sinister six (animal style) vs morlun
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lando005
Sinister Six line up:
Doc Ock
The Lizard
The Vulture
Scorpion
Rhino
The Tarantula
VS
Morlun animal totem slayer
newavenger13
i sey that who the hell is morlun and that ss is not like that
lando005
morlun is a mysitcal being who hunts and eats people with totemystic animal powers and that's y there is an all animal style sinister six
King_Mungi
Originally posted by newavenger13
i sey that who the hell is morlun and that ss is not like that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlun
Ultraman Baltan
Morlun was only powerful because every punch that hit Spidey was his strength times 100. His powers only work on those with Spiderman's "blessed gift". So Lizard alone takes it, or even Dr. Octopus. Wikipedia's power description is not correct. The powers could only be absorbed by those of the Totem. Normally, his strength(said by JMS) is just like class 10 or around there.
lando005
not entirely sure if that's true or not we havent seen morlun fight anyone else he could have the ablity to drain the life out of any being which would explain why simms said that he sometimes fed on humans to sustain himself
Ultraman Baltan
Originally posted by lando005
not entirely sure if that's true or not we havent seen morlun fight anyone else he could have the ablity to drain the life out of any being which would explain why simms said that he sometimes fed on humans to sustain himself
Trust me, it's true. That's why we never saw anyone else fight him. It's because he's only thinking of surviving. If he can absorb any life force, why would he only go after Spiderman and not the Hulk or Thor? It's because Spiderman's special genes are a match to what Morlun absorbs. He fed on certain humans because either a) they were much more unique than thought or b) Morlun would inject them with it and let grow from there to feed. Both were ways he absorbed humans(Dex was a part of the injection answer).
Scoobless
Nah man, I have to disagree with you here, Morlun is definitely well above class 10.... he's at least class 50 going by his feats
Originally posted by Scoobless
Morlun took a lot more than punches from Spider-Man and he did prove his strength (to a certain extent)
strolls through steel reinforced concrete walls:
1. http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9303/morlun054tm.jpg
2. http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9492/morlun063xx.jpg
taking a lot of impact and getting straight back up:
1. http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/841/morlun017bn.jpg
2. http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/122/morlun026lz.jpg
strolls through another wall (no effort displayed whatsoever):
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/8778/morlun037pz.jpg
taking abuse that can't be explained via power sucking:
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3343/morlun081pk.jpg
Speed:
1. http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8/morlunspeed017qq.jpg
2. http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1811/morlunspeed023hu.jpg
durability:
1. http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7269/morlungas14tv.jpg
2. http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6395/morlungas27pl.jpg
strength:
1. http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5067/morlunweb3pi.jpg
2. http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3351/morlun043co.jpg
I don't think he's class 100.... but he certainly seems to be around 50 minimum
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=388002&highlight=morlun+rogue+forumid%3A77
Metalmanx
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Morlun was only powerful because every punch that hit Spidey was his strength times 100. His powers only work on those with Spiderman's "blessed gift". So Lizard alone takes it, or even Dr. Octopus. Wikipedia's power description is not correct. The powers could only be absorbed by those of the Totem. Normally, his strength(said by JMS) is just like class 10 or around there.
Are you kidding me?
Morlun destroys these guys. Easily.
lando005
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Trust me, it's true. That's why we never saw anyone else fight him. It's because he's only thinking of surviving. If he can absorb any life force, why would he only go after Spiderman and not the Hulk or Thor? It's because Spiderman's special genes are a match to what Morlun absorbs. He fed on certain humans because either a) they were much more unique than thought or b) Morlun would inject them with it and let grow from there to feed. Both were ways he absorbed humans(Dex was a part of the injection answer).
i would say that your partly right if it wasnt for the fact that simms did say that beings like morlun could survive off of ordianry humans for a while and during spider-mans first encouter with morlun he attack a random human on the street and started to absorb her which proves he can absorb anybody it's just not "as filling" as morlun would say
Ultraman Baltan
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Are you kidding me?
Morlun destroys these guys. Easily.
You obviously know little about Morlun.
Ultraman Baltan
Originally posted by Scoobless
Nah man, I have to disagree with you here, Morlun is definitely well above class 10.... he's at least class 50 going by his feats
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=388002&highlight=morlun+rogue+forumid%3A77
Those are all feats that have been done by Dock Ock, Venom, Green Goblin, Rhino, ect. at one point or another. Plus, a bunch of these are after touching(absorbing powers from) Spiderman. So of COURSE his power would increase.
Scoobless
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Those are all feats that have been done by Dock Ock, Venom, Green Goblin, Rhino, ect. at one point or another
Rhino could have easily replicated the strength feats as he's close to class 100 and I clearly stated I estimate Morlun to be around class 50
I don't remember ever seeing GG, Venom or Doc Ock casually swat aside a 2 ton projectile flying at their head... or stroll (not pummel) through a steel reinforced wall.... and GG or even Venom wouldn't get back up from a 30 story Spidey accelerated face-to-the-pavement dive nearly as quickly as Morlun did there
you're overestimating a lot of people's abilities
Ultraman Baltan
Originally posted by Scoobless
Rhino could have easily replicated the strength feats as he's close to class 100 and I clearly stated I estimate Morlun to be around class 50
I don't remember ever seeing GG, Venom or Doc Ock casually swat aside a 2 ton projectile flying at their head... or stroll (not pummel) through a steel reinforced wall.... and GG or even Venom wouldn't get back up from a 30 story Spidey accelerated face-to-the-pavement dive nearly as quickly as Morlun did there
you're overestimating a lot of people's abilities
Considering Venom got back up from practically getting KILLED by Juggernaut and Green Goblin surviving his Whopper Bomb easily, I don't think so.
Metalmanx
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
You obviously know little about Morlun.
Exsqueeze me? I know plenty about Morlun. And he would destory these guys. Rhino would give him the most trouble just because of his durability.
He's far stronger than all of them. Lowest possible is Class 75. But I believe him to be closer to around class 100. Especially considering that Spidey said that Morlun hit harder than Hulk.
He's far faster than all of them.
He's far more durable than all of them.
He can drain their life forces.
What more do you want?
Morlun wins 10/10.
Scoobless
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Considering Venom got back up from practically getting KILLED by Juggernaut and Green Goblin surviving his Whopper Bomb easily, I don't think so.
Then you're wrong
Venom got up ... eventually, he didn't bounce right back... and that "The Madness" story had Venom out of his mind half the time due to toxins or parasites or something that he had picked up somewhere. Venom can take a hell of a lot... but he can still be stunned ... and a lot easier than Morlun by the looks of it
GG's durability has always been fairly consistent and he's never bounced straight back from anything as traumatic as face planting into the road at over 100 mph
Ultraman Baltan
Originally posted by Scoobless
Then you're wrong
Venom got up ... eventually, he didn't bounce right back... and that "The Madness" story had Venom out of his mind half the time due to toxins or parasites or something that he had picked up somewhere. Venom can take a hell of a lot... but he can still be stunned ... and a lot easier than Morlun by the looks of it
GG's durability has always been fairly consistent and he's never bounced straight back from anything as traumatic as face planting into the road at over 100 mph
A Whopper Bomb destroyed a Zilla-sized building, and actually took it without any big scratches. You call THAT consistent? If so, he would kill Morlun. Venom didn't bounce right back up, and neither would Morlun. That beating was more than enough to turn almost any Marvel character into paste.
srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Scoobless
Nah man, I have to disagree with you here, Morlun is definitely well above class 10.... he's at least class 50 going by his feats
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=388002&highlight=morlun+rogue+forumid%3A77
Which of those feats lead you to believe Morlun is class 50 Scoob? There is nothing there that Spider-man himself couldn't do (strength wise that is)... and he isn't class 50.
Scoobless
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Which of those feats lead you to believe Morlun is class 50 Scoob? There is nothing there that Spider-man himself couldn't do (strength wise that is)... and he isn't class 50.
It's not the plain feats themselves.... it's the total ease he has in performing them.... he didn't even have to break his stride to get through that wall...
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/8778/morlun037pz.jpg
Spidey would've at least had to exert himelf and hit it a couple of times.
The other wall was steel reinforced:
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9492/morlun063xx.jpg
He is seen walking casually with bits of it still falling from his shoulders.... no effort whatsoever.
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http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9303/morlun054tm.jpg
Again... no effort to go through the wall.... I have comics where Spidey is desperate to get out of a basic house wall and takes more than a few punches to achieve it
And the Dumpster:
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3351/morlun043co.jpg
those things weigh around 2 tons and he brushed it away like it was a feather blowing past his face
And how many times have you seen people just walk through this much webbing?
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5067/morlunweb3pi.jpg
Even the Hulk (albeit Professor Hulk) took longer to go through that much webbing
everything there shows he's far above Spider-Man in strength and durability
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Also the complete lack of injury from the face plant and gas explosions were very impressive
By the way... what exactly is a "whopper bomb"?
srankmissingnin
All things that someone with Spider-man level strength should be able to do easily but I'll admit that Spider-man himself is never depicted doing similar things with the same amount of ease (even though he should) but that is likely because writers try to play up his speed and agility rather then his strength... and his durability isn't even close to Morluns so he would risk injury.
Anyway on the whole "Spider-man said Morlun hit hard then the Hulk arguement," I'd like to point out that Spider-man also said that Captain America hits with the strength of an Atom Bomb, and that he himself had 40x human reflexes... he is a no good liar.
Scoobless
Originally posted by Scoobless
It's not the plain feats themselves.... it's the total ease he has in performing them.... he didn't even have to break his stride to get through that wall...
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/8778/morlun037pz.jpg
Spidey would've at least had to exert himelf and hit it a couple of times.
The other wall was steel reinforced:
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9492/morlun063xx.jpg
He is seen walking casually with bits of it still falling from his shoulders.... no effort whatsoever.
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http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9303/morlun054tm.jpg
Again... no effort to go through the wall.... I have comics where Spidey is desperate to get out of a basic house wall and takes more than a few punches to achieve it
And the Dumpster:
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3351/morlun043co.jpg
those things weigh around 2 tons and he brushed it away like it was a feather blowing past his face
And how many times have you seen people just walk through this much webbing?
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5067/morlunweb3pi.jpg
Even the Hulk (albeit Professor Hulk) took longer to go through that much webbing
everything there shows he's far above Spider-Man in strength and durability
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All things that someone with Spider-man level strength should be able to do easily
The webs alone can hold people far stronger than Spider-Man... that much webbing could stop the anyone below class 50 easily
Scoobless
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
A Whopper Bomb destroyed a Zilla-sized building...
So.... what is a "whopper bomb"?
lando005
i agree morlun is way stronger than spidy but i think people are underestimating the lower class levels a class 30 could have done the same things as morlun maybe with abit more effort so maybe a class 40 or 50 would be a better fit
Scoobless
....... that's what I've been trying to say.......
Ultraman Baltan
Originally posted by Scoobless
So.... what is a "whopper bomb"?
A Whopper Bomb was a weapon used by the Green Goblin. It was arguably the most powerful Pumpkin Bomb yet, as well as the rarest. As far as I know, it was only used once or twice. It was strong enough to destroy a building completely. I actually am not sure what issue, but I saw it in a couple of scans.
Scoobless
Damn... now I wanna see what it is... any chance of remembering where you saw the scans?
lando005
i think maybe class 35 or 44 for morlun
Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All things that someone with Spider-man level strength should be able to do easily but I'll admit that Spider-man himself is never depicted doing similar things with the same amount of ease (even though he should) but that is likely because writers try to play up his speed and agility rather then his strength... and his durability isn't even close to Morluns so he would risk injury.
Are you kidding ? Spider-Man can not walk through reinforced walls, or through his own web. He is just not strong enough.
End of discussion.
Scoobless
Originally posted by lando005
i think maybe class 35 or 44 for morlun
I guess 34 was too low and 45 was just ridiculous then ....
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