same way it did in the secret ways weather vamp abilties and magic

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
By beating the hell out of phoenix Which isn't going to happen.

Originally posted by ddsmrt
And reminding them of hte secret wars were all the great went down They wouldn't care about that plot driven pile.

Spiderman made a fool of the x-men, storm shot one lightning bolt at him and then stopped trying to catch him.

No personal gusts of wind like she uses, no just zap, that's it.

Rouge was webbed to a steel girder that she couldn't break it nor the webbing...

After being webbed Nightcrawler struggled to get the webbing off, rather than teleporting.

No, I'm sorry that doesn't qualify as evidence.

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
The same way it did in the secret ways weather vamp abilties and magic Sorry, PIS isn't ba viable option on these forums.

Thanos_THOTU
Galactus bow infront of Dark Phoenix at her weakest.
Eternity begged Dark Phoenix for help.
Dark Phoenix held the universe in her right hand.
Dark Phoenix saved the Multi-verse.

ddsmrt
Okay maybe you all should do a bit research on bloodstorm

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Okay maybe you all should do a bit research on bloodstorm Maybe you should do some research on Phoenix.

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Okay maybe you all should do a bit research on bloodstorm
Maybe, or maybe you should do a little research yourself, on Dark Phoenix.

ddsmrt
yes correct dark phoneix not phoenix. Dark phoenix din't give a crap about anything and had true power because of that opoion phoenix on ther other hand isn't as powerful as it's emotional counterpart

Thanos_THOTU
So your not talking about Grey?

ddsmrt
Phoenix has three purposes die, rise, die

ddsmrt
No not grey

ddsmrt
talking about phoenix period with or without host

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Phoenix has three purposes die, rise, die So willfully ignorant...

Thanos_THOTU
Bloodstorm have a couple of purposes as well. - At elast here.
Be killed - Be revived (just for the entertainment killing her off again) - Be killed - ect.

ddsmrt
phoenix is weaker than dark phoenix just like storm is weaker than her emotional state

ddsmrt
Well phoenix would die first so Bloodstorm wins

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
talking about phoenix period with or without host Oh you're talking about the phoenix force ... the thing that recreates the universe each time it's destroyed...

Or the white crown phoenix, holding the 616 universe in her hannds?


Gee let me think here... that would be...

Phoenix 10/10

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Well phoenix would die first so Bloodstorm wins Yeah you're a fangirl.

Love for a character has blinded you to commen sense logic, and what the other character has done.

ddsmrt
She can hold all she want but she can't control all of it she only can control so much because of jean powers it recieved jean's tk was aplified so phoenix could control matter and life forms

ddsmrt
but with out jean it can only view life and create life

ddsmrt
Inless of course it possess rachel or psylocke

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
She can hold all she want but she can't control all of it she only can control so much because of jean powers it recieved jean's tk was aplified so phoenix could control matter and life forms Like bloodstorm's matter and the lifeform known as bloodstorm.

You said any phoenix with or without a host, and I chose the white crown phoenix.

She fixed the universe... I pretty such wiping out Bloodstorm would be easy enough to do.

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah you're a fangirl.

Love for a character has blinded you to commen sense logic, and what the other character has done.
Traitor, in truth it was I who was betrayed. Still I am hunted, still I am hated! Now my blind eye see what others cannot . - Illidan WCIII TFT

So it is true after all... Hmm?

ddsmrt
WOW Phoenix of the White Crown okay well then i say she would have to try to stop bloodstorm from very existing because Bloodstorm is immune to defeat since she defeated apocolayspe so she can exist no matter how many times you kill she just like apocalspe plus she was able to put life forms in suspended animation

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
WOW Phoenix of the White Crown okay well then i say she would have to try to stop bloodstorm from very existing because Bloodstorm is immune to defeat since she defeated apocolayspe so she can exist no matter how many times you kill she just like apocalspe plus she was able to put life forms in suspended animation Yup, you're a fangirl.

ddsmrt
true dat just like ur a fan boy

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
WOW Phoenix of the White Crown okay well then i say she would have to try to stop bloodstorm from very existing because Bloodstorm is immune to defeat since she defeated apocolayspe so she can exist no matter how many times you kill she just like apocalspe plus she was able to put life forms in suspended animation
White Phoenix would easiley change that reality-law.

ddsmrt
Or Bloodstorm could just use her magic on phoenix to do many things like contain it like the shi' ar did and apocaolspe during the tweleve saga and like apocalspe during A.O.A.

Thanos_THOTU
No offence but, I hardly think that a vampire can accomplish what so many powerful beings havent.
However I'll do a research on Bloodstorm.

ddsmrt
Yeah her magic is beyond that of doom and weather powers are nearly comparable to thor with his hammer.

Soleran
She has been taken down by mutants before......................Bloodstorm is owning this fight.

Blind Phoenix Fanlads.......................not even boys, I called you lads!

ddsmrt
You should also research How the Shi' ar and apocalspe contain phoenix and the orgin of the phoenix

ddsmrt
Thank you sole ran someone gets it

Soleran
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Thank you sole ran someone gets it


Oh I do, I do! shifty

Get "it" I mean whatever "it" is huh

Thanos_THOTU
For what I've seen this is basicly Ororo Munroe (Storm) bitten by Dracula, and later gained some greater power. - However I do not belive she could have given Phoenix a run for her money.

ddsmrt
It is that Bloodstorm owns this fight and that phoenix can be taken down by mutants

ddsmrt
If normal storm could fight off phoenix to an extent imagine her power aplified like jean was with phoenix storm basically owns phoenix ass like i own urs

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Soleran
She has been taken down by mutants before......................Bloodstorm is owning this fight.

Blind Phoenix Fanlads.......................not even boys, I called you lads!
Yeah seriously affected by PIS, so would you say that Wolverine could beat everyone in the unvierse, in one what-if he did.

Thanos_THOTU
Phoenix will blink her out of existance, it's simply a overkill.

David_Richards
I don't know much about Phoenix. But it seems to me that someone who is the spark of creation or whatever they said in the other thread can kill a vamp easy.

ddsmrt
Everybody has a chance exspecially someone who can heal and regenerate at an own extent but he really doesn't stand a chance

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Everybody has a chance exspecially someone who can heal and regenerate at an own extent but he really doesn't stand a chance
Phoenix can remove Bloodstorms power and make her human with ease.

Creshosk
Originally posted by Soleran
She has been taken down by mutants before......................Bloodstorm is owning this fight.

Blind Phoenix Fanlads.......................not even boys, I called you lads! Ah, so PIS applies here?

No I'm sorry, phoenix like any other character is uneffected by PIS.

ddsmrt
Yes phoenix is powerful but it is far from being the ultimate power and until then can be defeated

Thanos_THOTU
She don't have to be the ultimate power to defeat a lesser being.

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Yes phoenix is powerful but it is far from being the ultimate power and until then can be defeated I never said that it was the ultimate power.

I said it could beat Bloodstorm.

ddsmrt
Just like everyone else only a trually powerful reality warper cna change mutants into humans and rewrite Dna but phoenix could probably erase her from existence if she wasn't put in suspended animation first.

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Just like everyone else only a trually powerful reality warper cna change mutants into humans and rewrite Dna but phoenix could probably erase her from existence if she wasn't put in suspended animation first. Which is not a concern for this thread as the rules of the forums say.

Soleran
Originally posted by Creshosk
Ah, so PIS applies here?

No I'm sorry, phoenix like any other character is uneffected by PIS.


You don't get "it," that's ok though. Bloodstorm ravages Jean, that's not PIS, that's just how it is.

ddsmrt
Obivously phoenix can be defeated by lesser beings that is why Bloodstorm defeated her once before and will this time. Phoenix was also easily captured by apocolaspe in A.O.A. and the twelve if bloodstorm killed him something that not even phoenix could do then what makes u think phoenix would win

Creshosk
Originally posted by Soleran
You don't get "it," that's ok though. Bloodstorm ravages Jean, that's not PIS, that's just how it is. You're trying to be funny arn't you?

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Obivously phoenix can be defeated by lesser beings that is why Bloodstorm defeated her once before and will this time. Phoenix was also easily captured by apocolaspe in A.O.A. and the twelve if bloodstorm killed him something that not even phoenix could do then what makes u think phoenix would win PIS is not admissible.

this is 616 not AOA.

You have to break the rules of the forum to win? Proves you lost before you began.

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Obivously phoenix can be defeated by lesser beings that is why Bloodstorm defeated her once before and will this time. Phoenix was also easily captured by apocolaspe in A.O.A. and the twelve if bloodstorm killed him something that not even phoenix could do then what makes u think phoenix would win
If Phoenix isnt held back by love and such she would obliterate her and shatter the ashes of Bloodstorm throughout the wind

ddsmrt
i'm just giving an example fanboy that phoenix is vulnerable

Soleran
Originally posted by Creshosk
You're trying to be funny arn't you?


No I just don't think you understand "it." Please show us the rules stating a crazy bloodthirsty magic white haired scantily clad storm vampire couldn't defeat Phoenix. I need to see it spelled out in answer form specific to my questions verbage!

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
i'm just giving an example fanboy that phoenix is vulnerable
Well not to Bloodstorm she aint.

ddsmrt
Same for Bloodstorm to phoenix can u say spell to shtter her ass across the galaxy

ddsmrt
yes she is even cyke could do damage

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Soleran
No I just don't think you understand "it." Please show us the rules stating a crazy bloodthirsty magic white haired scantily clad storm vampire couldn't defeat Phoenix. I need to see it spelled out in answer form specific to my questions verbage!
Phoenix have taken on far greater beings than vampires successfuly.
Even the planet Bloodstorm walks on wouldnt be hard for Phoenix to erease.

Creshosk
Originally posted by Soleran
No I just don't think you understand "it." Please show us the rules stating a crazy bloodthirsty magic white haired scantily clad storm vampire couldn't defeat Phoenix. I need to see it spelled out in answer form specific to my questions verbage! Yeah you're definitly joking now...

Not very funy...

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
yes she is even cyke could do damage
Just in your head. wink

Soleran
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah you're definitly joking now...

Not very funy...


HAHA no post the rules now, do it...........................do it! laughing

ddsmrt
Phoenix has limits like nearly everyone else even Bloodstorm but Bloodstorm has enough power to take the phoenix by STORM

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Just in your head. wink
And maybe in comics, if due to PIS.

ddsmrt
Bloodstorm can survive even if phoenix blow up the planet just say the match is a draw and i'll say Bloodstorm wins and we'll call it a night

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Bloodstorm can survive even if phoenix blow up the planet just say the match is a draw and i'll say Bloodstorm wins and we'll call it a night
It's true... People only see what they want to see.

Soleran
Well Jean with Phoenix has died several times now so it's a pretty consistent showing it's not PIS, Bloodstorm just smites her with lightening and sucks the blood/phoenix force out of her!




I only see vowelssad

Creshosk
Originally posted by Soleran
HAHA no post the rules now, do it...........................do it! laughing How about posting proof of these abilities?

Yeah the mutant X timeline.. .I can't find proof of any of these claims of Bloodstorms abilities beyond the vampire thing and being storm.

ddsmrt
Yes that why ur still arguing phoenix has been beat by Bloodstorm already read people read Bloodstorm won the freaking secret wars and saved the universe and Phoenix didn't

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Yes that why ur still arguing phoenix has been beat by Bloodstorm already read people read Bloodstorm won the freaking secret wars and saved the universe and Phoenix didn't prove it post scans or retract your stements. smile

Thanos_THOTU
Even if she would die (which she wouldent) she would be able to revive herself, death does not necesserly mean loss.

ddsmrt
Get the comic or something and stopp making a fool of yourself good night fanboy's

Soleran
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Even if she would die (which she wouldent) she would be able to revive herself, death does not necesserly mean loss.


KO can be a win.


Show me scans of Phoenix beating Bloodstorm Creshosksmile

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Get the comic or something and stopp making a fool of yourself good night fanboy's
... To be truthful and don't try to live with a lie, is hard.
Admit that Phoenix is superior in every way/aspect is easy.

And the only fanboy (-in this case girl) here is you, the other guy just agree with you because you are a female, probobly because he have problem with chicks in the real world, face the truth.

Creshosk
Originally posted by ddsmrt
Get the comic or something and stopp making a fool of yourself good night fanboy's No evidence? Then I'm sorry but your claim is invalid.

Not up to me to do your work for you. The burden of proof is on the shoulders making the claim.

Originally posted by Soleran
KO can be a win.


Show me scans of Phoenix beating Bloodstorm Creshosksmile Sorry, burden of proof is on your shoulders to back some of your claims about the character.

Show me evidence of Bloodstorm doing the things claimed.

Soleran
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And the only fanboy (-in this case girl) here is you, the other guy just agree with you because you are a female, probobly because he have problem with chicks in the real world, face the truth.


I hope you aren't expecting payment for that psychobabble you just presented. laughing

Soleran
Originally posted by Creshosk
Sorry, burden of proof is on your shoulders to back some of your claims about the character.

Show me evidence of Bloodstorm doing the things claimed.


What that Storm could control the weather and fly and drink blood as a vampire, uh yeah I'll get right on that. laughing

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Soleran
I hope you aren't expecting payment for that psychobabble you just presented. laughing
Nah, when I don't have to lie, I useally do it for free...

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Soleran
What that Storm could control the weather and fly and drink blood as a vampire, uh yeah I'll get right on that. laughing
Storm is shit to Phoenix, so is Bloodstorm.

Soleran
It would just appear to me that some folks take this just a touch to seriously, not a sermon just a thought.

Creshosk
Originally posted by Soleran
What that Storm could control the weather and fly and drink blood as a vampire, uh yeah I'll get right on that. laughing About beating apocalypse and all that? roll eyes (sarcastic)

Cause I'm affraid that manipulating the weather and the other vampire powers won't cut it.

Unless you think that bloodstorm can also beat a hungry galactus? Or drive away a celestial?

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Soleran
It would just appear to me that some folks take this just a touch to seriously, not a sermon just a thought.
What can I say: Cool happens...

And If you go back to the begining of this thread and start reading, you will realize who is the serious one.

Soleran
Originally posted by Creshosk
Unless you think that bloodstorm can also beat a hungry galactus? Or drive away a celestial?


Depends on how my day at work went, maybe!

Creshosk
Originally posted by Soleran
Depends on how my day at work went, maybe! roll eyes (sarcastic)

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Soleran
Depends on how my day at work went, maybe!
If so... Today must've been the worst day in your life, truley a living hell.

Soleran
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
What can I say: Cool happens...

And If you go back to the begining of this thread and start reading, you will realize who is the serious one.




Everytime I read this fight it just makes me laugh.

Thanos_THOTU
Originally posted by Soleran
Everytime I read this fight it just makes me laugh.
#1 Do a couple of more times then, I'm not sure it will heal you wounds though.
#2 Xavier's teliknetic abillity does not rivel Pheonix's in any way.

Creshosk
Originally posted by Soleran
Everytime I read this fight it just makes me laugh. Simple things amuse simple people.

Soleran
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
#1 Do a couple of more times then, I'm not sure it will heal you wounds though.
#2 Xavier's teliknetic abillity does not rivel Pheonix's in any way.


#1 Oh, ok then as soon as I find some wounds I'll grab some antibiotics or soemthing thanks

#2 Xavier doesn't have any TK ability so of course not, then again I never said he had any.




More pearls of wisdom I'll remeber, thanks roll eyes (sarcastic) lol

Creshosk
Originally posted by Soleran
More pearls of wisdom I'll remeber, thanks roll eyes (sarcastic) lol pearls of wisdom? Should I be insulted by the very idea that I would be cpapable of spouting such drivel?

Such is the nature of being random, it might look like it fits with something else if you justify it as such. But spgehti octopus banana phone walla walla sputnik doik p'tang.

Thanos_THOTU
I was refering to mentally but, well ok.


You didn't but she did:






Don't argue with stupid people they will drag you down to their level. - sadly it's too late now.

Soleran
Originally posted by Creshosk
pearls of wisdom? Should I be insulted by the very idea that I would be cpapable of spouting such drivel?

Or the fact you feel the need to justify and make more points even when really there isn't anything to justify here.




Now please carry on and go into the "why's." laughing


Oh and this is just a pointless "rant" thread at this point, it should be closed.

Creshosk
Well I was trying to make jokes. . . but guess you didn't find them funny.

Thanos_THOTU
You have to understand you can't push simple minds that far, it's too much of a struggle.

Phoenix FTW 100,1%

Phoenix_Avatar9
no Phoenix/Jean FTW 100.~1, ddsmrt, have you read any of Endsong or the here comes tomorrow arc?

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