Who can Survive Black Bolts Scream?

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ExtraMision5555
Who out of these can remain conscious or even alive after a scream from black bolt?


Batman

Martian Manhunter

Lobo

Wonder Woman

Nova

Drax

Silver Surfer

Rune King Thor

Onslaught

8th Day Juggernaut

Firelord

Mxy

Thanos

Superman

Hulk

Apocalypse

Magneto

Galactus

Spectre

Beta Ray Bill

Warrior Madness Thor

Iron Man (Exreemis)

Darkseid

Faceman
Batman? blink

H. S. 6
Honestly, I don't think very many would. erm

Scarlet315
galactus probably could

Inhuman
batman with prep. batman ear plugs shifty

bigbran
Wolverine would stand in the middle of it, and say "is that all you got bud?"
Blackbolt would all be like " y...ye...yes."
And then Wolverine would be all up in his grill after that, " Your head"
Then Blacky would be like, " ahhhh"

Mindship
I recently read where BB's scream is compared to a ten-megaton nuke. Any entity which can survive that can survive the scream.

H. S. 6
Originally posted by Mindship
I recently read where BB's scream is compared to a ten-megaton nuke. Any entity which can survive that can survive the scream.

Where did you read this?

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Where did you read this?
THats what it says on wikipedia, but ide say thats a little inaccurate. Ide put Bb's scream way beyond 10 megatons

juggernaut66666
wikipedia says that J2 is class 1,000,000 no expression

Inhuman
Originally posted by bigbran
Wolverine would stand in the middle of it, and say "is that all you got bud?"
Blackbolt would all be like " y...ye...yes."
And then Wolverine would be all up in his grill after that, " Your head"
Then Blacky would be like, " ahhhh"

I think he meant people below eternity level.

Scarlet315
wikipedia also has this to say about black bolt.
"...a wave of transformative energy, destroying everything that it touches."

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Inhuman
I think he meant people below eternity level.


laughing laughing laughing

Mindship
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
THats what it says on wikipedia, but ide say thats a little inaccurate. Ide put Bb's scream way beyond 10 megatons

Actually, I would tend to agree.
Early Lee/Kirby bios have said that his scream can shatter a mountain, as it did way back in the early FF days. I would think that to blow up a mountain, you would need something like 100-500 megatons. Hell, let's even go for the Big 1000 (1 gigaton).

Still, a gigaton should be nothing for a cosmic entity, especially ones which can have major effects on stars (which put out gigatons' worth of power by the second for billions of years).

This, of course, brings me to ask: where does Black Bolt get this degree of power from? I mean, a gigaton = 4.2 x 10^18 watts, about one million times the power the entire USA uses over one year.

Hey, comics... cool

Genis101
Batman - no

Martian Manhunter - no

Lobo - maybe, but either way he would regenerate

Wonder Woman - no

Nova - no

Drax - bulky drax probly could, current drax cant

Silver Surfer - no

Rune King Thor - yes

Onslaught - no

8th Day Juggernaut - yes

Firelord - no

Mxy - yes

Thanos - yes

Superman - no

Hulk - no

Apocalypse - non jobbing yes, with jobbing no

Magneto - no

Galactus - yes

Spectre - maybe

Beta Ray Bill - no

Warrior Madness Thor - maybe

Iron Man (Exreemis) - no

Darkseid - current no, precrisis yes

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Mindship
Actually, I would tend to agree.
Early Lee/Kirby bios have said that his scream can shatter a mountain, as it did way back in the early FF days. I would think that to blow up a mountain, you would need something like 100-500 megatons. Hell, let's even go for the Big 1000 (1 gigaton).

Still, a gigaton should be nothing for a cosmic entity, especially ones which can have major effects on stars (which put out gigatons' worth of power by the second for billions of years).

This, of course, brings me to ask: where does Black Bolt get this degree of power from? I mean, a gigaton = 4.2 x 10^18 watts, about one million times the power the entire USA uses over one year.

Hey, comics... cool

http://static.flickr.com/43/124851437_5b411db57e_m.jpg


well, i undrestood some of it
lol

Grimm22
Out of that list, these guys do..

Lobo

Rune King Thor

8th Day Juggernaut

Firelord

Mxy

Thanos

Galactus

Spectre

Darkseid

manjaro
it would take someone who is immune to matter manipulation to the highest degree possible. or who is so invulnerable thier durability defies logic, cuz the "transformative energy" just rips shit apart(man i went over this in disgusting detail in another thread about electrons and atomsbig grin)

nobody below thanos/surfer/superman/lobo/hulk

trolly_crouchjr
Hulk cant survive it...

H. S. 6
Originally posted by manjaro
it would take someone who is immune to matter manipulation to the highest degree possible. or who is so invulnerable thier durability defies logic, cuz the "transformative energy" just rips shit apart(man i went over this in disgusting detail in another thread about electrons and atomsbig grin)

nobody below thanos/surfer/superman/lobo/hulk

I doubt Supes and Hulk are surviving it.

ExtraMision5555
Yeah i dont htink hulk can, and i dont think suipes can either

Mindship
Surfer, Superman and WM Thor...I think they could survive it but might be knocked for a loop by it.

lando005
surfer
rkt
8dj
and galatus

manjaro
well hulk was a bit of a stretch but superman is definately surviving it.... and i do mean definatley. this is a guy who regularly takes short vacations in the sun, and the energy the sun produces is equivalent to 1 billion 10 megaton bombs going off every single second...(yes i looked it up) cool

so characters who make it a habit of flying thru the hearts of stars they're ok....now you gotta be careful we're talking being able to walk away from it..just cuz i think these guys can survive it that doesnt mean that they're just straight up impervious....they'll suffer some very grave injuries, but they'll live big grin

hawkwind
Originally posted by bigbran
Wolverine would stand in the middle of it, and say "is that all you got bud?"
Blackbolt would all be like " y...ye...yes."
And then Wolverine would be all up in his grill after that, " Your head"
Then Blacky would be like, " ahhhh"
wolverine would die. wolverine stands no chance.

Jesse7
I agree with big bran, wolves would shrug it off like it was a fire cracker, then Wolves would show bb what a real scream is; wolves would then KO BB via primal rage scream done by Wolves.

Accel
Originally posted by trolly_crouchjr
Hulk cant survive it...
Savage could. He's taken a sonic attack that destroyed a cosmos without too much trouble.

Current one dies horribly though.

General Kon-El
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
wikipedia says that J2 is class 1,000,000 no expression not anymore

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by manjaro
well hulk was a bit of a stretch but superman is definately surviving it.... and i do mean definatley. this is a guy who regularly takes short vacations in the sun, and the energy the sun produces is equivalent to 1 billion 10 megaton bombs going off every single second...(yes i looked it up) cool

so characters who make it a habit of flying thru the hearts of stars they're ok....now you gotta be careful we're talking being able to walk away from it..just cuz i think these guys can survive it that doesnt mean that they're just straight up impervious....they'll suffer some very grave injuries, but they'll live big grin

Right, but thats different, the sun recharges superman if im not mistaken, so its not something thats bad for him, whereas black bolts scream would be

if im not mistaken

Darth Vegas
Juggernaut
Galactus

manjaro
yes it recharges him but that doesnt take away from the fact that thier is a massive explosions..the way i figure he's just actually durable enuff to withsrand that concuaaive force

UniOmni
Superman would survive it.

Galactus as well, and any true cosmic like Surfer should have as well.

Superman would take it and not blink, due to the nature of his forcefield.
Now, Superman taking it on the skin??
Mere atoms, as is everyone else below true cosmic if comics were logical.
Rune King Thor falls under the mere atom list.

Juggernaut doesn't blink though.

Spectre doesn't even register the attempt, same as Galactus.

BB screaming, is supposed to tear the electrons off the atoms or some such.
Durability shouldn't prevent that, since even the most durable bricks have an atomic structure somewhere in their makeup.

I say Surfer should survive, due to the fact that he's PC given life.
I don't know if he even has electrons to be scrambled.

Same for Galan and Spectre.

Juggernaut has that nifty forcefield going for him, and he's pure t magic, and in comics, magic>>>>>science.

Only those with vaguely explained but powerful forcefields should survive. Those without, should implode.

MightyEInherjar
I'm pretty sure Onslaught could take it...

Horrificus
Batman- yes, because we would find out he somehow infected BB with a form of strep throat that weakens the screams power.
Martian Manhunter- no, because hs is a big green 'mo.
Lobo- no
Wonder Woman- no
Nova- no
Drax- only if he has the power gem.
Silver Surfer- easily
Rune King Thor- before he was RKT, he could survive nuke level blasts.
Onslaught- no. BB's scream is actually psionic in nature. I think this would screw with the whole Xavier-powered part of the mix.
8th Day Juggernaut- yes. he can eat burgers while it happens.
Firelord- he can take as much as most of the other heralds. no.
Mxy- it's nothing to him.
Thanos- again, yes.
Superman- no.
Hulk- no. i dont want to hear any crap about him healing, and coming back, or lifting a big gay mountain. he gets blasted, and he is obliterated and dies. what happens after that is not an issue.
Apocalypse- yes
Magneto- only if he has time to errect some kind of shield with 100ft of metal between them..
Galactus- it is nothing to him.
Spectre- same.
Beta Ray Bill- same as Thor.
Warrior Madness Thor- yup.
Iron Man (Exreemis)- nope
Darkseid- yup

D-Block
Spectre and Galactus would laugh

breeze85
Batman - dead
Martian Manhunter - dead
Lobo - dead, perhaps he would regenerate
Wonder Woman - dead
Nova - dead
Drax - with the power gem, yes
Silver Surfer - no problem
Rune King Thor - laughing
Onslaught - I think think he would survive without much problems
8th Day Juggernaut - laughing
Firelord - dead
Mxy - laughing
Thanos - he would take it
Superman - maybe
Hulk - dead
Apocalypse - maybe
Magneto - dead
Galactus - laughing
Spectre - LOL. Yet someone is saying he 'maybe' survives...
Beta Ray Bill - maybe
Warrior Madness Thor - very likely
Iron Man (Extremis) - I don't think so
Darkseid - yes

Richv1
Batman no

Martian Manhunter no

Lobo yes

Wonder Woman no

Nova no

Drax no

Silver Surfer yes

Rune King Thor no

Onslaught yes

8th Day Juggernaut no

Firelord no

Mxy yes

Thanos yes

Superman yes

Hulk no

Apocalypse no

Magneto no

Galactus yes

Spectre yes

Beta Ray Bill no

Warrior Madness Thor no

Iron Man (Exreemis) no

Darkseid yes

Thanos_1971
Originally posted by Faceman
Batman? blink

Batman,Pleeeaaassseeeee laughing

Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by D-Block
Spectre and Galactus would laugh
Galactus would laugh ? Do you really think so ? I mean, really really think so ?

Galactus would do a lot of things, but laughing wouldn't be one of them.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Galactus would laugh ? Do you really think so ? I mean, really really think so ?

Galactus would do a lot of things, but laughing wouldn't be one of them. laughing laughing laughing laughing





switching subjects
And im perrtttty sure Superman would feel a scream from black bolt, if not KO from it,

marvelprince
Not sure if Superman will be taken out, but he'll definitely feel it (he still has an atomic structure and all that).

No one else other than, Lobo (he'll be taken out but he'll get back up), Galactus, Spectre, Surfer (not sure bout his physiology), Mxy (isn't he more magic based if so he survives), Juggernaut, Rune King Thor (magical)

manorastroman
a gigaton is a little short. blackbolt has demolished barriers that several skrull-nukes couldn't even scratch. skrull nukes are probably exponentially more powerful than even the strongest modern nukes.

D-Block
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Galactus would laugh ? Do you really think so ? I mean, really really think so ?

Galactus would do a lot of things, but laughing wouldn't be one of them.

You think his scream would hurt a full powered Galactus.

steverules
Aunt May shifty

Soleran
Sentry can

Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by D-Block
You think his scream would hurt a full powered Galactus.
So now it's suddenly the famous "full powered Galactus" (whatever that may be).

Since we very very very rarely see a full powered Galactus, and since the thread starter didn't specify, I refer to the normal "uh oh there comes that dr. Strange, better get out of here" Galactus.

I have no idea how much a scream of Blackbolt will damage Galactus. But Galactus will be hurt, and not just a little bit.

He is far from being destructible. I think Juggernaut is even more durable than Galactus.

nvrbeenwthagirl
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Batman =NO

Martian Manhunter=Yes( Phase shift)

Lobo=Yes

Wonder Woman=Yes(Force Shield)

Nova=Yes

Drax=Yes

Silver Surfer=Yes

Rune King Thor=Easily

Onslaught=Yes

8th Day Juggernaut=Yes

Firelord=Yes

Mxy=Easily

Thanos=Easily

Superman=Yes

Hulk=Yes( Renerate as soon as it's over)

Apocalypse=No

Magneto=No

Galactus=Easily

Spectre=What? is there any question?

Beta Ray Bill=Yes

Warrior Madness Thor=Yes

Iron Man (Exreemis)=NO

Darkseid=Easily

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl


MM? His atoms still exist when they phaze shift dont they? hes not, "gone"

?any mm "specialist" that can clear that up?

Horrificus
I don't know why all the craziness about BB.
His scream is as strong as a nuke. End of story.
No discussion about the differences between our nikes and skrull nukes.
It is as strong as a nuke.
Now, who can survive, or has survive a nuke?
That is all there is to it.
He is a very cool character, but you can't make him a "cosmic", just because you like him.
He is a powerful earth-bound character. That's all.

manjaro
"A" nuke is diff from a "10 megaton nuke", the latter is which a single scream is the equivalent of.. the reason a big deal needs to be made of it is becuz there is no recoil time to the usage of his scream. its not like he can yell and then have to recharge b4 he can yell again..its quite the opposite. for example, if he were to to get childish and say LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!! on top of his lungs each individual "LA" would be the equivalent of a 10 megaton nuke..thats what the big deal is. and no one below true cosmic or ridicoulsy over powered and invulnerable can walk away unscathed

D-Block
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
So now it's suddenly the famous "full powered Galactus" (whatever that may be).

Since we very very very rarely see a full powered Galactus, and since the thread starter didn't specify, I refer to the normal "uh oh there comes that dr. Strange, better get out of here" Galactus.

I have no idea how much a scream of Blackbolt will damage Galactus. But Galactus will be hurt, and not just a little bit.

He is far from being destructible. I think Juggernaut is even more durable than Galactus.

It didn't say that it wasn't

Soleran
Originally posted by manjaro
"A" nuke is diff from a "10 megaton nuke", the latter is which a single scream is the equivalent of.. the reason a big deal needs to be made of it is becuz there is no recoil time to the usage of his scream. its not like he can yell and then have to recharge b4 he can yell again..its quite the opposite. for example, if he were to to get childish and say LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!! on top of his lungs each individual "LA" would be the equivalent of a 10 megaton nuke..thats what the big deal is. and no one below true cosmic or ridicoulsy over powered and invulnerable can walk away unscathed



Sentry can!

Horrificus
ALl I know is what Marvel says. I am not going to get into how many megatons his scream could create.
It still isn't as powerful as what a lot of these top tier guys and cosmics can do.
And, these guys toss there stuff at each other all the time.
He is very powerful. But, he is still below these guys.
I mean, somebody in here actually said that he could hurt Galactus.
In the name of all that's holy! That is just nutty.

manorastroman
he HAS scared away cosmics before. when the "galaxy collector" came to the milky way, blackbolt just stared him down. when blackbolt started to open his mouth, this being (called so because he harvested the energies of entire galaxies) turned tail.

i mean...wow.

Horrificus
Originally posted by manorastroman
he HAS scared away cosmics before. when the "galaxy collector" came to the milky way, blackbolt just stared him down. when blackbolt started to open his mouth, this being (called so because he harvested the energies of entire galaxies) turned tail.

i mean...wow.

I think he did that because he thought BB was giving him the "sexy eyes", and making his move.

And the Galaxy Collector was like, "Hey dude, I'm sorry, but I don't hang that way! Not that there's anything wrong with it."

Then, because he was strangely arroused, and confused, he fled in a panic of misplaced passions.

manorastroman
cosmic arousal...i see.

mighty adam
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Who out of these can remain conscious or even alive after a scream from black bolt?


Batman =no

Martian Manhunter =yes

Lobo =yes

Wonder Woman = yes will be koed

Nova = don't know much about her

Drax = koed

Silver Surfer =with easy

Rune King Thor =with easy

Onslaught =..... laughing why even ask

8th Day Juggernaut = with easy

Firelord =koed

Mxy =he wouldn't even feel it then he will come up with some stupid joke

Thanos =with easy

Superman =with easy

Hulk =if he is really piss with easy

Apocalypse =koed

Magneto =with easy

Galactus = its the big G it would be nothing to him

Spectre =with easy

Beta Ray Bill = yes will be koed

Warrior Madness Thor =yes

Iron Man (Exreemis) =koed

Darkseid =with easy no expression no expression no expression

mighty adam
Originally posted by Accel
Savage could. He's taken a sonic attack that destroyed a cosmos without too much trouble.

Current one dies horribly though. nope he will heal and who ever said supes couldn't take it is crazy

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by mighty adam
no expression no expression no expression

i didnt post that, though,
:/

Horrificus
Originally posted by manorastroman
cosmic arousal...i see.

As a matter of fact, I hope they DO NOT make BB into a cosmic character.
Marvel writers seem to be in a race to make every character into a God or Herald.
When they do this, they are throwing the real character background in the garbage.
They can't all be the Silver Surfer. And, if they were, that would be very boring.
For instance, the initial conflict between the Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer and Galactus, was super cool, because the FF was still, basically an earth-based group, going up against these truly COSMIC beings.
It was awesome. And, they only won through smarts and courage and help from another cosmic being.
I miss that.
Now, the writers take the easy way out. If their character is going up against a more powerful character, the writers just make thier character more powerful by rewriting it, or some other chessiness.
Terrible.

marvelprince
Originally posted by Horrificus
As a matter of fact, I hope they DO NOT make BB into a cosmic character.
Marvel writers seem to be in a race to make every character into a God or Herald.
When they do this, they are throwing the real character background in the garbage.
They can't all be the Silver Surfer. And, if they were, that would be very boring.
For instance, the initial conflict between the Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer and Galactus, was super cool, because the FF was still, basically an earth-based group, going up against these truly COSMIC beings.
It was awesome. And, they only won through smarts and courage and help from another cosmic being.
I miss that.
Now, the writers take the easy way out. If their character is going up against a more powerful character, the writers just make thier character more powerful by rewriting it, or some other chessiness.
Terrible.

Well for BB he's always been portrayed as the mega-strong and silent type. Him possessing this destructive of a power is not a rewrite

ExtraMision5555
BB is extremely well written and very consistant, i doubt they will turn him into a "cosmic" being, hes allerady raw

Rols
Originally posted by Horrificus
As a matter of fact, I hope they DO NOT make BB into a cosmic character.
Marvel writers seem to be in a race to make every character into a God or Herald.
When they do this, they are throwing the real character background in the garbage.
They can't all be the Silver Surfer. And, if they were, that would be very boring.
For instance, the initial conflict between the Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer and Galactus, was super cool, because the FF was still, basically an earth-based group, going up against these truly COSMIC beings.
It was awesome. And, they only won through smarts and courage and help from another cosmic being.
I miss that.
Now, the writers take the easy way out. If their character is going up against a more powerful character, the writers just make thier character more powerful by rewriting it, or some other chessiness.
Terrible.
Yeah i hear you man.. Take a look at the X-men series, I mean some of these Char. second mutation makes them close or even herald level. Well i really dont mind if its good writen but if all or most of em are going to be at that level well makes a boring read, but thats just me do some actually like it....

boriquaking55
BB is a CIS-inducing character. Everytime I see him scaring off cosmics I want to slap the writers for being ignorant

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by boriquaking55
BB is a CIS-inducing character. Everytime I see him scaring off cosmics I want to slap the writers for being ignorant

Wierd, i dont recall BB "scaring off" cosmics, at the minimum, not frequently

Horrificus
Originally posted by Rols
Yeah i hear you man.. Take a look at the X-men series, I mean some of these Char. second mutation makes them close or even herald level. Well i really dont mind if its good writen but if all or most of em are going to be at that level well makes a boring read, but thats just me do some actually like it....

Yeah, it is really terrible.

It comes down to the writers not being able to come up with any alternatives to problems, other than powering the characters up to overcome every obstacle.

It wasn't always like that.

Way back when Wolverine was still having a tough time with The Hand, it was still cool.
Damn, he almost died from a beating by Mariko's father, with a WOODEN SWORD!
Those were the days.

boriquaking55
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Wierd, i dont recall BB "scaring off" cosmics, at the minimum, not frequently

I just hope Marvel writers don't have the balls to start having him hold his own against heralds and skyfathers. But SMvsFL happened already, so Im sure it will.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by boriquaking55
I just hope Marvel writers don't have the balls to start having him hold his own against heralds and skyfathers. But SMvsFL happened already, so Im sure it will.

i dont think they will, well,


stranger things have happened
lol

Kid Kurdy
Originally posted by boriquaking55
I just hope Marvel writers don't have the balls to start having him hold his own against heralds and skyfathers. But SMvsFL happened already, so Im sure it will.
Most people who complain about that story, haven't read it... that's a fact.

Horrificus
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Most people who complain about that story, haven't read it... that's a fact.

I am sory "Mr. Kurdy".
I must disagree.

Sin I AM
BB is an awesome character, disciplined, powerful ( but not uber), he is a force to be reckoned with.

Mindship
Originally posted by Horrificus
As a matter of fact, I hope they DO NOT make BB into a cosmic character.
Marvel writers seem to be in a race to make every character into a God or Herald.
When they do this, they are throwing the real character background in the garbage.
They can't all be the Silver Surfer. And, if they were, that would be very boring.
For instance, the initial conflict between the Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer and Galactus, was super cool, because the FF was still, basically an earth-based group, going up against these truly COSMIC beings.
It was awesome. And, they only won through smarts and courage and help from another cosmic being.
I miss that.
Now, the writers take the easy way out. If their character is going up against a more powerful character, the writers just make thier character more powerful by rewriting it, or some other chessiness.
Terrible.
Well said.
Black Bolt being able to shatter a mountain with his voice is one thing. Being able to intimidate galaxy-draining cosmics is something else...and totally unnecessary with regard to the BB character.

ExtraMision5555
i think intimidate might be the wrong word

Rols
I think he was just annoyed, and didnt wanna bother squishing a bug..
Dont get me wrong BB is cool but that showing is full of pis..

DevilGoblin
Hulk ? no ?? it's obvious none of you read Marvel Comics:

incredible annual 1968 " a refuge divided"


Hulk beat all the inhumans and then fights Black Bolt
The hulk beats him hand to hand combat and BB admits hulk's physically superiority so he screams in hulk's face and the hulk gets unconsciuos (swooms ) for few seconds, then he raises as nothing has happened and keeps the fight (plus before the fight he was weakened by a gun-rays who has stolen his energy, so he was an hulk at 30-40% Before the fight he says he has pain to muscoles and he is tired,weak and without energies)

OWNED

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by DevilGoblin
Hulk ? no ?? it's obvious none of you read Marvel Comics:

incredible annual 1968 " a refuge divided"


Hulk beat all the inhumans and then fights Black Bolt
The hulk beats him hand to hand combat and BB admits hulk's physically superiority so he screams in hulk's face and the hulk gets unconsciuos (swooms ) for few seconds, then he raises as nothing has happened and keeps the fight (plus before the fight he was weakened by a gun-rays who has stolen his energy, so he was an hulk at 30-40% Before the fight he says he has pain to muscoles and he is tired,weak and without energies)

OWNED


Except BB has beaten hulk not once,


not twice


not thrice














but 4 times.

Mindship
Originally posted by Rols
I think he was just annoyed, and didnt wanna bother squishing a bug..
Dont get me wrong BB is cool but that showing is full of pis..

laughing out loud
I agree: BB is cool (numero fouro on my list). But Ol' Tuning-Fork Head is not cosmic caliber, nor should he be.

manorastroman
shrug. over the years is voice has just become more powerful and less used.

Horrificus
Yeah.
It makes him cooler by keeping him weaker than cosmics.
This way, even though the writers have to work to come up with a believable way for him to win against high-level guys, it makes it more interesting, and more of a nail-biter.
Just increasing his powers is stupid, and makes me feel stupid when I read a book that does it.
As far as the Hulk goes, maybe BB just has his number. Simple as that.
Like Iron Man and Fin Fang Foom. Captain Marvel and Thanos. Spidey and Rhino. Captain America, and just about everybody.

DevilGoblin
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Except BB has beaten hulk not once,


not twice


not thrice














but 4 times.


lies, as usual answer when someone says the truth laughing out loud

if you list 4 issues where BB beats the Hulk i leave the board, if you can't find them you leave the board

agreed or are you a liar ? laughing out loud

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by DevilGoblin
lies, as usual answer when someone says the truth laughing out loud

if you list 4 issues where BB beats the Hulk i leave the board, if you can't find them you leave the board

agreed or are you a liar ? laughing out loud

1
http://img131.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17752/loc24/dc084_hulki4.jpg
forcing immeasureable ammoutns of lightning to strike hulk, ultimately nullifying him.


2 http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1167/loc24/cd626_banner4.jpg
(this one he temporarily incapasitates (sp?) hulk)


3
http://img138.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-18887/loc24/81b39_hullk1.jpg
Removeing hulk from the battlefield via anus beating


4

And finally
http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1458/loc24/a8c39_vrshulk4.jpg
BB, after tradeing several blows with hulk (and manning through them) while simotainoulsy being hulk-slapped, whisperes in hulks face, ultimately nullifying him.








Hulk loses, everytime.

Horrificus
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
1
http://img131.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17752/loc24/dc084_hulki4.jpg
forcing immeasureable ammoutns of lightning to strike hulk, ultimately nullifying him.


2 http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1167/loc24/cd626_banner4.jpg
(this one he temporarily incapasitates (sp?) hulk)


3
http://img138.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-18887/loc24/81b39_hullk1.jpg
Removeing hulk from the battlefield via anus beating


4

And finally
http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1458/loc24/a8c39_vrshulk4.jpg
BB, after tradeing several blows with hulk (and manning through them) while simotainoulsy being hulk-slapped, whisperes in hulks face, ultimately nullifying him.



Hulk loses, everytime.

For some reason, no pics survived this ordeal. Is it me or you?
Because, they sound like something I really would love to see!

Jesse7
Well Black Bolts full scream has been shown in comics before, he screamed at a passing abstract like entity, I am not sure what level this entity was, multiversal or more or perhaps universal, but if you have seen the scans then you will know what I am speaking of.

Even though he didnt hurt it at all, the fact that he was able to gain its attention is the feat.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Horrificus
For some reason, no pics survived this ordeal. Is it me or you?
Because, they sound like something I really would love to see!


wierd

i can see them, can anyone else see them?

i hope its not just me that sees them lol
that happens ever so often

if not
heres the url in order of how i posted them
http://img131.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17752/loc24/dc084_hulki4.jpg

http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1167/loc24/cd626_banner4.jpg

http://img138.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-18887/loc24/81b39_hullk1.jpg

http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1458/loc24/a8c39_vrshulk4.jpg

Horrificus
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
wierd

i can see them, can anyone else see them?

i hope its not just me that sees them lol
that happens ever so often

if not
heres the url in order of how i posted them
http://img131.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17752/loc24/dc084_hulki4.jpg

http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1167/loc24/cd626_banner4.jpg

http://img138.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-18887/loc24/81b39_hullk1.jpg

http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1458/loc24/a8c39_vrshulk4.jpg

Excellent!
Thank you kind sir.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Horrificus
Excellent!
Thank you kind sir.

yu ar welkome smile smile

Mindship
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
http://img131.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17752/loc24/dc084_hulki4.jpg

http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1167/loc24/cd626_banner4.jpg

http://img138.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-18887/loc24/81b39_hullk1.jpg

http://img14.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1458/loc24/a8c39_vrshulk4.jpg

Damn. All I'm getting is The page cannot be found.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Mindship
Damn. All I'm getting is The page cannot be found.
hm
i wondr y its accin up

FOOM
I can't see them. Where the hell are they?

Rick/Genis
huc

Magee
Devil Goblin I hope you are true to your word and never come back. big grin

TricksterPriest
Lmao. Here's hoping.

Onto the list.

Batman: With prep, yes. Otherwise, nope.

Martian Manhunter: Dubious, probably no.

Lobo: Even if it KOs him, he's still getting back up. It's freaking Lobo. stick out tongue

Wonder Woman: I'd say yes, but she'll be in severe pain.

Nova: Probably yes. I don't see his scream as being a cosmic class weapon.

Drax: Depends on the version.

Silver Surfer: Easily yes.

Rune King Thor: You're kidding, right? Hell yes he survives.

Onslaught: No idea about the scream messing up his psionic energy, so I'll say yes for now.

8th Day Juggernaut: Nothing's hurting this mother****er. Yes.

Firelord: Yes, but he might be KOed. He is 2nd weakest of the heralds. Then again, he's doing alot better in annihilation.

Mxy: Come on, even Galactus couldn't touch this guy.

Thanos: Odin didn't put him down, what makes you think BB can?

Superman: It will hurt him, but he'll survive.

Hulk: No. And I don't want any shit from Devilgoblin on this one.

Apocalypse: Yes. AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS HOM, IT'S NOT CANON. And just to prove it, here's a scan of Apocalypse taking X-Factor, the Inhumans, (Black Bolt!) Askani/Rachael Summers, and Charlotte Jones w/big tech gun, and the Xmen blue team, and none of it affected him or even slowed him down. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers4.png

Magneto: Maybe. Maybe not. Hard to call.

Galactus: Oh yeah. He's not gonna be bothered much.

Spectre: Spectre notices BB, then squishes him. Definite yes.

Beta Ray Bill: Not sure. I know it will hurt him, but I'm not sure it will KO him.

Warrior Madness Thor: It's not stopping this guy.....

Iron Man (Exreemis): No way. IM's dead.

Darkseid: Even Post Crisis will survive and not be KOed.

xmeat
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Lmao. Here's hoping.

Onto the list.

Batman: With prep, yes. Otherwise, nope.

Martian Manhunter: Dubious, probably no.

Lobo: Even if it KOs him, he's still getting back up. It's freaking Lobo. stick out tongue

Wonder Woman: I'd say yes, but she'll be in severe pain.

Nova: Probably yes. I don't see his scream as being a cosmic class weapon.

Drax: Depends on the version.

Silver Surfer: Easily yes.

Rune King Thor: You're kidding, right? Hell yes he survives.

Onslaught: No idea about the scream messing up his psionic energy, so I'll say yes for now.

8th Day Juggernaut: Nothing's hurting this mother****er. Yes.

Firelord: Yes, but he might be KOed. He is 2nd weakest of the heralds. Then again, he's doing alot better in annihilation.

Mxy: Come on, even Galactus couldn't touch this guy.

Thanos: Odin didn't put him down, what makes you think BB can?

Superman: It will hurt him, but he'll survive.

Hulk: No. And I don't want any shit from Devilgoblin on this one.

Apocalypse: Yes. AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS HOM, IT'S NOT CANON. And just to prove it, here's a scan of Apocalypse taking X-Factor, the Inhumans, (Black Bolt!) Askani/Rachael Summers, and Charlotte Jones w/big tech gun, and the Xmen blue team, and none of it affected him or even slowed him down. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers4.png

Magneto: Maybe. Maybe not. Hard to call.

Galactus: Oh yeah. He's not gonna be bothered much.

Spectre: Spectre notices BB, then squishes him. Definite yes.

Beta Ray Bill: Not sure. I know it will hurt him, but I'm not sure it will KO him.

Warrior Madness Thor: It's not stopping this guy.....

Iron Man (Exreemis): No way. IM's dead.

Darkseid: Even Post Crisis will survive and not be KOed. you dont know shit about bb his scream will has ripped through reality it will probably hurt everyone except galactus, mxy, and juggernaut.
superman, wonder woman, and lobo and drax get knock the **** out.

geshien
well definately not daredevil...

FearOfBlood
Batman NO

Martian Manhunter NO

Lobo NO

Wonder Woman NO

Nova NO

Drax NO

Silver Surfer NO

Rune King Thor YES

Onslaught YES

8th Day Juggernaut YES

Firelord NO

Mxy YES

Thanos NO

Superman NO

Hulk YES (comics)

Apocalypse NO (comics)

Magneto NO

Galactus yes

Spectre yes

Beta Ray Bill NO

Warrior Madness Thor NO

Iron Man (Exreemis) NO

Darkseid NO

Endless Mike
Batman - No

Martian Manhunter - No

Lobo - Yes (immortal)

Wonder Woman - Maybe, if her forcefield worked against it

Nova - You mean Richard Ryder or Frankie Raye?

Drax - No

Silver Surfer - Barely

Rune King Thor - Yes

Onslaught - Not sure

8th Day Juggernaut - Yes

Firelord - No

Mxy - Yes

Thanos - Yes

Superman - No

Hulk - No

Apocalypse - No

Magneto - No

Galactus - Yes

Spectre - Yes

Beta Ray Bill - No

Warrior Madness Thor - No

Iron Man (Exreemis) - No

Darkseid - Depends which version

psycho gundam
Actually, I would tend to agree.
Early Lee/Kirby bios have said that his scream can shatter a mountain, as it did way back in the early FF days. I would think that to blow up a mountain, you would need something like 100-500 megatons. Hell, let's even go for the Big 1000 (1 gigaton).

Still, a gigaton should be nothing for a cosmic entity, especially ones which can have major effects on stars (which put out gigatons' worth of power by the second for billions of years).

This, of course, brings me to ask: where does Black Bolt get this degree of power from? I mean, a gigaton = 4.2 x 10^18 watts, about one million times the power the entire USA uses over one year.

Hey, comics...



black bolt sets into motion an electron chain reaction much like a nuclear explosive's plutonium/uranium electron chain reaction.
its a phenomenon that he can harness to increase his strengh,walk on like a bridge,duribility,flight,etc. when he releases it all without any focus,it cascades outward affecting all electrons in all surrounding matter that like all chain reactions, build as they spill outward. that is bb's power

Mider999
hmmm in wiki it says his full scream can level a planet is this a lie or the truth, i have heard that in the upcoming world war hulk hulk is unphased by this guys scream, and also apocalypse has been unphased in his none jobbing days, i think classic juggernaut could servive as well. Surfer can servive it perhaps but he wont be awake.

WorldWarHulk
Originally posted by Mider999
hmmm in wiki it says his full scream can level a planet is this a lie or the truth, i have heard that in the upcoming world war hulk hulk is unphased by this guys scream, and also apocalypse has been unphased in his none jobbing days, i think classic juggernaut could servive as well. Surfer can servive it perhaps but he wont be awake. Planet.

He was hurt, and knocked back quite a bit from a mere word/whisper.

Apocalypse was also powered up as well, and if the story really would have followed Black Bolt screaming, then the X-Men right beside him, would have been disintegrated.

Surfer is more durible than Hulk, and Apoc, so if they take it...

Mider999
Batman for now my answer is no

Martian Manhunter i dont really know what this guys durability feets are but im guessing there like supermans since when he was fernus supes said he was stronger thus he might be able to servive it i think i think he has a high chance

Lobo he'd get turned into goo but come back

Wonder Woman if she uses her bracelets sure

Nova if she's as surable as SS then sure but if she's not i dont really know for sure she's getting her but knocked out she's probably gonna have some injuries

Drax thought this guy was immortal wont he just come back

Silver Surfer i think this guy will servive for sure but he wont be awake to talk about it and he might have some injuries

Rune King Thor hmm would be intersting but im saying yes for sure he'd servive

Onslaught hmmm i dont know hulk did tear him apart, how strong is savage or mindless hulk

8th Day Juggernaut for sure he'd servive

Firelord same thing i said with nova

Mxy yeah he'd servive

Thanos lol he'd servive but have his butt knocked out and he might be missing some skin not any limbs but he might be a little messed up nothing that he cant fix but he'll be out i think

Superman heh he'd get his butt knocked out and probably a few broken bones

Hulk current one is said to take the scream and not flinch

Apocalypse he already has servived the scream and laughed about it

Magneto.........pfft maybe if he harnesed all the magnetic power of the entire world if not i dont see it happening

Galactus yeah this guy should but the way he's written he jobs so damn much, but since he is who he is and has done what he's done recently in annihilation i dont think he'd even notice black bolt he shouldnt considering who he is

Spectre nope he wont even notice

Beta Ray Bill same as surfer

Warrior Madness Thor same as surfer current surfer im guessing

Iron Man (Exreemis) dont know this guy

Darkseid unknown depending on his power level and if he's jobbing, he did get hurt by doomsday but a none jobbing darkseid........nope he has servived a solar system wide explosion so no he wouldnt be hurt

Evil_Ash
Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Apocalypse was also powered up as well

No. Apocalypse was planning to power himself up by draining the life-forces of the X-Factor, but it was interrupted by the Inhumans.

xmeat
how does diana bracelet deflect sound wtf

StarsNeverFall7
Actually in the previews of the new world war hulk, Black Bolt whispers "enough" right at hulk...does nothing... Hulk then proceeds to tell black bolt he sent him away and that he didn't come here to hear him whisper. Standing in front of BB Hulk says " I want to hear you scream"...so currently, hulk could most likely take it.

Superboy Prime
...Wow.

If Hulk can take it a host of characters in the list should be able to as well...specially Supes.

Mider999
you dont get it superboy prime, hulk has reached a pinical of power which he's not normally at, normally he'd get thrashed but at this moment he is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pissed that his durability is beyond imagination, normally he can jump 4 miles in a single leap but there are times when he is so angry he can jump 1000 or even into earths lower orbit, he once smashed a meteor bigger then earth with one punch and that meteor was TWICE as big as the earth, and to remind you he once was reduced to a skeleton and grew back, his power level is not a set thing it fluctuates amazingly depending on how angry he is, currently HE'S REALLY ANGRY heh.

Mider999
other times hes reached such a pinicile is when he tore onslaughts armor, and also picked up thors hammer.

janus77
Hulk's lifted Thor's hammer?

Martian_mind
Jonn can take it.


He was caught in a full on scream from Asmodel who stated his scream destroys matter itself and came out without a scratch.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic113.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic114.jpg

and he took an attack that could destroy a universal artifact and only suffered minor burns.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic108.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic109.jpg


Jonn takes it no prob.

StarsNeverFall7
Hulk lifts his hammer in the Ultimate cartoon and then proceeds to throw it at Thors head. Not canon and pis filled beyond belief.

ragesRemorse
i think seceral characters from that list could withstand his scream.

juggernaut 8th day first and foremost undoubtedly

i think onslaught could

galactus, and if galactus can do it surfer can

Thanos with infinity gauntlet

superman would find a way. he always does. besides, dont marvel powers weaken when transfered over to the dc universe? atleast this is what the dumbass crossovers tell us lol

the main man lobo could

and probably some more

ragesRemorse
Originally posted by janus77
Hulk's lifted Thor's hammer?

yeah, in the cartoon. any self respecting marvel comic reader knows that would never happen though. I doubt Hulk is above a Gods decree

guy222
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
yeah, in the cartoon. any self respecting marvel comic reader knows that would never happen though. I doubt Hulk is above a Gods decree

Maddie Pryor

Board Walker
Superman who recently shrugged off 50 super novas, I think would walk through BB's screams quite easily...

manorastroman
i'm sick of that scan being misrepresented. i'm ninety nine percent sure that he only survived the shock wave, and then outflew the actual supernova. which is a good speed/reaction feat, but he didn't take fifty bloody supernova's of red sun radiation.

capt it up
just batman.........becuase of the batkick..........

Board Walker
Originally posted by manorastroman
i'm sick of that scan being misrepresented. i'm ninety nine percent sure that he only survived the shock wave, and then outflew the actual supernova. which is a good speed/reaction feat, but he didn't take fifty bloody supernova's of red sun radiation.

Actually it was the super novas themselves, not the shockwave.

Shows you how much red sun radiation works on him now a days, also shows how resiliant Superman is to cosmic energy and force.

manorastroman
prove it. i bet you i've got more reasons why superman didn't actually take the blast than you have counter.

WorldWarHulk
Originally posted by capt it up
just batman.........becuase of the batkick.......... Now you're getting it!

Board Walker
Originally posted by manorastroman
prove it. i bet you i've got more reasons why superman didn't actually take the blast than you have counter.

What is their to prove? Its on panel.

manorastroman
look at the panel again. it shows superman being blown back with the caption "the electromagnetic shockwave rushes towards him at the speed of light". in the next panel, he is flying away from "an expanding bubble of radiation"...i'm almost certain that the expanding bubble of radiation is the actual supernova. 1-if it's the remains of the entropy bomb, that implies the supernova was only a shockwave. 2-if it's the remains of the entropy bomb, that implies that entropy bomb's have radiation.

he outflew the actual explosion after taking the shockwave. he didn't take fifty supernovas of red sun radiation.

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