The Flash vs. Reed Richards w/ Ultimate Nullifer & Scarlet Witch (Crazyass HOM)

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Draco69
Takes place in Nevada Desert. No PIS/CIS. Bloodlust on.

They are standing 30 feet apart from each other.

Wonder how this thread turns out....

evil face

bigbran
Originally posted by Draco69
Takes place in Nevada Desert. No PIS/CIS. Bloodlust on.

They are standing 30 feet apart from each other.

Wonder how this thread turns out....

evil face Reed has superhuman clicking abilities.

Priest
Originally posted by Draco69
Takes place in Nevada Desert. No PIS/CIS. Bloodlust on.

They are standing 30 feet apart from each other.

Wonder how this thread turns out....

evil face
reed dirrr

Skeets
Does Reed have prep?

Draco69
Originally posted by bigbran
Reed has superhuman clicking abilities.

Hmmm.

Yes. Galactus and Abraxas failed to stop Richards from clicking a button so Richards obviously possesses the entire Speed Force in his thumb.

This will be a tough one for Flash....

eek!

Grimm22
Technicly, Reed should be able to win with the Ult. Nulifier erm

Unless you have to turn it on with a switch or somthing stick out tongue

Draco69
Originally posted by Skeets
Does Reed have prep?

He doesn't need it. He has the Ultimate Nullifer. Nothing can stand against Reed when has it after all....

Draco69
Originally posted by Grimm22
Technicly, Reed should be able to win with the Ult. Nulifier erm

Unless you have to turn it on with a switch or somthing stick out tongue

It's not a switch. Switches take more time.

It's a button. Flash will have to give it everything he has!!!!

rolling on floor laughing

bigbran
Originally posted by Draco69
Hmmm.

Yes. Galactus and Abraxas failed to stop Richards from clicking a button so Richards obviously possesses the entire Speed Force in his thumb.

This will be a tough one for Flash....

eek! Not the speed force. Like how Superman has superweaving skills, Reed has super clicking skills.

Draco69
Originally posted by bigbran
Not the speed force. Like how Superman has superweaving skills, Reed has super clicking skills.

Was he trained by the Great Homer of Springfield or Pius Peter of Rhode Island??

confused

xmarksthespot
Does current Scarlet Witch even have powers?

Draco69
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Does current Scarlet Witch even have powers?

All fixed.

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by Draco69
All fixed. Can you speedblitz someone to whom reality is lego?

Draco69
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Can you speedblitz someone to whom reality is lego?

An arrow can apparently. Maybe the arrow was dipped in Burger King's special sauce.....

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by Draco69
An arrow can apparently. Maybe the arrow was dipped in Burger King's special sauce..... But when she was struck by the arrow she basically just legoed it. Her body could technically just be a reality lego husk.

I'll just err on the side of caution and say Flash though.

grey fox
Flash, he could grab the ULT Nulllifier , smash it then phase straight through reed.

BOOM.

Stretcho explodes.

And if wanda Lego-fies herself then flash can simplY pick all the pieces up and turn her into a building....or a car..or plane......or maybe even...





http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/comic-con06/85.jpg

BATMAN !

Mr Master
Originally posted by Draco69
An arrow can apparently. Maybe the arrow was dipped in Burger King's special sauce.....

That arrow did NO lasting damage, and Wanda was distracted in her madness conversing with Strange.


Wanda gets shot by Hawk Eye
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3770/w5yp3.th.jpg

Seems like she's dead
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1153/w7sc2.th.jpg

But she's not...arrow in her back deconstructs...everything is as was.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6858/w6dw8.th.jpg

yawn

Hawkeye shot another arrow, almost immediately after the first
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6125/w8gg5.th.jpg

Wanda breaks Hawkeye up into little blocks...forget the arrow.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9418/w9cn5.th.jpg

After Wanda says, "No more Mutants"...she Obliterates everything
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9313/w10sq9.th.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2359/w11xt8.th.jpg
Wanda didn't turn to atoms or molecules or pudding or anything, her FRAIL HUMAN BODY SURVIVED, like nothing ever happened

Flash will NOT be permitted to get close to Wanda.

FLASH...laughing

No need for all the sarcasm duke.

Juntai
Originally posted by Mr Master
That arrow did NO lasting damage, and Wanda was distracted in her madness conversing with Strange.


Wanda gets shot by Hawk Eye
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3770/w5yp3.th.jpg

Seems like she's dead
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1153/w7sc2.th.jpg

But she's not...arrow in her back deconstructs...everything is as was.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6858/w6dw8.th.jpg

yawn

Hawkeye shot another arrow, almost immediately after the first
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6125/w8gg5.th.jpg

Wanda breaks Hawkeye up into little blocks...forget the arrow.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9418/w9cn5.th.jpg

After Wanda says, "No more Mutants"...she Obliterates everything
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9313/w10sq9.th.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2359/w11xt8.th.jpg
Wanda didn't turn to atoms or molecules or pudding or anything, her FRAIL HUMAN BODY SURVIVED, like nothing ever happened

Flash will NOT be permitted to get close to Wanda.

FLASH...laughing

No need for all the sarcasm duke. Flash grabs the nullifier and uses it on Wanda. Why get close?
lol.

ExodusCloak
Flash takes away the UN from Reed and gives Wanda babies...the proper way...Wanda has babies so she's crazy no more...everyone is happy...okay everyone but Wiccan and his twin..

David_Richards
THis is a spite thread. Wandas power work at the speed of thought. She takes this alone.

thedude1948
Originally posted by David_Richards
THis is a spite thread. Wandas power work at the speed of thought. She takes this alone.

Flash is faster than the speed of thought.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by thedude1948
Flash is faster than the speed of thought.
Much Much Much Faster. he could Take the nullifier, kill reed, and knock wanda out in about 100th of a pico second.

galan7777777
id have 2 give this to flash, if they are only 30 feet apart at the start, flash could grab the nullifier from reed and bitchslap wanda before anyone blinked

Metalmanx
Originally posted by David_Richards
THis is a spite thread. Wandas power work at the speed of thought. She takes this alone.

I really hope that was sarcasm.

grey fox
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I really hope that was sarcasm.

You hope in vain Manx....

David_Richards
Originally posted by galan7777777
id have 2 give this to flash, if they are only 30 feet apart at the start, flash could grab the nullifier from reed and bitchslap wanda before anyone blinked

Great so another thread where the rules are stacked in favor of a character you guys like. LOL

Accel
Originally posted by David_Richards
Great so another thread where the rules are stacked in favor of a character you guys like. LOL
It's not stacking odds against a combatant when one is vastly superior to the other.

David_Richards
Your putting flash 30 feet away on purpose, its pathetic.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by David_Richards
Your putting flash 30 feet away on purpose, its pathetic.

This thread is a counter to the idiocy of the reed richard's threads. That is all. you have to look at why the thread creator made the thread. he was trying to prove a point to the fanboys.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by David_Richards
Your putting flash 30 feet away on purpose, its pathetic.

If you knew anything about the Flash, you'd know that he if was placed on the EXACT OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE EARTH, he would still get there in plenty of time (a fraction of a second is all it would take) to take out both Reed and Wanda.

And no. It's not stacked. Some people (morons) believe that Reed is UNSTOPPABLE with the Ultimate Nullifier.

boriquaking55
Alright fanboys, settle down.

No PIS/CIS involved - the conditions favor Flash way too much.

He moves thousands (Edit: millions) of times faster than any human can think. Reed and Wanda would never have a chance. Heres the scenario:

First theres a staredown for a good couple minutes coupled with some thematic "western showdown" music and a couple tumbleweeds passing by. Then theres the required 5-minute monologue by Reed while crazy-ass Wanda sits playing with her imaginary "children." Flash gets tired of the diatrabe and steals the UN from Reed in a couple picoseconds if that - then proceeds to pimp-slap Wanda and Reed, utterly disintigrating them from the force of his faster-than-light pimp hand. Of course, logic dictates that due to Newton's third law - flash too would be utterly annihilated by the force of his own blow. Thus, everyone dies and the Roadrunner & Speedy Gonzales show up and claim victory.

Loony Toons = 1, Marvel & DC Plot Devices = 0

Blair Wind
Speed Force would protect him shifty

stick out tongue

Mr Master
Since when can Flash's speedblits or b*tch slaps equate to destroying more than a Universe?

Scenerio 1. Flash takes away the UN from Reed, clicks it, and rubs himself out.

Scenerio 2. Flash knocks out Reed, runs with the UN millions of miles away, leaves it there and comes back in your, "pico seconds" whatever, now he slaps Wanda up before she can think, AND?...AND?

Wanda was SHOT dead in the Heart by Hawkeye, guess what, she doesn't die.

Wanda gets shot by Hawk Eye
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3770/w5yp3.th.jpg

Seems like she's dead
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1153/w7sc2.th.jpg

But she's not...arrow in her back deconstructs...everything is as was.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6858/w6dw8.th.jpg

Hawkeye shot another arrow, almost immediately after the first
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6125/w8gg5.th.jpg

Wanda breaks Hawkeye up into little blocks...forget the arrow.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9418/w9cn5.th.jpg



Wanda stood at ground zero in an explosion that REMADE the UNIVERSE, it should have atomized her "FRAIL, HUMAN BODY", she survives and brings back everything like it never happened.



After Wanda says, "No more Mutants"...she Obliterates everything
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9313/w10sq9.th.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2359/w11xt8.th.jpg
Wanda didn't turn to atoms or molecules or pudding or anything, her FRAIL HUMAN BODY SURVIVED, like nothing ever happened

Wanda SURVIVES Universal Obliteration and Remakes the Universe one last time
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/9958/w1nt5.th.jpg

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
Since when can Flash's speedblits or b*tch slaps equate to destroying more than a Universe?

Scenerio 1. Flash takes away the UN from Reed, clicks it, and rubs himself out.

Scenerio 2. Flash knocks out Reed, runs with the UN millions of miles away, leaves it there and comes back in your, "pico seconds" whatever, now he slaps Wanda up before she can think, AND?...AND?

Wanda was SHOT dead in the Heart by Hawkeye, guess what, she doesn't die.

Wanda gets shot by Hawk Eye
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3770/w5yp3.th.jpg

Seems like she's dead
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1153/w7sc2.th.jpg

But she's not...arrow in her back deconstructs...everything is as was.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6858/w6dw8.th.jpg

Hawkeye shot another arrow, almost immediately after the first
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6125/w8gg5.th.jpg

Wanda breaks Hawkeye up into little blocks...forget the arrow.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9418/w9cn5.th.jpg



Wanda stood at ground zero in an explosion that REMADE the UNIVERSE, it should have atomized her "FRAIL, HUMAN BODY", she survives and brings back everything like it never happened.



After Wanda says, "No more Mutants"...she Obliterates everything
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9313/w10sq9.th.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2359/w11xt8.th.jpg
Wanda didn't turn to atoms or molecules or pudding or anything, her FRAIL HUMAN BODY SURVIVED, like nothing ever happened

Wanda SURVIVES Universal Obliteration and Remakes the Universe one last time
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/9958/w1nt5.th.jpg eh... just one question about these scans, how can we be sure that wanda destroyed all the universe?

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
eh... just one question about these scans, how can we be sure that wanda destroyed all the universe?

eh...Just the FACT that she was REMAKING the UNIVERSE in this same fashion like...all through out the series.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
eh...Just the FACT that she was REMAKING the UNIVERSE in this same fashion like...all through out the series. she was remaking the universe the entire time? wow, do u have scans of that by any chance?

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
eh... just one question about these scans, how can we be sure that wanda destroyed all the universe?

Actually, here's a clearer indication of it.


Wanda REMADE the 616 Universe more than once.

"Her ability to altar probability got Super charged"
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3817/wanda1km4.th.jpg

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again" (more than once she did it)
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4126/wanad2jy7.th.jpg

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes place"
http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5289/wanda3pi5.th.jpg

"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/355/wanda4iu5.th.jpg

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, here's a clearer indication of it.


Wanda REMADE the 616 Universe more than once.

"Her ability to altar probability got Super charged"
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3817/wanda1km4.th.jpg

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again" (more than once she did it)
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4126/wanad2jy7.th.jpg

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takers place"
http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5289/wanda3pi5.th.jpg

"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/355/wanda4iu5.th.jpg wow, very cool, i read the comics when they first came out, but i guess i overlooked the remaking/destroying of 616 part.... thanx a lot!

boriquaking55
After trudging through those scans I can safely say Marvel should have used my Loony Toons theory - that would have made as much sense as what actually happened in HoM. Sad, really

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
wow, very cool, i read the comics when they first came out, but i guess i overlooked the remaking/destroying of 616 part.... thanx a lot!

Yea g.

These people are seriously Underestimating HOM Wanda.

Flash can't do squat to Wanda.


I'll concede that Reed would lose the UN to Flash.

But Wanda will erase Flash, sooner or later.

Deathstroke
Could Flash dump Wanda in the speed force possibly?

galan7777777
Originally posted by boriquaking55
After trudging through those scans I can safely say Marvel should have used my Loony Toons theory - that would have made as much sense as what actually happened in HoM. Sad, really well the only high point is HoM was the simple phrase "no more mutants" besides that it sucked

Mr Master
Originally posted by boriquaking55
After trudging through those scans

Do you think Flash can beat Wanda?

galan7777777
i think flash could escape wanda by running into another timestream, but thats not beating her lol

juggernaut66666
Flash wins he takes the UN from reed the drinks a coffee than kills scarlet witch

Mr Master
Originally posted by Deathstroke
Could Flash dump Wanda in the speed force possibly?

Flash can't jump into the sppedforce in a second can he, doesn't he have to build up his speed? That was the argument I saw in the Runner vs Flash thread.

Just asking.

If the speed force can't hurt Flash's body, which is Mortal, (depending on what Flash this is), I don't see it hurting Wanda's, who can take a Universe blowing up in her face.

boriquaking55
Originally posted by Mr Master
Do you think Flash can beat Wanda?

Depends on which plot device the writer wants to use. Honestly, both the speedforce and Chaos Magic (or whatever we wanna call it) are too nonsensical and stupid for anyone to get bent out of shape arguing about.

Edit: I've always hated teh "Speedforce" and HoM was horrible...thats just IMHO

Mr Master
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Flash wins he takes the UN from reed the drinks a coffee than kills scarlet witch

I feel you but how?

How does Flash kill Wanda, when she can't be killed?

juggernaut66666
Even if she can't be killed she can be Ko'd Flash took 500.000 people 35 miles away from a nuclear explosion in 0,00001 seconds

Mr Master
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Depends on which plot device the writer wants to use.

I'm reading the rest of what your saying, but on one point, indulge me.

From what you know about Flash, and what you've just seen and know about hom,

Can Flash really be more devastating than a Universe exploding in your face?

Can Flash jump out of a Universe within a second?

Wanda's range of control is atleast a Universe the size of 616, for Wanda to think STOP, would take less than a second, or A second.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Even if she can't be killed she can be Ko'd Flash took 500.000 people 35 miles away from a nuclear explosion in 0,00001 seconds

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm reading the rest of what your saying, but on one point, indulge me.

From what you know about Flash, and what you've just seen and know about hom,

Can Flash really be more devastating than a Universe exploding in your face?

Can Flash jump out of a Universe within a second?

Wanda's range of control is atleast a Universe the size of 616, for Wanda to think STOP, would take less than a second, or A second. here mr. master, this is when wally races the black flash..... if u look at it, they leave this timestream completely
http://img208.echo.cx/my.php?image=flash141p132fo.jpg

Mr Master
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Even if she can't be killed she can be Ko'd Flash took 500.000 people 35 miles away from a nuclear explosion in 0,00001 seconds

And Wanda will materialize half a Universe away when she immediately wakes up, and from that same distance turns Flash into an apple.

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
here mr. master, this is when wally races the black flash..... if u look at it, they leave this timestream completely
http://img208.echo.cx/my.php?image=flash141p132fo.jpg

I know Flash can do that.

But just like I said, it took him TIME, he didn't just leave the Timestream in a fraction of a second,

it was taking him Fractions of Seconds just to cross Continents on Earth, he ran and buit up his speed and THEN ran out of this Timestream.


Wanda turns him into a pair of car keys.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
I know Flash can do that.

But just like I said, it took him TIME, he didn't just leave the Timestream in a fraction of a second,

it was taking him Fractions of Seconds just to cross Continents on Earth, he ran and buit up his speed and THEN ran out of this Timestream.


Wanda turns him into a pair of car keys. your correct, but the reason it took him so long is because he determained that the only way he could beat BF was by leaving the timestream, once he decided this he left the 20th century very quickly....... but whether it was quick enough to avoid wanda is debatable

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
your correct, but the reason it took him so long is because he determained that the only way he could beat BF was by leaving the timestream, once he decided this he left the 20th century very quickly....... but whether it was quick enough to avoid wanda is debatable

You know what I just thought about.

It wouldn't make a difference if he jumped into a different Timeline, because that Timeline still belongs to that Universe, Eternity (ALL of Time) Infinity (ALL of Space)

His only true escape is running OUT of the Universe faster than the speed of thought.

He can't cover that distance that fast.

It takes ONE second to cover 186,000 miles.

The Milky Way Galaxy alone is about 100,000 Light Years in diameter.

And there's millions of Galaxies in One Universe, seperated by 100's of 1000's of Light Years.

Jesse7
Hold on, ill get the scans and mathematical explanation of when Flash runs at 800 trillion times the speed of light or some thing like that.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
You know what I just thought about.

It wouldn't make a difference if he jumped into a different Timeline, because that Timeline still belongs to that Universe, Eternity (ALL of Time) Infinity (ALL of Space)

His only true escape is running OUT of the Universe faster than the speed of thought.

He can't cover that distance that fast.

It takes ONE second to cover 186,000 miles.

The Milky Way Galaxy alone is about 100,000 Light Years in diameter.

And there's millions of Galaxies in One Universe, seperated by 100's of 1000's of Light Years. you are right i dont know if he can move faster then the speed of thought, but remember the fact that flash is 1000's of times faster then the speed of light (mabye more), and he can actually run to the end of time (this is how he beat BF, because at the end of time death had no meaning)

Mr Master
Originally posted by Jesse7
Hold on, ill get the scans and mathematical explanation of when Flash runs at 800 trillion times the speed of light or some thing like that.

I don't doubt it.

My question is,

Does he reach this speed faster than the speed of thought?

Or does he buid upto this speed? (If takes him even ONE second, it's slower than the speed of thought)



Psychology Department, Newcastle University, UK.

Recent evidence suggests that sensory information is processed much faster than was previously thought and that individual neurons need to be active for only twenty to thirty milliseconds to mediate perception.


This is dope.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Mr Master
And Wanda will materialize half a Universe away when she immediately wakes up, and from that same distance turns Flash into an apple.
Who cares Flash won the match it is all that matters

Jesse7
The speed feat
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla89pg012jd.jpg

Metalmanx
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea g.

These people are seriously Underestimating HOM Wanda.

Flash can't do squat to Wanda.


I'll concede that Reed would lose the UN to Flash.

But Wanda will erase Flash, sooner or later.

No offense, but I think you're the one SEVERELY underestimating Flash here.

I know what HOM Wanda can do. I also know what Flash can do.

Flash kicks her ass. Hard. 1000000000 times. Before she even realizes she's dead.

She's not unbeatable. It's obvious that the arrow just plain didn't kill her immediately. She had just enough consciousness to use her power to rewrite her both her injuries and the arrow away.

Had the arrow killed her immediately, well...that's it. She'd be dead.

In my opinion, Hawkeye messed up. He should've gone for the head-shot.

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
you are right i dont know if he can move faster then the speed of thought, but remember the fact that flash is 1000's of times faster then the speed of light (mabye more), and he can actually run to the end of time (this is how he beat BF, because at the end of time death had no meaning)

It takes Wanda 20 - 30 milliseconds to Think, STOP.

The Universe has a distance of atleast 10 Billion Light Years,
the Milky Way is somewhere around the middle,
he has to dash atleast 5 Billion Light years within atleast 30 milliseconds to jump out of the Universe.

They wanted to get technical with their pico measurements, let's do it.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Mr Master
It takes Wanda 20 - 30 milliseconds to Think, STOP.

The Universe has a distance of atleast 10 Billion Light Years,
the Milky Way is somewhere around the middle,
he has to dash atleast 5 Billion Light years within atleast 30 milliseconds to jump out of the Universe.

They wanted to get technical with their pico measurements, let's do it.
In that time flash beats the shit out of her

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
It takes Wanda 20 - 30 milliseconds to Think, STOP.

The Universe has a distance of atleast 10 Billion Light Years,
the Milky Way is somewhere around the middle,
he has to dash atleast 5 Billion Light years within atleast 30 milliseconds to jump out of the Universe.

They wanted to get technical with their pico measurements, let's do it. lol, i see what u mean, there is no doubt that flash can do it, but probably not in 30 milliseconds

Jesse7
The speed feat
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?...la89pg012jd.jpg

Heres the math for it now

Originally posted by Mindship
I watch Pokemon
Good job for posting the actual in-panel data.

Mindship
For shame that you quoted someone who misquoted the comic.
It is .00001 microseconds, not .0001 seconds. In other words, Flash did this, not in 1/10,000 of a second, but in 1/100,000,000,000 -- one-hundred-billionth -- of a second.
(Damn! For shame again for getting the speed-of-light wrong, too!)

So...532,000 x 70 x 100,000,000,000 divided by 186,000 = (about)...
20 trillion times lightspeed.

This means (among other things, and assuming I did my math right this time):
1. Flash could run to the nearest star and back (4.3 lightyears) in about 1/100,000 second. Or, do 100,000 round trips to Alpha Centauri in 1 full second.
2. Round trip to the nearest major galaxy -- Andromeda, about 2,300,000 lightyears away -- in about 7 seconds.
3. To the edge of the observable universe, and back (a round trip of about 28 billion lightyears), in less than 4 days.

Now That's freakin' fast.

DC comics
Shame on you, then, for calling this "near-light travel."

And Flash doesn't need to build up speed heres the evidence

Originally posted by Juntai
In the fight against Hunter where he did the "My fists hit with the power of a white dwarf star" thing, he was at lightspeed pretty instantly. He mentions Hunter moving first, and that Hunter gained a billionth of a second head start, and by the time he catches him- which judging by where the fight ends, was only a couple feet -- he was already lightspeed. In this fight he was even staggered by the vibrating hand death touch and was still lightspeed by the time he swung his hand.

Without moving, Flash could already have himself lightspeed by accelerating his molocules before he ever starts moving his legs when the race begins. Likewise, he could already be tapping into the speedforce, by the time someone says go.


If he cites the code and uses his abilities to their fullest - as he would attempt to do with forum rules. I'm not sure Surfer could keep up.

Want a scan?
Here's Flash standing still, while at the same time moving fast enough to keep up with Zoom between the seconds of our timeline because of the Speed Force Mantra .
http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=flashv2200page155be.jpg


This is a lot tougher of a discision than you're making it out to be, imo.

Could not Flash use his speed to blitz wanda before she can even think and then steal her kinitic energy and stop her from thinking all together? And then with this time use it to get out of the universe.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Metalmanx
No offense, but I think you're the one SEVERELY underestimating Flash here.
I know what HOM Wanda can do. I also know what Flash can do.

I think not.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Flash kicks her ass. Hard. 1000000000 times. Before she even realizes she's dead.

And Wanda materializes half a Universe away, where she turns Flash into miss pigy.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
She's not unbeatable. It's obvious that the arrow just plain didn't kill her immediately. She had just enough consciousness to use her power to rewrite her both her injuries and the arrow away.

I thnk your rewriting what's on panel.

Wanda gets shot by Hawk Eye
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3770/w5yp3.th.jpg

Seems like she's dead
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1153/w7sc2.th.jpg
Notice the arrows Position, right on the side of the Heart,

Hawkeye came to KILL, READ the scan.

But can't die...arrow in her back deconstructs...everything is as was.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6858/w6dw8.th.jpg
"If I couldn't KILL you"......that's right buddy, you couldn't.


Originally posted by Metalmanx
Had the arrow killed her immediately, well...that's it. She'd be dead.

You mean well....like this.

After Wanda says, "No more Mutants"...she Obliterates everything
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9313/w10sq9.th.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2359/w11xt8.th.jpg
Wanda didn't turn to atoms or molecules or pudding or anything, her FRAIL HUMAN BODY SURVIVED, like nothing ever happened

Wanda SURVIVES Universal Obliteration and Remakes the Universe one last time
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/9958/w1nt5.th.jpg


If she can take a Universe Exploding in her face, I think she can handle an arrow to the head, wouldn't you say?

Jesse7
read my post! >_>

Mr Master
Originally posted by Jesse7
Could not Flash use his speed to blitz wanda before she can even think and then steal her kinitic energy and stop her from thinking all together? And then with this time use it to get out of the universe.

By this estimation on the Mindship quote

Flash can run To the edge of the observable universe, and back (a round trip of about 28 billion lightyears), in less than 4 days.

This means it would take him atleast 2 days to run OUT of the Universe, way to much Time for Wanda who controls the Range of a Universe.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
By this estimation on the Mindship quote

Flash can run To the edge of the observable universe, and back (a round trip of about 28 billion lightyears), in less than 4 days.

This means it would take him atleast 2 days to run OUT of the Universe, way to much Time for Wanda who controls the Range of a Universe. but do u think wanda could stop flash in the time it takes him to cover 30 feet? because they are only 30 feet apart at the start of this battle

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
but do u think wanda could stop flash in the time it takes him to cover 30 feet? because they are only 30 feet apart during this battle

Not at all.

He will reach her and probably pulvarize her body into mush.

She immediately reforms this time shielded from Flash (like she must've been when the Universe blew up in her face) and erases Flash, who can't possibly run away in time.

It would take him TWO days to run Out of the Universe.

If he continues to bash her body as to not allow her to reform, she'll materialize elsewhere, heck...she has Control of ALL Reality in a Universe.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
Not at all.

He will reach her and probably pulvarize her body into mush.

She immediately reforms this time shielded from Flash (like she must've been when the Universe blew up in her face) and erases Flash, who can't possibly run away in time.

It would take him TWO days to run Out of the Universe.

If he continues to bash her body as to not allow her to reform, she'll materialize elsewhere, heck...she has Control of ALL Reality in a Universe. but couldnt flash just run forward into time missing wanda's attack completely?

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
but couldnt flash just run forward into time missing wanda's attack completely?

Her attack is ALL Reality, how can he out run that?

Where ever he goes, Wanda controls the air, ground and everything else completely, power over life and death, power over creation.

Every point in Time that has taken place in the Universe, Wanda controls, so if goes to 3000 BC, Wanda is there in sandles and a robe turning him into food for the poor.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
Her attack is ALL Reality, how can he out run that?

Where ever he goes, Wanda controls the air, ground and everything else completely, power over life and death, power over creation.

Every point in Time that has taken place in the Universe, Wanda controls, so if goes to 3000 BC, Wanda is there in sandles and a robe turning him into food for the poor. yes, but flash has shown the ability to be able to run to the end of existance/time, to a place where not even death can exist......this does take time but im not sure how much time (but its not very long):
http://img208.echo.cx/my.php?image=flash141p140ro.jpg
http://img208.echo.cx/my.php?image=flash141p159li.jpg

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
yes, but flash has shown the ability to be able to run to the end of existance/time, to a place where not even death can exist......this does take time but im not sure how much time (but its not very long):
http://img208.echo.cx/my.php?image=flash141p140ro.jpg
http://img208.echo.cx/my.php?image=flash141p159li.jpg

Nice scans.

but it takes Flash atleast Two days to run out of the Universe.

Wanda controls every aspect of the Universe, including Time which is part of the Universe.

Flash has no hope.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice scans.

but it takes Flash atleast Two days to run out of the Universe.

Wanda controls every aspect of the Universe, including Time which is part of the Universe.

Flash has no hope. thanks........ well if wanda can control time to its fullest then she could prevent flash from running forward/backward in the timestream, he would have to stay in the physical plane...... and though he is fast, as u said he could not reach the end of the universe in the time it would take wanda to think about destroying it....his only hope is hitting wanda from 30 feet away when they start (which would splatter her) and then running into the timestream and hope she didnt close it in on him lol!

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
....his only hope is hitting wanda from 30 feet away when they start (which would splatter her) and then running into the timestream and hope she didnt close it in on him lol!

Come to think of it, he probably won't even touch her then.

When Hawkeye stuck an arrow in her, she was distracted by Strange in a conversation.

If she's coming to battle, she's not coming unprotected,

she'll withstand anything Flash does physically,

just like she withstood a Universe exploding in her face.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
Come to think of it, he probably won't even touch her then.

When Hawkeye stuck an arrow in her, she was distracted by Strange in a conversation.

If she's coming to battle, she's not coming unprotected,

she'll withstand anything Flash does physically,

just like she withstood a Universe exploding in her face. well mabye, if she could manifest some sort of shield before flash could hit her from 30 feet away (which would be very hard) then she could win, but what we are both forgetting it that unless flash grabs the UN first then reed will destroy both flash and wanda with the click of a button

I watch Pokemon

Mr Master

Jesse7
Ah I think I know of a way Flash could reach the edge of the Universe in less then a second ^_^, he recites the speed formula and becomes like Zoom in speed that added with his own speed, I think he could run out of the universe easily.

Mr Master
Originally posted by galan7777777
well mabye, if she could manifest some sort of shield before flash could hit her from 30 feet away (which would be very hard) then she could win,

No one can get near Wanda unless she allows it, shield or no shield, Reality is hers.

Originally posted by galan7777777
but what we are both forgetting it that unless flash grabs the UN first then reed will destroy both flash and wanda with the click of a button

Well it's Wanda and Reed vs Flash.

No matter what happens to Reed, Wanda will erase Flash now, in the past or the future, then she'll remake Reed.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Mr Master
No one can get near Wanda unless she allows it, shield or no shield, Reality is hers.



Well it's Wanda and Reed vs Flash.

No matter what happens to Reed, Wanda will erase Flash now, in the past or the future, then she'll remake Reed.
nope if flash uses the UN on her

Mr Master
Originally posted by Jesse7
Ah I think I know of a way Flash could reach the edge of the Universe in less then a second ^_^, he recites the speed formula and becomes like Zoom in speed that added with his own speed, I think he could run out of the universe easily.

I don't understand this Jess.

And Flash has to make it in less than 30 milliseconds.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Mr Master
No one can get near Wanda unless she allows it, shield or no shield, Reality is hers.



Well it's Wanda and Reed vs Flash.

No matter what happens to Reed, Wanda will erase Flash now, in the past or the future, then she'll remake Reed. yes, but if flash didnt grab the UN first and went straight for wanda then reed would destroy the multiverse with the click of a button as he has done before, but if flash went for reed first then wanda would have time to destroy the universe, either way the flash might not last very long, unless the first thing he did was run out of that timestream, but thats not winning smile

Mr Master
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
nope if flash uses the UN on her

Flash will rub himself out, if he presses that button.

rotiart
Faster than light... flash crosses the threshhold... grabs the UN, and turns to use it on Reed and the Witch...

Only to realize he's aimed it the wrong way!blowup

Jesse7
Originally posted by Mr Master
Flash will rub himself out, if he presses that button.

I thought the UN doesn't destroy the user but rather just re-write the universe/multiverse?

Secondly the Speed formula pushes a person to Zooms level, is it called the speed formula? The one in which disjoints them from time and they are on their own sped up time line.

galan7777777
Originally posted by Jesse7
I thought the UN doesn't destroy the user but rather just re-write the universe/multiverse?

Secondly the Speed formula pushes a person to Zooms level, is it called the speed formula? The one in which disjoints them from time and they are on their own sped up time line. not if the UN's user understands what he is destroying/recreating, in reeds hands the UN=the multiverses destruction nuke

Jesse7
Secondly the Speed formula pushes a person to Zooms level, is it called the speed formula? The one in which disjoints them from time and they are on their own sped up time line.

Tron
Originally posted by Draco69
Takes place in Nevada Desert. No PIS/CIS. Bloodlust on.

They are standing 30 feet apart from each other.

Wonder how this thread turns out....

evil face

As amusing as I find this, you know full well that this is some straight up spite.

Originally posted by David_Richards
THis is a spite thread. Wandas power work at the speed of thought. She takes this alone.

Yes it is, but that's not why.

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