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aww come on this is a good one

Thor 12/10.

I hate to have to ask... but classic Thor or Odin Power Thor?

Originally posted by Scoobless
I hate to have to ask... but classic Thor or Odin Power Thor?

As of Civil War #3, it is Thor back to his classical form, no?

Originally posted by batdude123
As of Civil War #3, it is Thor back to his classical form, no?
Man, I dont want to believe that is Thor

Originally posted by batdude123
As of Civil War #3, it is Thor back to his classical form, no?

Can't really tell from the single page he appeared on... and I haven't seen anything else with him in it since then

pre odin powered thor

Then I think Iron Man would win.... Thor would have to use pretty much all of his energy to damage Ady IM whereas Stark could just constatnly attack Thor in the normal ways

Originally posted by Scoobless
Then I think Iron Man would win.... Thor would have to use pretty much all of his energy to damage Ady IM whereas Stark could just constatnly attack Thor in the normal ways
hmmm good point i was thinkin pre disassembled thor but i thought he might be too powerful

Wouldent Thors energy attacks work? Cosmic energy, anti-matter, anti-force ect... I dont know a lot about the E- armor.

I don't know much about Iron Man but couldn't Thor fry him in his suit?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Then I think Iron Man would win.... Thor would have to use pretty much all of his energy to damage Ady IM whereas Stark could just constatnly attack Thor in the normal ways

I just sprayed my coke everywhere. crylaugh

Originally posted by The Pict
I don't know much about Iron Man but couldn't Thor fry him in his suit?
Im kinda wondering the same thing. The suits electronics should be succeptable after a point shouldent they. Im sure their tuff but they have to have a limit.

ok what if it was rune king thor

Dude, Thor 45/10

Thor frys the suit and blows the circuits with powerfull lighting, the same kind used to fry hercules in civil war 3.

hence the reason why i'm using classic thor

This fight would play out like all the times Thor failed to beat Ultron ... except that Iron Man has superior offensive weaponry to Ultron

which would be harder, adamantium or the amor of the destroyer?

I'm thinking that all the energy that Thor throws at IM will just be absorbed by the suit and redirected to either increase his power supply or the offensive power of his weaponry.

Couple that with armor laced with adamantium and shields on top of that?

And extremis to boot?!?

Iron Man wins this.

Originally posted by Priest
which would be harder, adamantium or the amor of the destroyer?

Destroyer armor is stronger than adamantium. But, Marvel never says what it is. Just that it is only found in Asgard. And, it isn't Uru.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Man, I dont want to believe that is Thor

Im sure the armors got a limit. I just wander what it is? Besides Thors busted a celestials armor. I think he's got a good chance.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555

cosigned

Originally posted by lando005
who wins

Are you kidding? Classic Thor actually put a slight dent in a solid cylinder of true adamantium. This adamantium laced nonsense wouldnt last. What's more, the force of impact alone would vaporize the contents of the armor. But then again all Thor has to do is hit Iron Man with lightning.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Are you kidding? Classic Thor actually put a slight dent in a solid cylinder of true adamantium. This adamantium laced nonsense wouldnt last. What's more, the force of impact alone would vaporize the contents of the armor. But then again all Thor has to do is hit Iron Man with lightning.

Wonder Man's battle with Ultron goes to show that even if you are covered in the stuff, your insides are still vulnerable.

He shook Ultron so hard, ... he broke him inside.

Lightning isn't going to do anything, Iron Man was taking lightning hits from Thor 25 armours ago

Hitting him wont vaporise Tony, he's been hit by Thor and others just as strong before (Hulk, Nefaria, Nefarius, Adaptoid, Sentry, etc)

Shaking him wont do it either, it worked against older Ultron's because they weren't sufficiently insulated/padded..... IM has inertial dampeners and stuff that let him fly at high mach speeds unaffected... also Nefaria has done as much to him physically as thor would do

With adamantium armour Tony wins this.

this says nothing about it being adamantium laced. this is extremis tony in SOLID ADAMANTIUM. come on. he would so win this.

Thor can just teleport the bastard to a hell dimension...

Tony's not coming back....

I wasnt going to pull the bfr yet but yea that would work just fine. Then thiers the shrinking and trapping in a ball thing, several other seldon used powers that would work as well. Thor dosnt have to open a portal and throw him in either. He did it to Surter and Ymir so Im pretty sure it would work on Tony.

How do we know for sure that Thor freezing the armor over long periods of time, or heating it, would not effect Tony?

I mean, yes, the aromor is indestructible, but that doesn't mean that the inner workings are impervious to temerature changes, especially over prolonged periods of time.

We would have to see feats that showed it.

Personally, I don't believe that Tony is totally shieled from EVERYTHING in his armor.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Lightning isn't going to do anything, Iron Man was taking lightning hits from Thor 25 armours ago

Hitting him wont vaporise Tony, he's been hit by Thor and others just as strong before (Hulk, Nefaria, Nefarius, Adaptoid, Sentry, etc)

Shaking him wont do it either, it worked against older Ultron's because they weren't sufficiently insulated/padded..... IM has inertial dampeners and stuff that let him fly at high mach speeds unaffected... also Nefaria has done as much to him physically as thor would do

With adamantium armour Tony wins this.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Draco69
Thor can just teleport the bastard to a hell dimension...

Tony's not coming back....

Tony and Doom broke their old-school armors down to make a time machine. Making a dimension hopping device now and just by himself would be easy pickings.

But then Tony comes back naked and gets smashed.

With inertial dampers and what not, even Extremis Tony still gets tired and he's been knocked out before without his armor being damaged. I remember he walloped a mind-controlled Thor before. But a Thor aware of what he's doing, IMHO, takes this.

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
I'm thinking that all the energy that Thor throws at IM will just be absorbed by the suit and redirected to either increase his power supply or the offensive power of his weaponry.

Couple that with armor laced with adamantium and shields on top of that?

And extremis to boot?!?

Iron Man wins this.



I agree with that 100%. Iron Man has pushed Thor hard in the past, without extremis or adamantium, with both the armor's durability would shoot off the scales.

No amount of lightning would damage that armor, especially if we are talking about true adamantium. Nothing short of cosmic-level powered weapon or molecular rearrangement can damage it, and Thor in the past has only been able to place a small dent in a small piece of it with his best hit from Mjolnir.

Thor kicks his Iornman ass.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem


I agree with that 100%. Iron Man has pushed Thor hard in the past, without extremis or adamantium, with both the armor's durability would shoot off the scales.

No amount of lightning would damage that armor, especially if we are talking about true adamantium. Nothing short of cosmic-level powered weapon or molecular rearrangement can damage it, and Thor in the past has only been able to place a small dent in a small piece of it with his best hit from Mjolnir.

Wait so you did not see Thor melt Adamantium with his eye beams?

extremis armor would take this fight 7/10
besides thor doesnt even know about im extremis upgrade
hed probably go easy on im then get his butt kicked

Originally posted by Fanboy
Wait so you did not see Thor melt Adamantium with his eye beams?

Completely irrelevant... go back and read the first page again

This is similar to Thor vs Juggernaunt.Thor's only chance is to BFR tony.

He can BFR Tony right out of his armor if he wanted to, with his hammer's teleportation.he is stronger, so he could just take him underwater, and wait until
a. Tony's air supply runs out.
b. His rebreathing system stops working, however long that takes.

Or, he can expose Tony to intense radiation. Adamantium is not radiation proof. It can still be contaminated.
I thought Thor also as used a type of mind control in the past.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Completely irrelevant... go back and read the first page again

Oh yeah we are not talking about King Thor right?

Originally posted by Fanboy
Oh yeah we are not talking about King Thor right?

Right... it's classic, pre -death of Odin - Thor

Thor wins. Unless Iron has a chance of winning then someone put up some scans that show him having sufficient power to beat Thor.

There are no scans of Iron Man in an adamantium armour because he's never had one

Adamantium is not the Trump card.
And, I don't believe that Tony's technology would totally insulate him from Thor's blows and power.
I think a few monster shots from Thor would turn Iron Man's adamantium armor into an adamantium "Blood-Thermos".

thor ftw

I see it like Ironman/Sentry, for whichever reason

Thor 7/10

Originally posted by Horrificus Or, he can expose Tony to intense radiation. Adamantium is not radiation proof. It can still be contaminated.

Iron Man's shields have protected him from large amounts of radiation in the past. The underwater thing may not go that well either, Iron Man has fought and defeated Namor in the water before, underwater Namor > Thor.

In old armors Iron Man has stalemated Silver Surfer twice, defeated a full powered Terrax, and defeated Savage Hulk countless times. We all know how much trouble Thor has had with these guys, now add Adamantium Extremis into the mix and Thor is in trouble here.

The scans below are of Thor being controlled by the Psycho Prism, he is whooping Avenger ass until Iron Man steps in and takes the piss out of him, once again in non-adamantium/extremis armor.

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yes my first successful thread ever

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
Iron Man's shields have protected him from large amounts of radiation in the past. The underwater thing may not go that well either, Iron Man has fought and defeated Namor in the water before, underwater Namor > Thor.

In old armors Iron Man has stalemated Silver Surfer twice, defeated a full powered Terrax, and defeated Savage Hulk countless times. We all know how much trouble Thor has had with these guys, now add Adamantium Extremis into the mix and Thor is in trouble here.

The scans below are of Thor being controlled by the Psycho Prism, he is whooping Avenger ass until Iron Man steps in and takes the piss out of him, once again in non-adamantium/extremis armor.

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Nice... though I'd have to disagree with one point and say Thor>>Namor... wherever they are

Adamantium isnt gonna save Tony. I could name several other ways Thor could beat him without laying a hand on him.
BFR would be easy and to places Tonys not coming back from.
I hate useing this but I know the armors not absorbing a godblast. Espically one like destroyed exitars dome.(
He could trap him in a anit-graviton field like he did super skrull. Maybe he could tansmute part of his armor like he did to absorbing man. Then theirs the shrinking trick like he did to hyperion. Maybe just erase his memory like he did in the invaders comic. Anti force has damaged mangog, it may damage the armor as well or overlaod some of its systems.

So could I... but Thor considers most of his alternatives to be less honourable.... which is why he only ever uses those tactics, such as BFR, as a last resort... even against the Destroyer

I agree but using all his powers Iron man is not gonna beat him. One more good example is he could just trap him in a magical vortex like the one he used to hold the energies of the life bomb. It had enough power to destroy a 5th of the universe. If it can hold that I know Tonys not getting out of it.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Nice... though I'd have to disagree with one point and say Thor>>Namor... wherever they are

You are probably right, DarkCrawler's Namor thread sucked me in pretty hard and is really convincing.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
You are probably right, DarkCrawler's Namor thread sucked

I know... It really, really did!

wow some very nice points so far but lets step it up and add in a little more detail doesnt have to be blow by blow but how do you pictue the fight going down

Um, arent those images saying that it wasn't really Thor that Iron Man was fighting?
In mind at least?
Wasn't it saying that the hammer was useless to him?
And, wasn't Tony saying that he can't beat Thor? I don't think Thor and the hammer would have been separated long enough for the enchantment to wear off.

Anyway, I say that, if the armor can be put on, it can be taken off. It isn't one continuous peice of adamantium.
And, if anybody would have the strength to pull off Tony's helmet, it would be Thor.

one note: it was revealed that the celestial allowed thor to breack its armor.

Thor dented Cap's sheild

Cap's Sheild >>> Adamantium

Originally posted by manorastroman
one note: it was revealed that the celestial allowed thor to breack its armor.
Now when was that? It sure wasnt in the same book.

i don't have the issue, but this was a topic debated about this time last year, and somebody came up with the scan. i think it was actually in a f4 comic.

Was it the armor or the dome they were talking about?

Originally posted by Horrificus Anyway, I say that, if the armor can be put on, it can be taken off. It isn't one continuous peice of adamantium.
And, if anybody would have the strength to pull off Tony's helmet, it would be Thor.

That is actually a great point, even with the extremis armor Namor has shown the ability to remove Iron Man's helmet by force.

Adamantium probably woudn't make the joints of the armor any stronger than they already are, and Thor probably could remove the helmet as well and open up a huge weakness there.

Excellent point Horrificus, and damn you for bringing it up.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
That is actually a great point, even with the extremis armor Namor has shown the ability to remove Iron Man's helmet by force.



Iron Man and Namor fought again recently? Where did this happen at I'm wondering

the armor. i'm a little fuzzy, but iirc the idea was that the celestial wanted thor to do something/find something out in it's armor.

They needed to find something in Tony's armor?

Originally posted by Innerhype
Iron Man and Namor fought again recently? Where did this happen at I'm wondering

Yeah they got into it a bit after Tony got the Extremis armor, let me see if I can find those scans again.

Be right back.

Nice, thanks

Here it is, sorry it took so long I had to grab a bite to eat and watch ECW.

The scan showing Namor removing Iron Man's helmet is the 11th one down.

Illuminati: New Avengers Special

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Out of curiosity. I thought Extremis wasn't the type of armor but an alteration to Tony Stark himself?

When Tony was injected with Extremis, at the same time he also began using this more advanced experimental suit of armor.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Thor dented Cap's sheild

Cap's Sheild >>> Adamantium

That was King Thor...same guy that ripped the head off of the Destroyer armour

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
That is actually a great point, even with the extremis armor Namor has shown the ability to remove Iron Man's helmet by force.

That fight was dumb, Namor has been thrown all over the place by Iron Man and his repulsors before but in that fight they just splashed off him like water.... and since when can't Irona Man outrun Namor in the air?

Originally posted by Scoobless
That fight was dumb, Namor has been thrown all over the place by Iron Man and his repulsors before but in that fight they just splashed off him like water.... and since when can't Irona Man outrun Namor in the air?

I don't no, but you have to admit that Namor is indeed badass.

"We ar all Wariors"

"No your a warrior, Im a King"

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
That is actually a great point, even with the extremis armor Namor has shown the ability to remove Iron Man's helmet by force.
I don't believe that was Extremis though. Didn't that upgrade occur after that skirmish?

Originally posted by Accel
I don't believe that was Extremis though. Didn't that upgrade occur after that skirmish?

Yeah, I think it did

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I don't no, but you have to admit that Namor is indeed badass.


I admit nothing!






ironman>>>>>>>>>>namor

Originally posted by Scoobless
Yeah, I think it did



I admit nothing!






ironman>>>>>>>>>>namor

Hehe

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
That is actually a great point, even with the extremis armor Namor has shown the ability to remove Iron Man's helmet by force.

Adamantium probably woudn't make the joints of the armor any stronger than they already are, and Thor probably could remove the helmet as well and open up a huge weakness there.

Excellent point Horrificus, and damn you for bringing it up.

Indeed.

I am extremely "pointy".

Thanks for the kudos.

Originally posted by manorastroman
the armor. i'm a little fuzzy, but iirc the idea was that the celestial wanted thor to do something/find something out in it's armor.

Thor was on an inhabited planet that was being judged by the Celestials.
They judged against the inhabitants.
Exitar came down to do the deed, and Thor raged against him.
Eventually, Thor wrapped his belt of strength around his hammer, stood on Exitar's head, and struck down, creating a crack that was large enough for Thor to climb into.
While he was in there, he traveled around a little, and saw that it was almost like a mini-world inside Exitar. Exitar then created a bunch of class 100 pseudo-Thors to do a pile on. Thor ended up getting the boot, and when he was back outside, the Celestials gave him a glimpse of their plan. Showing that when a planet gets judged, the inhabitants are not destroyed. They are just, kind of relocated.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Thor was on an inhabited planet that was being judged by the Celestials.
They judged against the inhabitants.
Exitar came down to do the deed, and Thor raged against him.
Eventually, Thor wrapped his belt of strength around his hammer, stood on Exitar's head, and struck down, creating a crack that was large enough for Thor to climb into.
While he was in there, he traveled around a little, and saw that it was almost like a mini-world inside Exitar. Exitar then created a bunch of class 100 pseudo-Thors to do a pile on. Thor ended up getting the boot, and when he was back outside, the Celestials gave him a glimpse of their plan. Showing that when a planet gets judged, the inhabitants are not destroyed. They are just, kind of relocated.
Thanks, but their is another instance of Thor breaking thru a celestials armor. In Thor # 300 I believe.

thor man no qontest

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thanks, but their is another instance of Thor breaking thru a celestials armor. In Thor # 300 I believe.

Cool.
Which Celestial?

Exitar

Originally posted by Scoobless
That was King Thor...same guy that ripped the head off of the Destroyer armour

Bah

Hodgepodge

King Thor also did this http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sheild0md.jpg

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
King Thor also did this http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sheild0md.jpg
It was cooler when he did the same to wolverine

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
It was cooler when he did the same to wolverine
Yes, I just like that he did it thru the shield. I was cool to see wolvie get fried.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Exitar

yeah. thats the one i was referring to. i dont know of any others.

Originally posted by Scoobless
That fight was dumb, Namor has been thrown all over the place by Iron Man and his repulsors before but in that fight they just splashed off him like water.... and since when can't Iron Man outrun Namor in the air?

I agree, as a Iron Man fanboy I think Iron man should win all the time, and I do mean all the time.

Honestly though Iron Man is obviously faster in the air, but in water it's a completely different story and Namor would have no problem catching him IMO.

There are also a few scans in the Namor thread showing him being unphased by the repulsors if I remember correctly, I would look for them but that thread is so damn big it would probably take a while to find.

Though that could be disputed as well because it's hard to tell what power level his repulsors are set to, unless it specifically states a full power blast one could contest them by saying they weren't set at the highest level.

PS- You are right about Tony not having the Extremis armor at the time of that fight, I looked into it again and I was wrong. Iron Man vol 4 #1-6 is when Tony merged with the armor, Illuminati #1 was written after that but is set a few years prior to Civil War so he couldn't have had the Extremis armor yet.

So we are back to square 1 with all of this. It is highly likely that there would be internal locks for his armor, and if those locks are made of adamantium or if the armor uses some kind of internal molecular rearranger to make his adamantium malleable it would be hard to break that open. Ultron uses the same thing to make his form movable and flexable, it would not be hard for Tony to do the same with his armor.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Indeed.

I am extremely "pointy".

Thanks for the kudos.

Hey it's only fair to acknowledge good points when they are made, to ignore them is just stupid and doesn't make for a good debate.

Um...if push came to shove, and if both Thor and Iron Man are allowed to use anything and everything in their arsenal (with what they bring in with them into this fight) in this fight, than a GEB would destroy Iron Man's Admantium Extremis Armour, and probably him with it...

and here i thought this was gonna be 1 sided

ok current thor vs addy armor im