Mister Supreme
1.Can anyone verify that Crusade-the guy who kicked both Mr. Majestic and Union,was beaten by Maul?
An poster named "X" posted this long ago on superherohype boards,but he didn't post any scans of the battle or give any issue where the fight happened.
3.MAUL FOUGHT MR. MAJESTIC-A SOLAR SYSTEM VERSION in that fight,RIGHT(if he fought against Mr. Majestic at all)?
4.Wasn't Mr. Majestic HOLDING BACK in that fight with Maul and actually only tested Maul's strength-WHAT DO YOU THINK?
(Mr. Majestic's quotes:The harder I hit him,the bigger he gets!"-I think this should give us a clue that Mr. Majestic DIDN'T WANT TO HURT MAUL AND WAS ACTUALLY TESTING HIM,according to these words)
5.Mr. Majestic's varied appearances also show a lot of inconsistency in his power and durability levels. In some appearances he can move entire planets, but in others he struggles to overcome opponents with minor superstrength. Sometimes his eyebeams are ineffective, and other times they are unstoppable. As of late, his levels have stabilized to around Superman-level abilites.
6.I also don't understand,why some people say Mr. Majestic's only true loss was against Crusade-what about the problems with characters who have a minor super-strength(like Hellspont)?
So how many fights Mr. Majestic truly lost(without being powered down,or
or distracted by other characters if he had problems with very weak chracters to overcome).
7.QESTIONS FOR ALL:Going by fights,Supreme should at least BEAT Mr. Majestic(the most powerful showings INSIDE FIGHTS)
Going by feats,Supreme loses against Mr. Majestic,BUT THESE FEATS WEREN'T USED INSIDE THE FIGHTS-so you have to different sets of powers:
Almost always,it seems like the writers have two different sets of powers for characters.
POWERS THAT CHARACTERS USE FOR FEATS AND POWERS THAT CHARACTERS USE INSIDE THE FIGHTS-powers that CHARACTERS use in fights should be counted,and those feats that are made outside of the fight shouldn't.
8.Also,very important note,please,read:Here is the example of Marvel's Thor:
Thor has lots of crazy feats like using mjolnir to absorb the energy of a null-bomb, a weapon powerful enough to destroy a huge chunk of the galaxy. Or when he used Mjolnir to generate enough energy to re-ignite a star. But yet we never really see him using that scale of energy manipulation in his fights-THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY SUPREME WOULD BEAT MISTER MAJESTIC.
9.Mr. Majestic-THE SOLAR SYSTEM MOVER has never used this kind of power inside the fights with other characters-inside the fights,Mr. Majestic(a solar system mover version),INSIDE THE FIGHTS didn't have any feats that surpass Liefeld's Supreme Liefeld's original Supreme would beat him.
What do you think,does this,in your opinion,have any sense at all?
10.Here another reasons,why I think Liefeld's original Supreme should beat Mr. Majestic(a solar system mover version)-I copied Rehzon's post from comicbattleboards.com:
"Supreme beat Thor at various tasks and even in 3 diffrent fights...
Supreme met Thor during the second world world, thor belived the allies wre evil and the nazis were good... Supreme won that one.
Supreme met thor in the mid 90's after his return to earth, thor wanted revenge for his defeat, Supreme beat him fairly easily and took his hmmer as a trophy/depowering of thor.
His fight with Quantum (image's Magneto)caused him to SLOWLY LOSE his powers,and took away his vision powers.
Supreme lost his powers, and found that Thor's hammer gave him some measure of superhuman ability... he could fly,had limited invulnerability/super strength and could summon storms and lightning...
And tha's why he was able to make Pitt bleed with purely with his fists,as well as stalemating Pitt,to the end.
Thor wanted the hammer back, Odin and the asgardians got involved, Supreme basicly had to go through the whole beta ray bill story arch from thor! tests and a fight... Supreme ends up with a copy of the hammer? or the original...
The bottom line here is that Thor of image was beaten easily by Supreme, he was not as strong, fast, or durable as Supreme.
Liefeld's Supreme had been through way more hell and back,
and was ruthless enough to find away to kill or beat anyone."
11.VERY IMPORTANT,PLEASE READ:
In at least his first 6 showings Liefeld's Supreme didn't need to go find or get the objects, energy weaknesses of his opponents his body simply generated the necessary weakness as in his first showing against Khrome aboard the clones ship, first breaking the forcefield then adapting the dimensional warping (not referring to the end battle with Khrome). Can he generate green K or Red sun energies etc. is the question? And using Moore's super genius version makes it all the more potent and likely."
Any other opinions?
Thanks for your opinions!
Big thanks to everybody!
An poster named "X" posted this long ago on superherohype boards,but he didn't post any scans of the battle or give any issue where the fight happened.
3.MAUL FOUGHT MR. MAJESTIC-A SOLAR SYSTEM VERSION in that fight,RIGHT(if he fought against Mr. Majestic at all)?
4.Wasn't Mr. Majestic HOLDING BACK in that fight with Maul and actually only tested Maul's strength-WHAT DO YOU THINK?
(Mr. Majestic's quotes:The harder I hit him,the bigger he gets!"-I think this should give us a clue that Mr. Majestic DIDN'T WANT TO HURT MAUL AND WAS ACTUALLY TESTING HIM,according to these words)
5.Mr. Majestic's varied appearances also show a lot of inconsistency in his power and durability levels. In some appearances he can move entire planets, but in others he struggles to overcome opponents with minor superstrength. Sometimes his eyebeams are ineffective, and other times they are unstoppable. As of late, his levels have stabilized to around Superman-level abilites.
6.I also don't understand,why some people say Mr. Majestic's only true loss was against Crusade-what about the problems with characters who have a minor super-strength(like Hellspont)?
So how many fights Mr. Majestic truly lost(without being powered down,or
or distracted by other characters if he had problems with very weak chracters to overcome).
7.QESTIONS FOR ALL:Going by fights,Supreme should at least BEAT Mr. Majestic(the most powerful showings INSIDE FIGHTS)
Going by feats,Supreme loses against Mr. Majestic,BUT THESE FEATS WEREN'T USED INSIDE THE FIGHTS-so you have to different sets of powers:
Almost always,it seems like the writers have two different sets of powers for characters.
POWERS THAT CHARACTERS USE FOR FEATS AND POWERS THAT CHARACTERS USE INSIDE THE FIGHTS-powers that CHARACTERS use in fights should be counted,and those feats that are made outside of the fight shouldn't.
8.Also,very important note,please,read:Here is the example of Marvel's Thor:
Thor has lots of crazy feats like using mjolnir to absorb the energy of a null-bomb, a weapon powerful enough to destroy a huge chunk of the galaxy. Or when he used Mjolnir to generate enough energy to re-ignite a star. But yet we never really see him using that scale of energy manipulation in his fights-THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY SUPREME WOULD BEAT MISTER MAJESTIC.
9.Mr. Majestic-THE SOLAR SYSTEM MOVER has never used this kind of power inside the fights with other characters-inside the fights,Mr. Majestic(a solar system mover version),INSIDE THE FIGHTS didn't have any feats that surpass Liefeld's Supreme Liefeld's original Supreme would beat him.
What do you think,does this,in your opinion,have any sense at all?
10.Here another reasons,why I think Liefeld's original Supreme should beat Mr. Majestic(a solar system mover version)-I copied Rehzon's post from comicbattleboards.com:
"Supreme beat Thor at various tasks and even in 3 diffrent fights...
Supreme met Thor during the second world world, thor belived the allies wre evil and the nazis were good... Supreme won that one.
Supreme met thor in the mid 90's after his return to earth, thor wanted revenge for his defeat, Supreme beat him fairly easily and took his hmmer as a trophy/depowering of thor.
His fight with Quantum (image's Magneto)caused him to SLOWLY LOSE his powers,and took away his vision powers.
Supreme lost his powers, and found that Thor's hammer gave him some measure of superhuman ability... he could fly,had limited invulnerability/super strength and could summon storms and lightning...
And tha's why he was able to make Pitt bleed with purely with his fists,as well as stalemating Pitt,to the end.
Thor wanted the hammer back, Odin and the asgardians got involved, Supreme basicly had to go through the whole beta ray bill story arch from thor! tests and a fight... Supreme ends up with a copy of the hammer? or the original...
The bottom line here is that Thor of image was beaten easily by Supreme, he was not as strong, fast, or durable as Supreme.
Liefeld's Supreme had been through way more hell and back,
and was ruthless enough to find away to kill or beat anyone."
11.VERY IMPORTANT,PLEASE READ:
In at least his first 6 showings Liefeld's Supreme didn't need to go find or get the objects, energy weaknesses of his opponents his body simply generated the necessary weakness as in his first showing against Khrome aboard the clones ship, first breaking the forcefield then adapting the dimensional warping (not referring to the end battle with Khrome). Can he generate green K or Red sun energies etc. is the question? And using Moore's super genius version makes it all the more potent and likely."
Any other opinions?
Thanks for your opinions!
Big thanks to everybody!