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why do you think about that?? (will/liz thing)

because on that KTTC forum..and Disney seem to be "hinting" they are making it a Will/Liz thing..and that the J/E stuff is meant to be a spanner in the workd of will/Liz

and i think its BULL Shit

because when you look at what they say properly and what the movies are suggesting it all points to Jack/Liz

I'm just shouting out and hoping Disney can see this incase they are really making it a will/Liz thing..which I doubt..

maybe they just say it to surprise all those stupid will/liz people...otherwise I'll hate Disney forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

exactly thats my point lol I'm being sarcastic in a way...I'm not saying they were perfect for one another..although the end of movie 1 suggested they were pretty happy together...why would they add movie 2 in there just so they can "learn to be a better couple" by movie 3..when they were pretty "happy" to start with

the answer is that movie 2 is supposed to show each character that the way they live life is causing them to be unsatisfied..and then they start to realize what DOES make them satisfied in life..and its not how they used to live (will/Liz... Jack/material possessions)..it makes a lot more sense if movie 2 was there for them to learn that instead of it being there for them to learn that they were perfectly happy with how they started out in movie 1..no interesting story does that...its makes movie 2 pointless if it was there for them to learn that they are happy how they were

Disney would officially suck if they ended it Will/Liz..

yes, agreed. if they just wanted to prove the will/liz thing, they could have left out all those pretty sexy scenes and just done the kiss at the end...but i think the curiosity scene shows exactly what each person wants and how good they know each other! I mean the whole movie Will doesn't care about Liz only at the end because he sees her kissing jack. and even in tias hut, when she asked to go after jack, he doesn't do it for liz, I think he does it to free his father because that's exactly what tia said...

i truely love disney...but if they dissapoint me/us..im gonna be so depressed.
But im not gonna get my hopes down nor im not gonna give up.

woah guys.

the writers wrote schrek, remember? thats a hint for jack if i ever saw one. Lol.

disney also made pocahontas, where the girl definately doesnt end up with her first love.

there s always hope!

Why are you gong on KTTC? You know it's biased and they look for as much Will/Liz evidence as they can and spin everything that way. Like Kate said, there is always hope, and she brings up good points. Jack won't let Liz go without a fight.

i know and we wont give up without a cyber fight either agains the KTTC ass holes from broke ass crack mountain.
We are so gonna keep the faith!

yeah! when the dvd comes we will know more...maybe our hopes get new hope or maybe all our hopes will be destroyed! 85 days

omg! another brain blast who remebers the shot of jack sparrow with giselle and scarlett? (the one floating the internet) what if in that shot he's sceeming with the girls like "hey ladies don't waste your time being mad with me you know...." long converstaion longer he hooks them up with will...that'd be pretty funny

sailorleo what u mean floating in the internet??
what about scarlette and gissele??im so confused

um...you know that one pic....it's on this forum some where...

apparently the ending hasnt even been shot yet..so that scene isnt in the ending lol..

man...i wish i could watch them film the ending....how cool would that be?

mega cool but it will mega spoil us
im gonna wait lol so then i could laugh in an evil way at KTTC

lol i think they just kicked me off there cuz I had a rant about wasting my time and money watching a trilogy where the over all message is "will & liz start happy together..and then they learn in movie 2 and 3 that they were always meant to be together.. Jack starts of loving material things..movie 2 and 3 teach him he still loves them..BORING!

waste of our money and DISNEY's money if THATS what the overall message is..of the trilogy..why even START one if the message ends exactly the SAME?

sorry that whole notion actually made me laugh out loud just now when I read it back to myself.

i know if they are gonna end pirates with regular old jack the i want my 5.50 money back!! and i also think its ridiculous to waste ink and paper on the many liz/jack scenes!! Its aweful that the trees must suffer to make paper for scripts that would be a total waste of time doing the same shit!!!! DISNEY DONT LET US DOWN!!

the way i see it, in 1 they wanted to focus on the will/elizabeth relationship which is why the did not put in the jack/elizabeth scenes like 'peas in a pod' and the rest of the island scenes...

They did not plan on a sequel back then...

SO if they still insist that it is a Will/Elizabeth ending then WHY put the jack/Elizabeth scenes in now??

Eh?? eh?? Eh?? See what im hinting at here???

The writers have more to play with, with jack and elizabeth. they are aware of the chemistry because THEY are the ones that wrote it...the actors didnt add the lines in themselves (to my knowledge...)

To Conclude: Scenes deleted in 1 meant elizabeth and will ending..

Scenes NOT deleted in 2 means elizabeth and jack ending...


Amen

praise the Lord LOOOOL U go sister T.Maria loool
who knows maybe they will try to add in AWE jack saying peas in the pod!!

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
praise the Lord LOOOOL U go sister T.Maria loool
who knows maybe they will try to add in AWE jack saying peas in the pod!!


id love that!

although...notice the lines "we are similar I and you..you and I...us"

they are a similar sort of saying as 'peas in a pod' ... could that not be the writers adding the line in again, only in a different sense??

yea! they mustve changed the words but meant saying the same thing as peas in a pod.
I think hopefully at some point he'll say it again in AWE and then some sex disney style lol jk but hopefully there will be some kissing

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
yea! they mustve changed the words but meant saying the same thing as peas in a pod.
I think hopefully at some point he'll say it again in AWE and then some sex disney style lol jk but hopefully there will be some kissing

lmao i love you! you make my day!

Does disney do the 'sex' thing in its action adventures??
or do they focus on the action more??

i know what kind of 'action' i would personally like to see... ...hopefully we will get kisses or something that would imply it...

i agree with you aswell that they will have a similar convo in 3, they HAVE to...things are by no means over between them...

but what if somehow HE thought she had jst changed him to the mast, and didnt realise the kiss meant anything more?

is that possible????

well hmmm....titanic was pg 13 there was sex in that....and if AWE wants to do better....hmmmm....

Originally posted by sailorleo
well hmmm....titanic was pg 13 there was sex in that....and if AWE wants to do better....hmmmm....


v.true!

But i dont know with disney...they won't even put nipples on their cartoon characters!!!

everyone needs nipples...

hmmmm pirates of the porno-bbean lol
Well i think they both knew that kiss meant something
they both got a taste of eachother
she got a taste of his freedom
he got a taste of innosence

of course that kiss was also like a distraction but it meant so much more than that.

lol nice. Pirates of the pporno-bean! that would b very interesting

What I notice is that Disney are deliberately making Jack be the one who LIZ is controlling sexually because she is a virgin..and if Jack was all forward etc..it would make his character look bad because he is very experienced...so if there is sex..It will probably be where Jack is very caring of how it will effect her..they don't want to make it look as if this man is "spoiling her"..and they will both have to be perfectly ready for it

Which is basically whats happening already..Jack is the one who lets HER do everything..so the relationship isn't "horrible" on screen..its very romantic to be honest..it would be rather horrible if Jack was all forward and trying to seduce this young virgin..Its not like that at all..he genuinely loves her and cares about the choices she is making when it comes to him.


Its all about Elizabeth finding confidence in her sexuality and Jack learning how to NOT be over confident with his sexuality when it comes to her..he respects Elizabeth..He doesnt want to force her into anything..he lets her take it all at her own pace..

which is why the chemistry works on screen.

that sexual suggestion wasnt really about Jack being forward..it was about him responding to her obvious sexual frustration..

Lol sex in Disney films. I don't think I can see that happening.

As for what someone said about the "stupid" Will/Liz people.. I'm not stupid It's just that there seems to be many more people who want Jack and Elizabeth together, doesn't mean I'm stupid because I want Will and Elizabeth together

aww I dont mean people like you are stupid..its the ones on KTTC who will basically stamp on you for suggesting something thats obvious in the movie and they will then PM the mods complaining about how "I'm disturbing the peace"

I just get irritated..

you say to them..the compass was pointing to Jack..even Ted Elliot suggests this

and they will say "no it was pointing to Will every time through Jack"

so Jack just happened to be standing in the way of will every time the compass pointed at him? lmao..


then when I state the obvious they will PM a mod and say I'm disrupting the board..lol

friggin cult worship over there i'm tellin ya..

And I apologize, leggy n merry, if that was me. I don't always remember what I type, so I apologize in advance. I'm a Jack/Liz. So based on your sig, are you a Phantom/Christine or a Raoul/Christine? I'm a Raoul/Christine myself.

I really don't think they will show any sex in these movies. They've caught on that kids watch them and most action movies don't have gratuitous sex. I would be shocked if we saw anything more than erotic kissing.

no we wont see the old "in out in out"..it will probably only be kissing then a fade out like you said..probably Will's angry face

sorry that was rather rude of me to say in out in out..oh damn I said it again!

but if they can add a giant vagina into the movie (resembles Liz..spits the hat out that she was wearing) that basically comes all over Jack..then he gets his SWORD out and jumps right into it "hello beastie" which is a call back to the "persuade me scene" and the handling of HIS sword (his penis) and actually get away with it like they did..then I would say anything is possible in PotC

I'm sorry but its actually in the movie...sorry about my langueage..maybbe I should put that spoiler thing over it..but that will make kids want to look at it more..its like porn without the hard core nudity..

Yes, yes, yes, but it's all done covertly. It is not the same thing as Liz saying "I know how to handle a sword" and then just grabbing Jack's penis and waving it around for all the little kiddies to see. It is done in a way that some adults get it and it goes over everyone else's head and can be interpreted as something completely innocent and compliments the story.
While I snickered at the Kracken because it looks like a vagina, I wasn't thinking "this is the sex scene we missed out on." I was thinking "Shit, it's swallowing Jack!" My mom even looked over at me like, "Why didn't you tell me he DIES?"

Originally posted by willofthewisp
Yes, yes, yes, but it's all done covertly. It is not the same thing as Liz saying "I know how to handle a sword" and then just grabbing Jack's penis and waving it around for all the little kiddies to see. It is done in a way that some adults get it and it goes over everyone else's head and can be interpreted as something completely innocent and compliments the story.
While I snickered at the Kracken because it looks like a vagina, I wasn't thinking "this is the sex scene we missed out on." I was thinking "Shit, it's swallowing Jack!" My mom even looked over at me like, "Why didn't you tell me he DIES?"


^^u just made my laugh of the day lool
but about the sword handling thing.
I think liz was trying to say "i can challenge u into a fight-sword fight"
but i guess jack wanted to twist it a little to make her more frustrated.
I think thats why liz wanted to laugh bc she prob understood what jack meant.

ok, this is way off topic, but im dying to know. who is on Leggy n merry's icon!! anyone know? or u can answer uurself LnM

i think its phantom of the opera

no, thats her siggy, whats her icon/avatar? it kinda looks like uummm, that one guy from 7th heaven! crap! *searches IMDB* DAVID GALLAGHER! thats it! man, i love that show!!

Ok first of all you people make me laugh. If you honestly think that the theme of the movie is who the hell Liz ends up with and you 'wasted your money' if she ends up with Will then you need to go back and see the movies. Sure it's an ongoing theme but so is Barboss'a passion for apples. Were you also wasting your money because he finally got to take a bite of one? You people act as if it's some chick flick / Romantic comedy.

If you look beyond the obvious you will see what the writers are pointing toward...and it is romantic...Pirates was a romantic time period that's why people are so fascinated by it...and besides...they advertise it as being Jack is searching for the chest to save his soul....but the compass isn't working for him...the compass doesn't point him to the chest because he is vexed..and we also learn through other clues that Jack is vexed because of his deep secret attraction and desire to be with Elizabeth....but he tries to stay away from her (between the two movies) because he thinks that it's not right, she's too young, she's a virgin, she's already in love with someone else...etc....they are not from the same background...but on the other hand he knows they are alike...she is a Pirate at heart...anyways...no more time to post...will finish this later.

yeah, totally!aahhh, Johnny