Tonights main event A unlimited round boxing Match Captain America vs The Punisher

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golem370
Two American Badass face bare knuckles in the boxing ring.No wins until the other has no more fight in him.

First Fighter Out of New York City standing in the left corner with the Red White & Blue trunks Standing 6foot2 Weighting 240 pounds Steve Rogers.

vs

Second Fighter Out of Also from New York standing in the right corner with the black trunks with a white skull on them standing 6foot1 weighting somewhere between 200 and 260 pounds Frank Castle.

galan7777777
cap beats the crap out of punisher, then bites his ear off...

Soleran
those guys are really heavy for boxers, lol.

Steve is gonna get the win his conditioning will put him over the top i think.

golem370
But Punisher has built his tolerance to pain and he is a great fighter.

Lets make this a two scenarios fight One scenarios is Steve Rogers before Solider Serum and then the Second scenarios with Solider Serum and how long would the fight last both times how many rounds?

galan7777777
Originally posted by golem370
But Punisher has bulit his tolerance to pain and he is a great fighter.

Lets make this a two senario fight One senario is Steve Rogers before Soilder Serum and then the Second Senario with Soilder Serum and how long would the fight last both times how many rounds? w/o the serum steve was a little pipsqueek and would get owned, but with the serum he is faster, stronger, and more durable then punisher, cap wins that scenerio easily

Metalmanx
Out of all the categories, I'd DEFINITELY give Punisher the advantage in the durability/pain tolerance department. He's such a damage-sponge.

Cap will have a VERY hard time putting Punisher down.

Soleran
Originally posted by golem370
But Punisher has built his tolerance to pain and he is a great fighter.

Lets make this a two scenarios fight One scenarios is Steve Rogers before Solider Serum and then the Second scenarios with Solider Serum and how long would the fight last both times how many rounds?

Well Punisher can take a great deal of punishment but Steve isn't going to fatigue. The later rounds are going to be brutal on Punisher.

Captain wins in the 9th round ko.

invisiblewoman
yeah, with serum cap wins! w/o serum punisher wins!

golem370
Yeah but wasn't Cap a great Soldier even before he got the juice?

Soleran
nope

galan7777777
Originally posted by golem370
Yeah but wasn't Cap a great Soldier even before he got the juice? he was a great soldier in terms of "love for his country" but he wasnt fast, strong, or durable enough w/o the serum to give punisher any kind of worry

capt it up
lets see. capt has every advantage.
capt a better fighter
stronger
more stamina
more agile
better reflexes
how is this even up for debate capt wins. there no doubts about it

capt it up
Originally posted by galan7777777
a great soldier in terms of "love for his counrty" but he wasnt fast, strong, or durable enough w/o the serum to give punisher any kind of worry
he couldent even lift a rifle

Soleran
this one is just about boxing though!

Punisher is going down though

golem370
Well then why was he choosen for the Serum

galan7777777
Originally posted by golem370
Well then why was he choosen for the Serum he was nothing but a lab rat in that experiment

Zahit
Down goes Punisher!
Down goes Punisher!!!!

darthgoober
Originally posted by golem370
Well then why was he choosen for the Serum
How better to test the effects than to use on someone who's a runt? They planned on making more(out of better soldiers), but the creater was killed, I believe.

galan7777777
Originally posted by darthgoober
How better to test the effects than to use on someone who's a runt? They planned on making more(out of better soldiers), but the creater was killed, I believe. he was killed, thats why no one can replicate it anymore

boriquaking55
Cap wins 8/10

A lot of the Punisher's best durability feats are just aweful writing anyways.

jrodslam
If this is a straight up boxing match, id have to give Punisher the edge. Just because he could probably take more punishment than Cap. True Cap has a stamina and strength edge over Castle, but Frank is a dirty fighter, so hed aim for areas like the adams apple and throw a couple of low blows in there. Frank is willing to do the things to win, plus hes one tough sob. I give Punisher the slight edge here. 6/10.

thedude1948
Is this a joke? Cap has the best boxing out of anyone on Marvel Earth. With the SSS Cap beats him 1000/10.

galan7777777
Originally posted by thedude1948
Is this a joke? Cap has the best boxing out of anyone on Marvel Earth. With the SSS Cap beats him 1000/10. agreed, the punisher is no sissy, but cap would slaughter him captainamerica2

Metalmanx
Originally posted by capt it up
lets see. capt has every advantage.
capt a better fighter
stronger
more stamina
more agile
better reflexes
how is this even up for debate capt wins. there no doubts about it

Except for durability. Exactly as I said earlier. No ones arguing that Punisher wins. Just that it will take Cap a long time to finally put him down.

Don't get your panties in a twist. no expression

thedude1948
How is Punishers durability higher than Caps feat-wise. Because Cap has some crazy durability feats also.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by thedude1948
How is Punishers durability higher than Caps, feat-wise, because Cap has some crazy durability feats also.

Punisher is a sponge for damage. The amount of physical abuse he takes constantly is almost unbelievable.

thedude1948
Same can be said about Cap.

Fanboy
Captain America whoops his ass unless you have evidence of Punisher having a chance of beating Captain America with his hands then Captain America beats him fast.

badabing
Originally posted by golem370
Two American Badass face bare knuckles in the boxing ring.No wins until the other has no more fight in him.

First Fighter Out of New York City standing in the left corner with the Red White & Blue trunks Standing 6foot2 Weighting 240 pounds Steve Rogers.

vs

Second Fighter Out of Also from New York standing in the right corner with the black trunks with a white skull on them standing 6foot1 weighting somewhere between 200 and 260 pounds Frank Castle.
Steve has better skill, endurance and strength.

cherry cola
cap is suppose to be a master at boxing so I think he gives it to the punisher just takes a while.

Metalmanx
I never said Punisher wins. Just that he will hold his own and take a long time to go down. Cap wins 8/10.

complexbrother
Cap wins in eleventh round KO, but collapses soon afterwards due to internal damage.

Tassadar
Cap wins 8/10, but the fight lasts to at least the 8th round.

Tassadar
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Cap wins 8/10

A lot of the Punisher's best durability feats are just aweful writing anyways.

The same could be said of Cap's, DD's, and Batman's. But its consistent, through all of each characters comics, so its not bad wrighting.

The Fake Macoy
Cap will win this almost for sure, but as previously posted it may take a while for the Frank to finally hit the ground.

jrodslam
Originally posted by thedude1948
Is this a joke? Cap has the best boxing out of anyone on Marvel Earth. With the SSS Cap beats him 1000/10.

Who says Cap has the best boxing skills out of anyone on ME? There are a few people who can match Cap's boxing skills. We're talking boxing here, not all around combat. And before the SSS, Cap wasnt s**t.

thedude1948
Originally posted by jrodslam
Who says Cap has the best boxing skills out of anyone on ME? There are a few people who can match Cap's boxing skills. We're talking boxing here, not all around combat. And before the SSS, Cap wasnt s**t.

His fighting style is based off of boxing, who on ME can match him in boxing skill?

Soleran
Punisher is going to have a tough time overcoming the fact Captain doesn't fatigue lik ehe will.

jrodslam
Originally posted by thedude1948
His fighting style is based off of boxing, who on ME can match him in boxing skill?

Is Captain Americas style based off boxing only? Possibly, but he does use a mixture of boxing and martial arts, so its hard to say.

Nick Fury, Daredevil, Red Skull and Punsher imo are all who can match Cap in boxing skill . And im sure there are others woh are not far from him as well. Its everything else that begins to set Cap apart from other combatants.

capt it up
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Except for durability. Exactly as I said earlier. No ones arguing that Punisher wins. Just that it will take Cap a long time to finally put him down.

Don't get your panties in a twist. no expression
actaully even in durability punisher is less then capt. capt muscles are more dense and so is his bones meaning he has greater durability. all punisher has is high pain tolerences.

what the hell are you talking about panties for? I stated the facts that was all I did not get mad, but of course you gotta be dumb and put some lame ass line after you quote me.

jrodslam
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully even in durability punisher is less then capt. capt muscles are more dense and so is his bones meaning he has greater durability. all punisher has is high pain tolerences.

I dont think Cap has denser bones. True hes more muscular than Frank, but hed probably feel a punch just as anyone else would, although hed withstand the pain better than most as well. Its hard to say whos more durable. Cap does wear mail on his uper body compared to Franks body protector which is highly durable itself.

capt it up
Originally posted by jrodslam
I dont think Cap has denser bones. True hes more muscular than Frank, but hed probably feel a punch just as anyone else would, although hed withstand the pain better than most as well. Its hard to say whos more durable. Cap does wear mail on his uper body compared to Franks body protector which is highly durable itself.
im pritty sure the serum made every part of capt to be at humans best. which would me his body is denser then a normal humans in ever area

jrodslam
Originally posted by capt it up
im pritty sure the serum made every part of capt to be at humans best. which would me his body is denser then a normal humans in ever area

Yes, the SSS boosted Caps body to perfection. His muscle tissue was enhanced so thus he got more of it. I dont think it would be any harder than say a Daredevil, Iron Fist, Punisher or anyone else who works out to a high degree.

capt it up
Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes, the SSS boosted Caps body to perfection. His muscle tissue was enhanced so thus he got more of it. I dont think it would be any harder than say a Daredevil, Iron Fist, Punisher or anyone else who works out to a high degree.
none of them can match capts strength so I guessing his body and muscles are a good deal denser

jrodslam
Originally posted by capt it up
none of them can match capts strength so I guessing his body and muscles are a good deal denser

It may be true that they arent as strong as him, but the size of Caps muscles have nothing to do with his strength. Hes just stronger. Hes not stronger cause his muscles are bigger. And hes not that much stronger than them either. Nor is he much bigger.

capt it up
Originally posted by jrodslam
It may be true that they arent as strong as him, but the size of Caps muscles have nothing to do with his strength. Hes just stronger. Hes not stronger cause his muscles are bigger. And hes not that much stronger than them either. Nor is he much bigger.
im talken density here not size. his muscle mass is denser. he a good deal stronger.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by capt it up
none of them can match capts strength so I guessing his body and muscles are a good deal denser

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Cap is in no way leagues above DD in strength. If Cap is superhumanly strong, then so is DD.

But I digress. Cap wins this fight 8/10.

jrodslam
Originally posted by capt it up
im talken density here not size. his muscle mass is denser. he a good deal stronger.

And what im saying is that your strength has nothing to do with your muscle size, density or mass. And Cap may be able to bench a couple hundred lbs more than the others. Alot by peak human standards, but not much when it comes to actual battle and strength rankings.

jrodslam
Links dont work Metal.

Metalmanx
Originally posted by jrodslam
Links dont work Metal.

Damn. Well, I got them from your DD Respect thread. So I'm sure you know that DD has some sort of superhuman strength, too.

jrodslam
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Damn. Well, I got them from your DD Respect thread. So I'm sure you know that DD has some sort of superhuman strength, too.

Sweet big grin. Yea DD's strength is underrated. I dont know why he has a rating of 2 in the handbooks when hes clearly able to lift twice his own body weight. Dam handbook writers i tell ya.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Out of all the categories, I'd DEFINITELY give Punisher the advantage in the durability/pain tolerance department. He's such a damage-sponge.

Cap will have a VERY hard time putting Punisher down.

So let me get this straight......you're telling me that the Punisher is going to win this?

Ok I saw what you wrote afterwards.

Daredevil1
Although Punisher can take punishment, Cap has better feats imo.

Here are just some of the many.

Monster slam from the Destroyer.
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Beat down from Namor after crashing from a highfalling airplane into the ocean from 1000's of feat.
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Notice how Namor here is impressed that Cap recovered so quickly.
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Taking a attack from Spiderman and then pummelled by Ironman.
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Cap of course has many..many more. I've seen some feats of him taking tons of explosions of falls from heights that would kill instantly regular folks. To even a crazy crash from a plane as Cap came out of it without any brocken bones.

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