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let's suppose anakin didn't fall to the magma in episode III and he isn't a human-cyborg...

they're in lets say... a landing platform in coruscant.... who would win? any opinions?

Vader.
Wrong section.

i know sorry

This was done in the Comics I believe, except it was suited Vader, against a cloned Darth Maul, Maul lost

ok im sorry if i do many mistakes its jut um im a new member so sorry

I would have to say vader...

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
This was done in the Comics I believe, except it was suited Vader, against a cloned Darth Maul, Maul lost

Yes, it happened in an Infinities comic therefore non-canon. And, in any case, it's not a clone for definite, Leland Chee has said in his blog:

"It's not quite the real Darth Maul. Hence the "or something." Who knows, it could have been a vision like Luke confronting Vader on Dagobah or just some sort of Sith illusion. Or a clone. Nothing's been determined as to what we are actually seeing, just that Vader and Maul have a pretty cool battle."

So, who's to say it was even as good as the real Maul? Doesn't really matter, because Vader wins.

Volter, we stil llvoe you. Well, except for Advent. She hates you. Wit ha passion, actually.

As if you need a comic to tell you Vader would win.

lol why does she hate me?

Originally posted by Darth Volter
lol why does she hate me?

She hates everybody

then its fine

Except for me. Her and Escape love me.

must be cool

She also doesn't hate me. But she doesn't like me. That's because we've never seen each other before.

Originally posted by Council#13
She also doesn't hate me. But she doesn't like me. That's because we've never seen each other before.

She may not have ever seen you, but she still hates you, the day you make a thread, or even post on one, she hates you

Originally posted by Advent
Yes, it happened in an Infinities comic therefore non-canon.

Are any Infinities canon? I've heard a few of them are.

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
She may not have ever seen you, but she still hates you, the day you make a thread, or even post on one, she hates you

Oh. That's not nice

True, but Asajj also progresses much through the war and gains much experience (fights loads of jedi for instance), although I would agree that by Obsession, Obi-Wan is the clear superior. I'd also like to point out that she holds Obi in the air without her hands to guide her, pretty good mastery of the force imo. Though, as you mentioned Obi-Wan was very fatigued and injured in the battle which undermines the feat by quite lot. Also, I don't see why Asajj wouldn't improve with the force.



Possibly, you have a point but I was kinda treating this thread about who has the ability to win. Assaj imo has the ability, just possibly wouldn't in practise.



I completely agree, Soresu is just too passive a form and gives the opponent time to execute something such as a force attack.



1. ROTS Grievous is not as deadly as CW Grievous.
2. These jedi weren't exactly the strongest of jedi, and they were tired as thay had just been fighting a war.
3. Asajj replicates a similar feat in Jedi: Mace Windu. IIRC, she doesn't fight as many as Grievous does but she still shows that she is easily capable of fighting strong numbers of jedi.

Though you do have a point, Asajj has never been shown to take on that many jedi as easily as Grievous did, though just because she never does it it doesn't mean she doesn't have the ability.



I'd say that his speed was a major part of his overall skill (along with strength and unpredictability.



I completely agree.
Asajj has displayed good enough force mastery to lift Obi-Wan up with the force without the need of her hands to guide her. This would mean that she would probably be able to pull something off in a heartbeat, as she doesn't need to waste precious seconds raising her hands etc.

Originally posted by Advent
Yes, it happened in an Infinities comic therefore non-canon.

I believe it happened in a "Tales" comic, not "Infinities." The issue number was 9. I have it.

Anyway. Vader wins.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Are any Infinities canon? I've heard a few of them are.

Some Tales comics have canon elements, but the stories aren't canon. The only ones I know of that are fully canonical are the Star Wars Tales issues 21-24, the rest are non-canon.

@ SnakeEyes:

Yeah, you're right - it did happen in Tales # 9. My mistake. Still non-canon, and still an Infinity though (the actual term, not comic).

Vader wins... "All too easy."

It may not be canon, but its the only duel between the two we see, and all else is secondary, however, it's still suspect.

Slick editing on that one, lol. <i></i>

I'm actually pretty sure this is canon.

Originally posted by Advent
Slick editing on that one, lol. <i></i>
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