Are you worthy?

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tru-marvell
Just wondering, who in all comicdom is worthy to lift Thor's hammer?

I know there's been Beta Ray Bill and Cap. Then perhaps Hulk through pure brute strength. But who else could or should be worthy?

Wonderwomen
Balder the brave
Black Panther
Superman
Hercules
Silver Surfer

Just to name a few canidates. If not these, then what qualifies as worthyness?
Who else should be added?

Broly92
Everyone above Odin in power

tru-marvell
Okay this is not a question of power (I added the Hulk just because) but a question of character. I don't think Thanos would have a chance whereas Mephistoe was able to toy with it.

Grimm22
Power has nothing to do with it no expression

Nor could anyone else who isnt worthy

Who is worthy...

Cap
Beta Ray Bill
Black Panther
Hal Jordon
Superman
Wonder Woman
Thing
Darkseid
Dr. Doom
ect...

However most recently it seems that only Thor can pick it up erm

tru-marvell
You added Dr. Doom and Darkseid to a list of worthy ppl no blink

And imo Thing wouldn't qualify. What about Strange?

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Grimm22
Power has nothing to do with it no expression

Nor could anyone else who isnt worthy

Who is worthy...

Cap
Beta Ray Bill
Black Panther
Hal Jordon
Superman
Wonder Woman
Thing
Darkseid
Dr. Doom
ect...

However most recently it seems that only Thor can pick it up erm
dr doom couldn't lift the hammer no expression

Ultraman Baltan
There are a good bit of Ultramen worthy enough to hold Thor's mighty hammer.

Ultraman
Ultraman Zoffy(he's taken so much punishment, yet STILL goes)
Ultraseven(original)
Ultraman Jack
Ultraman Ace
Ultraman Father(pretty much TV's Odin)
Ultraman Leo
Ultraman King(one of the most powerful and rightious heros ever)
Ultraman 80
Yullian(the new heir of the Nebula M78)
Ultraman Tiga
Ultraman Gaia
Ultraman Nexus/Noa
Ultraman(The Next)
Ultraman Max
Ultraman Mebius(he'll grow into earth's greatest hero)
Ultraman Hikari(a true warrior at heart)

I'm not sure of the other Ultras. Taro may have too much hatred in him, don't know enough about Astra, Ultraman Jonias is too one sided for the better of good and not lives, never saw USA, never saw Great, Powered was just...there, Dyna was way too whiny, Agul had WAY too much hatred and violence in him, don't know enough about Cosmos, and never saw Justice.

Ultraman Baltan
Oh, and Doom's lift the hammer before.

Ultraman Baltan
Spiderman should be able to lift it as well.

Dinalfos
Originally posted by Grimm22
Power has nothing to do with it no expression

Nor could anyone else who isnt worthy

Who is worthy...

Cap
Beta Ray Bill
Black Panther
Hal Jordon
Superman
Wonder Woman
Thing
Darkseid
Dr. Doom
ect...

However most recently it seems that only Thor can pick it up erm

Yeah right, Thing laughing flex shutup

tru-marvell
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Oh, and Doom's lift the hammer before. eek!

would hate to have seen that...

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Yeah right, Thing laughing flex shutup
thumb up

Grimm22
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Yeah right, Thing laughing flex shutup

Its not about strength no expression

Considering all of the things Ben has done, im positive he is more than worthy to lift Mjolner

Grimm22
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
dr doom couldn't lift the hammer no expression

Because of some weird Plot Device no expression

However Doom is definitly worthy enough to lift it.

tru-marvell
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
There are a good bit of Ultramen worthy enough to hold Thor's mighty hammer.

Ultraman
Ultraman Zoffy(he's taken so much punishment, yet STILL goes)
Ultraseven(original)
Ultraman Jack
Ultraman Ace
Ultraman Father(pretty much TV's Odin)
Ultraman Leo
Ultraman King(one of the most powerful and rightious heros ever)
Ultraman 80
Yullian(the new heir of the Nebula M78)
Ultraman Tiga
Ultraman Gaia
Ultraman Nexus/Noa
Ultraman(The Next)
Ultraman Max
Ultraman Mebius(he'll grow into earth's greatest hero)
Ultraman Hikari(a true warrior at heart)

I'm not sure of the other Ultras. Taro may have too much hatred in him, don't know enough about Astra, Ultraman Jonias is too one sided for the better of good and not lives, never saw USA, never saw Great, Powered was just...there, Dyna was way too whiny, Agul had WAY too much hatred and violence in him, don't know enough about Cosmos, and never saw Justice.

I could be wrong here, but I take it you like the Ultras?

Dinalfos
Originally posted by Grimm22
Its not about strength no expression

Considering all of the things Ben has done, im positive he is more than worthy to lift Mjolner

Ofcourse it's not about strength. I know that roll eyes (sarcastic)

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Grimm22
Because of some weird Plot Device no expression

However Doom is definitly worthy enough to lift it.
He could also you the Heart Of The Universe

Grimm22
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Ofcourse it's not about strength. I know that roll eyes (sarcastic)

Well then why would you say Ben couldnt lift it?!? What the f**k?

Heck im pretty sure even Thor has agknowledged it once erm

Grimm22
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
He could also you the Heart Of The Universe

Huh? confused

tru-marvell
Originally posted by Grimm22
Its not about strength no expression

Considering all of the things Ben has done, im positive he is more than worthy to lift Mjolner

O.k. I can concede on Thing...but DOOM!
Please to elaborate

Sam Z
Deadpool...

Grimm22
Originally posted by tru-marvell
O.k. I can concede on Thing...but DOOM!
Please to elaborate

Doom is evil, however that dosent mean he isnt worthy.

Same thing with guys like Darkseid.

tru-marvell
Soooo what exactly does it mean to be "worthy" if evil ppl qualify?

Dinkus Mayhem
Originally posted by tru-marvell
Soooo what exactly does it mean to be "worthy" if evil ppl qualify?

Seconded. confused

Grimm22
Originally posted by tru-marvell
Soooo what exactly does it mean to be "worthy" if evil ppl qualify?

Its really hard to explain erm

SpunkySmurph
1. Aunt May
2. Alfred
3. ME!

P.S. And I'm pretty sure Bats has a spare one somewhere on his belt...

lando005
Originally posted by Grimm22
Doom is evil, however that dosent mean he isnt worthy.

Same thing with guys like Darkseid.
doom and darkseid are not worthy to lift the hammer

Tassadar
To lift the hammer, one must have a mindset similiar to that of a true Asgardian. One must be willing to utterly destroy any evil that threatens Asgard or Midgard, but willing to ignore the evils of men, such as thieves, because such things are beneath them. They must also be a true warrior, willing to fight, even if they have no hope of winning. No villain could wield it, nor could Superman or Thing, because they do not have a compatible mindset. Wonder Woman is iffy, but possibly could lift the hammer.

IronDave
I thought superman had lifted it...I never read a comic in which it happened, but I see a picture with him holding thors hammer and caps sheild kind of a lot of this forum.

Silent Master
Superman lifted it once in JLA/Avengers#4, however right after that he failed to lift it and Thor explained he was only allowed to lift it the first time because Odin put an emergancey clause in.

So, Superman is not worthy.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Tassadar
To lift the hammer, one must have a mindset similiar to that of a true Asgardian. One must be willing to utterly destroy any evil that threatens Asgard or Midgard, but willing to ignore the evils of men, such as thieves, because such things are beneath them. They must also be a true warrior, willing to fight, even if they have no hope of winning. No villain could wield it, nor could Superman or Thing, because they do not have a compatible mindset. Wonder Woman is iffy, but possibly could lift the hammer.

Cap has lifted it no expression

So dont give me this hogwash about that

Tassadar
Originally posted by Grimm22
Cap has lifted it no expression

So dont give me this hogwash about that

Because Cap meets those requirements.

Innerhype
I thought if your not worthy you can't lift it, like some all powerful rule of the universe, no matter how strong you are.

JOE NUNEZ
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Spiderman should be able to lift it as well. No he cant he tried once , but could not lift it.

Lord S
Originally posted by Tassadar
Wonder Woman is iffy, but possibly could lift the hammer. Wonder Woman was able to lift it in 'Marvel vs. DC'.

Magneto has controlled it with his power, stopping it in mid-air...but I'm not sure his powers, (err ex-powers), would be able to lift it off the ground, cause there's no way in hell he's doing it with his hands.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Tassadar
Because Cap meets those requirements.

Cap wanted to protect Asgard?!? What the f**k?

Ultraman Baltan
Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
No he cant he tried once , but could not lift it.

But he's so worthy!

JOE NUNEZ
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
But he's so worthy! Agreed.

ExtraMision5555
why is it a plot device that doom couldent lift it? i thought it made sense

SpunkySmurph
I'm not sure Spidey would enter a battle with no chance of winning- but I'm sure I'll be told how wrong I am.

As for Magneto- I actually think it's almost plausible that he could lift it. He would defend Asgard or Midgard, but probably for different motives. He could enter a seemeingly hopeless battle. And he doesn't view HIMSELF as a villain. But, I'm just pondering, as I truly have no idea

Ultraman Baltan
Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
Agreed.

Exactly. Spidey has put his life on the line to save those he hates most! HATES! I remember in one issue where Spidey is on the urge of death, Electro(at super-duper power) asks Spiderman why he is fighting fo valiantly against a being such as himself just to save people who hate him and wish him dead. The reply? Because he has the power to do so, and with great power comes great responsibility.

lft4ded
I thought Thing recently failed to lift it in FF before DB took it in one of the subsequent issues?

He said something like he was curious?

ExtraMision5555
yeah, im pertty sure thing recently attempted it, and couldent lift it* i know what comic your talking about
like the ff issue before the last one, 2 issues ago?

bigbran
Originally posted by Grimm22
Power has nothing to do with it no expression

Nor could anyone else who isnt worthy

Who is worthy...

Cap
Beta Ray Bill
Black Panther
Hal Jordon
Superman
Wonder Woman
Thing
Darkseid
Dr. Doom
ect...

However most recently it seems that only Thor can pick it up erm Superman?
Thing?
Darkseid?
Doom?
Jordan?(he might be able to do it, but judging by his past, very doubtful)Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
There are a good bit of Ultramen worthy enough to hold Thor's mighty hammer.

Ultraman
Ultraman Zoffy(he's taken so much punishment, yet STILL goes)
Ultraseven(original)
Ultraman Jack
Ultraman Ace
Ultraman Father(pretty much TV's Odin)
Ultraman Leo
Ultraman King(one of the most powerful and rightious heros ever)
Ultraman 80
Yullian(the new heir of the Nebula M78)
Ultraman Tiga
Ultraman Gaia
Ultraman Nexus/Noa
Ultraman(The Next)
Ultraman Max
Ultraman Mebius(he'll grow into earth's greatest hero)
Ultraman Hikari(a true warrior at heart)

I'm not sure of the other Ultras. Taro may have too much hatred in him, don't know enough about Astra, Ultraman Jonias is too one sided for the better of good and not lives, never saw USA, never saw Great, Powered was just...there, Dyna was way too whiny, Agul had WAY too much hatred and violence in him, don't know enough about Cosmos, and never saw Justice. How do you know this?

Dinkus Mayhem
"No unworthy living being can lift the hammer from the ground.

People who have lifted it are:

Mainstream (Earth 616)

~Odin
~Captain America
~Beta Ray Bill
~Buri (alias Tiwaz, Thor's paternal great-grandfather)
~Red Norvell (with the aid of gauntlets)
~Eric Masterson (both before and after merging with Thor)

Other

~Superman in Avengers/JLA #4 (2003), but a few pages later he cannot lift it. Explanation was given by Thor that someone might wield Mjolnir shortly if the situation calls for it to happen.
~Wonder Woman in Marvel vs. DC #3 (1996)
~Magni (son of Thor in "Thor, Lord of Earth" future)
~Woden (son of Thor in the Guardians of the Galaxy future)
~Dargo Ktor ("Once and Future Thor" future)
~Ultimate Hulk (in the Ultimate Avengers Movie), Although this version of the hammer has been implied to not be of mystic origins. "

I got that on Wiki: Mjolnir , not sure how accurate it is though.

The only requirement that seems to be followed, is that the person must be a warrior of noble heart and honor. Other than that there is no real pattern I can see, and in the case of Ultimate Hulk it doesn't seem to follow that pattern.

I would be willing to bet that Orion is possibly worthy. True warrior spirit, honorable for sure. In my opinion he could wield the hammer.

Black Panther would most likely be able to lift the hammer as well, he is one of the most honorable and warrior-like characters in marvel and would seem to easily fit the criteria.

Silent Master
If all it took was being honorable and warrior-like(or having a warrior-spirit) then almost every Asgardian and likely most normal superheroes would be able to lift it.

tru-marvell
Originally posted by Silent Master
If all it took was being honorable and warrior-like(or having a warrior-spirit) then almost every Asgardian and likely most normal superheroes would be able to lift it.

Good point, which why I added Balder to the first list of possibles.
I think gods like Fandal and Hogrim disqualify because they harbor some character weakness not present in Thor. Which would mean the qualities are very subtle and precise. So ppl like Hawkeye, ironman although warriors willing to make major sacrifices are still lacking in some unknown quantity.

Tassadar
Originally posted by Grimm22
Cap wanted to protect Asgard?!? What the f**k?

No, Midgard. He would want to protect Asgard if he could do anything about it.

complexbrother
I belive the criteria to be able to weild the hammer is to be ... honerable, brave, loyal, compassionate, fierce, honest, trustworthy, strength of chareter, and with no trace of evil lurking around.

the superheros who fit that description are :

Captian Marvel (Shazam)
Captian America
Quasar
Black Bolt
Bushido (teen titans)
Nightwing
Spider-Man

lando005
there has to be more to it than just honor

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